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		<title>By: 1SG (R)</title>
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		<dc:creator>1SG (R)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 13:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am totally with retired GI. Before I retired, I declined to be promoted to Sergeant Major because most CSM&#039;s have sold their sole. The CSM position is nothing but an a$$ kissing, political whipping boy who runs around mucking things up for his First Sergeants. I would do away with this position because they are out of touch with reality and make life hard for small units. They will turn on you to please their boss. First Sergeants are company level leaders and need to be left alone to lead their companies.
A small example I will share...I had Gunnery skills training planned for a day, and we were to begin gunnery the next day. Normal practice. I could do that, but the CSM freaked out when his CSM decided he wanted to inspect our barracks on that same day. So we stopped training and went to clean barracks. Then, we shot gunnery the next day with no train-up. As a 1SG, I kept my soldiers well trained on gunnery skills, so we did fine. However, we could have done better if we were able to focus on training. It took two CSMs to scew in that light bulb. This kind of stuff happens regularly. 
We could could cut the deficits a little by doing away with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am totally with retired GI. Before I retired, I declined to be promoted to Sergeant Major because most CSM&#8217;s have sold their sole. The CSM position is nothing but an a$$ kissing, political whipping boy who runs around mucking things up for his First Sergeants. I would do away with this position because they are out of touch with reality and make life hard for small units. They will turn on you to please their boss. First Sergeants are company level leaders and need to be left alone to lead their companies.<br />
A small example I will share&#8230;I had Gunnery skills training planned for a day, and we were to begin gunnery the next day. Normal practice. I could do that, but the CSM freaked out when his CSM decided he wanted to inspect our barracks on that same day. So we stopped training and went to clean barracks. Then, we shot gunnery the next day with no train-up. As a 1SG, I kept my soldiers well trained on gunnery skills, so we did fine. However, we could have done better if we were able to focus on training. It took two CSMs to scew in that light bulb. This kind of stuff happens regularly.<br />
We could could cut the deficits a little by doing away with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 15:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I must say that you think you kknow someone and look up to them and then you are talkiing one day to someone who just got back from Korea and you ask them if they know CSM, now MSG Holder and he tell me about this incident. I cannot believe this I have know Tony for 26 years and weworked on Nukes when the Army had them. Very disappointed in  Antonio. I have know him for over 20 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I must say that you think you kknow someone and look up to them and then you are talkiing one day to someone who just got back from Korea and you ask them if they know CSM, now MSG Holder and he tell me about this incident. I cannot believe this I have know Tony for 26 years and weworked on Nukes when the Army had them. Very disappointed in  Antonio. I have know him for over 20 years.</p>
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		<title>By: G3 SGM (Retired)</title>
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		<dc:creator>G3 SGM (Retired)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 20:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading this story reminded me of a time when I was the SGM of a staff in the ROK back in the 90&#039;s, and I had a young 20 year old Korean PFC as my driver.  
 
One day while sitting in my office doing paperwork, the private (who had recently gotten engaged to his young Korean childhood sweetheart) came in and out of the blue asked me &quot;Sergeant Major, how do you kiss?&quot;   
 
I was quite taken aback by the question and after a moment or two, trying my best to suppress the laughter that was building up inside of me, I said to the private &quot;You mean you&#039;re about to be married and you haven&#039;t even kissed your bride to be?&quot;  He answered &quot;Yes I have, but she keeps complaining to me that I don&#039;t know how to kiss.&quot;   
 
I shifted around uneasily in my chair and again suppressed my strong inclination to burst out laughing as I thought to myself that this young man was dead serious in his question to his Sergeant Major.  Here was a young man about to marry the young lady of his dreams, and he doesn&#039;t even know how to kiss her, or at least not to her satisfaction.   
 
So I said to the private, &quot;Well, Private ____, she obviously loves everything else about you if she&#039;s committed to becoming your wife, so I recommend you ask her how she likes to be kissed.  I&#039;m sure she would gladly show and tell you all about what pleases her in that department.&quot;   
 
A few months after I retired the private contacted me from his new duty station in Fort Polk.  He was happily married then, and still is today as an E-7 after 14 years of marriage.  Once, he even called me and thanked me for the advice I gave him that day about his little dilemma, and reiterated his respect for me as his Sergeant Major and first line supervisor.   
 
As for me, I&#039;m just glad I controlled my urge to laugh, and in spite of the urge, I was able to impart some meaningful advice to him with obviously positive results. 
 
