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Korean Speed Skaters Disqualification Leads to Chinese Gold

Here we go again, what will be interesting to see is if Korean netizens will either blame the Australian referee as being behind a Chinese or US conspiracy:

Eight years after Kim Dong-Sung had his gold medal stripped when judges determined he cut off Apolo Anton Ohno, the country was served another crushing disqualification when its women’s 3,000 meter relay team had gold taken away when it was ruled that a skater had illegally bumped a Chinese competitor on a turn. The DQ moved China to the gold medal position and gave the United States a surprise bronze.

If the disqualification of Kim Dong-Sung in 2002 is any indication, South Koreans will be irate with the decision. According to Olympic historian David Wallechinsky, in the hours after Kim’s DQ, his fans flooded IOC servers with 16,000 angry emails protesting the call. It certainly won’t help matters that the ref who disqualified Kim eight years ago was the same ref who made the fateful decision Wednesday in Vancouver.

Yes, South Korea, Jim Hewish did it to you again. The chief referee was in a precarious situation though. The offending bump was obvious, but it wasn’t clear that it should lead to a disqualification. Relays tend to be judged a little looser than regular short track events, so there was thought that Hewish might let the contact go. But after three minutes of deliberation, he decided that the bump had impeded China’s progress.  [Yahoo Sports]

You can watch video of the race here.

The Korean coach is of course pissed off and put on big show after the race:

South Korea coach Choi Kwang-bok banged his fists in anger, glared at officials and argued with Australian referee James Hewish but nothing could change the fact his women’s relay team had been disqualified in an Olympic short track 3,000 metres final.Cho Ha-ri, Kim Min-jung, Lee Eun-byul and Park Seung-hi had already done several victory laps around the rink waving flags to the cheering throng of Korean fans when the dreaded letters “DQ” flashed up on the scoreboard, handing China victory.

Kim had apparently impeded Chinese skater Sun Lunlin.

While his skaters dissolved into tears, Choi was incandescent with rage at what he thought was an unfair decision.

“I argued with the referee at the end … but he ignored me and then he left. Today there was no crash between the bodies or body contact so I have no clue why we were disqualified,” he told reporters through a translator.

“It was out of my control when the judges made their decision. The main referee (Hewish) is from Australia and he misjudged it when Kim Dong-sung … was skating (in 2002) and disqualified. It was the same referee.”  [Yahoo Sports]

Here is what he had to say after seeing the foul:

When it was pointed out to Choi that Kim Min-jung’s blades had made contact with China’s Sun Linlin with a few laps to go, he said: “The blade contact is no reason for disqualification.”

The NBC analysts agreed with Choi’s explanation as well.  If you watch the video you can see that it appeared China would win the race until the bump happened and Korea took an insurmountable lead.  That is probably what played on the mind of the referee.  However, with that many skaters on such a small track how are people not supposed to bump into each other?  Anyway it does seem like a pretty petty way to disqualify an entire team with 5 laps to go, but rules are the rules.

I bet this doesn’t blow up into full netizen outrage simply because it does not involve the US getting the Gold and Kim Yu-na is going to be dominating the headlines the rest of the week.  By the way the US team was really lucky to get the bronze because they were way behind the other teams.  However, in sports and even in life, it is sometimes better to be lucky than good.

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  • kevo
    12:08 am on February 25th, 2010 1

    there is terrible reffing in a lot of sport. see third item in link:

    http://soccerphile.blogspot.com/2010/02/world-soc

    What can you do but boycott the matches….

  • Anthoni Snow
    12:32 am on February 25th, 2010 2

    Death threat against Ohno, throwing water bottles at Chinese filmer, fist pounding by coach. What causes such Korean rage? Is it the spicy food? Learn some civility and self control.

  • Teadrinker
    2:30 am on February 25th, 2010 3

    I watched the "collision" from a few angles. From the back, you can't see much since skaters are blocking the view at the moment the "collision" supposedly occurred (doesn't prove whether the skates collided or not). From one angle, though, it certainly looks like the Korean skater cut off the Chinese and may have also clipped her skate in the process, thus sending her swerving to the right. So, if the decision was a mistake, it's probably an understandable one.

