By Here is a special Korea Finder that I am not even sure what the answer is. By request can anyone give the name of what this old USFK camp in the Western Corridor between Camp Gerry Owen and Camp Stanton is called?
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10:02 am on January 15th, 2010 1
Hmm. Ok it is in "The Munsan Corridor" South Korea, Gyeonggi-do, Paju-si, Tanhyeon-myeon, Nakha-ri.
I don't know if there is a way to get a verifiable answer here. This may have been an area other than a numbered or named camp. Then again, adjushi might have acquired the fence and/or the sign somewhere. I can say I worked at CP Edwards in 2000 time frame. I supported every camp from Howze to JSA which includes Garry Owen (aka Pelham) and Stanton (best chow hall). I recall no camp being there. Nor do I think I would describe this location as being "between" Stanton and Garry Owen.
So, this was an interesting exercise but I'm going to have to go with CP Custer, with a possible of Camp Paine, Camp Brown, TAC 33. Or several of many camp and installations which never had names.
Here is the most complete list of camps in the Western Corridor I have ever seen: http://rickinbham.tripod.com/KoreaMap.htm
11:07 am on January 15th, 2010 2
I believe that was CP Howze. The way it is layed out up the hill there reminds me of CP Howze, but is was not between CP Stanton and CP Gary Owen. It was south east of CP Stanton, I just don't remember how far. I have not been there since 1985 when I was stationed at CP Stanton in the 2/61 ADA. We had to take a bus from CP Stanton to CP Howze in order to catch the bus to Seoul. I could be wrong…
11:19 am on January 15th, 2010 3
Howze was the southern most camp of the Western Corridor. Definitely not Howze. This location is almost in the Imjin. North East of Munsan.
12:07 pm on January 15th, 2010 4
It's not Edwards, Stanton, Howze, Beard, RC4, Garry Owen…Only leaves Semper Fidelis (Ashworth) or Giant, I think…The only thing I could find about Camp Ashworth is that it was open from 1952/55…So, unless there's some other camp around Paju that I don't know of, my guess is this is Camp Giant.
12:11 pm on January 15th, 2010 5
Could still be Ashworth, but I'd imagine the building would look a bit more decrepit…Then again, maybe they are still in use.
12:43 pm on January 15th, 2010 6
But Camp Giant was so close to Garry Owen you could hardly tell were on started and the other stopped
Literally RIGHT down the road. This place is not in that area.
I'm not familiar with Ashworth but this is obviously a much newer Korean building. Only the fence seems to be "original". I'm sure I've been by this place before but there was nothing of any significance there, other than the fence, to point to it as any type of installation. Speaking of the fence, it doesn't look that old but it is hard to tell from a pic…
2:58 pm on January 15th, 2010 7
Good one GI…
Leon,
Giant was closer to RC4 and Camp Pelham, Garry Owen was in Yong Ju gol before they went to Son Ju ri.
I was stationed at Edwards from 1986 to 1987, remember the ville across the MSR…Yong Ter ri.
I'm like you, I don't recall any camps between Garry Owen and Stanton, but then it could be 4 Poppa 3 or 4 Poppa 1
5:18 pm on January 15th, 2010 8
I'm 90% sure it wasn't a US base.
I'm going with ROK 9th Division, 101st Brigade, possibly 5003부대.
7:44 am on January 17th, 2010 9
I was at Cp Garry Owen from 75-77 and there was no compound between us and Stanton but there was a small facility that housed the KSA doing heater work. Pretty sure that is the photo we're looking at.
9:28 am on January 17th, 2010 10
3:07 pm on January 17th, 2010 11
There are several of the signs above around the fence. The entrance is around the fourth arrow in the first picture and there is another gate a little farther down. It had been occupied by the ROK Army but was closed and abandoned when I stopped by. It had a feel of being a base the U.S. had used before, those who have been at a lot of bases in Korea know what I mean by that. I spent time at most of the bases in the Western Corridor in the late 80's early 90's and don't remember a base there during that time. I can't see any reason those signs would be along the fence line unless the U.S. occupied or shared this base at some point and it seems the signs aren't that old, at least not old enough to have faded.