Now, after reading this story about CSM Holder, I cannot help but wonder (had it been him that the private had come to for advice) if he would have taken it upon himself to personally explain, demonstrate, and conduct practical work with the private on the task of &quot;kissing!&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading this story reminded me of a time when I was the SGM of a staff in the ROK back in the 90&#039;s, and I had a young 20 year old Korean PFC as my driver. </p>
<p>One day while sitting in my office doing paperwork, the private (who had recently gotten engaged to his young Korean childhood sweetheart) came in and out of the blue asked me &quot;Sergeant Major, how do you kiss?&quot;  </p>
<p>I was quite taken aback by the question and after a moment or two, trying my best to suppress the laughter that was building up inside of me, I said to the private &quot;You mean you&#039;re about to be married and you haven&#039;t even kissed your bride to be?&quot;  He answered &quot;Yes I have, but she keeps complaining to me that I don&#039;t know how to kiss.&quot;  </p>
<p>I shifted around uneasily in my chair and again suppressed my strong inclination to burst out laughing as I thought to myself that this young man was dead serious in his question to his Sergeant Major.  Here was a young man about to marry the young lady of his dreams, and he doesn&#039;t even know how to kiss her, or at least not to her satisfaction.  </p>
<p>So I said to the private, &quot;Well, Private ____, she obviously loves everything else about you if she&#039;s committed to becoming your wife, so I recommend you ask her how she likes to be kissed.  I&#039;m sure she would gladly show and tell you all about what pleases her in that department.&quot;  </p>
<p>A few months after I retired the private contacted me from his new duty station in Fort Polk.  He was happily married then, and still is today as an E-7 after 14 years of marriage.  Once, he even called me and thanked me for the advice I gave him that day about his little dilemma, and reiterated his respect for me as his Sergeant Major and first line supervisor.  </p>
<p>As for me, I&#039;m just glad I controlled my urge to laugh, and in spite of the urge, I was able to impart some meaningful advice to him with obviously positive results.</p>
<p>Now, after reading this story about CSM Holder, I cannot help but wonder (had it been him that the private had come to for advice) if he would have taken it upon himself to personally explain, demonstrate, and conduct practical work with the private on the task of &quot;kissing!&quot; </p>
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		<title>By: GI Korea</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2009/12/17/command-sergeant-major-court-martialed-for-penis-incident/comment-page-1/#comment-389452</link>
		<dc:creator>GI Korea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 07:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a officer murder case from a couple of years ago: 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://rokdrop.com/2009/03/26/christopher-gray-sentenced-to-life-in-prison-for-murder-of-his-wife/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://rokdrop.com/2009/03/26/christopher-gray-se...&lt;/a&gt; 
 
Here is the story that Lemmy is referring to in his posting: 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://rokdrop.com/2008/10/22/1hbct-commander-officially-stripped-of-his-command/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://rokdrop.com/2008/10/22/1hbct-commander-off...&lt;/a&gt; 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://rokdrop.com/2008/11/16/colonel-thomas-graves-named-new-brigade-commander-in-2id/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://rokdrop.com/2008/11/16/colonel-thomas-grav...&lt;/a&gt; 
 
Also so here is another case of some other possible officer shadiness going on: 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://rokdrop.com/2008/07/29/more-corruption-uncovered-at-camp-humphreys-expansion-project/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://rokdrop.com/2008/07/29/more-corruption-unc...&lt;/a&gt; 
 
Also if you go through the USFK court martial results you will see that there is plenty of officers who get in trouble.  A lot of them for DUI&#039;s: 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://rokdrop.com/?s=court+martial+results&amp;x=0&amp;y=0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://rokdrop.com/?s=court+martial+results&amp;x...&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a officer murder case from a couple of years ago:<br />
  <a href="http://rokdrop.com/2009/03/26/christopher-gray-sentenced-to-life-in-prison-for-murder-of-his-wife/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://rokdrop.com/2009/03/26/christopher-gray-se" rel="nofollow">http://rokdrop.com/2009/03/26/christopher-gray-se</a>&#8230; </p>
<p>Here is the story that Lemmy is referring to in his posting:<br />
  <a href="http://rokdrop.com/2008/10/22/1hbct-commander-officially-stripped-of-his-command/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://rokdrop.com/2008/10/22/1hbct-commander-off" rel="nofollow">http://rokdrop.com/2008/10/22/1hbct-commander-off</a>&#8230;<br />
  <a href="http://rokdrop.com/2008/11/16/colonel-thomas-graves-named-new-brigade-commander-in-2id/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://rokdrop.com/2008/11/16/colonel-thomas-grav" rel="nofollow">http://rokdrop.com/2008/11/16/colonel-thomas-grav</a>&#8230; </p>
<p>Also so here is another case of some other possible officer shadiness going on:<br />
  <a href="http://rokdrop.com/2008/07/29/more-corruption-uncovered-at-camp-humphreys-expansion-project/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://rokdrop.com/2008/07/29/more-corruption-unc" rel="nofollow">http://rokdrop.com/2008/07/29/more-corruption-unc</a>&#8230; </p>
<p>Also if you go through the USFK court martial results you will see that there is plenty of officers who get in trouble.  A lot of them for DUI&#039;s:<br />
  <a href="http://rokdrop.com/?s=court+martial+results&amp;x=0&amp;y=0" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://rokdrop.com/?s=court+martial+results&#038;x" rel="nofollow">http://rokdrop.com/?s=court+martial+results&#038;x</a>&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: ChickenHead</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChickenHead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 20:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the action on this topic is definitely here... 
 
