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		<title>By: theotherguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>theotherguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 00:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree there are many environmental problems on this planet.  Many things we are doing that is causing significant damage to the environment.  Pumping small amounts of CO2 (relative to the amounts already present) into the atmosphere isn&#039;t one of them. 
 
Putting nasty chemicals into the air, that later come back down onto our heads and homes is a bad idea in general.  Eroding away our environment makes the planet less capable of supporting us as a species.  Destroying your own home is a bad idea no matter how you frame it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree there are many environmental problems on this planet.  Many things we are doing that is causing significant damage to the environment.  Pumping small amounts of CO2 (relative to the amounts already present) into the atmosphere isn&#039;t one of them.</p>
<p>Putting nasty chemicals into the air, that later come back down onto our heads and homes is a bad idea in general.  Eroding away our environment makes the planet less capable of supporting us as a species.  Destroying your own home is a bad idea no matter how you frame it. </p>
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		<title>By: gerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>gerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al Gore is the global warming poster boy. Why wouldn&#039;t you expect his name to come up? 
 
 Its not that I don&#039;t like him, I don&#039;t believe the false alarmist science he is spreading.  It will hurt any real inquiry on climate change for many years to come, as more and more become unconvinced of the current &#039;conscensus&#039;. 
 
It will make many future skeptics of &#039;any&#039; scientific reviews in other fields that are credible and well researched. 
 
 His actions are probobly doing more to set back science than any other scam in recent time. Science is losing credibility over this issue and the world is watching. 
 
And yes these &#039;e-mails, documents&#039; etc have seriously hurt the claims of scientific proof when they talk about doctoring the truth so it fits the concept. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al Gore is the global warming poster boy. Why wouldn&#039;t you expect his name to come up?</p>
<p> Its not that I don&#039;t like him, I don&#039;t believe the false alarmist science he is spreading.  It will hurt any real inquiry on climate change for many years to come, as more and more become unconvinced of the current &#039;conscensus&#039;.</p>
<p>It will make many future skeptics of &#039;any&#039; scientific reviews in other fields that are credible and well researched.</p>
<p> His actions are probobly doing more to set back science than any other scam in recent time. Science is losing credibility over this issue and the world is watching.</p>
<p>And yes these &#039;e-mails, documents&#039; etc have seriously hurt the claims of scientific proof when they talk about doctoring the truth so it fits the concept. </p>
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		<title>By: GI Korea</title>
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		<dc:creator>GI Korea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kushibo this is why I am so against the global warming eco-faith because it obscures real environmental issues.  Take for example the Yellow Dust issue in China.  
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://rokdrop.com/2007/05/17/yellow-dust-linked/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://rokdrop.com/2007/05/17/yellow-dust-linked/&lt;/a&gt;  
 
There are few environmental problems that rank up there with Yellow Dust and it continues to get worse and worse every year and this is something that has actually be proven to change the weather and have negative health effects.   
 
Yet how many people even know of this issue and how much money and effort is being allocated to deal with it compared to global warming?  The global warming eco-faith and their missionaries have totally obscured and even stigmatized legitimate environmental issues.   
 
I am a member of  the Sierra Club because I believe in conservation efforts that the group promotes, but I am seriously considering canceling my membership because more and more of the organization&#039;s efforts is going towards the global warming eco-faith instead of conservation. I get my bi-monthly newsletter and more and more of its causes are to get people to attend global warming protests instead of conservation efforts. It&#039;s sad.   
 
This is the true harm the eco-faith and their false prophets like Al Gore have caused. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kushibo this is why I am so against the global warming eco-faith because it obscures real environmental issues.  Take for example the Yellow Dust issue in China. </p>
<p>  <a href="http://rokdrop.com/2007/05/17/yellow-dust-linked/" rel="nofollow">http://rokdrop.com/2007/05/17/yellow-dust-linked/</a>  </p>
<p>There are few environmental problems that rank up there with Yellow Dust and it continues to get worse and worse every year and this is something that has actually be proven to change the weather and have negative health effects.  </p>
<p>Yet how many people even know of this issue and how much money and effort is being allocated to deal with it compared to global warming?  The global warming eco-faith and their missionaries have totally obscured and even stigmatized legitimate environmental issues.  </p>
<p>I am a member of  the Sierra Club because I believe in conservation efforts that the group promotes, but I am seriously considering canceling my membership because more and more of the organization&#039;s efforts is going towards the global warming eco-faith instead of conservation. I get my bi-monthly newsletter and more and more of its causes are to get people to attend global warming protests instead of conservation efforts. It&#039;s sad.  </p>
<p>This is the true harm the eco-faith and their false prophets like Al Gore have caused. </p>
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		<title>By: Retired GI</title>
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		<dc:creator>Retired GI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your smarter than that --- I hope. 
 
