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Korean Women Increasingly Prefer Foreign Husbands

Here is some red meat for everyone to chew over:

Koo Hee-ok, a 29-year-old office worker in Sydney, has been in a relationship with the Australian man she met there a year ago, and the couple plans to tie the knot in the next two years.

Born and educated in Seoul, Koo went to the Land Down Under to get her master’s degree in accounting in her late 20s and then got a job at a local firm. She did not consider marriage before meeting the man she now considers her life mate. She had a few Korean boyfriends in her early 20s, and dated some Korean men in Sydney as well. But she could not help feeling repulsed by what she described as their “typical way of thinking.”

“I was upset about Korean men making chauvinistic remarks, that women are supposed to be coy and kind and that it’s even better if [a potential marriage partner] is younger, pretty and knows how to cook,” she said via e-mail. “ I have never heard the foreigners I’ve dated say such things.”

The men she is talking about sound as though they are straight from the dark ages. But there is still a considerable portion of Korean men, even those in their 20s and 30s, who think that way, according to the Korean bachelorettes interviewed for this article. Many of these women – who have lived overseas, are well-educated and have good jobs – have opted to find husbands among non-Koreans, who they think are more open-minded and respectful of women than their Korean counterparts.  [Joong Ang Ilbo]

Here are the foreigners that Korean women are most likely to marry:

According to the state-run Statistics Korea, the number of Korean men who married women from outside the country more than tripled to 25,142 between 2000 and 2009. China had the highest number of women who married Korean men, at 11,364, trailed by Vietnam and the Philippines, while the number of women from Cambodia jumped from one to 851, and the number from Nepal has surged 158 times in the same period.

I think this is just more or less a natural result from more Korean women going abroad to work and study and interacting more with foreigners.  Regardless I can’t wait to read what commenter Tom has to say about this.

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  • Cloying_odor
    10:42 am on May 5th, 2010 1

    That article doesn't give us stats on Korean women……

    "the number of Korean men who married women from outside the country"

    Why did they even plop that statistical turd down in the middle of the article. It even fooled you GI… you assumed they were citing stats on Korean Women but in fact they have none. They site a 'trend' and then provide no data to back it up. Crap journalism. Suprised it wasn't the Chosun Ilbo.

  • Tom
    10:54 am on May 5th, 2010 2

    If it was the other way around and the article says Western women are dying to meet and marry handsome Korean men, he'd be all over the article, going through the figures, slicing and dicing the numbers, and quoting and requoting other articles to disprove the article as untrue and false Korean media. :lol:

    But since it's the other way around, what it says in the Korean media, it must be really true, no argument there. :roll:

    GI wants to believe what he wants to read.

  • Typo
    10:58 am on May 5th, 2010 3

    If you can't figure it out yet Tom, your attempt to persuade readers into believing Korea is somehow better than the U.S. is having the opposite results. You only bring more readers to this blog and no body really listens to your arguements.

  • Tom
    11:13 am on May 5th, 2010 4

    Again, show me the numbers Typo. I can see all the expat bloggers jumping up and down like monkies going bonkers and howling with pride and joy over this news because it validates Western man's inherent insecurity complex that wants to prove they are superior to the local men. :lol:

    But seriously, show me the numbers that says millions of Korean women are moving over to the west to get married to the blonde hunks. And no, prostitutes don't count. :lol:

  • gerry
    12:30 pm on May 5th, 2010 5

    "Blonde hunks". Tom, I think your jealose.

  • Tom
    12:38 pm on May 5th, 2010 6

    I'm so jealous of this. :roll:

    http://imgnews.naver.com/image/022/2010/04/15/201

  • Dr.Yu
    12:38 pm on May 5th, 2010 7

    The majority or Korean women prefer Koreans for marriage, but I have seen some who dream about a foreign husband.

    I think they have this fantasy that foreigners are more gentle and nicer than Korean males (and most of them end up finding this kind of foreign man) but the funny is that I heard the same argument from Brazilian girls that marry Korean man in Brazil. Yes, they say that they prefer Koreans because Brazilian men are chauvinist, and you know, Brazilians are Latinos too which means only sex and zero responsibility (obviously I don’t mean all Brazilian men are like this)

    Another reason why some Korean women prefer foreigners is because they don’t want to follow the passive role that Korean Confucian society imposes on them, so they end up marrying a man from a different cultural background, but most of Korean women have no problem following Confucian tradition so they marry Koreans, so I think it’s all a matter of perspective.

    Anyway, all I can say about it is that whether marrying a Korean or foreign husband, they all deserve happiness with the man they chose to live their lives.

  • Dr.Yu
    12:50 pm on May 5th, 2010 8

    You are right Tom.

    If westerners are the perfection of manhood on earth, why most Korean living in western countries end up marrying only Koreans?

    Korea is becoming more international so it is a natural trend, and the Korean paper is just stating this fact.

  • Typo
    12:54 pm on May 5th, 2010 9

    I agree with you, good perspective Dr. Yu. You far outshine Tom with your views…

  • Tom
    1:01 pm on May 5th, 2010 10

    Hey, I'm just toying with you guys.. :lol:

    You needn't get so offended.lol..

  • Typo
    1:07 pm on May 5th, 2010 11

    I don't think anyone is getting offended by your posts dude, I think you are a man without a culture and are about two seconds from going postal. I feel sorry for you guy…

  • Teadrinker
    1:21 pm on May 5th, 2010 12

    You're begging for someone to point out that handsome Korean men are few and far in between (whereas pretty Korean women are a dime a dozen). ;-)

  • Teadrinker
    1:22 pm on May 5th, 2010 13

    Whoring yourself for attention? ;-)

  • Nathan
    1:22 pm on May 5th, 2010 14

    Family pressure obviously :)

  • JoeC
    1:23 pm on May 5th, 2010 15

    Am I missing something? I sounds to me, from the women's comments, they are not expressing a racial preference, but a cultural attitude preference.

  • Teadrinker
    1:24 pm on May 5th, 2010 16

    "that says millions of Korean women are moving over to the west to get married"

    Well, I don't know about millions, but they used to in the early to mid 80's…but that's when Korea was still a Third World country ruled by a military dictatorship.

  • Nathan
    1:25 pm on May 5th, 2010 17

    Nicely written, Dr Yu, and very true on that last point

  • John
    1:48 pm on May 5th, 2010 18

    Tom's pretty famous in the Philippines. The gals even have a special term of endearment for him…they call him "triple three"….

  • guitard
    1:58 pm on May 5th, 2010 19

    John

    May 5th, 2010 at 8:48pm

    Tom’s pretty famous in the Philippines. The gals even have a special term of endearment for him…they call him “triple three”….

    Alright…I'll bite.

    Why do the women in the Philippines call Tom "triple three?"

  • Retired GI
    2:27 pm on May 5th, 2010 20

    "few Korean women" You want numbers? Go to Texas. :grin:

  • JohnT
    3:23 pm on May 5th, 2010 21

    I, for the life of me don't get why a lot of foreign guys are so ga-ga over Korean women. Korean men can keep them!

    You'll hear some Koreans go on about how fat Western women are and what not. That just proves how disgustingly superficial they are.

    Why don't YOU show US some numbers Tom? You obviously know right?

    In 2004,I read that most foreign male/Korean female marriages don't end up in divorce. I believe the source was a Korean one, so of course one should take it with a grain of salt.

    Unlike Tom, I don't know the numbers.

    My senior didn't tell me, so I don't know.

    Guess what Tom, it ain't just "white" dudes that go for Korean women.

  • Thomas
    3:33 pm on May 5th, 2010 22

    A lot of my Korean friends are telling me these days how they wouldn't mind their daughters marrying a foreigner. You never would have heard that even just ten years ago.

  • someotherguy
    3:55 pm on May 5th, 2010 23

    Most of those countries listed in the second comment are places where you "buy a wife" or otherwise go wife hunting when you can't get on locally. China / Vietnam / Philippines, only China isn't poor and I'm willing to bet the women involved are from the rural poor regions.

    Korea will change in 30 or so years when the old farts who lead the country die off and a younger generation takes control. It'll probably take two or more generations before the "pregnant / barefooted in the kitchen" mindset leaves this country for good. Its what they get for having a Confucian society.

  • someotherguy
    4:02 pm on May 5th, 2010 24

    Bingo, you hit the nail on the head. The world is changing, women in Korea have access to internet, higher education, and careers. They can interact and see the world, meet people's from other countries and see how things are done. Because of this many desire a life more meaningful then raising their husbands kids (cause the husband is out drinking with coworkers all night) and taking care of the husbands mother (who always yells at the daughter for not being good enough for her perfect son).

    The quickest way out of that social nightmare is to find someone not bound by the same social rules. How many British / American / Canadian / German mothers yell and scream at their daughter in-law for not making the rice a certain way. Or not folding the perfect son's clothes just right before work.

    What I'm saying isn't something I've invented, its stuff that has been told to my both by my various Korean GF's, and from my Korean buddies. I've asked many of the buddies how they see / treat Korean women … and the answers are astounding….

  • John
    4:58 pm on May 5th, 2010 25

    Triple three = 3 inches, 3 minutes, 3 thousand pesos

    I'm not making that up, it is what the bargirls I met in the Philippines call their Korean customers…

  • Typo
    5:38 pm on May 5th, 2010 26

    I think the second set of quotes are Korean Men who marry outside Korea, you refered to the number of Women who marry outside Korea. I don’t think all Korean men are the same but a huge majority are not liked by any race of Women.

  • Tom
    5:51 pm on May 5th, 2010 27

    :lol:

    Everyone wants my opinions in here these days… :lol:

    I’m so flattered.. :lol:

    OK GI, I won’t disappoint you.

    Where are the numbers?

  • Tom
    6:03 pm on May 5th, 2010 28

    I’m glad I’m improving the readership of this blog. :lol:

    I should get paid for this. :lol:

    Most mixed marriages end up in divorce.

    Hey, I can’t help it if the US is poor, bankrupt, and owe the world tens of trillions of dollars. Those few Korean women who thought they were upgrading themselves will soon find out they made a big economic mistake :lol:

  • Typo
    6:07 pm on May 5th, 2010 29

    If that is your arguement it just goes to show that Korean Women will do anything but marry a Korean man. Maybe Korean Women just want a real man and not someone who is shorter and weaker than they are.

  • Maj. America
    6:24 pm on May 5th, 2010 30

    I tend agree this article is totally wrong mostly because they just dont show any data. I also tend to believe that most Korean women would never marry foreign guys. The reason and pressure for that are plenty societal, language, family, cultural, class.

    So when foreign guys go to Korea we are definitely working with a reduced pool of Korean woman that is pretty small when you think about it. First, you got the Korean girls that would date foreign guys but never bring them home, and even some that wont bring their foreign boyfriend into their social circle. Then you got to remember the vast majority of Korean girls(people in general) dont speak a foreign language. Also, the more affluent background the girl comes from the less likely she would marry a foreign guy those type seem more open minded and worldly but those are the ones under grasp of their family. Finally, all you foreign guys with Korean girls wont like this one but the more attractive the girl is the less like she would date let alone marry a foreign guy. That is just options thing I am sure there are exception to this but I would bet this generally the rule. Finally I think this article is talking about a minute(the exceptions) amount of Korean women and doest not reflect any serious trends. Of course this all from empirical evidence much the same way that article was written.

  • Annonymous
    6:46 pm on May 5th, 2010 31

    I admit that I am the archtypical blond, white, virile male who can't walk out of my apartment without being attacked by desparate Korean ladies looking for the romance that short, out-of-shape, chain smoking Korean dudes can't give them. Mostly I date young Korean super model types who's only dream is to marry a western guy. Not sure if this revelation helps support the supposed trend, but I live this every day!

  • Tbonetylr
    6:50 pm on May 5th, 2010 32

    Tom, you got it wrong(as usual). Korean women that marry westerners aren’t doing it for the $$$, so an “ecomomic mistake” isn’t part of their realm.

  • Maj. America
    7:00 pm on May 5th, 2010 33

    I call bullshit!

  • Chris in South Korea
    7:10 pm on May 5th, 2010 34

    Nthing the desire to see stats, not 'trends'.

    Eight possible reasons for why Korean girls prefer Western (or at least non-Koreans):

    http://chrisinsouthkorea.blogspot.com/2009/07/eig

    I don't think Korean guys have it *easy*, especially if you look at the lives they're expected to lead – work hard, drink hard, be a dad, and stay alive to worship your ancestors. That life / lifestyle won't change until enough of them opt out – just like the women are supposedly doing.

  • AsiaSuperLoop
    7:16 pm on May 5th, 2010 35

    Reproduction is about survival. So it turns on strength, money, conviction, ideas and organization. On any of these metrics, Asia is in the lead and increasingly "decoupling," in terms of absolute correlation with the US and Europe. Asia is finding its own ground, and this is no different from America finding its own ground during the 19th century.

    The future, and I mean just 20 or so years from now, won't look like today. If any of us wish to be present and thriving at that time, whether personally or through our patrimony, it's necessary to have ideas. That's true of Asians, Europeans, Africans…Micronesians, the Inuit, etc.

    Some of the most important ideas from the point of view of advancing procreation are "cultural" ideas, or "pop cultural" ideas to be more specific. A strong pop culture evidences economic strength, because it shows that a group of people have prospered sufficiently to have the time and resources to concern themselves with becoming happier, more satisfied and, in general, more entertained.

    Korean pop culture is taking over Asia rapidly and gaining popularity in the US and Europe. Korean pop culture is "inclusive," unlike earlier efforts by the Japanese. Korean entertainment is superior as quasi-literature, because it has borrowed from the best of the West, particularly the sad tales that come out of Russia. Korean entertainment is "poly-cultural". Because Korean has been colonized, brutalized and shamed over the course of hundreds of years, Koreans have no "imperialist" intent in disseminating Korean media and programming in Asia and around the world.

    Inter-cultural or inter-racial marriages will no doubt continue. If things go well, they should increase in number. But these ridiculous stereotypes of Korean men or Korean women aren't helpful to either dialog or happy relationships. Making important life decisions based on some two inch deep caricature of what an entire group of people might be like is absurd.

    The idea that the writer of this blog post had was the idea of fraud. To present a hypothesis then to support it with data that is backwards or irrelevant is not truthful. (Was the post really about why Korean women were marrying Vietnamese, Filipinos and Chinese?)

    Fraud is always a bad idea. Get another one.

  • Sonagi
    7:30 pm on May 5th, 2010 36

    Korean men are now embracing plastic surgery, so they're catching up fast. :grin:

  • archieb
    9:28 pm on May 5th, 2010 37

    But the Korean men who have plastic surgery are usually interested in other Korean men.

  • tellos
    9:51 pm on May 5th, 2010 38

    Yep don't think all Korean man love to go out get hammered with their Co worker.

    My brother is law is not at all like the Korean guy who has an easy life. Working hard (sending your kids to academies isn't cheap), helping with education and cleaning.

  • AskKorean1
    10:14 pm on May 5th, 2010 39

    Korea isn't Japan. This news article is total bullshit. Koreans that marry Non-Koreans are mostly Koreans from Cholla-Namdo Region (Country Side) or ( Overseas Chinese) living in Korea.

  • Chris In Dallas
    10:28 pm on May 5th, 2010 40

    Seeing such articles saddens me. I love Korean women and it takes Korean men to make them!

  • Reddog245
    11:45 pm on May 5th, 2010 41

    Wait, women aren't supposed to be coy and kind? And it’s not better if she is younger, pretty and knows how to cook? Who changed THESE rules?!?

  • Retired GI
    12:12 am on May 6th, 2010 42

    You have never seen Killeen Texas.

    Nor do you know the wives of nearly Half my retired military associates. "where are you from?" "Seoul".

    Never met an associate with a "Japanese" wife. Might be some with the Marines or Navy.

    The Japanese women seem to be more physically attractive than the Koreans. IMHO

  • guitard
    12:25 am on May 6th, 2010 43

    There are lots of Japanese women around US Army bases in the States. You don't notice them very easily because they blend in with the Koreans. But they're there.

  • Retired GI
    12:42 am on May 6th, 2010 44

    Don't PANIC! No one changed the rules.

    Everyone knows that younger women are better than the older ones.

    Younger women "tend" to be prettier than the older ones. Not always!

    Knowing how to cook is a good "skill" to have. For men too. Anyone who views cooking skills as unimportant is likely a sexist female.

