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		<title>By: Frank Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 07:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks GI Korea for your response.  I agree that I was probably being too idealistic about the U.S. and that the U.S.&#039;s response was in line with its own national interests.  And you are right that Korea needs to make defense a higher national priority. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks GI Korea for your response.  I agree that I was probably being too idealistic about the U.S. and that the U.S.&#039;s response was in line with its own national interests.  And you are right that Korea needs to make defense a higher national priority. </p>
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		<title>By: GI Korea</title>
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		<dc:creator>GI Korea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 07:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What international law or human rights you are referring to in 1905 I&#039;m not sure of?  The world was a very different place back then.   
 
You have to remember Roosevelt was a warfighter and probably highly respected the Japanese for their tenacity in defeating both the Chinese and the Russians who Roosevelt clearly disliked.  As far as Korea he knew little about the place and probably didn&#039;t have much respect for the Korean people&#039;s ability for self determination since the Japanese so easily occupied the country.  Most importantly how would protesting the annexation be in America&#039;s national interest?  There was nothing strategically important about Korea at the time and remember the US was busy colonizing the Philippines at the time as well.   
 
The lesson that should be learned is that Korea needs to continue to make defense its number one national priority to be able to prevent such tragic circumstances from happening again. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What international law or human rights you are referring to in 1905 I&#039;m not sure of?  The world was a very different place back then.   </p>
<p>You have to remember Roosevelt was a warfighter and probably highly respected the Japanese for their tenacity in defeating both the Chinese and the Russians who Roosevelt clearly disliked.  As far as Korea he knew little about the place and probably didn&#039;t have much respect for the Korean people&#039;s ability for self determination since the Japanese so easily occupied the country.  Most importantly how would protesting the annexation be in America&#039;s national interest?  There was nothing strategically important about Korea at the time and remember the US was busy colonizing the Philippines at the time as well.   </p>
<p>The lesson that should be learned is that Korea needs to continue to make defense its number one national priority to be able to prevent such tragic circumstances from happening again. </p>
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		<title>By: Retired GI</title>
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		<dc:creator>Retired GI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 11:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me make sure I understand you. 
 
You are upset because (empty words) that would have had no impact were not spoken? 
 
Is that what you mean? 
 
Did Korea even exist (as a Government) after Japan&#039;s conquest?  In relation to cutting off all relations with a Government that no longer existed.  Who would have been speaking for Korea?  Japan? 
 
Yes we know Korea has been a pawn to any country that was more powerful.  The same can be said for many countries around the world that are weaker than their neighbors.  Korea is not special in it&#039;s suffering. 
I also know that the ROK would not exist today, if not for the U.S. which is the symbol of what is good in the world. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me make sure I understand you.</p>
<p>You are upset because (empty words) that would have had no impact were not spoken?</p>
<p>Is that what you mean?</p>
<p>Did Korea even exist (as a Government) after Japan&#039;s conquest?  In relation to cutting off all relations with a Government that no longer existed.  Who would have been speaking for Korea?  Japan?</p>
<p>Yes we know Korea has been a pawn to any country that was more powerful.  The same can be said for many countries around the world that are weaker than their neighbors.  Korea is not special in it&#039;s suffering.</p>
<p>I also know that the ROK would not exist today, if not for the U.S. which is the symbol of what is good in the world. </p>
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		<title>By: Frank Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 11:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that the US probably could not do anything practically about Japan&#039;s colonization of Korea.  But still it is somewhat concerning how Roosevelt wanted Japan to take Korea and that immediately after the annexation cut off all relations w/ Korea. 
 
In terms of human rights in general and in particular w/ regards to Japan&#039;s brutal conquests, Roosevelt&#039;s choosing not to respect international law is troubling. 
 
Korea&#039;s history is filled w/ examples of being the pawn of more powerful countries and it&#039;s sadder when one of those powerful countries is the U.S. that is the symbol of what is supposed to be good. 
 
I would have liked to have seen the U.S. at least protest the annexation and try to recognize Korea&#039;s sovereignty. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the US probably could not do anything practically about Japan&#039;s colonization of Korea.  But still it is somewhat concerning how Roosevelt wanted Japan to take Korea and that immediately after the annexation cut off all relations w/ Korea.</p>
<p>In terms of human rights in general and in particular w/ regards to Japan&#039;s brutal conquests, Roosevelt&#039;s choosing not to respect international law is troubling.</p>
<p>Korea&#039;s history is filled w/ examples of being the pawn of more powerful countries and it&#039;s sadder when one of those powerful countries is the U.S. that is the symbol of what is supposed to be good.</p>
<p>I would have liked to have seen the U.S. at least protest the annexation and try to recognize Korea&#039;s sovereignty. </p>
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		<title>By: GI Korea</title>
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		<dc:creator>GI Korea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank, I mentioned in my posting that the article does provide some interesting historical quotes from Teddy Roosevelt in regards to his respect for the Japanese.  However, whether Roosevelt respected the Japanese or not is irrelevant.  The Japanese already had control over the Korean peninsula in the wake of their victory over the Russians in the Russo-Japanese War and there was nothing the US could do about it.   
 