Big Al is makin the bucks on this.  He made a movie and won a NPP for it ---- remember? 
 
Like him?  Don&#039;t even know him.  Now if he would point out some good investments for me, I would like him even MORE! 
 
How bout those Nuke power plants that will be comin online to relieve our dependance on oil! :grin:  
 
Who was protesting those back in the past? :lol:   Somebody tell me---- </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your smarter than that &#8212; I hope.</p>
<p>Big Al is makin the bucks on this.  He made a movie and won a NPP for it &#8212;- remember?</p>
<p>Like him?  Don&#039;t even know him.  Now if he would point out some good investments for me, I would like him even MORE!</p>
<p>How bout those Nuke power plants that will be comin online to relieve our dependance on oil! <img src='http://rokdrop.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':grin:' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Who was protesting those back in the past? <img src='http://rokdrop.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' />    Somebody tell me&#8212;- </p>
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		<title>By: Retired GI</title>
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		<dc:creator>Retired GI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll give you props for being clever. ;-)  
So what&#039;s the Communist News Network (CNN) talkin about these days? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ll give you props for being clever. <img src='http://rokdrop.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>So what&#039;s the Communist News Network (CNN) talkin about these days? </p>
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		<title>By: Retired GI</title>
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		<dc:creator>Retired GI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teadrinker 
I&#039;m sure the Left Behind series DOES &quot;effect&quot; the view of many Americans. 
Just as many Americans believe in Vampires. 
 
I never said American (general population) was all that bright. 
 
But Fox &quot;target demographic)&quot; is hardly a believer in either. 
 
The left likes to demonize christian beliefs.  I don&#039;t really understand that desire myself, since Islam can do no wrong. 
 
But there are &quot;nuts&quot; on both &quot;all&quot; sides. 
 
I never read that series, nor do I have a desire too.  I also have no desire to watch the &quot;new&quot; crop of vampire movies.  But I do like the old ones and sometimes have to fight the desire to buy a cape. :lol: </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teadrinker</p>
<p>I&#039;m sure the Left Behind series DOES &quot;effect&quot; the view of many Americans.</p>
<p>Just as many Americans believe in Vampires.</p>
<p>I never said American (general population) was all that bright.</p>
<p>But Fox &quot;target demographic)&quot; is hardly a believer in either.</p>
<p>The left likes to demonize christian beliefs.  I don&#039;t really understand that desire myself, since Islam can do no wrong.</p>
<p>But there are &quot;nuts&quot; on both &quot;all&quot; sides.</p>
<p>I never read that series, nor do I have a desire too.  I also have no desire to watch the &quot;new&quot; crop of vampire movies.  But I do like the old ones and sometimes have to fight the desire to buy a cape. <img src='http://rokdrop.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
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		<title>By: GI Korea</title>
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		<dc:creator>GI Korea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 07:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unlike the CRU or RealClimate I won&#039;t delete your comment or try to silence you. ;-) 
 
The article you linked to does nothing to diffuse ClimateGate.  It just more media damage control. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unlike the CRU or RealClimate I won&#039;t delete your comment or try to silence you. <img src='http://rokdrop.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>The article you linked to does nothing to diffuse ClimateGate.  It just more media damage control. </p>
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		<title>By: ChickenHead</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChickenHead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teadrinker, 
 
Al Gore, for financial gain and an attempt to stay relevant, he has positioned himself as the Face of Man-made Global Warming. 
 
That&#039;s why he comes up. 
 
When I watched An Inconvenient Truth, after hearing all the hype, I expected to walk away understanding the true urgency of Man-made Global Warming.  I really did.  I didn&#039;t recognize it as a left/right/control/freedom/tax/power consolidation issue. 
 
What I got instead was the same feeling a little kid gets when he opens his Christmas present expecting something really cool and finds a big peanut-filled turd sprinkled with glitter with mommy and daddy laughing uncontrollably in the background. 
 
To all but the zealots with preconceived notions based on idealism, it felt like an infomercial selling an inferior product... high on emotion, low on fact.  With a growing sense of unbelief, I quickly recognized a few suspect statements... and, later, statements I knew to be false. 
 
Further, half of the movie was something about how man is destroying the planet and needed to lower his lifestyle and the other half was an Al Gore promotional video.  Insulting. 
 
