Comments on: Why the Military Divorce Rate Continues to Grow

By: Andrew

Andrew — Fri, 30 Sep 2011 10:33:31 +0000

Response to Retired GI <- I am asking for a real name? And wet behind the ears Christian? Let me Challenge you if you actually did read* the Bible and not skim it or just look at the words because I would love and welcome a real debate I should be able to get to a web cam and debate in person on youtube and not hide behind a desk. As I stated before It(Marriage) wasn't always a legal thing being married or divorced but because of the hardness of our hearts and because people are sinful the courts got involved and men become judges of others. What is right in their own eye-
So the government spending doesn’t bother you as most Americans I am not surprised.
Truth Never Changes what it’s a statement Women are Equal to men but how people react around them that is their own doing, and I cannot/ nor should I want to force my will on others.
I can respect your opinion on child support I don’t agree with it but hey you have a freedom to voice it.
I agree with what you said about love and sex a lot of people don’t understand what real love is I would bet that some of this is because we don’t articulate ourselves enough part of it but I think the more reason is because (Now pay attention to this one) it’s so easy for me to be me- A sinner and naturally wanting one’s own. It takes an act of God to change us IE Jesus Christ. One can only start to learn true love in this otherwise all* our actions are rooted in selfishness.
I agree there is a big problem in the organized religion that we have and I think there are many problems with it that I am studying right now about the churches dividing. I am convinced that it should be as one Church because don’t we all believe in the same truth?

As for everyone else the topic is why divorce is so high in the military and continues to grow.
-I hope everyone is having a good day

By: Hand Car Wash

Hand Car Wash — Sun, 12 Dec 2010 12:07:21 +0000

divorce is of course one of the worst thing that you could experience but you could get over it '."

By: Chris In Dallas

Chris In Dallas — Sun, 18 Jul 2010 10:59:48 +0000

#56 "Chris In Dallas,

Both of you are right.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/15/interrac…

Well, I said no Judge "in their right mind" would refuse to perform a marriage ceremony on such grounds. JP Bardwell is a good example. The article you reference is dated about 2 weeks before Bardwell resigned his position. As best I can determine, he is currently under the cloud of a civil rights lawsuit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Bardwell#cite_…

By: Retired GI

Retired GI — Sat, 17 Jul 2010 22:16:33 +0000

Andrew, Vampirism? So what, the Army recognizes wiccan. People will worship damn near anything. Look at global warming and Obama for two examples more far fetched than Vampirism. The government is "supposed" to stay out of religion. Except for the fees and license of course.

Tax breaks? Gay or not? Not an issue for me, or the woman that asked for input on her husband in Korea.

Read the bible? Not in a few years. But I have read it front to back, except for the begats. It is not the only source of inspiration or wisdom out there. Somehow, I don't think you agree. Too closed minded. Judging by your feeling that only a Christian can give good advice. I'm sure a Muslim would say the exact same thing.

Women are only equal to men when it suits their purpose. You know that. The other times they play the helpless female used or whatever by the evil male.

You can thank God for the way things are if you wish. I will continue to wait for women to be truely equal rather than playing the victim when it suits them and demanding to be equal when it doesn't.

Granted that some truely are, but today this is not the norm. At least not in America.

As for the child support thing, it was not part of her problem and I would offer nothing in that regard if it were. Courts "government" would favor her automatically. It is not a religious matter. It is a legal matter. They took their vows in a church perhaps, but if there is a divorce it will be a purely "legal" matter. No religion needed for a divorce. Just the legal battle for how much HE pays. Sex (women read love) is so expensive. Really does make "renting" the better option. Most people don't know the difference between the two (sex/love—love/sex) anyway. If it wasn't so unfortunate it would be funny. I know of too many examples.

Not to mention the Deacon's wife that was pursuing the Preacher back when I was a teen. He was let go. And all the good "christian" women sitting around the table, talking about how great it was. Because, of course, the male was to blame.

Never went back. Told the good "christian" women why as well. That was it for me.

I have MORE! But I'm starting to bore myself.

What I really enjoy is when a brand new, still wet behind the ears, attempts to witness to me. You can see it. It's like the latest drug to them. Do not misunderstand. I don't tell them they are wrong. I question them, make them think. Perhaps I help them some. Or not. Most "christians" don't even know their own book.