  • Teadrinker
    2:33 am on February 25th, 2010 4

    The coach needs to appeal the decision through the proper channels instead of trying to spin this into something it isn't. He knows all too well that skating aggressively is a calculated risk (you win some and sometimes you're disqualified). It's not the first time his skaters have been disqualified, and it probably won't be the last.

  • Teadrinker
    2:39 am on February 25th, 2010 5

    …But, he must appeal it. I'd rather the medal go to Korea than China, regardless of the fact it wouldn't have happened if the Korean wasn't skating so aggressively.

  • John
    2:40 am on February 25th, 2010 6

    Wow, I personally can't wait until the olympic's over so we can go to back to our usual topics.

    One of the posts on ESPN claimed that the team running in 3rd place (US or Canada not sure) caused a bigger/visible violation that slowed down the team in 4th place (US or Canada not sure). He felt if this Korea/Chinese was enough for DQ, than that incident between 3rd and 4th place should've brought a DQ also.

    Anyone else saw that?

  • Teadrinker
    2:49 am on February 25th, 2010 7

    Nope. I've had my fill of short-track racing for the next 4 years. I honestly stopped paying attention after a couple of races. I only looked up the video of the "collision" because the way it was described on the news, it was a terrible decision (turns out it isn't as cut and clear).

  • John
    2:55 am on February 25th, 2010 8

    The poster on ESPN said that the contact between Canada/US is shown near the edge of the TV screen, hence most people might not catch it. Just wondering.

  • Retired GI
    3:05 am on February 25th, 2010 9

    "Learn some civility and self control."

    An, you ask for too much now my friend! They know nothing of civility and self control. Well, maybe a few do. But it is not something natural to their race, it would seem, accourding to the actions you listed above.

  • John
    3:11 am on February 25th, 2010 10

    Haha, some people do call Koreans 'the Italians of Asia'.

  • Chris In Dallas
    3:39 am on February 25th, 2010 11

    But think of all the curling we will miss!! Seriously, I concur. I don't think Ive watched one second of Olympic coverage. About the only things I am even half-heartedly following is Kim Yu Na and the US Hockey Team. Don't really go out of my way for either…

  • JohnT
    4:52 am on February 25th, 2010 12

    Even I can admit that DQ was bullshit. I will have to be fair and side with the koreans on this one.

    I've always heard that koreans are as the Irish of Asia. I can see how they can be considered the Italians of Asia though.

    korean nutizens are going bonkers over this. They're posting the personal info of Hewish online. They're also using the racial slur "Chinks" and saying general stuff korea nutizens do. Totally expected.

    I think the majority of Korean nationals will rise up against this minority of people and force them to stop doing this- just like they always do when this kinda thing happens.

    Imagine what would happen to Ohno, Hewish, the Chinese and others if this Olympics were being hosted in korea!

    The mayhem would probably resemble what happens when an English or some other European soccer team loses or wins a game.

  • JoeC
    5:53 am on February 25th, 2010 13

    Australian English teachers should dread going to work today.

  • The Korean
    5:56 am on February 25th, 2010 14

    But it is not something natural to their race…

    Ascribing certain "natural" characteristics to a particular race = the most classic definition of racism.

  • Retired GI
    7:40 am on February 25th, 2010 15

    OK, call it racism if you wish. I know many people that enjoy using that word to shut people up. Don't work with me. S O R R Y :grin:

    You offered NOTHING to indicate where I might be wrong.

    You see, it is like this: EVERYONE is RACIST to some degree.

    Koreans are at the top of that list.

    Blacks are good basketball players. A RACIST statement, which just happens to be true.

    Koreans are good at Math. A RACIST statement, which happens to be true.

    Koreans are good at taking the ideas of others and Improving on them. (told to me BY a korean). Another RACIST statement.

    Are you going to say that another race is better than yours "overall"?

    If you are unable to say that, than YOU might be a RACIST.

    I call it "situational awareness". If you visit another country, you should understand how they think and act. That requires that you must JUDGE THEM, as a race or people. If you don't do this, you are likely to offend without meaning too.

    But don't bother to think about what I said. Your one of those that enjoys name calling. I suppose that it gives you a feeling of being better than you might be.

    Anywho, here are some more examples of MY RACISM: I enjoy the company of asian women. But if all I want is sex, than american women with african background are better. They seem to know what they are doing!

    American women of a english background are the worst. How's that for some RACISM? I might even have gotten some SEXISM in that one.