All Taft-Katsura did was state the obvious, Japan controlled Korea and the US wouldn&#039;t interfere.  
 
Even if the US wanted to help Korea it couldn&#039;t because the US didn&#039;t have the military capacity to do so.  The 1905 US military was as strong or even less strong than the major European powers and the Japanese had just got done defeating the Russians.  What land forces the US had were tied down anyway in the Philippines trying to put down the Moro Rebellion.  
 
Why should the US fight a war it can&#039;t win, for a country unwilling to fight for their own freedom, and of no national interest to the US? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank, I mentioned in my posting that the article does provide some interesting historical quotes from Teddy Roosevelt in regards to his respect for the Japanese.  However, whether Roosevelt respected the Japanese or not is irrelevant.  The Japanese already had control over the Korean peninsula in the wake of their victory over the Russians in the Russo-Japanese War and there was nothing the US could do about it.  </p>
<p>All Taft-Katsura did was state the obvious, Japan controlled Korea and the US wouldn&#039;t interfere. </p>
<p>Even if the US wanted to help Korea it couldn&#039;t because the US didn&#039;t have the military capacity to do so.  The 1905 US military was as strong or even less strong than the major European powers and the Japanese had just got done defeating the Russians.  What land forces the US had were tied down anyway in the Philippines trying to put down the Moro Rebellion. </p>
<p>Why should the US fight a war it can&#039;t win, for a country unwilling to fight for their own freedom, and of no national interest to the US? </p>
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		<title>By: gerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>gerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bradley writes that in permitting Japan to have Korea, Roosevelt &#8220;emboldened them to increase their military might &#8212; and their imperial ambitions. In December 1941, the consequence of Theodore Roosevelt&#8217;s recklessness would become clear to those few who knew of the secret dealings.&#8221; 
 
Sadao Asada points out what should have been obvious to Bradley and the editors of the New York Times: &#8220;Bradley entirely ignores and skips the course of real Japanese aggression from the Manchurian Incident of 1931 to Japan&#8217;s advance to southern Indochina in 1941.&#8221; Of course: there was plenty of policy and policy change in both the US and Japan between 1905 and 1941. But more, &#8220;In my view (shared by many of my Japanese colleagues and most of American specialists in TR&#8217;s diplomacy), the Taft-Katsura Agreement was a part of TR&#8217;s &#8216;realistic&#8217; policy of &#8216;peaceful coexistence&#8217; with Japan based on his sphere-of-influence policy and balance-of-power considerations.&#8221; 
  
 
OK, I cut and pasted. My bad. Also not mentioned is that it would have been a buffer to Russia as well at that time. Bottom line is it had little to do ( nothing) with the start of WWII. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bradley writes that in permitting Japan to have Korea, Roosevelt &ldquo;emboldened them to increase their military might &mdash; and their imperial ambitions. In December 1941, the consequence of Theodore Roosevelt&rsquo;s recklessness would become clear to those few who knew of the secret dealings.&rdquo;</p>
<p>Sadao Asada points out what should have been obvious to Bradley and the editors of the New York Times: &ldquo;Bradley entirely ignores and skips the course of real Japanese aggression from the Manchurian Incident of 1931 to Japan&rsquo;s advance to southern Indochina in 1941.&rdquo; Of course: there was plenty of policy and policy change in both the US and Japan between 1905 and 1941. But more, &ldquo;In my view (shared by many of my Japanese colleagues and most of American specialists in TR&rsquo;s diplomacy), the Taft-Katsura Agreement was a part of TR&rsquo;s &lsquo;realistic&rsquo; policy of &lsquo;peaceful coexistence&rsquo; with Japan based on his sphere-of-influence policy and balance-of-power considerations.&rdquo;</p>
<p>OK, I cut and pasted. My bad. Also not mentioned is that it would have been a buffer to Russia as well at that time. Bottom line is it had little to do ( nothing) with the start of WWII. </p>
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		<title>By: Frank Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make good points in your article. 
 
