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		<title>By: gerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>gerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen. </description>
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		<title>By: ChickenHead</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChickenHead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 01:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems the comment section here frequently cuts through the bullshyt and grasps the fundamental truth of most situations long before the rest of the world even understands something is amiss.  
 
As a bonus, there are just enough whining idealists, indignant losers and agenda-driven apologists hell-bent on defending the indefensible here to keep things interesting.  You know who you are. 
 
So... 
 
Once again, ROK Drop out-analyzed the &quot;professional&quot; media. 
 
&quot;&#8220;The investigation revealed evidence, from both other Soldiers and from Private Hutchinson herself, that she didn&#8217;t intend to deploy to Afghanistan with her unit and deliberately sought ways out of the deployment,&#8221; the release said. 
 
Hutchinson admitted to lying about the circumstances, officials said. The decision to administratively separate her from the service, rather than seek a court-martial, eliminates the possibility of jail time for the incident. &quot; 
 
The situation was pretty clear from the beginning... and it&#039;s nice to get confirmation.   
 
The only loose end is the incredibly large and deliberate information vacuum concerning her baby-daddy...  
 
...if it was even remotely possible to spin her as anything less than the lazy ghetto slut she appears to be, the media would be banging pots and pans and yelling, &quot;Deadbeat Dad!&quot; over this...  
 
...so, their silence speaks rather loudly, after all. 
 
I sure would like to know the truth, though... THAT story is probably lots more interesting than just another lying malingerer being loudly adopted and quietly dropped by left-wing do-gooders desperate to shoehorn the clear form of reality into their misshapen agendas. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems the comment section here frequently cuts through the bullshyt and grasps the fundamental truth of most situations long before the rest of the world even understands something is amiss. </p>
<p>As a bonus, there are just enough whining idealists, indignant losers and agenda-driven apologists hell-bent on defending the indefensible here to keep things interesting.  You know who you are.</p>
<p>So&#8230;</p>
<p>Once again, ROK Drop out-analyzed the &quot;professional&quot; media.</p>
<p>&quot;&ldquo;The investigation revealed evidence, from both other Soldiers and from Private Hutchinson herself, that she didn&rsquo;t intend to deploy to Afghanistan with her unit and deliberately sought ways out of the deployment,&rdquo; the release said.</p>
<p>Hutchinson admitted to lying about the circumstances, officials said. The decision to administratively separate her from the service, rather than seek a court-martial, eliminates the possibility of jail time for the incident. &quot;</p>
<p>The situation was pretty clear from the beginning&#8230; and it&#039;s nice to get confirmation.  </p>
<p>The only loose end is the incredibly large and deliberate information vacuum concerning her baby-daddy&#8230; </p>
<p>&#8230;if it was even remotely possible to spin her as anything less than the lazy ghetto slut she appears to be, the media would be banging pots and pans and yelling, &quot;Deadbeat Dad!&quot; over this&#8230; </p>
<p>&#8230;so, their silence speaks rather loudly, after all.</p>
<p>I sure would like to know the truth, though&#8230; THAT story is probably lots more interesting than just another lying malingerer being loudly adopted and quietly dropped by left-wing do-gooders desperate to shoehorn the clear form of reality into their misshapen agendas.</p>
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		<title>By: 92Golf</title>
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		<dc:creator>92Golf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see there is alot of talk about this chick, but the truth of the matter is that she didnt want to deploy with us. When we left that day she knew what was going on and did not want to go. The mother who took is the one with the family care plan refused to take care of her own grandchild. What the fuck is that! She has her very own daycare and can not take care of her grandchild. We left all our kids to come here because its our duty as soldiers. People always trying to side with bullshit. The Army gave her that family care plan before any of this started about a year ago and she played games like its a joke. I should post this shit everywhere, &quot;&lt;del datetime=&quot;2009-12-12T06:40:36+00:00&quot;&gt;fucking bullshit &lt;/del&gt;soldier that can not man up and take the sand out her &lt;del datetime=&quot;2009-12-12T06:40:36+00:00&quot;&gt;clit&lt;/del&gt; and drive on Hooah!!! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see there is alot of talk about this chick, but the truth of the matter is that she didnt want to deploy with us. When we left that day she knew what was going on and did not want to go. The mother who took is the one with the family care plan refused to take care of her own grandchild. What the fuck is that! She has her very own daycare and can not take care of her grandchild. We left all our kids to come here because its our duty as soldiers. People always trying to side with bullshit. The Army gave her that family care plan before any of this started about a year ago and she played games like its a joke. I should post this shit everywhere, &quot;&lt;del datetime=&quot;2009-12-12T06:40:36+00:00&quot;&gt;fucking bullshit &lt;/del&gt;soldier that can not man up and take the sand out her &lt;del datetime=&quot;2009-12-12T06:40:36+00:00&quot;&gt;clit&lt;/del&gt; and drive on Hooah!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Lemmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lemmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 01:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, I hope you are in your mid-twenties.  Here is why:  Eventually in your life, you begin to see patterns.  Darwinist would argue that this is what allows animals to extend their lives because they can &quot;learn from these patterns&quot;.  I am not a plant, so I hope to classified as part of the animal kingdom.  As such, I have the ability to learn eg. Boiling water is not a pleasant feeling on the skin, if I shoot a gun and the bullet hits someone in the center of their head, they will die.  Learning these small lessons of life have aided in my survival.  Another important aspect of my success and survival in life has two general rules: learning from others mistakes and FOLLOWING RULES OF SOCIETY. 
 