    I tend to like people that are "kind" to others. A "good" quality to have.

    Coy is just entertaining! It is like non physical foreplay. :grin: It allows men to believe they are "in charge" of the situation. But only really sharp woman can pull it off. (often leads to men doing stuff they regret later)

    Always wonder why women want to give up their power so they can come down to my level and be "equal". But then again, some just couldn't master cooking. ;-)

  • Tom
    2:21 am on May 6th, 2010 45

    and 3, as in 30,000 Korean-Filipina mixed babies running around in Philippines! :lol:

  • Tom
    2:22 am on May 6th, 2010 46

    Asiaphile.. :lol:

  • Tom
    2:23 am on May 6th, 2010 47

    You don't get it because you're a homo, that's why. :lol:

    You don't get it because all you can afford is your right hand. :lol:

  • Retired GI
    4:07 am on May 6th, 2010 48

    :grin:

  • Retired GI
    4:12 am on May 6th, 2010 49

    Go Asia!! :grin: Pop culture will insure your Number One. ;-)

  • Retired GI
    4:23 am on May 6th, 2010 50

    Seen some in their 20's. FINE! Oh wait, they were Chinese-Filipinas.

    Wonder if Korean genes will do as well.

  • Chris In Dallas
    4:59 am on May 6th, 2010 51

    I've never seen them. Neither has my wife.

  • Bones
    9:11 am on May 6th, 2010 52

    Sorry Mr. America I disagree with some of your post.

    Today's Korean woman could careless what society thinks, like any woman anywhere, if she wants

    to marry you, it will happen.

    As for affluent background, that applies to Korean men also, unless both foreigner and Korean are equal to or higher than she is….all the rules go out the door.

    As for how attractive she is, I've seen women from 1 to 10 married to guys who are 1 to 10…to include foreigners. If you as foreigner tickle her fancy, she will date you, party with with and even marry you.

  • HanaBMF
    9:36 am on May 6th, 2010 53

    I know why my Korean born, American educated wife likes about me. And that's all that matters..

  • someotherguy
    10:02 am on May 6th, 2010 54

    I've seen examples that contradict every single thing you wrote. This isn't the 80's or the 90's anymore, women these days have options and their not afraid to tell people to take a hike.

    Hell a few years back a good buddy of mine ended up marrying his girl and got the surprise of his life. It wasn't till they were planning the wedding when he found out her father (who he thought was a business man) was actually one of the under secretary's to president Roh. They had everything taken care of for them, but there is more to that story for a different day.

    Honestly marrying a foreigner isn't as taboo as it used to be, its just a different Korea these days.

  • someotherguy
    10:14 am on May 6th, 2010 55

    And I hear Kimchi is supposed to prevent swine flue and cure all sorts of diseases. Gotta love that kimchi-cheer-leading.

    Seriously though I'd suggest you read up on what Confucianism is, specifically the core tenets and the lists of things "your supposed to do" to be a good member of society.

    In short, guys are supposed to have kids, respect their parents, honor their parents and go be guys. Girls are expected to honor their husbands, be faithful to their husbands, worship their husbands and their husbands family, obey their family until they get married, then obey their husbands family, bear many children for their husbands, raise those children for their husbands, and so on. In a Confucian society women are second class citizens who's social role is to serve the older males, and be happy doing it (or else).

    The only society more male dominated / Confucian then Korea is China, and unfortunately for the older men Korea is an open democracy. Women are leaving the country, visiting other country's, getting an education, and learning that they ~REALLY~ do not desire to be forced into the expected social role of serving their husband and his parents. And this btw isn't coming from me (although I had my own suspicions) its coming from my GF. Ask any younger Korean gal that your close friend with about how k-guys are as bf vs husband… its like night vs day.

  • Sonagi
    10:56 am on May 6th, 2010 56

    Wrong. Plastic surgery was starting to catch on among professors at the university where I used to work, and I know at least one of them was heterosezual because he hit on all the single foreign female teachers under 35 years old and under 130 pounds, including one with a ROK Army Ranger boyfriend. Bad move.

  • guitard
    11:08 am on May 6th, 2010 57

    You must be referring to Miss 오.

    Full name: Miss 오른손

  • kushibo
    11:23 am on May 6th, 2010 58

    So you go chat up bargirls in the Philippines and talk about Korean penises?

    Whatever floats your boat. Sure they weren't exaggerating just so you wouldn't feel bad about your own self?

    "Oh, don't you worry 'bout that. You still better than triple-three Korean man."

  • guitard
    11:26 am on May 6th, 2010 59

    AsiaSuperLoop

    2:16am on May 6th, 2010

    Korean pop culture is taking over Asia rapidly and gaining popularity in the US and Europe.

    Whoa!! You've been drinking way too much of the kool-aid.

    But just for the sake of entertainment – please tell us the countries in Asia where Korean pop culture "is taking over."

    And please add some detail to the part about how Korean pop culture gaining popularity in the US and Europe. Give us some examples.

    I suppose since Korean pop culture has gone from being completely unknown to now being where you might be able to find one non-Korean American out of every 100 people in the US who might be able to name one member of the Korean pop culture world. So technically speaking, that would constitute "a gain in popularity."

  • kushibo
    11:42 am on May 6th, 2010 60

    Dr.Yu wrote:

    If westerners are the perfection of manhood on earth, why most Korean living in western countries end up marrying only Koreans?

    Actually, about a third of Korean-Americans marry non-Koreans [see here]. Both KA men and women.

  • kushibo
    11:45 am on May 6th, 2010 61

    Here in Hawaii, Korean pop culture — particularly movies and television programs — are HUGE. Huge!

    It's certainly less so on the Mainland, but more and more Korean movies are becoming household names, starting with "Oldboy." That recent movie "Mother" was all over the media when it was released in the States.

    Still, there's a long way to go, and I doubt Korean movies would ever become in the US the juggernaut that American movies are in Korea or elsewhere.

  • John
    3:48 pm on May 6th, 2010 62

    Don't worry Kushibo, no one there mentioned you by name!

    But yeah, I do enjoy chatting with the hardworking gals who work the bar scene. I heard the "triple 3" comment more than once, so I asked one of the girls I knew quite well if it was true. She laughed and laughed and then finally said "no, it is not true…Koreans are lousy tippers". So, I guess they are dulgae 3's, but that doesn't have the same ring to it…

  • Dr.Yu
    3:53 pm on May 6th, 2010 63

    Well Kushibo,

    Here in Brazil it’s a different reality because Koreans look down to Brazilians, so almost 99% still marry Korean men/women.

    I think in the USA Koreans have this inferiority complex toward the Americans so they think it is a big deal marrying them …

  • JoeC
    4:01 pm on May 6th, 2010 64

    Hawaii and Guam are Asian microcosms. I don't think they can be held up as representative of mainstream America.

  • John
    4:06 pm on May 6th, 2010 65

    (btw, I was being a smartass in response to Tom when I made the original comment about T-3s, I did mean any offense to Korean manhood.)

  • kushibo
    4:44 pm on May 6th, 2010 66

    Yes, I'm aware of that, hence the qualifications above. But you can see things taking root. Korean pop culture was an entire theme on "The O.C.," I believe. :)

  • kushibo
    4:52 pm on May 6th, 2010 67

    First off, I'd like to see that the statistics actually do support your contention. However, if they do, I think your theory sounds intriguing.

    Still, the comforts and convenience of cultural or racial endogamy may be a better explanation than racist viewpoints. According to THESE STATISTICS, some 98% of Whites in America marry Whites, so it's not as if such low outmarriage rates are abnormal.

    Anyway, we should be careful, Dr. Yu, lest we get booted from ROK Drop for having a substantive discussion. ;)

  • kushibo
    4:58 pm on May 6th, 2010 68

    John wrote:

    Don’t worry Kushibo, no one there mentioned you by name!

    Touché. :D

  • Teadrinker
    7:54 pm on May 6th, 2010 69

    Actually, salty food causes stomach cancer.

  • Teadrinker
    7:57 pm on May 6th, 2010 70

    Same here (although my wife got her degrees in Korea).

  • Teadrinker
    8:06 pm on May 6th, 2010 71

    Oldboy came out nearly a decade ago.

    In reality, Korean pop culture hasn't gained as much ground anywhere as the Korean media likes to prentend…but South Korean authors and artists, most of whom aren't household names in South Korea, have always received a great deal of attention in more intellectual circles abroad.

  • Maj. America
    9:05 pm on May 6th, 2010 72

    Like I said it toally just from experience, and obviously we had different experiences. There are exceptions to the rule dont get my wrong shoot my wife and I are an exception to the rule. I am seven from middle class family and she is 13 from well connected Busan political family.haha My whole point is that a very small amount of Korean women would be open/able to dating foreigners and even smaller amount would marry them. And I feel pretty strongly about that, and until somebody offers me some concrete data that contradicts that I am going to go on believe I am right. Somebody else emperical data carries little weight with my as mine probbaly does w/you.

  • Hans Brinker
    11:46 pm on May 6th, 2010 73

    I don’t think they can be held up as representative of mainstream America.

    I beg to differ — Hawaiians and other Pacific Islanders from Guam, and other American territories regardless of race, color, creed or religion are Americans and hence, part of America's great diversity of people from all over the world. What is "mainstream America" anyways? If you are anything less than a 100% pure-blood Native American, you are a descendant of an immigrant. That said, whites will be a minority in America by 2020, so you better change your attitude of what and who defines "mainstream" America, b/c as a Caucasian, you are on the downside of the trend.

  • nb
    11:46 pm on May 6th, 2010 74

    I dated a woman who is in her mid-20s now. When younger, the parents and grandparents would sneak extra meat and food to the son. They younger generations will take over, but they will still, for the most part (and ESPECIALLY the men) will have that old retarded men are superior to women, and they are sooooo special because "I am the oldest son." I like the first comment that no race of women likes a majority of Korean men.

  • Retired GI
    12:23 am on May 7th, 2010 75

    Sounds GREAT! Whites will be able to get wellfare for life and all the other give aways that, what the government calls Minorities now get.

    Blacks and yellows can help the Majority (Browns) run America. Sounds like fun. Whites can sit by the side and collect the Government checks that the (B.Y.B.)s pay for.

    Should be great fun :grin: Keep having babies! GOOD LUCK ;-)

  • Hans Brinker
    12:36 am on May 7th, 2010 76

    Sounds like you're already collecting a government check so pipe down you lil' hypocrite. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, so relax. And incidentally, it's gonna be some lil' brown or yellow tax-paying American who is going to guarantee your social security payments into perpetuity. There just aren't enough whites to pay FICA taxes without the help of non-whites, so let's be a little more generous and thankful toward your American friends of color. We're all on the same team, don't ya know?

  • Maj. America
    12:37 am on May 7th, 2010 77

    I hope you were trying to sounds like an ass! If you were job well done!

  • Retired GI
    12:46 am on May 7th, 2010 78

    Wasn't that war of the sexes fought and won by women in the 1960s? I'm sure it was!

    But that was in America. Most women don't believe it. "But I'm a woman" was often heard during physically demanding activites in the Army.

    No such thing as "equal". Women are smarter. Men are stronger. That's why women marry men. Takes both of them.

    Women know what needs to be done and they get men to do it. :grin:

    (that is why men need the extra meat)

    Still waiting to meet the woman that can transport a man 100 yards using any carry method. :|

    Even the PC Military believes men in general can run faster and have greater strength.

    But judging you from your statement, none of this will mean anything to you.

  • Chris In Dallas
    12:47 am on May 7th, 2010 79

    "I also tend to believe that most Korean women would never marry foreign guys. The reason and pressure for that are plenty societal, language, family, cultural, class."

    I'm kind of curious about how this works for the American marrying a Korean. Did your friends and family have problems with you marrying a Korean? Most of my family and some of my friends did.

  • Retired GI
    12:49 am on May 7th, 2010 80

    Why YES! I was. Thank you :lol:

  • Retired GI
    1:34 am on May 7th, 2010 81

    Hans, Buddy, I served 20 years to EARN that check. It wasn't FREE, and it isn't large. Feel free to enlist and serve 20 yourself.

    As for the "let's be a little more generous and thankful" comment. When those "friends of color" start, I will be happy to follow their example. Still waiting, and watching the Mexican flag displayed in American schools, while Americans wearing shirts with the American flag are told they can not wear them on May 5th in American schools.

    By a Brown Principle that is oh so thankful.

    To be serious for a moment: What I know of others was learned first hand in those 20 years. If you feel I have negative feelings, there just might be good reasons for it.

    You want my respect then go earn it. You want to take over? That's fine my me! I hope you do a good job.

    Generous? Only those with their hand out need me to be generous.

    Thankful? For what? For the Chit that I had to put up with? For the Political Correctness that America has to put up with. For "minorities" screaming "Racist" each time they don't get what they want or someone disagrees with them. For attempting to secure the border and do the Feds job.

    Now to be fair. I have had friends from all races. But they were people like me. Did their jobs and partied at night. Right place, right time, right uniform, right action.

    Sadly, they are outnumbered by the screamers and criers and race baiters.

    Oh, by the way: "what's good for the goose is good for the gander" is about sex. You know, male vs female. Nothing to do with race relations.

    Also, you left out black tax-payer. "it's going to be some lil'brown or yellow tax-paying American who is going to guarantee your-".

    What are (you) trying to say?

  • Tom
    2:24 am on May 7th, 2010 82

    I notice that more and more white girls are attracted to Korean guys from Korea. :grin:

    I guess they're sick of being treated like sex objects to be used.

  • kushibo
    3:05 am on May 7th, 2010 83

    Actually, the jury's out on what exactly is going on there. It could be salt or it could be spicy food, but what actually might be going on is a combination of salt or spicy and Helicobacter pylori bacteria in the stomach, or possibly even NO3 from the preservation process common in Korea (and Japan). [see HERE and HERE]

    So kimchi might be the right thing to do, if you don't have H pylori infection.

  • kushibo
    3:12 am on May 7th, 2010 84

    In reality, Korean pop culture hasn’t gained as much ground anywhere as the Korean media likes to prentend

    In regards to East Asia, I believe your statement is wrong. Korean pop music, movies, and often TV programs have become a mainstay in many media markets throughout East Asia.

  • kushibo
    3:26 am on May 7th, 2010 85

    Sounds GREAT! Whites will be able to get wellfare for life and all the other give aways that, what the government calls Minorities now get.

    Why wait? Whites are already (and have long been) the largest group of Welfare recipients. Not by rate, but just by sheer numbers [see HERE].

    Also, Retired GI, note that there's only one L in welfare. The government decided two was too many, so they cut the second one.

  • kushibo
    3:28 am on May 7th, 2010 86

    What kind of problems?

  • Maj. America
    3:30 am on May 7th, 2010 87

    I am from Los Angeles with a huge asian populations so most of my friends were totally cool with it. My parents have interracial marriage to begin with my father being black and my mother being white, so they were very supportive. They probably wanted to shield me from the crap they went through as an interacial couple in the south in the 70's.

  • Random Guy
    4:01 am on May 7th, 2010 88

    Korean girls don't prefer white guys in Korea and parts of the world where Korean society exists(US, Canada, UK)

    you know that.

    Foreigners are shut down left and right in gangnam, hongdae(except for places like tinpan and FF) by the girls.

    your excuses are "they're too shy" "i know they want to fawk me but they won't let their friends see it" "I know they're into me" "I know they don't want Korean men" "if they know a bit of english foreign culture they'll convert"

    COMPLETE BS.

    Instead you have Koreans(specially) who'd actually attends foreign universities in the US, UK, Canada who spent YEARS that are talking shit about how ESL taechers in korea are losers.

    i live in california and more than 95% of the koreans date each other. this is the same in toronto, Chicago, NY, NJ, Dallas, SF and all the big cities.

    yeah you guys are limited to self proclaimed models who are only about 5 5" tall with heavy make ups who only spent less than two years at some random language institute claiming that they are "yu hak seng" and who claims that they had "oh i had a foreign boyfriend back abroad" to back you up.

    They're wayyyyyyyyy more assimilated in Japan, China where they have to hide their identity in order to fit in to the society.

    You guys just like to think that Korean women don't want Korean men according to theories that are made up in your heads. likely you guys are only seeking out for that evidence without looking at the reality.