But don&#039;t you think Senator Bradley made some good points?  Would love to hear what you think. 
 
Back in 1900, Roosevelt had written, &#8220;I should like to see Japan have Korea.&#8221; 
 
&#8220;I have of course concealed from everyone &#8212; literally everyone &#8212; the fact that I acted in the first place on Japan&#8217;s suggestion ... . Remember that you are to let no one know that in this matter of the peace negotiations I have acted at the request of Japan and that each step has been taken with Japan&#8217;s foreknowledge, and not merely with her approval but with her expressed desire.&#8221; 
 
To signal his commitment to Tokyo, Roosevelt cut off relations with Korea, turned the American legation in Seoul over to the Japanese military and deleted the word &#8220;Korea&#8221; from the State Department&#8217;s Record of Foreign Relations and placed it under the heading of &#8220;Japan.&#8221; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make good points in your article.</p>
<p>But don&#039;t you think Senator Bradley made some good points?  Would love to hear what you think.</p>
<p>Back in 1900, Roosevelt had written, &ldquo;I should like to see Japan have Korea.&rdquo;</p>
<p>&ldquo;I have of course concealed from everyone &mdash; literally everyone &mdash; the fact that I acted in the first place on Japan&rsquo;s suggestion &#8230; . Remember that you are to let no one know that in this matter of the peace negotiations I have acted at the request of Japan and that each step has been taken with Japan&rsquo;s foreknowledge, and not merely with her approval but with her expressed desire.&rdquo;</p>
<p>To signal his commitment to Tokyo, Roosevelt cut off relations with Korea, turned the American legation in Seoul over to the Japanese military and deleted the word &ldquo;Korea&rdquo; from the State Department&rsquo;s Record of Foreign Relations and placed it under the heading of &ldquo;Japan.&rdquo; </p>
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		<title>By: usinkorea</title>
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		<dc:creator>usinkorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I&#039;m not mistaken, the Japanese people and press reacted to the peace treaty, which Taft-Katsura was supposed to prepare the way for, were highly pissed off at the deal Japan got:  for the second time, after having fought a war for the the Shantung Peninsula (and Manchuria this time (as well as Korea)), they saw Japan give up conquered territory in the face of &quot;world opposition.&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I&#039;m not mistaken, the Japanese people and press reacted to the peace treaty, which Taft-Katsura was supposed to prepare the way for, were highly pissed off at the deal Japan got:  for the second time, after having fought a war for the the Shantung Peninsula (and Manchuria this time (as well as Korea)), they saw Japan give up conquered territory in the face of &quot;world opposition.&quot; </p>
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		<title>By: usinkorea</title>
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		<dc:creator>usinkorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Manifest Destiny shows the point:  The US was still busy consolidating its hold on what territory it had in North America.  People really need to get their heads out of their butts (not meaning people here) when talking about US imperialism before the end of WWI.   
 
The Monroe Doctrine basically said to the European powers -- who were trying to stave off a WWI by &quot;balancing power&quot; by gobbling up much of the rest of the world - &quot;Stay out of South and Central America.&quot; 
 
If you can show me how the Monroe Doctrine activated the US into colonizing the rest of the Western Hemisphere beyond what it already had semi-control of in North America, I&#039;ll honestly look at it....until then.... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Manifest Destiny shows the point:  The US was still busy consolidating its hold on what territory it had in North America.  People really need to get their heads out of their butts (not meaning people here) when talking about US imperialism before the end of WWI.  </p>
<p>The Monroe Doctrine basically said to the European powers &#8212; who were trying to stave off a WWI by &quot;balancing power&quot; by gobbling up much of the rest of the world &#8211; &quot;Stay out of South and Central America.&quot;</p>
<p>If you can show me how the Monroe Doctrine activated the US into colonizing the rest of the Western Hemisphere beyond what it already had semi-control of in North America, I&#039;ll honestly look at it&#8230;.until then&#8230;. </p>
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		<title>By: Teadrinker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teadrinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My point is that at that point the US may not have been a power to the scale of France or Great Britain (its navy was too small), but it probably wasn&#039;t any weaker than Belgium, Portugal, or the Netherlands.  And, yes, the US had its aspirations.  Read up on the Monroe Doctrine of 1823 and Manifest Destiny. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My point is that at that point the US may not have been a power to the scale of France or Great Britain (its navy was too small), but it probably wasn&#039;t any weaker than Belgium, Portugal, or the Netherlands.  And, yes, the US had its aspirations.  Read up on the Monroe Doctrine of 1823 and Manifest Destiny. </p>
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