In case you didn&#039;t know: a stove burner will burn you, If you jump in front of a train, you will be killed.  Though I&#039;ve never experienced either, I know the results.  I admit some elder people are freaks of nature as they are simply unintelligent, people do slip through.  I understand that, but I would do a disservice to society if I didn&#039;t point them out to others. 
 
Banana&#039;s </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, I hope you are in your mid-twenties.  Here is why:  Eventually in your life, you begin to see patterns.  Darwinist would argue that this is what allows animals to extend their lives because they can &quot;learn from these patterns&quot;.  I am not a plant, so I hope to classified as part of the animal kingdom.  As such, I have the ability to learn eg. Boiling water is not a pleasant feeling on the skin, if I shoot a gun and the bullet hits someone in the center of their head, they will die.  Learning these small lessons of life have aided in my survival.  Another important aspect of my success and survival in life has two general rules: learning from others mistakes and FOLLOWING RULES OF SOCIETY.</p>
<p>In case you didn&#039;t know: a stove burner will burn you, If you jump in front of a train, you will be killed.  Though I&#039;ve never experienced either, I know the results.  I admit some elder people are freaks of nature as they are simply unintelligent, people do slip through.  I understand that, but I would do a disservice to society if I didn&#039;t point them out to others.</p>
<p>Banana&#039;s</p>
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		<title>By: gerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>gerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reply option is at the original comment. Just click on it and yours will be added to the others.  
 
By the way you also need to look up the meaning of &quot;ad hominen&quot;, not to mention repeating what &quot;THEOTHERGUY&quot; said almost verbatem without even reading the other posts. 
 
Did &quot;THEOTHERGUY&quot; call you and say he needed your support in his debate? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reply option is at the original comment. Just click on it and yours will be added to the others. </p>
<p>By the way you also need to look up the meaning of &quot;ad hominen&quot;, not to mention repeating what &quot;THEOTHERGUY&quot; said almost verbatem without even reading the other posts.</p>
<p>Did &quot;THEOTHERGUY&quot; call you and say he needed your support in his debate?</p>
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		<title>By: gerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>gerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL, you keep using the phrase &quot;ad hominem&quot;, yet I don&#039;t think you understand its meaning. You really need to look it up. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, you keep using the phrase &quot;ad hominem&quot;, yet I don&#039;t think you understand its meaning. You really need to look it up.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 21:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If i could find the way to reply to posts with blue backgrounds (like my prior post appears on my screen)  or to edit my post,  i would do that.    
 
I wanted to edit my last post to delete everything under &quot;cheers&quot; but dont know why those commands aren&#039;t available.   Is it a firefox browser issue? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If i could find the way to reply to posts with blue backgrounds (like my prior post appears on my screen)  or to edit my post,  i would do that.   </p>
<p>I wanted to edit my last post to delete everything under &quot;cheers&quot; but dont know why those commands aren&#039;t available.   Is it a firefox browser issue?</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 21:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dont know why, but there is no &quot;reply&quot; option for the post(s) i want to reply to, so had to click on the nearest one available (a post by someone who admitted to a closed mind)  
 
Theotherguy: 
&quot;As for my argument, what part can&#8217;t you understand? &quot; 
 
The pertinent question is whether they Want to understand.   
 
You&#039;re absolutely right about the tendency to damn the facts and jump to conclusions.  I think people have to believe they&#039;re infallible to do that.   Ad hominem substitutes for facts because thats the logic that works best for them on sites that regularly disparge those who have differing opinions than theirs. 
 
Cheers 
 
The part where the command revoked her extension, or the part where they said they would put her kid in CPS. How about the part where she said she wasn&#8217;t trying to get out of deployment and just needed time to find a new caregiver? Her only negative is that she did a boneheaded thing (not showing up for deployment). Her reasoning is that she was afraid they would put her kid in CPS, because well they SAID they would. 
 