    In Korea, it's the few who wants English practices because besides learning English they have nothing else to show in their resumes, or ones who wonders around Itaewon after getting shut down by every single Korean men.The reality is, the super hot, classy, educated Korean women wouldn't even be around foreigners looking for husbands in bars.(right… they go on koreancupid.com)

    ironically a lot of ESLosers in Korea are meeting women through online penpal sites, language exchange meetings and etc.

    The reason for Koreans to only stick with Koreans in the states, North America, other places is their "illusion" of western society is SHATTERED and they realize that they're better off with someone who they can communicate and connect culturally.

    and their fantasy was about guys like bradd pitt, johnny depp and reality isn't like that.

    yeah they daydream about having sex with random GI or ESLosers they meet in bars that they never goto in itaewon. lol

    What some of you claim is like saying foreigners would step off the plane and when they try kimchi and never eat any other food again.

    basically you guys create theoretical, hypothetical stereotypes favorable to you behind your computers and brain wash your selves which is really sad.

    get some REAL girlfriends if you ever have the chance.

    im a guy but most of the korean females living abroad feels the same way.

    Yeah korean girls only like foreingers and because of that there are 100s of thousands of koreans who cheers for korean soccer team and baseball teams competing in international competitions AROUND THE WORLD.

  • Random Guy
    4:06 am on May 7th, 2010 89

    to add to comment above(#23)

    yu hak sengs frequently goes back to Korea to meet friends family and PARTY and they're the ones who spreads the word.

    they aren't necessarily hostile towards you but they'd tell the TRUTH

  • Tom
    4:19 am on May 7th, 2010 90

    Amen and well said.

    I knew this one girl who thought every guy in America looked like models on TV before she went over to America. So I asked her, so did you find a good looking hunk when you were over there? Her answer was: "I couldn't even see one good looking guy, most of them looked like slobs". :lol: True story.

  • ChickenHead
    4:43 am on May 7th, 2010 91

    This whole thing is painful to look at.

    After reading all that has been written, I can say most of you are so narrow in your view that you can be classed as wrong in appraising the situation.

    Maybe I'll post on it in a day or two.

    Time for bed.

  • Tom
    5:21 am on May 7th, 2010 92

    Korean guy with good looking white girl. If you read the comments, it wasn't long before the jealous white guys come along and make their usual snotty comments about small d*cks and such. And white guys in Korea complain daily about being c*ck blocked. :roll:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84H7X5KSfIA&fe

    But at least one slut*y white gal in this video disputes it and says otherwise :lol:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shfpBfXe_Fc&fe

  • Maj. America
    5:25 am on May 7th, 2010 93

    I tend to toally agree with randomguy. Of course their are exceptions but for the most part its true. the vast majority of KOrean girls wouldnt even date a foreign dude let alone marry one. The funny thing is that is pretty much common sense and is applicable to any country. People marry people from their same country. PERIOD…….

  • Avatar of BillBill
    5:43 am on May 7th, 2010 94

    I'm getting into this late but I swear I saw some stats a few years back that said Korean American females were the most likely Asian American female to have a white husband.

  • kushibo
    6:12 am on May 7th, 2010 95

    I thought I saw some stats like that, too, Bill, which I alluded to up above when I wrote that about one-third of Korean-Americans (men and women) marry non-Koreans. KAs and JAs both have high rates of "out-marriage."

  • kushibo
    6:28 am on May 7th, 2010 96

    Tom, I really liked the first one. It was sweet.

    I could have done without the second one, though. Any guy bragging about his tool is a tool.

    It's too bad that people have to get into that alleged penis size thing. In fact, à la Godwin's Law, anybody who brings up the penis size of other races should be deemed to have lost the argument (unless the argument is solely about average racial penis size): argumentum ad mentalatum.

  • Chris In Dallas
    8:43 am on May 7th, 2010 97

    Oh, lots of family and friends trying to talk me out of marrying my wife. I saw it coming because they were also put off when I started dating Korean girls. Most coped with it but there were some who quit talking to me.

  • kushibo
    8:50 am on May 7th, 2010 98

    I applaud your honesty. Frankly, I get annoyed constantly hearing about how racist Koreans are, based on families' reaction their daughter's dating choices, when there is this other side of the coin few people address but which is often as bad or of nearly the same caliber.

    I know it happens both ways, though amongst my friends and family there has been little of this, whether it's Asians or Whites doing the rejecting.

  • Retired GI
    10:59 am on May 7th, 2010 99

    Thanks for the spelling lession. I depend on you to "watch by six".

  • Retired GI
    11:09 am on May 7th, 2010 100

    I'll wait! Really, I will. Because I know it will be interesting.

  • Chris In Dallas
    12:34 pm on May 7th, 2010 101

    HAHAHAHA!! Every time I see some Asian guy whine about Asian female/American male relationships it reminds me of my redneck buddies back home pitching fits over white girls with black guys. If it really isn't happening and/or only the lowliest Korean girls consider having relationships with us, why do rant about it so much?

  • Retired GI
    1:31 pm on May 7th, 2010 102

    I have a few YEARS of experience that say your off target. Therefore no "PERIOD" for you.

    Not bragging, but I've been out with just few Korean women in my nine years in Korea. So your sense is not so common.

    People marry people from their own country—IF, they have no means of travel outside their country.

    I can take you to a few places where Korean/American is much the Norm.

    Now, if you're poor and have no option, then your correct. Got to marry the guy or girl next door. :grin:

  • Retired GI
    1:34 pm on May 7th, 2010 103

    Snotty comments? Yea, I NEVER heard that from Korean guys when I was out with my girl. :grin:

  • Leon LaPorte
    3:20 pm on May 7th, 2010 104

    Having been married to a Korean woman, I'm getting a kick out of these replies…

    /glad I stayed out of this thread

    //yep, I ruined her :razz:

  • Random Guy
    6:48 pm on May 7th, 2010 105

    @Kushibo

    Ok lets get this straight. Koreans of 1st generation overseas will marry koreans more than 95% of the time. specially areas with highly concentrated korean population

    and so are 2nd generation Korean Americans in metropolitan areas that i mentioned on comment #23. Though for Korean Americans, the % of the ones marries non-Koreans are much higher(around 20%+) but still you still have more than 70% of korean americans marrying each other and more than 95% of 1st gen koreans marrying each other.

    I'm being real.

    Now to retired GI im not denying that there are no interracial relationships in Korea. But GIs have long history of being portrayed negatively in the view of Korean media. You and I both know that the ones who are likely to be GIs (although it can be a bit of stereotype) aren't the typical average Korean women with Korean traditions and culture in them.

    Wouldn't you agree?

  • Random Guy
    6:54 pm on May 7th, 2010 106

    What I would say is, Japanese-Koreans(Zainichi Koreans which means Japanese of Korean ancestor) Are MUCH MUCH more likely to be assimilated due to the discrimination in Japan towards Koreans and China)

    In nations like US, cultural route is viewed as your identity so it's actually encouraged. Thus Koreans in countries like US, Canada, UK, Europe sticks to each other because cultural identity is encouraged.

    Although I suppose Koreans living in areas with "smaller" Korean pool to choose from would mix a lot more naturally.

    PERIOD.

    I think it's well ENUFF said.

    would you agree?

  • Random Guy
    6:57 pm on May 7th, 2010 107

    That's like saying "if you try this food that you've never had you'll fall in love with it for the rest of your life"

    Just because Koreans go visit nations outside of Korea doesn't mean they'll be westernized and be all over westerners.

    That NEVER happens.

  • kushibo
    7:01 pm on May 7th, 2010 108

    Let's say that 95% is correct. That 5 percent "out-marriage" rate is still two or three than Whites have in the US.

    Of course, that's a bit of an apples-and-oranges comparison because, say, a Korean-American marrying a Japanese-American (a common match) is counted as "out-marriage," while, say, an Italian-American marrying an Irish-American is not counted as such because both are counted as "White."

    However, that apples-and-oranges comparison may still be valid because ethnic/racial identity of the type Korean-Americans may see themselves, especially for first- or 1.5-generation immigrants, is more on par with the way Whites may see themselves as a group. Such a notion is certainly reflected in the Census, where "White" and "Black" are one category while Asian-Americans have multiple categories.

  • kushibo
    7:06 pm on May 7th, 2010 109

    You and I both know that the ones who are likely to be GIs (although it can be a bit of stereotype) aren’t the typical average Korean women with Korean traditions and culture in them.

    Did you mean "be with GIs"?

    Anyway, this just reminded me of something that bears repeating: someone who marries outside their racial/ethnic group (though not necessarily someone who merely dates but does not marry outside their racial/ethnic group) is typically a bit of an outlier: That is, they may not be typical of their ethnic/racial group overall, and them marrying outside of it is often a sign of that. That certainly skews things when drawing conclusions about their group as a whole.

    (I don't mean the outlier comment in a positive or negative way; outliers can often be the instigators of positive change, while other times they might just be weird and on the fringe for a reason.)

  • 輝夜姬
    8:36 pm on May 7th, 2010 110

    ㅋㅋㅋㅋ The 1st woman. I could easily find her Cyworld homepage. So easy. tid=24096952

    Her main pic is: she's being hugged from behind by her white man.

  • 輝夜姬
    8:43 pm on May 7th, 2010 111

    Wow. @~@~

    She's plain-looking, but her white man is so big and so-so handsome. Could I get much bigger man if I would try to pick up a white man? ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

  • Tom
    10:20 pm on May 7th, 2010 112

    Let's get serious here. American GI's mistakenly think they have Korean women items in palm of their hands due to their limited exposure to Korea which is strictly confined to what they call the "ville". The women who service the "ville" are almost all made up of prostitutes and drinky girls. Typical American soldiers in other words frequent a ghetto which gives them zero opportunity to meet Korean women who are not in the sex industry. So the conclusion that those Korean women who married GI's in the past and present were and are former prostitutes is not really an inaccurate view.

    A typical prostitute that service the American army has this profile. She's a prostitute that used to service the Korean customers but at the ripe old age of 33, she no longer is marketable to her Korean clientels. To continue to ply her trade, she must take the last resort of servicing the US forces Korea or drop out of the industry. That gives her at least 10 years more marketability for her body. But once she's over 35, desperation sets in, knowing that she's completely rejected from the Korean society which gives no chance of marriage to those women who are caught being former prostitutes. So here she is, knowing she can never get married in Korea, her biological clock ticking, losing her youth and what's remaining of her limited looks, with no future. By the age 40, she's in an almost state of giving up. She knows she can't continue in the business much longer, and with no future, her last resort is to marry a GI and escape to a new land where her past does not disadvantage her.

    I am 100% certain that just about describes your "wife" to a tee.

  • 輝夜姬
    10:55 pm on May 7th, 2010 113

    ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ I've met into short and ugly-looking white men around here. Surprising that they could be so contrary to the whites on the movies.

  • Chris In Dallas
    11:15 pm on May 7th, 2010 114

    Wow, I don't think I've ever think I have seen a comment before which was as so profoundly wrong as this one! Even much of the English is off…

  • Retired GI
    11:32 pm on May 7th, 2010 115

    If by, "long history" you mean since the early 1990s, then I'll agree. I don't think of 20 years as a "long history", but it seems that you do.

    If by "typical average Korean woman with Korean Tradition and culture in them", you mean the Korean woman of low education and does only what she is told to do, then I will agree.

    I didn't enjoy the company of these. I much prefered those attending college.

    They thought I was so cute when I would attempt to speak my Konglish and happy to give instruction. I was also impressed when they would pay for the meals and hotel rooms.

  • UpUpandAway
    11:48 pm on May 7th, 2010 116

    Tom, come on guy, stop acting like you pick up the ladies. You spend way too much time on this blog defending your pitiful beliefs. If you and I walked down a street together the Korean Women wouldn’t pay any attention to you. I spend a lot of time in areas that are far from any U.S. base, around mostly bars filled with young college students, and I pick up Korean Girl’s with little effort. I see the young Korean college dudes looking at me with both anger and envy at the thought that I am in their Country and getting more tail than they ever could in any Country. I have had my share of drunken Korean punks that just can’t stand the fact that a Korean girl would ever think about dating a foreigner, funny thing is they are always pu$$y’s and say something to the Woman instead of manning up and confronting me. The main reason why Korean Women don’t want Korean men is that they are short, no kidding, this is a common answer I always here when Korean Women explaining why they don’t find Korean Men appealing. Even when Korean Men are kind of tall their legs are still short and something just doesn’t look right, that’s what I am told. You say stupid things about American’s like you did in this post trying to convince yourself that Korea has somehow overcome their shortcomings since the Korean War and somehow surpassed America in every way. Fact is, Korean Women don’t hate American’s, Korean Men hate America because they always feel inferior and their feeling is justified.

  • Dr.Yu
    1:16 am on May 8th, 2010 117

    I have a question to the commentators here: As I pointed out before one of the reason why some korean women marry foreign man is to avoid the passive role imposed on them by Korean tradition, but, it seems that after marrying a foreign man they stick to her korean custom and tradition which seems to prove that running away from korean tradition is an illusion. am`I right?

  • Retired GI
    2:44 am on May 8th, 2010 118

    Wrong. I knew many in Texas and Tennessee that were/are ANYTHING but traditional.

    They do stick with the Noribong and Kimchi. :grin:

  • kushibo
    3:41 am on May 8th, 2010 119

    Tom while you may be describing some GI marriages, you have failed (a) in your argument by not recognizing that the Ville has long not been the only way in which GIs can meet Korean females, among which is actually church groups where the women are generally the complete opposite of what you suggested, and (b) in civil discourse by calling Leon La Porte's wife a whore.

    Really, if you have a beef with him, keep it with him. Don't insult a total stranger who is an innocent bystander in this discussion.

  • Chris In Dallas
    4:01 am on May 8th, 2010 120

    Dr. Yu, I would say you are partially correct. The Korean women I know married to American men tend to play the traditional role to a noticeable extent. However, they do it at their own pace.

  • Dr.Yu
    6:01 am on May 8th, 2010 121

    Right, that's my impression.

    When it comes to people from outside home, Korean women married to western man adopts western behavior, but when inside home, they treat their family (husband and specially kids) with the rigor of Korean tradition, so in the end, what they really seek when looking for a foreign man is: avoid the duties of a Korean wife (especially those duties related to the husband's family members) and/or satisfy her fantasy of marrying a non-Korean man (because somehow they think foreigners have more to offer to them than Korean man), but after marrying a foreigner she will act just like her mother did, so these women are not in a crusade against Korean man or tradition, but pursuing a life stile that they believe can only be achieved outside of Korean influence.

    Two important remarks:

    1) these “liberals” or “revolutionary” women are still a very small minority in Korea because the majority still believes in Korean tradition and understand that only though Korean man can live this way, and

    2) a foreign man willing to marry a Korean woman better be prepare to be a “Korean husband” because they want a hard working man (very hard working man actually) and genius kids that study hard and are successful in what ever they do. If you don’t like the second condition better run away from them.

    The price of marrying a Korean woman is high, but the reward is high too.

  • Lemmy
    7:28 am on May 8th, 2010 122

    Yu, here is the story depicting the type of husbands Korean women seek

    http://rokdrop.com/2010/05/07/eel-anal-probe-pran

  • Tom
    12:16 pm on May 8th, 2010 123

    Right. That's why there are so many Filipina and Russian ladies to serve GI's with their gang banger tatoos, because Korean women are draping all over the bald and soon to be fat GI slobs who think they are some hot sh*t. :roll:

    I think all this talk about Western guys being so gentle and respectful towards women is all talk, a ploy. This thread proves that it's not true at all. These fake losers think of Korean women as an object, something to be f*cked by the hundreds. Just read all the posts, I rest my case. I'm no better, but at least I don't pretend to be what I'm not.

  • Random Guy
    1:09 pm on May 8th, 2010 124

    I won't even say what Retired GIs' identity is

    Now "Korean girls prefer white guys" is like taking the numbers of white girls in the US who don't mind dating non-white guys and jumping to a conclusion of "they don't want white guys"

    It means they're open to the ideas to date non-whites doesn't mean they prefer it.

    you're only looking at one side of the story. Girls always bitches about how guys are horrible but they still date/hook up/fuck/get married. Now are you gonna say that because there is an article about how some women prefer to not to marry with interviews from few women included in the article, are you going to jump to the conclusion that a lot / most wouldn't want to get married?

    FYI "you mean the Korean woman of low education and does only what she is told to do, then I will agree."

    Now typical low educated girls who are brainwashed to follow their instruction given by korean men? Korea has the highest rate of college graduates in the world.

