By Remember how I said just a week ago that the global warming faithful would next turn to earthquakes as being caused by man to further spread their doomsday cult? Well here you go:
Says Glover: “When we see what we did at the climate summit in Copenhagen, this is the response, this is what happens, you know what I’m sayin’?” [Tim Blair]
No I am not a fortune teller, I just know these people better then they know themselves.
10:11 pm on January 24th, 2010 1
You're reading too much into this. Celebrities are just prone to talk nonsense.
12:19 am on January 25th, 2010 2
Hugo Chavez, Sean Penn and other Hollyweird elites will host a pity party for Haiti, blaming the US of course. I was channel surfing, I saw Anderson Cooper doing a 360 on Sean Penn, Penn says "Haiti is like this everyday, THOUSANDS of people die here everyday!"..how often has that piece of trash been to Haiti?
Spotlight Rangers..everyone of them.
2:33 am on January 25th, 2010 3
These idiots need to spend some time in my science class. Tell them tomorrow we start learning Newtons 3 Laws of gravity. I hope they pass the class, it involves demonstrating each law. Like letting a book fall on the head of Mr. Glover!
5:36 am on January 25th, 2010 4
DoDDsEurope/Pac,
"These idiots need to spend some time in my science class. Tell them tomorrow we start learning Newtons 3 Laws of gravity."
I'm awful curious if Newtons (sic) 3 Laws (sic) of gravity are related more to Newton's (single) law of gravity or Newton's three laws of motion.
Normally I wouldn't say anything but I do believe those responsible for things should be held to a higher standard in regards to those things… cops to the law… officers to military honor and discipline… teachers to correct English and, if possible, mastery of the fundamentals of the subjects they teach.
Maybe I am old-fashioned.
8:59 am on January 25th, 2010 5
Seemed like just the right amount. I was disappointed to learn that Glover is such an idiot.
Will not be able to watch his movies again.
10:33 am on January 25th, 2010 6
There is absolutely a correlation between earthquakes and glaciers as witnessed by the constant seismic activity which took place in Alaska, Canada and Scandinavia as the glaciers in those areas melted. That being said, I know that Haiti is not Alaska and he knows that also. Raising the issue that there is a relationship between earthquakes and glaciers isn’t nonsensical at all and does not warrant him being called an “idiot” or a member of a “doomsday cult”. No, what’s nonsensical is offering the typically baseless reaction that makes all you climate-change deniers look much worse than Glover.
11:10 am on January 25th, 2010 7
I wouldn't say he's an idiot. He simply knows nothing about science (I read he studied economics).
11:12 am on January 25th, 2010 8
Sure. As I was saying, he's not a scientist.
11:21 am on January 25th, 2010 9
No, he's not. But you know who are? -The people who have researched the correlation between earthquakes and climate-change. They're scientists.
Going by your logic, no one should be able to talk about science except scientists. Sorry, GI. Teadrinker says doesn't think you're qualified to discuss this topic anymore.
11:26 am on January 25th, 2010 10
Just some points:
GIKorea's use of the vid is appropriate only because he did call it. The relevant part comes in at the 1:50 mark. After almost 2 minutes of heart-rending footage of devastation, the hypothetical musing of anthropogenic meteorologico-techtonic theorist, Danny Glover, shocks you into laughter. It is quite an emotional response.
However, GIKorea uses the vid to highlight the wrong trend. Danny Glover is not the beginning of a trend towards a movement by the scientific community to blame earthquakes on the weather. To believe this is silly. Mr. Glover seemed to have been, more, venting his frustration on a political topic and ended up confusing himself by conflating the obviously non-related phenomomena of manmade climate change and manmade earthquakes with earthquakes we experience simply because we live on earth, a planet known for having earthquakes. Daily.
Rather, Mr. Glover's response is merely the latest in one of our most cherished and ancient of traditions: blaming disastrous events on man's perniciousness and stupidity.
Some of the more famous recent examples of the trend include:
-Buddhist and ordained minister of the Universal Life Chuuch, Sharon Stone, reveals that the Sichuan earthquake of 2008 was merely the act of Karma:
"Well you know it was very interesting because at first, you know, I'm not happy about the way the Chinese are treating the Tibetans because I don't think anyone should be unkind to anyone else. And so I have been very concerned about how to think and what to do about that because I don’t like that. And I had been this, you know, concerned about, oh how should we deal with the Olympics because they are not being nice to the Dalai Lama, who is a good friend of mine. And then this earthquake and all this stuff happened, and then I thought, is that Karma? When you're not nice then the bad things happen to you?"
It seems that, to Karma, the political repression by the Chinese government of the people of Tibet is roughly equivalent to the worth of the lives of about 68,000 Chinese people, whose surviving relatives face political repression by the Chinese government.
-Of course, we shouldn't forget the recent passing of one of our most cherished Spotlight Rangers, who are celebrity commentators in search of disaster and suffering. I am referring, of course, to the Rev. Jerry Falwell.
Re 9/11:
" I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU [American Civil Liberties Union], People For the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularise America. I point the finger in their face and say, 'you helped this happen'."