So far many logical fallacies have been used in place blame / fault on the soldier in question, including but not limited to Ad Hominem, Burden of Proof, Appeal to Authority, Appeal to Ridicule, False Dilemma, Hasty Generalization, Guilt by Association, Straw Man, Genetic Fallacy, Post Hoc, Questionable Cause and Composition. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dont know why, but there is no &quot;reply&quot; option for the post(s) i want to reply to, so had to click on the nearest one available (a post by someone who admitted to a closed mind) </p>
<p>Theotherguy:</p>
<p>&quot;As for my argument, what part can&rsquo;t you understand? &quot;</p>
<p>The pertinent question is whether they Want to understand.  </p>
<p>You&#039;re absolutely right about the tendency to damn the facts and jump to conclusions.  I think people have to believe they&#039;re infallible to do that.   Ad hominem substitutes for facts because thats the logic that works best for them on sites that regularly disparge those who have differing opinions than theirs.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>The part where the command revoked her extension, or the part where they said they would put her kid in CPS. How about the part where she said she wasn&rsquo;t trying to get out of deployment and just needed time to find a new caregiver? Her only negative is that she did a boneheaded thing (not showing up for deployment). Her reasoning is that she was afraid they would put her kid in CPS, because well they SAID they would.</p>
<p>So far many logical fallacies have been used in place blame / fault on the soldier in question, including but not limited to Ad Hominem, Burden of Proof, Appeal to Authority, Appeal to Ridicule, False Dilemma, Hasty Generalization, Guilt by Association, Straw Man, Genetic Fallacy, Post Hoc, Questionable Cause and Composition.</p>
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		<title>By: theotherguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>theotherguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 19:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The effects of institutionalization are a well documented and studied thing.  The effects show up in anyone who does the exact same things by rote day in and day out for extended periods of time. 
 
Now tell me that the US Military doesn&#039;t fit that.  Also I didn&#039;t say it happened to everyone, its entirely plausible for someone to mentally challenge themselves during their off time.  Special Forces are an interesting example because their missions involved constantly rethinking how they do things.  I&#039;ve yet to meet a SF guy who had their brain locked. 
 
As for my argument, what part can&#039;t you understand?  The part where the command revoked her extension, or the part where they said they would put her kid in CPS.  How about the part where she said she wasn&#039;t trying to get out of deployment and just needed time to find a new caregiver?  Her only negative is that she did a boneheaded thing (not showing up for deployment).  Her reasoning is that she was afraid they would put her kid in CPS, because well they SAID they would. 
 
So far many logical fallacies have been used in place blame / fault on the soldier in question, including but not limited to Ad Hominem, Burden of Proof, Appeal to Authority, Appeal to Ridicule, False Dilemma, Hasty Generalization, Guilt by Association, Straw Man, Genetic Fallacy, Post Hoc, Questionable Cause and Composition. 
 
Of course I don&#039;t expect completely logical debate material from a web forum, but at least people can attempt to not to look the complete fool. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The effects of institutionalization are a well documented and studied thing.  The effects show up in anyone who does the exact same things by rote day in and day out for extended periods of time.</p>
<p>Now tell me that the US Military doesn&#039;t fit that.  Also I didn&#039;t say it happened to everyone, its entirely plausible for someone to mentally challenge themselves during their off time.  Special Forces are an interesting example because their missions involved constantly rethinking how they do things.  I&#039;ve yet to meet a SF guy who had their brain locked.</p>
<p>As for my argument, what part can&#039;t you understand?  The part where the command revoked her extension, or the part where they said they would put her kid in CPS.  How about the part where she said she wasn&#039;t trying to get out of deployment and just needed time to find a new caregiver?  Her only negative is that she did a boneheaded thing (not showing up for deployment).  Her reasoning is that she was afraid they would put her kid in CPS, because well they SAID they would.</p>
<p>So far many logical fallacies have been used in place blame / fault on the soldier in question, including but not limited to Ad Hominem, Burden of Proof, Appeal to Authority, Appeal to Ridicule, False Dilemma, Hasty Generalization, Guilt by Association, Straw Man, Genetic Fallacy, Post Hoc, Questionable Cause and Composition.</p>
<p>Of course I don&#039;t expect completely logical debate material from a web forum, but at least people can attempt to not to look the complete fool.</p>
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		<title>By: gerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>gerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah, I don&#039;t buy your argument. 
 
As far as perssonal attacks, I believe your statement that: 
 
 
&quot; the bad ones (side effects) happen once you&#8217;ve been institutionalized too long. Then your very thinking patterns become set, everything becomes a rule or pattern. You repeat the same behavioral patterns every day. Your very life becomes behavioral. Just like your body your mind requires exercise. As you think less and less about your daily actions, parts of your mind start to shutdown and you basically get stupider &quot; 
 
I spent 20 years in the military. Your target subject was those in the military. You have even clarified it to those with 10 or more years in the military. (Of course that would have left you out). 
 
Limit the personal attacks? I only responded to yours. Which seemed to apply. I thought that was a very dumb statement on your part. Otherwise my comments were on target. 
 
Do not make something appear to be someone elses fault when you instigated the issue. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, I don&#039;t buy your argument.</p>
<p>As far as perssonal attacks, I believe your statement that:</p>
<p>&quot; the bad ones (side effects) happen once you&rsquo;ve been institutionalized too long. Then your very thinking patterns become set, everything becomes a rule or pattern. You repeat the same behavioral patterns every day. Your very life becomes behavioral. Just like your body your mind requires exercise. As you think less and less about your daily actions, parts of your mind start to shutdown and you basically get stupider &quot;</p>
<p>I spent 20 years in the military. Your target subject was those in the military. You have even clarified it to those with 10 or more years in the military. (Of course that would have left you out).</p>
<p>Limit the personal attacks? I only responded to yours. Which seemed to apply. I thought that was a very dumb statement on your part. Otherwise my comments were on target.</p>
<p>Do not make something appear to be someone elses fault when you instigated the issue.</p>
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