  • Random Guy
    1:10 pm on May 8th, 2010 125

    Retired GI needs to go to Korea, NY, LA instead of Itaewon.

    Not even Hongdae is qualified.

  • Random Guy
    1:12 pm on May 8th, 2010 126

    anyways too many trolls believe in only what they want.

    -said by the great trolls-

    Hey GI i'd like to see some photos :)

  • Random Guy
    1:34 pm on May 8th, 2010 127

    It's just funny how most Asian women openly answer "I prefer Asian men" to dumb questions like "Why do Asian women prefer white men, not Asian men?" on Yahoo Answers and trolls like Chris in Korea, Retired GI jumps to conclusion REGARDLESS of what Asian women says, and believe in crap like "They don't like Asian men"

    Same with Korean women.

    Women complains about Men all the time. does that mean they don't like men at all?

    They love them and they want them to improve because they love their men.

    I'll let trolls be trolls and let them keep their little fantasy on forums and posts like this.

    I know I'm being trolled but then…

    Again, Some Korean women are open to ideas of having a foreign bf/husband because of the exotic looks due to western media like hollywood productions. Would they rather dream of someone like Orlando Bloom, Leonardo DiCaprio or some random GI/ESL teacher they saw in Itaewon?

    Itaewon has the highest concentrate of Westerners in Korea, There are few spots in Hongdae and there are few in Gangnam, and some other places.

    1. Are you more likely to find the highest quality/typical Korean women in Itaewon? or outside of Itaewon?

    2, Are you likely to find foreigners more in Itaewon or outside of Itaewon?

    3. Are ESL teachers likely to rant about how they met someone in a bar/club in Itaewon or gangnam?

    Guys wake up. There are internet cafes where Korean girls are waiting for their boyfriends to finish their duties in the ROK military services. at least with 10s of thousands members. There is one in Daum with 150K enlisted users.

    TONS AND TONS of couple photos when i NEVER saw a single photo of Korean girl w white guys who claims "I get laid a lot in Korea"

    That daum cafe alone probably out numbers teenagers and college sutdents who has fantasy about foreigners even though they've never really met one.

    You guys are just as biased as the Koreans you criticize.

    Yeah Korean girls don't want Korean guys. Thats why lately this whole phenomenon in Korea of "Idol"(Metrosexual looking ggot mi nam" caught on flame. Groups like 2AM, 2PM, Shinee, Big Bang are launched and they're popular because Korean girls HATE Korean men.

    Ironically You guys say "oh korean men looks like skinny, weak, metrosexual" Well at least they're on TV right?

    http://mnd9090.tistory.com/category/%ED%8C%8C%EB%

    online web cartoon by a female who has her bf serving in the ROK military. She updates her "webtoon" on regular base.(at least once or twice a week)

    http://cafe.daum.net/uk

    here is the cafe on daum with 150k users who awaits for their boyfriends serving in the military to return to them.

    I've been totally trolled

  • Random Guy
    1:38 pm on May 8th, 2010 128

    At last

    yeah you guys hate metro sexual/boyish look of Korean guys and think you have it better. Yeah look who Korean girls prefers to be with?

    And why is there so much hate on ESL forums when female ESL teachers brings up topics on dating K-guys?

    Ironic. Just because you can't date them don't insult them.

  • Random Guy
    1:43 pm on May 8th, 2010 129

    Again, please don't bring up crap like "the public discourages K-girls to reveal their secret foreign BFS!"

    websites like Daum, Naver, Nate has TONS AND TONS of argument between Korean guys and Girls about what they dislike about each other and they always add up comments like "don't get me wrong, I'm only gonna marry a Korean"

    "난 한국사람이랑 결혼할껀데"

    translates to "just because if talk sh*t about Korean guys/girls doesn't mean I'll marry a non-Korean"

    Even on local articles people argue through replies and comments.

    PERIOD.

  • Random Guy
    1:48 pm on May 8th, 2010 130

    Anyways Korean girls who prefers westerners are more likely to be in itaewon and itaewon isn't the best place to meet typical/quality Korean girls(although always exceptions)

    And I believe a lot of the relationships are happening OUTSIDE OF ITAEWON. Places like UBLOVE.com KOREANCUPID.com hagwons, international student lounges, language exchange meetings, perhaps hagwons.

    Now some prefers to be with foreigners, some are curious of foreigners, some don't mind foreigners(which happens due to personal attractions not via racial attractions), some just go out to practice english(which a lot of foreigners in Korea COMPLAINS about)

    I think foreigners in Korea have the advantage of "nichie market"

    thats about it.

    Again, I've been trolled.

  • Random Guy
    1:51 pm on May 8th, 2010 131

    Anyways Korean girls who prefers westerners are more likely to be in itaewon and itaewon isn't the best place to meet typical/quality Korean girls(although always exceptions)

    And I believe a lot of the relationships are happening OUTSIDE OF ITAEWON. Places like UBLOVE.com KOREANCUPID.com hagwons, international student lounges, language exchange meetings, perhaps hagwons.

    Now some prefers to be with foreigners, some are curious of foreigners, some don't mind foreigners(which happens due to personal attractions not via racial attractions), some just go out to practice english(which a lot of foreigners in Korea COMPLAINS about)

    I'm not going to deny that a lot of foreigners are in relationship in Korea(men and women)

    I think foreigners in Korea have the advantage of "nichie market"

    Now some people look at this and ONLY choose to see ONE SIDE of it.

    That being said, turn it around, the rest who are NOT interested in nichie market won't even bother to look at you. It's double edged sword.

  • Random Guy
    1:56 pm on May 8th, 2010 132

    Here is the bonus.

    Foreigners in Korea, are they likely to be "la crème de la crème"?

    figure it out your selves.

    Hint: "You guys do own mirrors right?"

  • Random Guy
    2:02 pm on May 8th, 2010 133

    Anyways I searched in daum cafe for various types of cafes.

    I searched in the keyword using "외국인" the cafe with most concentrated enlisted users have about 26k users, and there are a few that are like that.

    I seared using keyword "고무신"(it refers to Korean girls who are waiting for their military bf" have cafes with 150k users(which i mentioned) there is one with 51k users, there are like AT LEAST 3 or 4 cafes with AT LEAST 10k users.

    Whats more casual among korean women? sending their boyfriends to military, waiting TWO GODDAMN YEARS without a DATE for their bfs or having casual relationship with random GIs and ESL teachers?

    you do the math.

    http://search.daum.net/search?w=cafe&m=name&a
    "고무신"

    http://search.daum.net/search?nil_suggest=btn&amp
    "외국인"

    Now you can't tranlsate "영어 공부" as "in search of tonight's caucasian partner"

    unless you're an IDIOT.

  • Retired GI
    2:25 pm on May 8th, 2010 134

    Nice to know I'm sooo important to you. :lol: Too bad you can't understand what you read.

    Nine years in Korea my inflamed friend. Pretty sure I saw/visited Most of it.

    From the USO trips to the Mountains in the east to the amusement parks. From the Museim trips to the college students apartment south of my camp. To the woman at the church and the sweet high school teacher.

    Never made it to Hongdae. Doesn't sound like I missed anything.

    Maybe you should visit Texas. Killeen is like little Korea with the churchs and Noribongs. Korean food stores also. Many Korean women with American husbands. ;-)

    Try most any Military base to see same.

    You don't want to believe it? Fine by me. :grin:

  • Retired GI
    2:41 pm on May 8th, 2010 135

    RANDOM GUY.

    Please PLEASE—go get yourself laid. When your replying to yourself, you're well on your way to LOSING it. Calm down. Some Korean women marry Americans. Big deal. Why do you care? So VERY much. You are SO disrespectful concerning those that do. Why do you care? I couldn't care less what or who American women marry.

    Not my business. I have mine. Is that your problem? You don't have one? Maybe if you were nicer to them. Smile. Show your nice side. I assume you have one.

  • Random Guy
    3:21 pm on May 8th, 2010 136

    Well I thought you wanted opinionated statements with facts to back up… truth hurts so bad? look who needs to get laid :)

  • Random Guy
    3:25 pm on May 8th, 2010 137

    "Maybe you should visit Texas. Killeen is like little Korea with the churchs and Noribongs. Korean food stores also. Many Korean women with American husbands. ;-)

    Try most any Military base to see same.

    You don’t want to believe it? Fine by me."

    Well in LA there are also plenty, and I'm not denying it. I was talking about Korean women in Korea.

    did you have PTSD in Korea?

  • Jannet
    3:31 pm on May 8th, 2010 138

    What is this? father and son having conversation on "getting laid?"

    how "mature"

  • Pete
    4:25 pm on May 8th, 2010 139

    Actually Random Guy is a female.

  • Chris In Dallas
    9:45 pm on May 8th, 2010 140

    [quote]websites like Daum, Naver, Nate has TONS AND TONS of argument between Korean guys and Girls about what they dislike about each other and they always add up comments like “don’t get me wrong, I’m only gonna marry a Korean”

    “난 한국사람이랑 결혼할껀데”

    translates to “just because if talk sh*t about Korean guys/girls doesn’t mean I’ll marry a non-Korean”[/quote]

    Means nothing. If I had a discussion about dating outside racial/ethnic boundaries when I was 23 years old I would have said something quite similar to this. I went to Korea when I was 24 and things changed…

  • Retired GI
    9:50 pm on May 8th, 2010 141

    No, Iraq-2005.

    If the majority of Koreans in Korea feel as you do, no wonder they marry foreigner and leave. Perhaps you haven't noticed, but you opinion of Korean women that marry outside the race is rather LOW.

    The opinion of Koreans, concerning foreigners working in Korea is usually not expressed in the positive. So, the number would be expected to be low.

  • Retired GI
    9:52 pm on May 8th, 2010 142

    Thanks Jannet. Most call me an OLD MAN on this site. :smile: Guess I can't please anyone.

  • Retired GI
    9:56 pm on May 8th, 2010 143

    I thought "he" sounded a bit bitchy. :grin: Now I understand. Is she Korean as well?

  • Chris In Dallas
    3:13 am on May 9th, 2010 144

    Before this disappears, here are my observations on this. The notion your typical Korean girls will spread their legs upon seeing a foreigner is preposterous. On the other end of the spectrum its complete BS they will outright refuse to have anything to do with non-Koreans, even if they are high up on the Korean social ladder. I have two American friends who are married to Koreans with degrees from top Korean universities. Also, the concept Korean-American girls won't have anything to do with non-Koreans just isn't supported by fact.

    I have a number of American friends married to Korean women. While I don't know all their backgrounds, there seems to be certain fact patterns common with the ones I am aware of:

    1. The somehow get in contact with Americans: A total no-brainer. Examples I know of include girls who work on or near US military posts or have friends who date/married an American.

    2. They are Kushibo's Outliers: There is something "different" about them. Two of these Koreans I know have a significant amount of Chinese blood in their veins. Two others had unpleasant experiences while being courted by Korean men. Yet another had eye problems which required her to wear glasses rather than contacts. She told me Korean men find glasses a turn off (I've had this confirmed). Basically, these are girls who are at some sort of disadvantage. And yes, you can add hookers in there too if you wish :roll: .

    3. They somehow got out of the orbit of their traditional support system: Many of these girls got a taste for American men after leaving the family household. Without friends or family around to dissuade them for going of the reservation, they took a leap into a different culture.

    From my observations, #1 is a must. Either 2 or 3 always seem to be present.

    On the topic of KA girls, someone thinking they avoid non-Koreans is either not looking closely or is delusional. Random Guy posits this notion is false because he/she/it hasn't seen it in Los Angeles. Bad example given the high concentration of Koreans there. From what I have seen is young Asians in general in most locations have the choice of either dating/marrying outside their racial or ethnic group, become a nun or priest, or practice incest. Outside of some West Coast Korea towns, a Korean may not have that many options in this realm if they limit themselves to just Koreans.

  • 輝夜姬
    4:03 am on May 9th, 2010 145

    Why do the men here not judge women on their own basis? They look like the male fox who spoiled the mood by saying to the cut-tailed fox, "But,… how would it be that the female foxes don't like us, no-tailed ones?" Revolution of cutting their tails was thwarted by this futile consideration based on the guess on their females' point of view.

    I think this commment, http://rokdrop.com/2010/05/05/korean-women-increa
    ) is the closest to the reality and well, I expressed similar opinion at http://kr.blog.yahoo.com/dogguli2/1992.html#23424

  • Retired GI
    6:52 am on May 9th, 2010 146

    Got some. ;-)

  • Jannet
    8:00 am on May 9th, 2010 147

    Yeah and when they complain about Korean men means something. right?

  • Random Guy
    8:12 am on May 9th, 2010 148

    Ok well I didn't deny anything about interracial relationships happening in the US, and Korea.

    Now what I disagrees is that the way you think the reason for their interracial relationship is "they dislike Korean men" which is just your wishful thought.

    Do you believe in racial preference overwrites EVERYTHING?

    Ironically you guys are the rednecks down in Texas, not me lol

  • Random Guy
    8:52 am on May 9th, 2010 149

    Well this types of discussions like that has been going around for YEARS and still not a dramatic change.

    Look at the facts, look at the evidence, don't just type them in lol

  • Retired GI
    11:22 am on May 9th, 2010 150

    Didn't say I lived in Texas. I SERVED in Texas. There you go assuming again Girl.

    I never said 100% of anyone disliked 100% of anyone else. I maintained that Korean women DO MARRY Americans. You said that only the low ones do. You said no "proper" korean woman would marry an American. (Speaking about being a redneck). You fit just fine.

    "do you believe in racial preference overwrites EVERYTHING?" Absolutely not!

    Never said I did. I said some Korean women DO marry Americans.

    MONEY overwrites everything! No woman will marry a man that can not support her. Next comes the type of person he is. If race is in the mix at all, it is because some people are attracted to certain physical character traits.

    Most women prefer slim and tall, after the money issue is worked out. I've seen some tall Korean guys. But the only thing written in stone is that he be able to support in some way. Nice butt doesn't hurt either, or so I'm told.

    Race is not everything, no matter how much the government and other race baiters wish it were and try to use it. (with much success)

    You introduce me to a slim woman with a cute face and I don't care what color her skin is.

    Asian women TEND to be slim. I like that.

    Black women TEND to have a nice butt and Asian women TEND to not have a butt.

    White women TEND to be fat and believe the man should pay for everything. I've been impressed when Korean women paid. Which means they were NOT from Itaewon.

    I have no idea where you are from. But if they are all like you (anti-american and looking down on their sisters for marring outside their race), I would want to avoid it girl. Not a nice place.

  • Retired GI
    11:26 am on May 9th, 2010 151

    forgot the "Y" in marrying.

  • Retired GI
    11:32 am on May 9th, 2010 152

    Why do you refer to yourself as a "guy". You should be proud of whatever you are. Even a "female"! Nothing wrong with being a woman. Girl in your case. If you were a woman, you would know better.

    Remember to lift the seat when you pee. You can do it and men owe you nothing.

    We don't complain when you leave it up. :grin:

  • Retired GI
    11:33 am on May 9th, 2010 153

    drop, not lift.

  • kushibo
    11:38 am on May 9th, 2010 154

    Guy or girl, I like reading Random Guy's stuff. In fact, if he/she ever feels like blogging on a semi-regular or even totally random basis, I'd like to offer THIS VENUE.

  • Retired GI
    11:44 am on May 9th, 2010 155

    She is entertaining. Now wipe your nose. :grin: Kidding! ;-)

  • Random Guy
    1:33 pm on May 9th, 2010 156

    Retired GI = ChrisInDallas

    Ok calm your @$$ down before you lose your self.

    1. When the hell did I ever deny about interracial relationships occuring in the US and Korea?

    2. You say you didn't say anything like "100% of people from certain nations have same ideas and perspective about certain subjects" Well let's apply what you claim and say Korean men and women TENDS to prefer each other.

    3. Applying what you've claimed, just as Kushibo said, girls who'd date GIs and ESL teachers in Korea TENDS to be OUTLIERS(whether in a positive or negative way), and it's not a normal trend.

    This is what I've been trying to point out although I know im being trolled to a loser whoes never actually dated a white girl saying "white girls expect men to pay everything"

    Is that the reason why you ended up with a Korean girl in the US? lol

    have you even ever had a chance to date a white girl?

    Look who's insulting fellow sisters.

    "I’ve been impressed when Korean women paid. Which means they were NOT from Itaewon."