He finally lost me when he continued to lecture about how I needed to lower my lifestyle so as not to destroy the planet... FROM THE DRIVER&#039;S SEAT OF AN SUV! 
 
It takes a certain type of communist-style dumb to see this and nod one&#039;s head in worshipful agreement. 
 
I can recognize a limousine liberal when I see one... and I can recognize when whatever they are pushing (usually restrictions) don&#039;t apply to them... mostly because the real goal of the agenda has nothing to do with its stated goal. 
 
The entire Man-made Global Warming Industry is constructed in the same way.   
 
Instead of video conferences, world leaders jet off to exotic locations to hold meetings on how the little people need to pay more taxes and reduce their lifestyle.  Talentless entertainers lecture everyone on carbon reduction from the decks of ships and the backs of limos.  Politicians raise taxes and tighten regulations on daily living while supporting two open-ended carbon-belching wars and needless carbon-intensive projects in their districts.  Companies charge extra when they write &quot;green&quot; over all three layers of plastic packaging on the disposable crap they are producing in a smoke-vomiting factory in China. &quot;Scientists&quot; try to out-alarm each other in hopes of getting more funding to find new ways to cook the numbers to support policies and agendas dreamed up by the politicians controlling the funding. 
 
And Al Gore is the face of this... its largest and most vocal proponent... and a leader by example. 
 
And that is why he comes up. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teadrinker,</p>
<p>Al Gore, for financial gain and an attempt to stay relevant, he has positioned himself as the Face of Man-made Global Warming.</p>
<p>That&#039;s why he comes up.</p>
<p>When I watched An Inconvenient Truth, after hearing all the hype, I expected to walk away understanding the true urgency of Man-made Global Warming.  I really did.  I didn&#039;t recognize it as a left/right/control/freedom/tax/power consolidation issue.</p>
<p>What I got instead was the same feeling a little kid gets when he opens his Christmas present expecting something really cool and finds a big peanut-filled turd sprinkled with glitter with mommy and daddy laughing uncontrollably in the background.</p>
<p>To all but the zealots with preconceived notions based on idealism, it felt like an infomercial selling an inferior product&#8230; high on emotion, low on fact.  With a growing sense of unbelief, I quickly recognized a few suspect statements&#8230; and, later, statements I knew to be false.</p>
<p>Further, half of the movie was something about how man is destroying the planet and needed to lower his lifestyle and the other half was an Al Gore promotional video.  Insulting.</p>
<p>He finally lost me when he continued to lecture about how I needed to lower my lifestyle so as not to destroy the planet&#8230; FROM THE DRIVER&#039;S SEAT OF AN SUV!</p>
<p>It takes a certain type of communist-style dumb to see this and nod one&#039;s head in worshipful agreement.</p>
<p>I can recognize a limousine liberal when I see one&#8230; and I can recognize when whatever they are pushing (usually restrictions) don&#039;t apply to them&#8230; mostly because the real goal of the agenda has nothing to do with its stated goal.</p>
<p>The entire Man-made Global Warming Industry is constructed in the same way.  </p>
<p>Instead of video conferences, world leaders jet off to exotic locations to hold meetings on how the little people need to pay more taxes and reduce their lifestyle.  Talentless entertainers lecture everyone on carbon reduction from the decks of ships and the backs of limos.  Politicians raise taxes and tighten regulations on daily living while supporting two open-ended carbon-belching wars and needless carbon-intensive projects in their districts.  Companies charge extra when they write &quot;green&quot; over all three layers of plastic packaging on the disposable crap they are producing in a smoke-vomiting factory in China. &quot;Scientists&quot; try to out-alarm each other in hopes of getting more funding to find new ways to cook the numbers to support policies and agendas dreamed up by the politicians controlling the funding.</p>
<p>And Al Gore is the face of this&#8230; its largest and most vocal proponent&#8230; and a leader by example.</p>
<p>And that is why he comes up. </p>
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		<title>By: Teadrinker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teadrinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does Al Gore always come up around here when Global Warming is discussed?  Because nobody really likes him, so by associating him to Global Warming you somehow manage to discredit it? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does Al Gore always come up around here when Global Warming is discussed?  Because nobody really likes him, so by associating him to Global Warming you somehow manage to discredit it? </p>
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		<title>By: Teadrinker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teadrinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Global Dimming, aka. the Fox News Effect.  :grin: </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Global Dimming, aka. the Fox News Effect.  <img src='http://rokdrop.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':grin:' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
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