...so, for those of you who missed it, here it is again. 
 
For a CSM and a solder, 
talk of peniis size became bolder. 
Then sarge reached &#8216;cross the seat 
and grasped private meat. 
For he was both toucher and Holder. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the action on this topic is definitely here&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;so, for those of you who missed it, here it is again.</p>
<p>For a CSM and a solder,</p>
<p>talk of peniis size became bolder.</p>
<p>Then sarge reached &lsquo;cross the seat</p>
<p>and grasped private meat.</p>
<p>For he was both toucher and Holder. </p>
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		<title>By: Jinro Dukkohbi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jinro Dukkohbi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 19:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just &#039;made a mistake&#039; huh?  I&#039;m sure if you check just a bit, this isn&#039;t the first time this dude has tried some crap like that.  It never ceases to amaze me in today&#039;s Army environment of CLASS after CLASS on no-no&#039;s in the workplace, people still don&#039;t get it.  If someone&#039;s so infatuated about the size of their own or somebody else&#039;s schlong, perhaps they should look into a job in the adult entertainment industry... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just &#039;made a mistake&#039; huh?  I&#039;m sure if you check just a bit, this isn&#039;t the first time this dude has tried some crap like that.  It never ceases to amaze me in today&#039;s Army environment of CLASS after CLASS on no-no&#039;s in the workplace, people still don&#039;t get it.  If someone&#039;s so infatuated about the size of their own or somebody else&#039;s schlong, perhaps they should look into a job in the adult entertainment industry&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: Leon LaPorte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon LaPorte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 18:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;People makes mistakes and they shouldn&#8217;t be judge for the rest of their life over what one says.&lt;/i&gt; 
 
Some if someone were to assault your family or harm someone you love it is OK? After all, people make mistakes and shouldn&#039;t be judged for the rest of their lives.  :roll: </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>People makes mistakes and they shouldn&rsquo;t be judge for the rest of their life over what one says.</i></p>
<p>Some if someone were to assault your family or harm someone you love it is OK? After all, people make mistakes and shouldn&#039;t be judged for the rest of their lives.  <img src='http://rokdrop.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
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		<title>By: Jinro Dukkohbi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jinro Dukkohbi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 18:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah - the officers seem to always have had their own little special protective deal.  These guys post a video and slip quietly slip quietly away due to a convenient PCS, but the video of the female 1SG getting it on with her E-5 subordinate surfaces and it&#039;s courts martial all around ending in dude blowing his head off.  I&#039;m not saying that whole drama from the trailer park didn&#039;t go where it needed to go - it was wrong on so many levels.  But - it would be nice for some equal treatment when it comes to being a dumba$$, no matter what your rank... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah &#8211; the officers seem to always have had their own little special protective deal.  These guys post a video and slip quietly slip quietly away due to a convenient PCS, but the video of the female 1SG getting it on with her E-5 subordinate surfaces and it&#039;s courts martial all around ending in dude blowing his head off.  I&#039;m not saying that whole drama from the trailer park didn&#039;t go where it needed to go &#8211; it was wrong on so many levels.  But &#8211; it would be nice for some equal treatment when it comes to being a dumba$$, no matter what your rank&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: guitard</title>
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		<dc:creator>guitard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 16:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was this some special video that could only be viewed on the internet in Korea? 
 
So that after they all PCSed out of Korea - all of a sudden that video ceased to matter and they could carry on with their careers as normal? 
 
Please contact your &quot;special friend&quot; and ask -- I&#039;m sure he/she knows the answer. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was this some special video that could only be viewed on the internet in Korea?</p>
<p>So that after they all PCSed out of Korea &#8211; all of a sudden that video ceased to matter and they could carry on with their careers as normal?</p>
<p>Please contact your &quot;special friend&quot; and ask &#8212; I&#039;m sure he/she knows the answer. </p>
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		<title>By: Dragonfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dragonfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 11:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also... along with what Tom said - Because of the publicity, documentation, notoriety, etc. it does set the driver up for claiming a disability based on military sexual trauma.  Even though it sounded like the driver wanted some type of verification/validation of his claims from the SGM.  I think most guys would have gotten the vehicle stopped and been standing outside before he had even started unzipping their pants. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also&#8230; along with what Tom said &#8211; Because of the publicity, documentation, notoriety, etc. it does set the driver up for claiming a disability based on military sexual trauma.  Even though it sounded like the driver wanted some type of verification/validation of his claims from the SGM.  I think most guys would have gotten the vehicle stopped and been standing outside before he had even started unzipping their pants. </p>
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