    This is strange, Korean girls are relatively high maintenance compared to other girls. Although when I meet older women "누나들" because I'm usually the younger one and they pay for me :) When I'm meeting girls who are younger than I am even when they try to pay for me I pay for them. When you're dating the same person enough times, eventually whether they're younger than you or not, they'll pay for some. This is the typical with Korean girls.

    I try to keep this as factual and evident as possible, leaving my "personal" anecdotes aside so it doesn't sound so biased and opinionated.

    Now I don't know why do you keep bringing up your personal experience which I'm not even sure if you really experienced and try to validate it as "typical" case?

  • kushibo
    1:39 pm on May 9th, 2010 157

    This is strange, Korean girls are relatively high maintenance compared to other girls. Although when I meet older women “누나들” because I’m usually the younger one and they pay for me When I’m meeting girls who are younger than I am even when they try to pay for me I pay for them.

    Most KoKos I've dated implied — directly or by omission — that I was to pay. For initial meetings, it was only when they wanted to make it clear there was no interest in me on their part that they would make sure they paid their half.

  • Random Guy
    1:50 pm on May 9th, 2010 158

    Usually it's the guys who opens their wallets. When you're dating, in the beginning men pays the most(or not) but eventually when you're in a relationship, who pays what doesn't become that much of an issue.

    I mean cases when I do girls a favor like giving them rides or helping out with things they trouble with, they try to treat me out to a meal or coffee at least. If they're too young then I decline and say things like "다음번에 너가 사. 근데… 나는 입이 고급이라… 초밥이나 고기 아니면 좀 힘든데… ㅋㅋㅋ" then they crack up.

  • Random Guy
    1:58 pm on May 9th, 2010 159

    And for me since im in early 20s, the girls who are considered younger than i am are 19,20,21 years old. to make THEM pay is a lot of burden for them unless they're total Biznatch. Then I'd be like "그래 그럼 니가 내, 잘먹엇어 ㅋ"

  • Marcus Ambrose
    2:14 pm on May 9th, 2010 160

    You've interpreted the statistics incorrectly. Whites are 40% of welfare, but 80% of the population. http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0762156.html

    To explain: To be equal, take 100 welfare people. 80 should be white, 12 black, and 4 asian, and the rest 'other'.

    So, statistically, whites are at a lower rate than others. Asians are at a REALLY lower rate.

  • kushibo
    2:27 pm on May 9th, 2010 161

    Chill, Retired GI… wouldn't want to get your heart rate up to dangerous levels. I was only making a (lame) joke about government cutting back on things.

    Marcus Ambrose, if you notice up above, I clearly wrote that Whites are NOT the largest recipients of Welfare by rate, only by sheer numbers. So no, there was no "interpreted the statistics incorrectly."

    I'm guilty of it from time to time myself, so I won't come down to hard on you, but it's a good idea to clearly read what people write before "explain" it for them.

    As for the disproportionate representation of Blacks among the poor, having spent the first part of my life in a nearly all-Black community where even us non-Blacks were victims of policies (generally illegal) against the Black community, I may have a bit of a different insight into this than you might.

    Let's just say that not all the bad economic numbers facing Blacks are self-inflicted.

  • someotherguy
    5:07 pm on May 9th, 2010 162

    I can attest to this. When I started dating Koreans my parents were super cool about it. Originally I was afraid my dad would have issues, he's a Vietnam war disabled vet, but amazingly he was supportive when I told him I planed on marrying my GF eventually.

    It was my older sister that gave me hell. Her first response to hearing I was dating a Korean was "that is fine, just don't marry one of them". When I corrected her in that I probably would marry the GF her response was that I should reconsider cause "those people" just want a ticket to the USA. I about exploded on her… but cooler heads prevail.

    FYI she's fat white with two kids and super religious (Mormon) with the holier then thou attitude. Never got along well with her.

  • someotherguy
    5:29 pm on May 9th, 2010 163

    And this is the reason my GF refuse's to marry a Korean man. She absolutely can not stand small minded thinking or blatant racist beliefs. It piss's her off to no end some of the crap that is "expected" of women in SK.

    Funny thing is… the majority of the women I've known (most as just friends) feel the same way. You guys really need to get rid of those 90's thoughts. Korea is a place of extreme rapid chance, things that should take 20 years instead take 5. The Korea of the 90's and early 21st century is no more, it doesn't exist. The social attitudes have changes and many of the old rules have been replaced. In 2003 it was taboo to kiss / public displays of affection between a Korean man and his wife / GF. Now I can't go downtown without seeing PDA's between Korean couples, and this is in Daegu which is considered a "conservative city". Take a good hard look at K-pop to see the shift in attitudes of the younger generation.

    And guys … the girls most likely to go out with foreigners are the 20~25 year old college students.

  • someotherguy
    5:36 pm on May 9th, 2010 164

    Dr. Yu,

    There is a difference between being "expected" to do something and doing it because you want to.

    I say this because my GF acts like this. She's an extremely strong willed women who absolutely refuse's to have anyone tell her how to live her life, Korean men included. She spent the better part of the last two years working on cruise ships to travel the world. But when we're together she enjoyed playing the "traditional good Korean girl" role, mostly because I do not expect nor require that of her. She genuinely enjoys making food for me and doing all that stuff. And I'm deeply grateful to her and thank her all the time for those things.

    Its the shift in attitudes and expectations that matters the most. Doing something you enjoy because you enjoy it is leagues better then because your expected to do it.

  • Leon LaPorte
    5:39 pm on May 9th, 2010 165

    She's my ex, and I'm not easily offended, especially by the likes of Tom ;)

    Anyway, just for your info, Tommy-Boy, she was a nice lady from Chamsil Seoul (no military bases or bars around there, eh?) and a respected padook player/teacher. I know Koreans respect teachers, right?

    We were just young when we got married and with the rigors of military life and time we grew apart. It happens, no matter the races or cultures involved. We tried, it didn't work. It was a fairly amicable split. I hear she has a nice family now and is living in the US.

    How's your life treating you? :lol:

  • someotherguy
    6:19 pm on May 9th, 2010 166

    Well numbers 2 and 3 are extremely vague and happen to everyone at some point in time. Nearly every girl has had a bad experience with a boyfriend in the past regardless of their ethnicity. This applies to both girls and boys. Being outside your typical social system is common for young kids outside of high school. Whether its visiting a foreign country, going to live with a family member, or attending college in another city, everyone at some point in their life goes somewhere.

    Of all the Korean – Foreign couples I've known, they had the following in common.

    1. One is Korean

    2. One is not Korean

    3. They learn to speak a common language or mix of languages to an extent possible to facilitate a relationship.

    4. They met somewhere somehow.

    And everything else is up in the air.

    Finally something that's been bugging me. People need to understand the context of the place an experience happened to understand the meaning of that experience. Seoul should ~not~ be used as an example of typical Korean behavior. When you have nearly half the population of the country in one area it does crazy things to people. Its the reason I absolutely hate going there. If you visited / lived in Busan or Daegu you get a markedly different impression from people then from in Seoul. And go further to places like Ulsan, Pyeongtek, Pohong or Daejon and the impression further differs.

    And why the hell are we using places like LA / Texas or other USA cities as examples of Korean "behavior". That is like inferring how American's act based on seeing them in Korea… seriously.

  • 輝夜姬
    7:18 pm on May 9th, 2010 167

    I cancel the above statement about her. After other pictures, I feel she's pretty. ^^

  • Lemmy
    7:21 pm on May 9th, 2010 168

    Chinese are such a beautiful race of people.

  • Retired GI
    11:26 pm on May 9th, 2010 169

    There you go assuming again. I never said who I'm married to or even if I'm married. Why would I tell someone such as yourself any information. You only point out the negative, as is your nature on each of your comments. "Never" is extreme. Any strong feelings I have are based on my experience. Not some popular view held by a certain group.

    My opinion of white women is more personal experience than an insult. But you are unable to understand the difference as usual.

    I use my personal experience because I HAVE experience.

    Rather than admit you're wrong, you attack those that do not agree with your anti-American views. Very telling of your nature young woman.

  • someotherguy
    11:57 pm on May 9th, 2010 170

    A stroll down Itaewon / Hongdae on a weekend pretty much blows that idea out of the water. Hell me going out to downtown in Deagu on the weekend proves differently. Its common now to see some foreigner guy with a Korean girl, and also a foreigner girl with a Korean guy. Granted they tend to be young, and I do agree that few Korean girls would actually marry a foreigner guy. Dating foreigners isn’t taboo anymore, for girls its easy English practice and a chance to experience a foreign culture without having to live Korea.

  • someotherguy
    12:18 am on May 10th, 2010 171

    Well Korean’s are the most common Asian heritage person in the USA, so it would go the think that the most common union would be between the largest demographics available. There is nothing special about “white” / “black” / “brown” / “yellow”, just people meeting people and the biological imperative to diversify vs the social obstacles present.

  • Random Guy
    3:28 am on May 10th, 2010 172

    Anti-American?

    So whats the definition of being an American to you? being white?

    I'm sorry you have bad dating experiences, I don't go through that that much. At least I can afford to go on a date although you're probably as twice older than I am :smile:

    To be honest I used to HATE those who only looks for money form guys but from looking at how some guys act, I understand. And most women aren't like that. Guys look for sex, I think in greater in % of women who look for money in sex. Isn't that hypocritical? guys talk about hot girls all the time and want hot girls regardless of what they have to offer to the ladies. But there are some very very very pretty(like model looking) ladies that aren't like that at all. They've had enough dates to weed out losers like you.

  • Random Guy
    3:30 am on May 10th, 2010 173

    "I think in greater in % of women who look for money in sex"

    shite, that should be "I think in greater % of women who look for money in guys"

    guys, not sex. :shock:

  • Random Guy
    3:33 am on May 10th, 2010 174

    I thought I made clear distinction on how differently koreans behave in places like LA compared to Korea. Have you not read what I've written?

  • Retired GI
    5:52 am on May 10th, 2010 175

    Nice bait, race baiter. If that is the best you can come up with, you are becoming a waste of time. You're nolonger talkin of an issue.

    Just spewing hate like a pissed off little girl.

    But it was nice to see you admit to using guys for their money. ;-)

  • Random Guy
    6:35 am on May 10th, 2010 176

    You want sex but you don't want to spend money on dates. I doubt that you're even white. 그리고 니미럴 씹창 애자 흰둥이새꺄 나 여자 아니거든? 알고 씨부려라 엇다대고 지랄이여 지랄은 듸질라고. 병신새끼 지가 여자 못만나는걸 왜 여기와서 지랄이야. 하여튼 백인새끼들 애자 찌질이들이라니깐 ㅋㅋㅋ

    go on run away loser. I'll let you live in your little "lala land"

    back to the cave ;-)

  • someotherguy
    10:12 am on May 10th, 2010 177

    Actually no I haven't. I did at first, but then you started creating threads just to reply to your own thread to reply to your reply. You use circular and often fuzzy logic to backup your points. In the end, your not here to discuss / debate anything but rather state your opinions and stir up trouble. I treat your posts in the same manor I do Toms, I notice they exist, read the first five words at most, then ignore them from there on out.

    If you want people to take you seriously, don't troll.

  • Random Guy
    11:06 am on May 10th, 2010 178

    I'm trying to make a point and I have. But you choose not to believe and only believe in what you like to believe in.

  • Random Guy
    11:55 am on May 10th, 2010 179

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le4gBArK1oU

  • Marcus Ambrose
    12:53 pm on May 10th, 2010 180

    USERS BEWARE: I watch youtube and this is the first time I've gotten this warning:

    This request is blocked by the FireWall Anti-Spyware Service. Name: CoolWebSearch ActiveX component download (Adware)

    Seems something is embedded in this video that is not healthy for your PC. The links from Tom did not generate this warning, only this one from Random Guy.

  • Random Guy
    1:31 pm on May 10th, 2010 181

    lol its a youtube link for God sakes. You just don't like what the truth is.

  • Random Guy
    1:54 pm on May 10th, 2010 182

    http://www.youtube.com/user/TheJapanChannelDcom#p

    this guy that runs the channel has some interesting points, not that I agree with everything he says

  • Random Guy
    2:25 pm on May 10th, 2010 183

    "Take a good hard look at K-pop to see the shift in attitudes of the younger generation."

    I notice that they like more of "idols" that are "metrosexual looking" and "fashionable"

    which is completely opposite of western men in Korea dresses like. Also the taste of Korean men for Korean women is totally opposite from Western men as well :twisted:

    Yep, Korean women at the ages of 20~25 went through all kinds of crap about how they're mistreated by the Korean men and blah blah blah so they know.

    right…

    can people even speak some english at Daegu?

  • Random Guy
    2:33 pm on May 10th, 2010 184

    This is just sad when a lot of you buy into crap what Korean women says thoughtlessly and theoretically.

    1. A lot of Koreans talk crap about Japan, America but when they actually meet them, they don't really care. Actually most of them tries to speak Japanese or English because when they meet in person, racial preference wears off. Another thing, in long term cultural and language barrier takes place.

    2. A lot of women says crap about men, same the other way around. Does that mean people will stop dating? Stop taking every little meaningless things said by small sample of women and translating it into a favorable statement only to you. There are always two sides of the story.

    3. Right… anti-foreigner feelings are only amongst Korean women. There are absolutely no stigma and stereotypes of foreigners among Korean women.

    I bet who claims such a stupid thing haven't been on many dates. Do you take EVERY little signs from women and translate it into something hopeful only in your head? You need to walk outside of your room and experience the real world.

  • Marcus Ambrose
    5:01 pm on May 10th, 2010 185

    No, I actually couldn't watch it, it was blocked by the firewall. The links that Tom posted worked, but not that one. The next link you just posted also works, but not the first one. So clearly, there is something wrong with the link.

    Don't accuse me of not liking something so using an excuse, if I don't like it, I will tell you.

    BTW, I agree that the U.S. needs to leave Korea, Japan, Germany, Italy, the middle East. If those people want to screw up the world, let them. There's no reason the U.S. should be the world's policeman, just worry about the U.S.

  • someotherguy
    11:21 am on May 11th, 2010 186

    Belief is an issue of faith, you can not change someone's beliefs regardless of the validity of the argument. If someone believes a tree is purple, then no one else can convince them the tree is really green, even if the green tree is right in front of them. For this reason I do not deal in beliefs, I deal in definitive points and counter-points, hopefully backed with empirical evidence.

    So the question becomes, is this an issue of belief for you? Do you believe that Korean women are not starting to prefer foreign husbands? Do you believe Korean women would prefer to stay in the confusion "good wife" role for the rest of their lives (or until they divorce their husbands)? What exactly ~are~ your beliefs on this matter?

  • someotherguy
    11:46 am on May 11th, 2010 187

    Umm … stick man argument much? Go back to learning critical reasoning before entering into this debate.

    Don't confuse media / netitzen crap with actual people. I tend to ignore the former and have relationships with the later. And women are women, across the entire world, same as men are men. A tall attractive women in high heels, short skirt and tight blouse will turn the heads of any man on the planet, regardless of nationality. Same as a tall attractive man with sharp cut outfit, well made maintained hair / skin will get looks from any women on the planet.

    Right now in Korea, "anti-foreigner" feelings are high predominantly with the older upper-class males. This is actually easy to understand, any group will demonize another group when it feels threatened by the group. Much of Asia is dominated by the Confucian social system. In this system the older males maintain power over the younger males and females through social pressure and predefined roles. Things like "your expected to make your parents proud and listen to them" follow by "a good Korean girl marries a good Korean man to make good Korean babies for their parents". There is little if any actual thought given to the feelings of the Korean girl involved, she is merely a vessel for the Korean male to express his genetics and his social obligations. This is well documented and a favorite sore topic for many Korean women.

    Where the anti-foreigner feelings come from is this social system can only be maintained in a vacuum. Because the females are getting the proverbial "short end of the stick" if it becomes known that they can escape the social system to one of more fairness, then the power base of the older males erodes. The presence of foreigners, and thus the resulting Korean female – Foreigner male relationships represents a direct threat to the Confucian power of the current older males.

    This is the reason behind all the anti-English teacher, the whole push to use Korean English teachers, and the "unqualified" English teacher rhetoric. This disdain used to be reserved for the military because they represented the biggest public target, in recent years that has changed to English teachers.