    Some things are more natural to one race than the other.

    My eyes are open and no amount of name calling from you will make me close them. Go talk to a Liberal if you want that reaction.

    Thanks :grin: I've been wanting to say that for a while :lol:

  • 7Ø7
    8:13 am on February 25th, 2010 16

    Canada was 3rd, and the US had fallen way back.

    Intrigued by the allegation, I looked up who would've been the default winner had Canada been DQed. The winner is…the Netherlands.

    I wish there were more ski cross events.

  • Typo
    8:26 am on February 25th, 2010 17

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  • tellos
    8:44 am on February 25th, 2010 18

    Blacks are good basketball players

    Are you talking about black people of Africa, or India, Srilanka, Native Australian?

    I'm sure there is a black gene in their DNA.

  • JoeC
    8:47 am on February 25th, 2010 19

    You mention the Netherlands and an interest in ski cross. Are you Dutch? What do you think about what just happened with the 4 man bobsled?

    Can you imagine? A guy makes it to the Olympics, as the leader of a team in a sport that is known for it's high speed and always on the edge of crashing, then decided he can't compete because he is afraid?

  • Hamilton
    9:45 am on February 25th, 2010 20

    The DQ was BS, but there will be no backlash against China. Only Americans or Japanese get that treatment.

  • guitard
    11:12 am on February 25th, 2010 21

    I saw on the news this morning that they're beefing up security at the Australian embassy in Seoul.

  • Retired GI
    11:43 am on February 25th, 2010 22

    I'm sure I have a black gene, but I suck at basketball.

    Never been to the locations you list, so I really can not make a guess.

  • Teadrinker
    12:09 pm on February 25th, 2010 23

    I saw the collision that led to the Korean team being disqualified on TV in slow motion. You can clearly see that her arm hit the Chinese skater's face hard enough that it shook at the elbow as she crossed her path, so, even if the skates didn't connect (it looks like they did), disqualifying her for impeding was the right call.

    Here's something interesting:

    "Protests against any decisions concerning infringements of the racing rules will not be accepted."

    http://www.olympics.org.uk/sportrules.aspx?gt=W&a

    In other words, the Korean coach was putting on a show. He darn well knew the judge wouldn't listen.

  • Teadrinker
    12:11 pm on February 25th, 2010 24

    Sounds extreme until you remember that some schmuck burned down Namdaemun for even dumber reasons.

  • Teadrinker
    12:16 pm on February 25th, 2010 25

    Sure, it's doubtful that the Chinese skater's cheek was really cut in the collision since the Korean was wearing gloves (I think she was hit in the chin or the lips and then smeared the blood on her cheek for dramatic effect), but based on what I saw, the decision wasn't BS.

  • NC47
    12:34 pm on February 25th, 2010 26

    It doesn't matter what the video shows, Koreans will cry foul no matter what evidence you show them. God help us all if Kim Yu-Na doesn't win gold tonight, Koreans will be jumping off building everywhere.

  • someotherguy
    1:22 pm on February 25th, 2010 27

    The same can be said for the over use of the word "white". Are we talking scotish, english, irish, italian, french, german, dutch, finnish or russian (to name but a few). I'm sure there is some sort of "white" gene they all have or something………

  • someotherguy
    1:26 pm on February 25th, 2010 28

    I was watching this match on TV when the incident happened. The chinese girls skate clinked into the korean girls skate causing the korean to temporarily loose balance (I thought ohh sh!t she's gonna fall). She threw her arm out to balance herself and prevent from falling. That arm just happened to make contact with the chinese girl who was behind her.

    What makes me angry about the reffing is they basically said its ok for the chinese girls skate to come into contact with the korean girls and cause her to nearly fall, but its not ok for the korean girl to throw her arm out to attempt to regain her balance (but in more political wording). If your gonna DQ one you need to DQ both of them.

  • Teadrinker
    1:26 pm on February 25th, 2010 29

    Or rather, disqualifying her for impeding not an unjust call.

  • Retired GI
    4:00 pm on February 25th, 2010 30

    Good catch! Tell the American Army! On their list of Races that were involved in my deployment to Iraq, they had "White" listed as a "race". One Sergeant who was very "white" refused to check it and checked "other". When questioned, he replied that "white" was a color, not a "race". When they had European American or Irish American, he would be happy to check one. The guy behind him was very "black". He also checked "other" for his race. The African American female EO rep at the desk was quite beside herself and asked why he did not check "african american". He replied that he was from Trinidad and found it insulting to be thought an African American just because he was black.