I heard a Wiccan tell me once that he was unconcerned. He was one of the "others".

Not subject to the original sin.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:47:24 +0000

Just take a look at the facts as you see them thanks again Chickenhead // Though I like it from India's stand point because marriage is so defined as a Religious thing they stay out of it FYI muslims can be married up to 4 times at once and have 4 wives. Retired GI did you know that Vampirism is a nationally recognized religion and that RPs have to accommodate this? There are so many religions out there that the government wants to shout out separation of Church and Gov well shouldn't it go both ways as in the Government should stay out of religion? The #1 reason why its a tax break only for straight couples is it boosts the population levels I.E. producing something in this case children (gay people can adopt but thats not producing also the same argument could be made about single people can they not also adopt?) So the Government want so promote marriage because it produces something. And on the Second point If you ever do read your Bible I would have to strongly agree that Christians should only get advice from other Christians Have you not read Psalm 1? there are many other biblical references I could give but I think that one is pretty clear. Also seriously the courts getting involved to protect the women on divorce? Wha? with so much equal opportunity here in America why shouldn't a women be able to support herself? As far as children go I've heard of all kinds of stories from Example #1 a divorce couple has a kid mother gets the boy from mon-fri and dad on the weekends the dad has to pay child support for the weekdays and the mother the weekends- When the dad doesn't pay the cops are all up in arms but when the mom doesn't pay they could care less. Also the best slogan I've heard for this campaign here in MN is We're dads not wallets. Yet I will say this back in the day when a girl couldn't earn a days wage the women we're getting screwed when it came to divorces and having to live on their own again. Thank God times are different.

By: ChickenHead

ChickenHead — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:25:23 +0000

Chris In Dallas,

Both of you are right.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/15/interrac…

By: Chris In Dallas

Chris In Dallas — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:59:35 +0000

#52: "If you take a look, there are still instances of this still going on judges refusing to marry someone based on the color of their skin."

I took a look at this a couple years ago when I was in law school. There are a a whole series of Supreme Court decisions prohibiting this. No Judge in his/her right mind is going to refuse to marry a couple on such grounds. That's what impeachments are made of!

Weird personal story. I married my Korean wife in an Alabma probate court. The Alabama constitution specifically prohibited interracial marriages, but the Judge we picked helped us tie the knot. You know why? Its because a 30+ year old decision prohibited enforcement of this provision.

Until Andrew or someone else gives valid specifics, I am calling BS!

By: Retired GI

Retired GI — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 06:44:22 +0000

I disagree with #54. Often sticking it out with someone when there is no love or trust left, leads to EXTREME depression and real hate.

If it's over, then it is time to move on. The sooner the better!

I have an ole girlfriend that should have and could have made a clean break ten years ago with her soon to be ex-husband. Too bad she hung on to a man that wasn't worth it.

Her problem was always EXPECTING people to do what they should do. "Keep your expectations of others Low. You will be much happier." Depend on others as little as possible. This action will lead to further happiness.

Divorce is worth it. If you think it's over—it's over.

By: Retired GI

Retired GI — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:23:53 +0000

andrew 52 I feel sad for you man. Everything is a race/hate issue it seems. You spoke more about race than you did marriage. You poor little racist.

Marriage today is a "legal" matter. A way for the courts to make money while insuring that men take care of their women. A means to enforce responsibility. A way for the church to control the people, LONG before there was a place called America.

As for "christian counseling", are you saying that only a professed "christian" can offer good advice on relationships? I know some very good people that do not claim any religion.

Some of my best advice/information came from sitting on a bar stool. Doesn't take a brain surgeon (or a religious person) to understand what the appropriate course of action should be.

To sum up: I find your religious and racist views to be both offensive and short sighted. But I thank you for your words. Reminds me of why I no longer attend any church service.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 06:26:48 +0000

Again I will say seek out good Christian counseling from either the military Chaplain or some other Christian leadership you can respect/relate to Marriage is a Religious practice its not something that the courts decide. The reason why the courts got involved in the first place was do to racist people who didn't want blacks/African Americans getting married, because that was something they weren't allowed to do before slavery so the KKK pushed for marriage licenses. If you take a look, there are still instances of this still going on judges refusing to marry someone based on the color of their skin.