    And yes, prior to dating my current GF (whom I've known for three years) I was very successful with the ladies. This isn't bragging or other stupid male nonsense. It is the basic truth that if your decent, nice, and maintain a groomed appearance, its not that difficult to attract and pick-up on the college ages females.

  • someotherguy
    6:31 pm on May 11th, 2010 188

    I was referring to what was socially “acceptable” in entertainment in the 90′s vs 2010. What you will notice is that when something becomes acceptable in mass entertainment (Tv, Music, Media) it soon becomes acceptable in mainstream. I’m referring to culture things, food / fashion / PDA / relationships and such, not something stupid like murder and thriller flicks. The exact “cause vs effect” of this can be an interesting discussion in its own right.

    I’m really laughing are you generalization of things like taste, you have no clue. Actually I found it was better to dress more like Korean men (tight jeans / shirts, sharp cut clothing) vs the arch-typical casual / shaggy western style. Even to the point of having some custom suits made up for me, dress the part so to speak.

    Other then that, people are people. Women are women, men are men. This is a universal role, there is nothing special about Korean men / women, merely the culture stigma and xenophobia present in Confucianism. Really that is the only thing holding Korea as a country back, its deep rooted Confucianism, that system is horribly sexist, racist and designed to keep peasants acting like peasants and nobility acting like nobility. When it is considered socially and morally acceptable for an entire country to lie about something “to save face”, that is when you gotta wonder.

    And yes English is a big problem down here. Its treated like a purely test subject instead of an actual language. You must learn to speak konglish to get anything done due to the low amount (relatively) of foreigners present. And no I’m not a teacher, nor military.

  • Random Guy
    7:13 pm on May 11th, 2010 189

    you're generalizing again. You're only looking at one side. This debate of "korean men are too old fashioned, Korean women are starting to leave them" started decades ago. Ironically, the best quality girls are with Korean guys.

    Now what'll change in next 10,20 years is "illusion" of "perfect men(western)"

    just like in the states, as a personal preference Korean Korean girls will stick with Korean men, most of Korean American women will stick with Korean American men, but when they do go for non-Koreans, it'll be based on personal attractions, not racial attractions.

    Koreans in Korea will see even further how to choose "better" non-Koreans that they're personally attracted to not because of these "generalizations"

    ;-)

  • Random Guy
    7:16 pm on May 11th, 2010 190

    Well plenty of my Korean girlfriends got irritated with loserish looking white guys trying to grab their asses when they're dancing with me and my friends at hongdae and gangnam clubs.

    It's widely discussed how they're annoyed with white men who thinks girls will flock them in clubs in places like "http://cafe.daum.net/npnp"

    But you should ignore it ;-)

  • 輝夜姬
    8:42 pm on May 11th, 2010 191

    People are people. Women are like men and Korean women are like women of other countries. Nothing special. Yawn.

    Wanderers or aliens are not welcomed at first, for their past is uncertain or they can leave anywhere, anytime. Who knows his past. Look at this man, whose past is murky, http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2007/4/11/murky… .

    This concern is also expressed in Narcissus And Goldmund.

    Let's trace back Jean Valjean's past. Who could expect to meet his humble past.

    Ah, so could anyone try to confirm this Canadian a real Stanford graduate with top grade, http://bbs1.tv.media.daum.net/gaia/do/talk/enter_… ?

  • 輝夜姬
    7:29 am on May 12th, 2010 192

    Here, u see a photo of the Stanford top graduate’s graduation day,
    http://lady.khan.co.kr/khlady.html?mode=view&code=5&artid=200909041113231&pt=nv

    Do English teachers konw this: the elder brother of this Korean top singer and Canadian is also a English teacher? Moreover, this English teacher is reportedly alumnus of Colombia Univ, both undergraduate and master’s degree. Once worked at Wall street.
    He’s now English teacher in Korea. So, be proud of being English teacher. His nationality is unknown.
    Here are his photos,
    http://applekorea.tistory.com/236

    His elder sister is reportedly graduated from Cornell Univ, whose major is psychology, went to lawschool in Korea, worked as a clerk at US COURT of Federal Claims.

    She in Korean news,
    http://www.cbs.co.kr/Nocut/Show.asp?IDX=319094

    Enjoy seeing the happy life of these maybe foreigners. U foreigners can do it if u try to do.

  • Marcus Ambrose
    8:24 am on May 12th, 2010 193

    You said "you’re generalizing again. You’re only looking at one side. This debate of “korean men are too old fashioned, Korean women are starting to leave them” started decades ago. Ironically, the best quality girls are with Korean guys."

    But isn't the sentence "Ironically, the best quality girls are with Korean guys" also a generalization?

  • Random Guy
    9:58 am on May 12th, 2010 194

    So I guess the focus of the debate is now to debunk my logic rather than focusing on the context of the debate.

    Fine with me but…

    우길껄 우겨라 병신아 ㅋㅋㅋ

    You just seem to be in denial.

  • someotherguy
    10:04 am on May 12th, 2010 195

    Marcus, troll is as troll does.

  • Random Guy
    10:06 am on May 12th, 2010 196

    Then why are you trying to re-translate it with a different spin adding Korean women, and White Men based on generalization?

    You're criticizing the whole Asian social systems based on your beliefs on western values.

    Asians don't admire/want westerners, they try to bring in some of the positive concept into Asia to become better.

    Would you say the same thing if we're to replace white guys with black guys and korean girls with white girls?

  • Marcus Ambrose
    10:59 am on May 12th, 2010 197

    No, I expect reasonable debate. And yes, you have debunked yourself by being a hypocrite. You cannot attack someone for generalizations and then use generalizations yourself.

    PS. Calling me an a-hole in hangul probably gives you little giggles, proud of yourself to post in Korean? Just by going to a personal attack and not even having the courage to do it in the language of the board shows that yes, you are a troll.

  • Garry
    11:06 am on May 12th, 2010 198

    I would love to have a Korean lady for a wife.Contact me if interested.

  • Random Guy
    11:43 am on May 12th, 2010 199

    Goto work and play and craigslist south korea. There are plenty of GIs and ESL teachers looking for dates, posting up their profiles like resumes. also Koreancupid.com, UBlove.com

  • Random Guy
    11:45 am on May 12th, 2010 200

    ok sure.

  • 88mm
    9:22 am on May 16th, 2010 201

    Its all about the mating game. Men want to procreate with the best female they can. The need to be dominant is a natural instinct. Thus snatching a hot foreign girl is thrilling and can be a challenge. Local men feeling threatened? Well that is a trait of nature as well. Protecting your territory, be it perceived or factual is really all just the biology of mankind. The social aspects however are where the whole ordeal becomes messy.

  • 輝夜姬
    11:28 pm on May 16th, 2010 202

    I'd like to introduce this couple of foreign man and Korean woman to you,

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT_M6zZaFLU

  • 輝夜姬
    4:56 pm on May 18th, 2010 203

    This is about women's perception on American soldiers in Korea, http://www.82cook.com/zb41/zboard.php?id=free2&am

    Enjoy this if u can. If u ask, I'll explain.

  • roko
    1:16 am on July 12th, 2010 204

    people,you just discuss not needed things which you will never change.this korean girl here is smart,love is love,doesnt matter of a race,and korean guys are ones of the best in the world.there are bad,but usally they are good in majority,get rid of stereotypes,love,peace,and let other people live.we are all humans.

  • roko
    1:24 am on July 12th, 2010 205

    i am european,but i love everyone,neverthless of a culture,love knows no race,for me,korea is best country,even better than my own,people who critisize,dont have someone who loves them yet,but hey let that topic away.korean women are excellent people,dont ruin either korean guys reputations or korean womens reputations jumping around saying,he or shes bad for dating foreigner,white,black,or someone else.love is best feeling.my best regards to all koreans in a world hoping they will not see your arguings about their lives,leave them alone and get better topic,whos a foreign and whos not,love doesnt choose race.live ur lives,leave korean women and korean men alone,jumping saying they are worse than a white guys.dont praise white guys cuz i could tell the whole britannica which would have more bad sides than the whole universe of what we white guys did to other races in world,so dont jump around saying white guys or girls better than either korean woman or man.the fact is,korean women are better as a life partner than a usual white girl,now this is not a generalization,just saying facts.dont bother either korean women or men,they are best,leave them alone.and live ur own lives in a way you want without claiming others are bad.and korean girl in here,thanks for link for this indian and korean,they are good couple.i wish you all all the best.

  • Jeeves
    3:59 pm on August 28th, 2010 206

    Man that comment about Korean women making a mistake by moving to the US and their "failing economy"… wow is that all you got? I've seen YouTube videos of Korean girls marrying poor guys from Africa. They're not interested in money, they just don't want YOU!

  • korean women
    10:26 pm on August 31st, 2010 207

    Another desperate, delusional American hoping to indoctrinate 2nd rated Korean women to date them instead of Korean men. The embarrassing part is there are uneducated, below average looking, poor, 2nd rated Korean women who fall for their B.S. and marry them. Only to find out Americans don't treat them as well as they believed. However, these 2nd rated Korean women know they have been ostracized by the Korean society so they're stuck in an unhappy and sometimes abusive relationship. Even though I'm a Korean woman myself, these dirty, scuzbags deserve it for tarnishing Koreans and its beautiful culture.

    I need to reiterate on how American GI is portrayed both here in America and around the world. In America, military GI are mostly from poor working blue-collar class. At most, with only a high school education who can only find jobs working at a manufacturing assembly line, cashier at a gas stations or as a telemarketer/CSR, etc. In other words, jobs nobody want that pays minimum wage. These are highly undesirable men that even fat, ugly American women don't want to date. So what do these pathetic fools do? They prey on uneducated Korean women that still think America is a rich country where they can live like queens. They actually fall for the Hollywood MSM that all Americans are rich and free. Let this shallow whores marry these fools and let them learn from their mistakes. If you ever talk to them, they sound bitter and angry.

    Yes, America is on it's beginning stage of total collapse. There are many Americans who have lost their homes in foreclosure and have to live in tents. There are tent cities all over the U.S. Americans set up tents with their spouse and children who actually live in tents inside the area called tent cities. I don't know how and where they take showers/baths but you will see rows and rows of tents and little kids playing outside. It's comprised mostly of whites and black Americans. Now, let's jump to businesses. There are so many ghost malls in America. In any given shopping malls, you will see vacant malls all over the town. If there is a store inside these malls, then you will see mostly empty shelves whose owner is trying to get by with few merchandises. Ladies and gentlemen, the prediction is coming true. America will soon be a 3rd world country and will go down in history for being the 1st undeveloped nation. Hey, let's look at the bright side. At least it set a world record!!!

  • Vince
    10:35 pm on August 31st, 2010 208

    Thanks for paying for dinner AND the hotel room. Let's do it again sometime! :mrgreen:

  • K
    11:16 pm on August 31st, 2010 209

    "that women are supposed to be coy and kind and that it’s even better if [a potential marriage partner] is younger, pretty and knows how to cook,"

    I have a question. who should a man expect to feed and cook for his children when he's busy outside earning money, if not [a potential marriage partner]? McDonalds?

  • korean women
    11:17 pm on August 31st, 2010 210

    To Vince: Your comment doesn't make any sense. It's either you've been eating way too much GMO food which pulverized you into a bona fide retard or you just can't come up with a good comeback. I think it's BOTH. Try it again, fool!

  • Chirs In Dallas
    12:08 am on September 1st, 2010 211

    #207 "Another desperate, delusional American hoping to indoctrinate 2nd rated Korean women to date them instead of Korean men blah blah blah blah"

    First off, nice trolling trick with changing your name from Tom to Korean Women!

    Second, if foreigners were coming to America and taking all the hookers, farm girls and 7-11 cashiers back home with them, I would not care in the slightest. Certainly not enough to brew up a big three paragraph post over it. In short, it may be time to flush out your headgear.

  • korean women
    2:23 am on September 1st, 2010 212

    #211

    I don't know who Tom is but obviously someone is right on the mark about this issue as well. I guarantee you I am a Korean female. I am going to assume you're white since I have noticed creepy white guys have hard time accepting the fact that majority of Asian women prefer Asian men. Like I said, from my personal observance, it's only the 2nd rated, dependent Asian women go for creepy white men. All my Korean female friends who are highly educated, attractive and strong prefer and do marry Korean men.

    Maybe this Tom person is a Korean male trying to set you straight, but I promise you I am a Korean woman. Enough of that. I am starting to think that maybe Koreans do encourage 2nd rated, uneducated women to be "exported" to the U.S. by hooking up with GIs. Most likely these type of women won't benefit the society so less burden to hard working Koreans. Maybe you're right. Who knows? Seriously, creepy white dudes, stop believing the MSM where white men and Asian women are paired off together. Obviously your kind is carrying off the fantasy little too extreme. Even to a point where your kind is known as "CREEPY white guys". Good going.

    BTW, Chris in Dallas, which part of my "big three paragraphs" are you angry over? The fact that your kind only gets the low life or how America is today? Or both?

  • Ole 1st Tanker.
    8:13 am on September 1st, 2010 213

    Aren't native Okinawans the purest gened race in that region of the world? Japanese, Koreans, and Chinese all Muts in comparison.

    BTW the Philipines are metric so it would be 3 CM not inches.

  • Vince
    10:59 am on September 1st, 2010 214

    Korean Women is angry. I have seen the cycle. The fury of a woman scorned (or dumped). Yeah- you're having no fun now, had your heart broken by a big-nose, you thought he loved you but he was just having a good time.

    Next time, keep your knees together. The way you're coming off here isn't too dignified. If you're a nice lady, the big noses AND the Koreans will like you even if you don't give it out. Like most Korean parents, I guess they never got around to talking to you about secks 'cause it was just too embarrassing to talk about, and of course, if they didn't ever TALK about it, it wouldn't ever really happen!

    It would be funny if you obviously weren't hurting so bad.

  • Chris In Dallas
    11:35 am on September 1st, 2010 215

    #212 "BTW, Chris in Dallas, which part of my “big three paragraphs” are you angry over? The fact that your kind only gets the low life or how America is today? Or both?"

    Tom, what makes you think I'm angry?

    As to the first, it really doesn't bother me. And BTW, we don't exactly get just the "low lifes". I have friends who married college educated Korean girls. One (an Army Master Sergeant) married a girl with a degree from Yonsei.

    As to the second part, all I can say is I've heard the story before. When I was in elementary school people like yourself were convinced we were on the ropes and the Soviets would be dominant. Then it was the Arabs. By the time I was in college, Japan, Inc. was going to own America. Didn't happen in any of these instances. Now you folks say the Chinese will do us in. Who knows, maybe they will. But you know what? If they do, I get to sit back in the resource rich USA while you get to endure Chinese bondage!

  • korean women
    10:30 pm on September 1st, 2010 216

    I'm glad to see so many responses to my comments. Obviously I'm hurting some of you. Firstly, I have never dated a whitey and never will. I'm just not attracted to them. Their pasty white skin that looks like all the blood was sucked out of them with that funny pink glow isn't exactly the kind of color Asians are striving for.

    Do inform us the reader of this nonsense blog why you losers brag about dating/marrying Asian women, especially Japanese and Korean women. I don't see you low lives(it's not low lifes) bragging about dating/marrying Hispanics, Arabs, eastern Europeans, black women. Why is that? Could it be your white women are having sex with anything that walks, including animals? Did you just want to retaliate and use the most beautiful women to fill your emptiness? Like I mentioned before, go ahead and take these 2nd rated, rejected women and make them feel like a queen. The top quality Korean women will feel the same with Korean men. There, everything is settled!

    I'm positive you white losers are used to having top quality Korean women rejecting you. I hear hilarious stories. So why is it hard to believe I'm a Korean woman and not this Tom person? I can tell he is a non-white guy since you have so much anger towards him, where you are hallucinating everyone on here is Tom. Go get some help.

  • K
    11:12 pm on September 1st, 2010 217

    Korean Woman, can you cook food for me? Please, I need to feed my children…

  • Vince
    12:11 am on September 2nd, 2010 218

    Yeah- SHE got burned. That there's a woman who craves the c0hck bad- either that or it's really Tom.

  • Orbit
    12:15 am on September 2nd, 2010 219

    bleh this is stupid

  • korean women
    1:57 am on September 2nd, 2010 220

    This message is to all Korean men:

    Do you see how these losers that brag about dating/married to Korean women react to my comments? They're seriously in denial. It bothers them that they are only capable of hooking up with bunch of rejects and the highly desirable women find them revolting. I love every one of you Korean men who did an excellent job of putting these losers back in their places. Frankly, they're not worthy of my precious time nor the energy but nonetheless, we, top quality Korean women fully appreciate you and want to date only you.