    I actually know one guy that is FROM africa. He became a U.S. ARMY and now checks the African American block. :lol:

    He is "white". :lol: Keeps a copy of the birth certificate on him. Unlike the President. :lol:

  • Retired GI
    4:03 pm on February 25th, 2010 31

    Is there a problem there? As long as they are not pushing others!

  • UpUpandAway
    6:25 pm on February 25th, 2010 32

    Does anyone think Korea has a chance to host the winter olympics after a bomb threat to the Australian Embassy was made over the DQ by the Australian judge? I would say Australia has a better chance at hosting the Winter Olympics after the BS.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/olympics/winter/2010/sh

  • Eunkyu Choi
    8:31 pm on February 25th, 2010 33

    Well, thanks for the info. I didn't know that part 'cause I didn't really watched. Although I was really mad about DQ, I thought that was the rule. Well, no wonder Korean coach said referees doesn't like Korea so the team should work harder.

  • archieb
    7:50 am on February 26th, 2010 34

    All DQ's in this Olympics are racist.

  • Teadrinker
    12:23 pm on February 26th, 2010 35

    One problem with your interpretation: there would have been no collision if the Korean skater hadn't cut off the Chinese from the inside on the curve.

  • Teadrinker
    12:33 pm on February 26th, 2010 36

    Have you ever been to Pyeongtaek? One highway goes into town and it takes hours to get there from any large urban center when traffic is light. They really need to improve accessibility if they hope to host the games.

  • Teadrinker
    12:34 pm on February 26th, 2010 37

    Besides that, it would be a nice place to hold the games.

  • Teadrinker
    12:35 pm on February 26th, 2010 38

    I meant Pyeonchang, obviously.

  • Teadrinker
    1:44 pm on February 26th, 2010 39

    Well, brace yourselves. Anton Ohno may have just cost a Korean skater the gold (yes, may. It was a tight race, anyone could have won it). He was disqualified for pushing a Canadian skater with his right hand in the last curve before the finish line. The Canadian fell into the Korean as he was passing or being passed by another Canadian skater (like I said, it was a very tight race) who nearly fell down, too. The Canadian who didn't fall won gold, the Korean got silver and the last Canadian skater got bronze after Ohno was disqualified.

  • Joyce
    5:22 pm on February 26th, 2010 40

    The Koreans are all a bunch of cowards hiding behind computers and making death threats? Grow up. This is the Olympics! Not some stupid high school court yard fight.

    Ohno from the US got DQ-ed and that was the end of it. There are rules for a reason. If the Koreans can't follow them, maybe they should stay away from the Olympics. Nobody needs a bunch of crying lunatics at the games.

  • Greg
    6:41 pm on February 26th, 2010 41

    One thing is for sure, Korean controversies turned short track speedskating into a very popular sport in the last 8 years. Americans wouldn't know who Apolo Ohno is, without the Korean controversies. The media milks the Korean controversies for all its worth.

  • archieb
    7:14 pm on February 26th, 2010 42

    Very true

  • guitard
    12:51 pm on February 27th, 2010 43

    Joyce

    12:22 am on February 27th, 2010

    The Koreans are all a bunch of cowards hiding behind computers and making death threats?

    Please post a link to a credible source that says death threats were made against Jim Hewitt because of his decision to DQ the Korean women's team.

  • Teadrinker
    2:40 am on February 28th, 2010 44

    As far as I know, it was one guy who sent a bomb threat in the form of text message with his own cell phone. He supposedly did the same when his worker's union was on strike (I'm guessing he got a slap on the wrist the first time because there's no way he could be stupid enough to think he wouldn't get caught).

  • kushibo
    6:01 am on February 28th, 2010 45

    There was a single (?) bomb threat in 2006 against the Swiss embassy and now a single (?) bomb threat against the Australian embassy. Empty threats though they may be, that's plural bomb threats.

    If this trend continues, there will be one-quarter of a bomb threat in 2011. Someone stop the madness now!

  • Nathan
    2:16 pm on March 8th, 2010 46

    C'mon Kushibo, you know what they say, third time's the charm…

 

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