Re AIDS epidemic:
"Aids is not just God's punishment for homosexuals, it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals,"
Contrary to what some Americans believe, it seems that God truly hates America.
Finally, I should point out that there are always contrary hypotheses for why any given disaster occurs. For instance, contrary to what Danny Glover thinks, Pat Robertson thinks that he knows the real reason for the earthquake. And he, just like Danny Glover, believes that the earthquake was man-made, albeit, with a little help from invisible people with superpowers.
"And you know Kristi, something happened a long time ago in Haiti and people might not want to talk about it. They were under the heel of the French, uh, you know, Napoleon the third and whatever. And they got together and swore a pact to the Devil. They said we will serve you if you’ll get us free from the French. True Story. And so the Devil said, “OK, it’s a deal.” And they kicked the French out. You know, the Haitians revolted and got themselves free. But ever since they have been cursed by one thing after the other, desperately poor."
He says that their only solution is to “turn[ed] to God.”
11:35 am on January 25th, 2010 11
So what are you trying to say?
Are you really saying that man caused the Haitian earthquake? Because if you are not, you should be aware that that is the position you are defending. And that is a tough position to defend regardless of your beliefs on manmade global warming.
2:06 pm on January 25th, 2010 12
I'm not questioning whether melting glaciers have anything to do with earthquakes, but the logic. The glacial earthquakes that you speak of occur in the Arctic and Antartic, where there are retreating glaciers. There are no glaciers near Haiti. It's not simply a matter of correlation not being causation, as you can see.
I imagine the reason the earthquake was so devastating is that Haiti, an impoverished nation with lax building standards, is located above the fault that runs between the Carribean and North American tectonic plates.
(By the way, my first degrees were in science).
2:36 pm on January 25th, 2010 13
Teadrinker and lollabrats:
"I know that Haiti is not Alaska and he knows that also."
Read closer. I did not suggest that the Haiti quake was because of glacial changes, I said that he was merely "…raising the issue that there is a relationship between earthquakes and glaciers".
lollabrats said that there's…
"…a movement by the scientific community to blame earthquakes on the weather."
Tellingly simplistic.
5:46 pm on January 25th, 2010 14
I "studied" many things in my life. I remain unimpressed.
My most valuable lession is not to speak of things not understood. Glover seems to not know that one.
I knew a few highly educated people during my service. Get them out of that one field and they are worse than useless.
Glover is one of those that is sure he knows, what he obviously does not. I'll update him from idiot to a simple clown. Likely more accurate.
10:18 pm on January 25th, 2010 15
All right…
But, in his defense, Danny Glover was rambling, so it's really hard to tell what point he was trying to make.
1:35 am on January 26th, 2010 16
"I knew a few highly educated people during my service. Get them out of that one field and they are worse than useless."
Went to grad school at a top university in my second field and was in an elite unit while in the military. So was my dad, for that matter. So, really, you need to use a different argument with me.
3:54 am on January 26th, 2010 17
Teadrinker, you "should" understand by now that you will not impress me.
"second field", so your telling me you understand TWO subject areas? OK, if you want me to be impressed so badly—WOW! Hope that got you off!
As for your Dad, he raised a Liberal, self grandios son that doesn't understand that being from Canada does not exclude also being a liberal. So your Dad does not impress me. Nothing personal toward your Dad.
Just an observation. No attack intended.
I love it when people try to impress me with their qualifications rather than their thoughts. As I said, I've known just a few highly "educated" individuals that could not comprehend a clutch or shoot a rifle.
If you were "top" this and "elite" that, as well as the sperm of same, you wouldn't be wasting your time trying to impress little ole me.
But thanks for the attention. I'm very lonely in my 300k house on top of the hill by the lake.
10:49 am on January 26th, 2010 18
My dad's first degrees are in theology…Yeah, he's such a liberal.
11:07 am on January 26th, 2010 19
"I love it when people try to impress me with their qualifications rather than their thoughts. As I said, I’ve known just a few highly “educated” individuals that could not comprehend a clutch or shoot a rifle."
Not trying to impress you, just pointing out that you were making a hasty generalization.
11:17 am on January 26th, 2010 20
Hasty generalization about Glover? Yes, you pointed that out and I updated him to a simple Clown.
Now why, did you feel the need to tell me of your top in this and elite in that? In the context of Glover's silliness, how does that fit?
11:47 am on January 26th, 2010 21
"I knew a few highly educated people during my service. Get them out of that one field and they are worse than useless."
Here's why.
11:48 am on January 26th, 2010 22
In any case…A house by the lake…You win.
1:02 pm on January 27th, 2010 23
Umm glaciers float on top of water, earth quakes are caused by relief of stress near tectonic plates (its more complicated then that but not wanting to write an essay here). The only way that is physically possible for glaciers to effect quakes is if the glacier somehow absorbed the shock wave from the wake, and then it would be glaciers effecting tidal waves that are produced from those quakes.
Seriously, the pressure is from the plates pressing against each other, how the hell does a giant floating ice cube effect that. Even the ice shelves are mostly supported by the water underneath them and not the small part of land their attached to.
1:29 pm on January 27th, 2010 24
Go ahead, look it up. Ok continue…