    When America splits into 6 pieces where Asians and Hispanics take over the resource rich land then hopefully these losers would find jobs and stop humiliating themselves. Oh wait, they can't find jobs and that's why they join the military and sacrifice their body parts and souls for other nationalities to enjoy and prosper. Nice.

  • K
    9:15 am on September 2nd, 2010 221

    Sounds like Tom to me.

  • Typo
    9:20 am on September 2nd, 2010 222

    #220, when you are laying on your stomach with some guy coming up behind you I don't think it matters what class you are, I would bet that men dog you when they have sex with you to make you feel like a 2nd class citizen.

  • Leon LaPorte
    9:22 am on September 2nd, 2010 223

    Some serious racism in this thread. :shock:

  • ChickenHead
    11:42 am on September 2nd, 2010 224

    "but nonetheless, we, top quality Korean women"

    Top quality Korean women don't write or speak in this appallingly crass and venomous way… more fitting with the thoughts and words of a disrespected bar girl than an educated Korean lady from a good family… or even an average family.

    Top quality Korean women are confident in their, and Korea's, place in the world and have no need to angrily rant to faceless foreigners over trivial issues that have no affect on them.

    Top quality Korean women display poise and manners regardless of the situation… and, if they choose to express their negative views, it is done subtly yet effectively while maintaining their dignity.

    While Korean Woman makes some valid points, she does not approach it as a top quality Korean woman.

    She approaches it as an America of Korean descent.

    Although she is not dumb and has a reasonable education, she is a bit unhinged… and she has lost her way in the world and she is angry… and she is looking to blame others for her failures.

    So she has grasped out to the last resorts of ethnicity and foreign nationalism… hoping to emotionally rely on some semi-imaginary "heritage" as a crutch to give her an identity and feeling of inclusiveness that America's more ability-based system has not.

    And she doesn't realize that Korean girls, even second-rate ones, aren't marrying GIs much anymore.

    They have been replaced by fourth-rate Filipinas.

  • korean women
    2:38 pm on September 2nd, 2010 225

    Hey Chickenshit, who died and made you Dr. Freud? Are you guessing I'm American of Korean descent because of my English skills? Are you assuming I'm educated because I am racially aware and know the demise of America and the western society? You talk as if you have been screwed more than you wanted by a big fat black man.

    Truth hurts, huh? I do know white guys are frustrated with their fat, white woman going after black men. White guys want to show white women that they too can find someone. White guys realize the trophy Asian women find them appalling so to save face, they sweet talk the uneducated, 2nd rated women. Later on, they're confused that not all women find them desirable even though Hollywood told them so. They don't realize they're labeled as CREEPY white guys so they go on the internet repeating over and over again how Asian women like them. White guys don't want to accept reality that other race want them exterminated.

    On the part about how I'm trying to find my nationality or whatever the blabbering was about, it seems to me you already went through that and want others to join your misery. I bet you're unemployed and indeed feel the world is collapsing around you so you sit behind a computer sounding angry and bitter. Happy that a faceless woman acknowledges your sorry existence and wondering why in real life, women don't give you the time of the day.

    Couple days of corresponding with serious bunch of creepy losers is all I can take. You creepy white losers really do sound pathetic when you create sites as this. People are wondering why it's only the white guys going around bragging about AF/WM relationships. I feel embarrassed for you.

    I only responded because hey, as a Korean woman, I wanted to let you know how this Korean woman felt, along with majority of other Korean women. Like I said, couple days of retarded, dumbed-down, ugly, fat creepy albinos is all I'm willing to take.

    Ahn nyung, han-sim hahn nom deul.

  • K
    6:09 pm on September 2nd, 2010 226

    윗사람이 정신병자라고 느끼는 사람은 나 뿐일까…

  • ❧ღ☃.。.:*இ
    6:52 pm on September 2nd, 2010 227

    누구? korean women?

    Discovery gunman인 James Jay Lee가 될 징조가 훤하지. 벌써 진행 중인지도. 내가 하도 정신병자 글을 잘 알아봐서, 내 친구가 짜증난다고 내 머리털을 뽑아버리겠대. 3줄만 읽으면 알겠는데, 이 사람은 진단이 조금 어렵네. 그런데, 글쎄, 뭐랄까 사고의 틀이 천박하고 혐오스러워. 사람을 등급 나누기하고는 자기는 1등급이래. ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 에라, 미친 nyon이라고 말하고 싶지만, 나는 정확한 사람이므로, 진단을 미루겠음. ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

  • Vince
    9:38 pm on September 2nd, 2010 228

    Wow…. I think you need a big hug.

  • kushibo
    2:20 am on September 3rd, 2010 229

    은 그냥 트롤하는 남자 인가봐. 이 스레드 그만하자!

  • korean women
    8:59 pm on September 3rd, 2010 230

    지랄하고 잡빠졌네

  • Vince
    10:38 pm on September 3rd, 2010 231

    Hey! Wait a minute– I'm not fat!

  • suleman butt
    5:14 pm on September 23rd, 2010 232

    hi,i m looking for korean women for marriage.if intrested plz ask me more at gbuttg75@yahoo.com.

  • Vince
    8:23 pm on September 23rd, 2010 233

    Suleman- Korean Women sounds like she'd be a hell of a fun date- Give it a shot and let us know how it turns out!

    You might even get to attend one of her Bund rallies and REALLY yuk it up!

  • Wang
    8:35 pm on September 23rd, 2010 234

    Women Wanted

    I am single and hope to meet some women.

    Male, born in China in 1986.

    eMail wangtrao@gmail.com

  • ChickenHead
    12:08 am on September 24th, 2010 235

    Dear Sule Manbutt,

    "hi,i m looking for korean women for marriage."

    I'm very sorry to inform you that Korea frowns upon marrying "korean women". As a society where polygamy is illegal, it is better you look for just one Korean woman to marry.

    If you can be satisfied with a single Korean woman for marriage, I think you have come to the right place.

    There is a Korean woman who is single and could probably use a good husband.

    I'm sure she would be your biggest fan.

    http://www.millionface.com/l/cosmetic-surgery-add

  • ChickenHead
    12:21 am on September 24th, 2010 236

    Wang,

    With a name like that, you should have no trouble meeting women.

    The only thing better would be Long Wang.

    I've introduce a number of girls to Long Wang and they have mostly left satisfied.

    They like Qix Tong and Fo Pu Rae, too.

  • K
    1:28 am on September 24th, 2010 237

    Wang should probably enroll himself in Sejong University, there will be no shortage of maids of honor who want to hook with him.

  • Spencer
    9:56 am on February 1st, 2011 238

    I have read the whole (Erhemm!) forum. I'm a South East Asian male btw.. I mean.. although times have changed, there are countless things for me to worry about :L 1)Language barrier 2)Discrimation from other foreigners and Koreans(cause I'm South-East Asian and have darker skin than Koreans) 3)Social codes (SHould not be a proble for me) 4)different culture 5)Rough and mean competition. (Any mixed ethnicity with Koreans) :LL I have health issues too.. and that completely lowers my chance of even talking to a Korean woman. I'm not sure if anyone will put themselves in my shoes..

  • Spencer
    10:03 am on February 1st, 2011 239

    Sorry everyone, I'm tired lol. *Should, problem, discrimination. I typed these words wrongly. :!:

  • Spencer
    10:37 am on February 1st, 2011 240

    Hey "Korean Woman". I believe you are not "Tom" who people are saying you are. I feel out of place when there is so much competition, not because I'm a loser, but the fact that I always dream of the impossible, thinking that it would come true someday with me working hard towards my goal.

    To all the bloggers out there "Too much blogging and politics of a subject can become an obssession.

  • troller
    9:10 pm on February 1st, 2011 241

    # Sonagi

    2:30 am on May 6th, 2010 36

    Korean men are now embracing plastic surgery, so they’re catching up fast. :grin:

    ___________________________________

    Sonagi must have inferiority complex about her appearance. She always groans about appearance of Korean women. To her, every pretty Korean woman has gone through plastic surgery.

    ___________________________________

    ___________________________________

    # archieb

    4:28 am on May 6th, 2010 37

    But the Korean men who have plastic surgery are usually interested in other Korean men.

    ___________________________________

    archieb is partly true. MOST Korean men are homos.

    ___________________________________

    ___________________________________

    Sonagi

    5:56 pm on May 6th, 2010 56

    Wrong. Plastic surgery was starting to catch on among professors at the university where I used to work, and I know at least one of them was heterosezual because he hit on all the single foreign female teachers under 35 years old and under 130 pounds, including one with a ROK Army Ranger boyfriend. Bad move.

    ___________________________________

    He was trying to hide his homosexuality. I saw many of those men.

    ___________________________________

    ___________________________________

    Retired GI

    6:32 am on May 8th, 2010 115

    I didn’t enjoy the company of these. I much prefered those attending college.

    They thought I was so cute when I would attempt to speak my Konglish and happy to give instruction. I was also impressed when they would pay for the meals and hotel rooms.

    ___________________________________

    Cannot buy you. Did you buy their words that they were attending college? Giggle. If they had been true, I were you mom.

    Anyway, happy to hear that Korean women paid for the meals and hotel rooms. The person who did not pay for the hotel room cannot have paid for the sex. So, the Korean women you met didn't do any prostitution. You cannot expect those things from Southeastern women. Good Korean women.

    ___________________________________

    ___________________________________

    UpUpandAway: So creepy a male as Tom. Two losers.

    ___________________________________

    Why do ordinary Southeastern young women marry old Korean men?

    They could have 10 or more years of prostitution or quasi-prostitution industry by their 20s. To be married to foreigners is a good way to hide their dirty past. in addition, Korean males are willing to pay for all the cost and give money to the original families of the women, though the party who pay should be the women who have had the past to be hidden. Or disease. No men burden the bride with disease, but Korean males are willing to do so.

    It's the same to Korean women who marry Western men. Do substitution to your case.

  • Tom
    11:14 pm on February 1st, 2011 242

    Let's be honest here. White guys like to flirt with women. A fat white guy with an over-driven ego will get shot down a thousand times, but there is that one tenth of a percent of chance that he will succeed with another loser. It's all about chances.

    Asians on the other hand, do not look favorably upon approaching total strangers and ask for a phone number. But like spam emails, you may end up fooling a couple of people out of a thousand. But as America and the West continue to fail and stumble economically, the chances of women going for the Western men will go down proportionally. Accept it or not, it's money and power that drives women's motives – something that West increasingly don't have. It's the Asian century, and we are beginning to see more and more Western women who want to date Asian men. Western men controlling Hollywood to put a lid on that won't soon make much of a difference anymore.

  • roko
    1:29 am on February 2nd, 2011 243

    jesus,tom,and korean women users,i am european,i dont hate anyone,and i love korea most,and i speak better korean than you,although you are korean,i think its you tom,it is sad,personally,it aint america who did you damage as government,it is england,as english is spoken everywhere,not american,america tried to spread globalization,as a end of it should be love,and no wars or bounds anywhere,now since there are crazy people like you in korea,and some western as governments,i personally guarantee you,there is soo many of koreans in government liking any crime,they do it for money,and white people governments too,just dont blame anyone,make love,if u can,or watch porno,world shall be without bonds and will be,who the hell cares which race marries which,i dont,i guess u do,am sorry for koreans and america,england should be flagged for this and government.cheers to all.

  • utg
    2:24 am on February 2nd, 2011 244

    Here's "Korean Women"…doh, it's Tom!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7-2ura5Nbs

  • PubicEnema
    3:04 am on February 2nd, 2011 245

    Why the hell would foreigners want korean women?! Not that there is anything wrong with that I guess, I just don't understand the appeal. This is esspecially true when you have to deal with Korean men.

    Is it true that Korean women are more likely to marry outside their enthnic group than women of other Asian ethinc groups?

    If this is so, perhaps TinyMemberTom can tell us why.

  • roko
    5:22 am on February 2nd, 2011 246

    could you all cut selling crap,rage kiddos,leave korean people alone,korean woman,as any woman or human being,has a right to choose whats or whos good for her,who she feels happy with,same goes for korean men,they are much better men than many white guys,apparently,many trolls gotta appear at here and troll,its lame,it aint the race,its the people,the freakin love,or lust,depends on what one wants,and korean women aint only one doin that,there are more japanese or chinese,thai indonesian viet marrying to white people.like,why the hell u troll anyone,especially korean women,jeez,get a life and doctor fools.

  • Utg
    5:45 am on February 2nd, 2011 247

    Roko. You lost me there; death by commas.

  • Zilchy
    7:23 am on February 2nd, 2011 248

    #235 ChickenHead,

    I love the last sentence of the article linked – " Ms. X says she wants her looks back" :shock:

    I just can't understand why? :shock:

  • Marcus Ambrose
    8:21 am on February 2nd, 2011 249

    OMG Tom, you are such a liar. I have been in the Korean clubs and I have seen the guys at a table tell the waiter to bring over some girls from another table, and they literally just grab the girls and drag them over.

    Maybe I missed the point: they didn't approach a total stranger for a phone number, they just drag a girl over against her will and make her sit down. Much better.

    Really dude, live in the real world.

  • someotherguy
    9:37 am on February 2nd, 2011 250

    Don't feed the trolls!

    Many of the posts on this page are by the same person / people just using different names and styles to give the illusion of agreement. As the world turns.

  • Glans
    11:35 am on February 2nd, 2011 251

    GI Korea said, "Regardless I can’t wait to read what commenter Tom has to say about this." I wish I had known that when I was trying to explain to Kushibo that GI Korea considered Tom an asset to the ROK Drop.

  • jas
    3:29 am on May 22nd, 2011 252

    So married a Korean woman is like having a slave in the western world. The Korean women still got no idea if she want to be free or a slave.

  • Liz
    4:08 am on May 22nd, 2011 253

    #236: For most Asia men, said name would be false advertisement. And it does matter.

    The reason some Asian women are looking towards the west. A manifest destiny of sorts.

  • Tom
    4:09 am on May 22nd, 2011 254

    The divorce rate of Korean women and White men are much higher than Korean on Korean marriages.

  • Tom
    4:50 am on May 22nd, 2011 255

    Why do White guys like to brag so much about about their few trophy women? :roll:

  • setnaffa
    5:30 am on May 22nd, 2011 256

    Well, we can clearly see the Chinese guy still can’t get the counseling he needs, even in Canada where it’s supposed to be free… :roll:

  • Tom
    6:55 am on May 22nd, 2011 257

    Setnaffa, I am no longer in Canada, as I’ve finished my goals. And I’m South Korean from South Korea. GI Korea can check my location if he wants to, and he will verify that.

    :lol:

  • ChickenHead
    7:12 am on May 22nd, 2011 258

    Test. My post is here but is missing from the recent post list.

  • Avatar of USinKoreaUSinKorea
    7:41 am on May 22nd, 2011 259

    #257 See, Tom, the problem with the Internet and someone proven somewhat untrustworthy in the past is, you can fake stuff.

    I took you up on your offer though I knew its worth would be somewhat questionable.

    The IP of this comment shows SK. A google of the address pulled up this message:

    The Project Honey Pot system has detected behavior from the IP address consistent with that of a comment spammer. Below we’ve reported some other data associated with this IP. This interrelated data helps map spammers’ networks and aids in law enforcement efforts.

    It is also listed as a free proxy.

    Lastly, for a comment just a couple of days earlier, the IP is in Canada – just as it has been for years…

  • Avatar of USinKoreaUSinKorea
    7:52 am on May 22nd, 2011 260

    For the record, I believe Tom is ethnically Korean (not Chinese). I think I found a picture of him once from his KATUSA days.

  • ChickenHead
    7:53 am on May 22nd, 2011 261

    Jaz,

    “So married a Korean woman is like having a slave in the western world.”

    I don’t know what decade you are living in… but none of the Korean women in my acceptable age range will tolerate being treated like a slave.

    This isn’t to say they won’t work hard to do their part in taking care of the family… but they will require the same of their husbands… including taking his paycheck. And if he doesn’t do his part, the lashes (of the tongue) will be worse than any slave ever got… double if there are children.