5:48 am on January 18th, 2010 12
In that area, there was a ROK camp, and another compound we called the CIA camp, but that was closer to a stream.
Can you post a live link to that google map?
6:28 am on January 18th, 2010 13
This is pretty close: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&source=hp&a…
9:29 am on January 18th, 2010 14
ASP 512
This was the holding area for the immediate supply of ammo for 4/7 CAV
9:51 pm on January 18th, 2010 15
Lemmy I think your answer is right. You get the point.
12:27 pm on January 19th, 2010 16
When was the photo taken, the ASP for the 4/7CAV was on Stanton in 1975?
12:57 pm on January 19th, 2010 17
The Picture was taken over the the last Christmas Holiday, that is why I think it had to have been returned to the ROK within the last 10 years, the signs look like they are in good condition.
10:55 pm on January 19th, 2010 18
Could this be part of the ROK compound that was across the street from Camp Gary Owens in 1985/86? I remember one being there. I was stationed at Camp Stanton in 85/86 and made the trip to Yongjugol many times….. ? Wasn't there another post to the east of Yongjugol as well? ROK post that is….
1:13 pm on January 20th, 2010 19
There was indeed a ROK compound across the street from Garry Owen. I heard that it was a US Army compound at one time, I remember the remnants of a swimming pool that the ROK's used to dispose of oil being visible from the street. After looking at the google earth view that Leon provided I don't think the area is around Garry Owen or Stanton. It looks to be further north, in the 4 Poppa 1 area. I haven't been to Korea in 23 years but have very fond memories and am amazed at some of the photos of the Yong Ju Gol area.
12:46 am on June 9th, 2010 20
camp ashworth,
positive,
company B 2/9 inf 2nd Inf Div 1969
Manchu
Keep up the fire
imjin scouts
4:29 pm on June 26th, 2010 21
I dont recall seeing anything like those photos. I was stationed at Stanton Aug 87-Dec 89 and traveled by foot and bus alot around the western coridoor.
4:30 pm on June 26th, 2010 22
Check this map out. It is THE camp finder.
http://rickinbham.tripod.com/KoreaMap.htm
1:09 am on April 4th, 2011 23
The compounds were annexes to Camp Stanton. They did not have individual names. I was the S-2 there for a while and had to go inspect them. One was a water treatment facility, and others were ammo storage. All had KSGs guarding and controlling them, but they were US.
12:21 am on April 7th, 2011 24
Having been stationed at Camp Stanton in the 1981-1982 time-frame, I cannot recall any facility located between Camp Stanton and Camp Garry Owen. I do recall the water treatment facility located just north (?) of Stanton that was the turn-around point when running PT. However, unless the building structure was built after my time there, I only recall the water tank being surrounded by a fence with the requisite restricted area signs.
12:07 pm on April 7th, 2011 25
As I said, I was the S-2 in 1984. I was responsible for the security of Camp Stanton. When I got there, I was told that included the Upper compound (quarters), lower compound (H-112) and the water tower (behind the upper compound). During my search for maps, I found a blueprint titled "Camp Stanton and Annexes". It was an architects drawing of the camp, annexes, and their buildings. On the drawing were 4 annexes. The first two were easily identified as the two ammunition holding areas between Garey Owen and Stanton. The other two were a mystery. No one knew what they were. Everyone assumed they were areas that had been turned over to the ROK. I went looking for them and, much to my surprise, found out that they were still under US control. Even more surprising, they were under MY control! The two compounds that had gone missing were the water treatment and pumping station (the third compound between Stanton and Gary Owen, right after the 2nd AHA), and a compound that was occupied only by AAFES and KSGs and was located between Stanton and Howze(the laundry facility for the western corridor). Wen I went into the water treatment facility, the guard signed me in on the log. I asked him to show me the last American who had signed in. He went into the main building, searched his filing cabinet, and came out with a log dated 1979. Apparently, from 1979-1984, the only visitors to the camp were the security guards and the guy who came to check the pump and dump chemicals into the water every day.
2:24 am on April 11th, 2011 26
Wow. Do we even control Camp Stanton anymore? I remember replacing the sand bags around the TOC (the building in the middle of the air strip) in 1988 from the ground up. 3 Feet thick and 12 feet high. That is the same time frame we became the 5/5 ADA. I think we were the 1/69th ADA before that, if my memory serves me correctly. I hiked all over the hills around Stanton all the way to Pelham. I spent many off hours hiking around that area and I have a lot of photos but don't recall the shed. I do remember the ammo dump on the way out of Stanton toward Young Gi Gol and we used to come out there on our 20 mile forced march.
3:49 am on April 11th, 2011 27
#26 Short answer. No. The entire Western Corridor is defunct. Last I saw most of those camps are grown up in weeds. The only camp I've seen where the Koreans are doing anything with the land is the former Camp Nimble, but that's not the Western Corridor.
2:13 pm on April 11th, 2011 28
GI Korea 15, how can you award the point while the debate gos on?
3:30 pm on April 11th, 2011 29
Randy Miller, I don't know about after, but in 1984 Stanton was occupied by 2/61 ADA. I know HHB and a line battery (I think it was D?) were at Stanton. I think the other batteries were: C Battery at Stanley, A at RC#4, so B must have been…..at Stanton also, or more likely, at Casey. But other than HHB, 2/61 ADA, I am not positive. I still remember the "Dragonslayer" and "Clear the skys" response though.
11:52 am on April 14th, 2011 30
Yea, 2/61 that sounds right. I knew it was 60 something. It was changed to 5/5 ADA right after I got there in Summer of 1987. In fact, I came from 2/5 ADA 2dn Armored Div from Ft. Hood.
I worked in the S-3 Section working as the TOC NCOIC in the middle of the motorpool until the Armor went AWOL and then took over that and HHB Training NCO. As S-2 your probably remember having to keep a CUCV warmed up in the winter to go to Camp Howze to pick up intel early in the morning or was that just us S-3 folks at the TOC that did it for ya? Yea, it was HHB and D Battery at Stanton.
One cool thing was I took a weeks leave and watched the Olympics in Seoul. As the training room NCO I was able to slip the leave papers through the HHB Commander for signature before they realized we would end up on alert for the Olympics. By the time the 1SGT and CDR figured it out I had already purchased a dozen tickets to wrestling, judo and volleyball and dissapeared down the Western Cooridoor on bus.
10:34 am on April 28th, 2011 31
I remember going to Cp Howze to see the Bde S-2 on a weekly basis, but I also remember giving him more than he gave us. The only intel brief we got was the courier from G-2 who came by once a week to deliver the black book to the S-2 and Commander.
9:35 pm on October 29th, 2011 32
I too was at CP Stanton from 74-76. B Trp 4/7. If you ain’t Cav. You ain’t ****! Thanks to General Emerson and his pro-life program we ran 4 miles everyday usually toward CP Garry Owen. I also lived in a hooch in the small farming village by the river about 1/2 way between the two for a short time. I don’t remember the name. I do not recall any old camps except perhaps by the tank trap where the orphanage was but it didn’t look anything like the pic. here.
9:46 pm on October 29th, 2011 33
Also. The swimming pool that was used for old oil was in what had been RC1 and had already been taken by the ROK’s prior to 74. It was very close to Yongugol if not right in it if you took a right at the intersection and went about 100 yards. Te Camp was on both sides of the road. There was also football field on the right side that was used to store old oil drums. I lived just behind it for awhile too.
7:08 am on November 26th, 2011 34
Y was stationed at CP Stanton in 1988-89. Was there when it switched from 2/61 to 5/5. Got my sgt. stripes there. Randy, don’t remember you, but I didn’t know a lot of guys there. What was the 1st Sgt’s clerks name? Man did I battle with 1st Sgt. Luzader a lot. Never hiked around the camp much, didn’t think we could. Made a lot of trips to the village and to Seoul. I also skipped camp for the Olympics. Man what a week!! Would love to get in contact with some of the Dragonslayers if they are around.
7:09 am on November 26th, 2011 35
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