    Korean (Asian?) women have not been sold on the idea that being equal to a man means being the same as a man. To an outsider, taking care of children, cooking dinner, and doing all the housework for a day or two while the men drink during holidays, seems like “slavery”… but it neglects to notice that the husband works long hours in a crappy job for a demanding boss in a slave-driving company 6 days a week and then requires drinking sessions with friends and co-workers if he wants to have any chance of promotion… although that aspect of Korean culture is changing for the better.

    Both of these duties are important to the success of the family… something the last generation or so of American feminists have forgotten as they pursued “careers” while letting the TV and demanding the school raise their children.

    And one other thing. A Korean (Asian) wife will not dishonor her family and “spit on her own face” by arguing or disrespecting her husband in public… although once the setting is private, he will get the full force of her anger… and maybe a shoe.

    The public behavior of meek acceptance, though, looks like slavery to those who are used to their big, loud American princesses yelling and cursing in public while the man lowers his head and hopes nobody recognizes him.

    I have seen that shyt a couple of time around military bases. Once at Pyongtaek Station, some poor GI was being yelled at by his double-sized wife. I watched for a few minutes and determined that she was just a loud, crazy biitch. I started saying, “Don’t take that shyt! Smack her! C’monm, man, don’t be a wuss. You can probably take her. Dude, next time, get an Asian wife!”

    It has to be an over-active imagination… but in my memory I swear I saw steam come out of her ears and I’m sure I heard a train whistle.

    The locals were quite amused.

    Liz,

    In Asia, size doesn’t matter… except the size of the car, the size of the apartment, and the size of the bank account.

    With generally fewer sexual partners, my impression is that Asian women aren’t “all about the diick”… or, apart from bar girls, they don’t have the diick fetish that American girls will sit around and talk trash about.

    I might also add that most Asian women are tighter than American women… possible due to their generally smaller size? Fewer partners? Saller size of their partners?

    …or maybe I just get harder with a sweet and slinky Asian girl in a miniskirt than a big loud American cow in comfortable shoes yapping about how much she likes a big diick.

    Asian women “looking to the West” is a terrible generalization. Less social obligation, a much nicer house and a softer education system for children might motivate a Korean… while escape from crippling poverty and a boost to alpha female among 130 cripplingly-poor cousins who are fighting to split the $150 she can send every month might motivate a Filipina.

    Tom,

    “The divorce rate of Korean women and White men are much higher than Korean on Korean marriages.”

    If that is true, and it likely is, it is because many of the marriages are between loser GI/teachers and loser bargirls/skanks/etc. This is not exactly a random sampling.

    A Korea-clueless GI on a one-year tour finding a Korean wife in a GI bar district isn’t exactly a recipe for guaranteed success. The same goes for “teachers” who often meet their future wives in the foreigner bar scene.

    Some of these do work, though… and some are a math between a good guy and a good girl who hit it off.

    “Why do White guys like to brag so much about about their few trophy women?”

    For the same reasons my Korean friends give me an ear-full after a trip to Russia, China, or SE Asia… especially Russia…

    …’cause it is special and fun and exotic… and is even better if you share it with someone who can understand.

    If you ever manage to trick a Canadian girl into sleeping with you, it will all be clear.

  • roko
    8:37 am on May 22nd, 2011 262

    you are still talking over and over,utg,sorry for losing the point,i didnt wanna,just wanted to tell everyone to relax,not all is black and white,and it takes two for tango.wish you the best,utg and to all,tom and korean woman user,there are many women in the world,youll find yours,hopefully pamela anderson or hot white blond so u wont be feelin bad for korean gals and foreigners,love to all,make love not war.

  • kushibo
    1:05 pm on May 22nd, 2011 263

    The Project Honey Pot system has detected behavior from the IP address consistent with that of a comment spammer. Below we’ve reported some other data associated with this IP. This interrelated data helps map spammers’ networks and aids in law enforcement efforts.

    It is also listed as a free proxy.

    :lol: :lol: :lol:

    So Tom used a comment-spamming proxy service to pretend he’s in South Korea when he’s actually still in Toronto (which I can attest to as well)? :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • roko
    1:27 pm on May 22nd, 2011 264

    kushiro,hey,your pic is cute,is it you?hehe,just joke.like i said,make love,not a war,for christ,we aint gonna disobey john lennon,are we.

  • kangaji
    4:04 pm on May 22nd, 2011 265

    ROKO – John Lennon had some great ideas, but there’s too many people around thae world that would kill for a job right now.

  • roko
    12:09 am on May 23rd, 2011 266

    you are right,but that sucks,kill for the sake of money,to take away life just like that,change is needed,if only more people would agree on some.

  • roko
    12:29 am on May 23rd, 2011 267

    if anyone asked me,i would wanna everyone in the world to have same chances of success,all the same,but it aint like this,hardly someone would change it,so lets unite all,that would be better idea,high five and lets go.anyone in?

  • ChickenHead
    12:49 am on May 23rd, 2011 268

    Congratulations, Roko.

    You have come very close to passing the Turing test.

    Please place yourself off-line and wait for an algorithm modification.

  • roko
    1:00 am on May 23rd, 2011 269

    chicken head,i didnt mean any bad,am trying something out,is it bad?oo,is it bad wantin to see everyone livin in peace?are you in,soldier?hehe.

  • ㅋㅋㅋ
    1:57 am on May 23rd, 2011 270

    http://www.hani.co.kr/arti/society/women/468803.html

    Trophy? Puhahahaha.
    I heard that Korean women married to US Army men were ex-prostitutes. And the army men who met their spouse at brothels were also losers in US. Good association between losers and losers.

  • ㅋㅋㅋ
    2:06 am on May 23rd, 2011 271

    Sorry. “are ex-prostitutes.”
    ㅋㅋ

  • roko
    2:07 am on May 23rd, 2011 272

    well,now,you remind me of tom,and i think you taken this too far,as i nor those other white guys think of you,and korean men as losers,i can take it,but talking about women that way,please dont,it is just human relations,and they choose who to love,not even God and nor we do,it just happens,you will meet someone you love,hopefully,if you change,but like this you wont,dont take it too personal,for you aint korean women master,they are free,as any woman or human should be to choose their life partner,so,dont be angry,for you aint gonna change anything,and it is bettert this way as it is,cuz if u look at the wider picture,in the end,there will be peace,there are very few bording lines even now,countries,and world became home for everyone,cuz everything is possible,and you wont stop it or change it,or not allow someone,korean women and foreign guys to love each other,have a nice day,and think a little bit before posting another one,and taking it this way,tom,have a good day.

  • roko
    2:09 am on May 23rd, 2011 273

    chicken head,you can thank me later,by treating me a drink in pasadena,or in busan,korea.have a nice day.

  • ChickenHead
    2:10 am on May 23rd, 2011 274

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  • roko
    2:11 am on May 23rd, 2011 275

    umm,chicken head,you wanna kill me by numbers?what are these?oo

  • ChickenHead
    2:15 am on May 23rd, 2011 276

    Binary system. Find the answer for yourself.

  • roko
    2:16 am on May 23rd, 2011 277

    well,there you go again,man,sry,kiddo,ok,i think your one of those korean guys who love k pop,wear pink bags,or one of those who got used to order a woman around a house and tell her what to do,those times are way far now,i do not find offended by you,and i understand how you feel when you see pamela andesron on tv,and you cant have her,dont worry,you maybe get a paris hilton,apply to be her bff,you maybe make it,this is lame by now,but seriously,meet paris,and try bein her bff,it could suit you more than insulting guys foreign ones,and especially women,and for now,i suggest you to bursh wyour teeth,go to sleep,and dream about how a real man should be,you can make it at least in dreams,have a good day,say hi to paris for me.

  • roko
    2:18 am on May 23rd, 2011 278

    brush your teeeth,sorry for horrible spelling.

  • roko
    2:20 am on May 23rd, 2011 279

    chicken head,ok,i guess i should not comment on this site for i dont know nor i wanna to fight anyone,have a nice day,thanks for non explaining.

  • ㅠㅠ
    2:26 am on May 23rd, 2011 280

    http://blog.naver.com/handjob69

    But, what they said is not true. The Christian priest are making lies to get donations from the good. They have always lied for their own profit.
    In fact, all Korean men are gays. Many men cannot convince their homosexuality to themselves, and they relieve their inner conflicts by blaming Korean women, with hiding their homosexuality. Cursed Korean women, in return, seek for foreign males.

  • ChickenHead
    2:28 am on May 23rd, 2011 281

    ROKO is finally mad. Giggle.

  • roko
    2:38 am on May 23rd, 2011 282

    no,i am not,i am just thinking about not commenting anymore on here,cuz its pretty useless.have fun.make love not war.

  • roko
    2:43 am on May 23rd, 2011 283

    seems like not only famous mr.Tom has problems of bothering other people lives,some cant get what they want at home,they cant be understood,i got it,white girls are like cows,ill switch off from here,cuz seems Tom aint only one havin problems,and bein a problem and nuissance.have fun.

  • ChickenHead
    2:45 am on May 23rd, 2011 284

    You pour your anger here, and then say “no”, “make love”. What a hypocrite.

  • roko
    2:51 am on May 23rd, 2011 285

    and chicken head,i am not mad at all,i dont take anyone too serious,so dont worry on me,you should rather worry your self and your sayings like white girls are like cows,seems Tom aint only one havin big problems,is he,chicken head,before throwing a comment next time,first think,are you one that should do it,as your not much of a clear with yourself,aka,not far from tom,so should i be wandering are you tom as well?like some other white people in her,should i?no i shouldnt,first,cuz i love the whole world,any gals,not just havineyes on korean ones,as i aint married to korean woman in a first place,world is more wider than just your rash talk or one of toms,if you aint him,relax,be happy,dont be bothered by answering,rather call your parents in usa,and talk to a white girl,it will help you become bigger,and not limited on race and claimings you hold up for white girls,like some others in here do too,like they are cows,if they are cows,what could you be.ask yourself and do affirmations,get a notebook,and write i am happy person,i deserve to be happy,and so it shall be,man,am goin off now,think about and dont rush too fast next time.

  • Hmm
    2:59 am on May 23rd, 2011 286

    ROKO, are you drunken now?
    You don’t seem to be yourself. Call other’ help.

  • roko
    3:01 am on May 23rd, 2011 287

    amazing,thing,this nternet stuff,about seeing where other people come from and trace their ip,hm,chicken head,ggg,tom are same person,good job,yes,i am drunk,but i still see how and what you boys right,get a doctor,and stop faking with more names.its lame.

  • Glans
    3:59 am on May 23rd, 2011 288

    kushibo 263, did you see that USinKorea 260 thinks Tom is ethnically Korean. What do you think?

  • Avatar of USinKoreaUSinKorea
    4:07 am on May 23rd, 2011 289

    Proxier — My guess is Tom has discovered proxies. The last few comments listed for Chickenhead are not from his (usual) Korea IP and are out of Malaysia. Roko is out of Croatia.

    I went back a few weeks, and Chickenhead comes up on two IPs but all in Korea.

    So, someone is trolling.

  • Liz
    4:15 am on May 23rd, 2011 290

    Chickenhead: You think fewer sex partners makes the difference in perception? Actually all it takes is one.

  • kangaji
    4:53 am on May 23rd, 2011 291

    Roko is alright.

  • Jeff Fisher
    7:22 am on May 23rd, 2011 292

    Chickenhead# 261: I’ve been married to a Korean for 30 years. My circle of friends at the assignments I have
    had throughout the U.S., and my 7 years in Korea have been and are now predominately Americans with Korean wives. Everything you said in your comment coincides with my experiences and observations. This subject has been of interest to me for many years. Your contrast of the differences between Korean/American wives is spot on as well in my opinion. I was a Career Counselor for 9 years. Got chummy with a lot of guys, got to know them on a somewhat personal basis once in a while. Gave me an insight to their personal lives. Of those that I know
    married to Koreans and have made a lasting go of it have
    become become financially successful (in my case VERY well
    off) mostly because of the Asian wives management and
    dogged persistence in general family decisions. Used to
    piss me off but following her advice turned out to be the
    way that paid off in the long run. Just got back from
    a visit to Korea. Can not believe the changes since I was
    there 3 years ago. Amazing progress on all fronts. I was
    first there in 64′and have a clear point of reference to
    make that statement. jfisher1946@gmail.com

  • roko
    8:23 am on May 23rd, 2011 293

    us in korea,thank you,but i am not tom,and i never said that i am or were in korea now nor that i am korean,i been to korea in 2010 last time,now i am hone working hard,kangaji thanks for compliment,am trying to be good,chicken may be stand for tom,hope that this fight ends at once,there are good people and bad people everywhere,we should protect women of any race,korean in this case,because they are life bringers,however they are,they still have a harder life and society run by male part,and have got less chance to have a good life than their male counter,i propose peace from here,because we wont live without each other,nor white men without korean men,nor vice versa,we all need each other,so since we made it this far in trying to make a world with no bounds,lets go on,lets at least try,raise hands please whos in.wish you all best life,hapiness and hope for better togethers tomorrow in which our kids will be born happy seeing new world that will be built by all of us together.anyone interested?

  • ChickenHead
    9:02 am on May 23rd, 2011 294

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  • roko
    11:53 am on May 24th, 2011 295

    anyone in?lets make this world a better place,anyone in?

  • Jeff Fisher
    3:53 pm on May 24th, 2011 296

    ROKO #293: You are living in a dream world my friend. The
    “Can’t we all get along” stuff can make you feel warm and
    fuzzy if you wish to fantasize about such notions but
    beyond that it is ridiculous. What planet are you on?

  • gargantuan nosed honky
    1:08 pm on June 1st, 2011 297

    To my brothers who brag about marrying Asian women:
    They’re nothing but prostitutes who suck small pink Mr. Willy for a living. Most of them couldn’t get any decent Korean men so they whored around military bases wanting to get hitched. I heard since America has collapsed that they’re giving up on my GI brothers. Heck, if we can’t win any wars since 1812, why fight ‘em? We’re losers, no?

  • roko
    2:57 pm on June 1st, 2011 298

    gargantua may be tom,anyone else thinks so?

  • Insight 3: The Best Way to Date Korean Women is to Find where the Koreans are | Learn how to Date Korean Women
    2:21 am on September 14th, 2011 299

    [...] it won't be so good. So good luck finding your 'watering' hole and then date Korean women. Where do you find Korean women to date Korean women Hint, its where the other koreans are. Its like …n is where to date korean women" title="korea town is where to date korean women" width="448" [...]

  • kor-amer
    5:18 pm on November 7th, 2012 300

    U Yankee GI bitches gotta go. I had mad respect for u guys for helping out in the Korean war, but now ur just causing trouble in another person’s country. and the only reason y u guys r there is to secure a strategic military location for the US. protection against N Korea? Bitch please we are in the top 10 military rankings in the world. N Korea can’t even feed their people. GET UR PUNK ASS HOME!

  • Brad
    6:17 pm on November 7th, 2012 301

    From the article, one can infer that Korean women who enjoy inter-racial relationship want to justify their actions by putting down Korean men as somewhat of Neanderthals – cave men.

    Korean women who date inter-racially are worldly and well-educated as opposed to Korean men who are still stuck in their Stone Age mentality.

    I don’t know if I would appreciate American women that go around trashing American men to justify their inter-racial relationship with Asian, Black, or Latino men.

  • Tom
    7:40 pm on November 7th, 2012 302

    And yet more Korean men marry foreigners, than the Korean women marrying foreign men. The gap is like ten to one. The total Korean on foreigner marriages per year is 20,000. But about 17,000 of them are Korean men on foreign women marriages. But only about 3000 Koreans marry foreign men. And what nationality has the biggest portion of Koreawn women on foreign husbands? It’s the Chinese. Most probably Chosunjok ethnic Koreans from China. Then come Americans, but I’m pretty sure at leat over a half are with Korean American men. The Korean women on white husbands is actually very very low insignificant number. So sorry dissapoint the chest thumping baboons here who think they are Tarzan. :lol: The reality is, you’re not getting that many Korean women. The title of the article is wrong. It should say “More Korean women don’t mind marrying foreign men”. But it’s not the same as the false claim that Korean women are desperate for foreign men, as lot of the white guys are claiming. :lol:

  • Setnaffa
    9:06 pm on November 7th, 2012 303

    “The reality is, you’re not getting that many Korean women.”

    But maybe more than you? :mrgreen:

    Seriously though, if a man can’t satisfy one woman and keep her that way (meaning you need to do more than perform voluntary body functions), having many must just prove he’s not really a man…

    Regardless of National Origin, suntan, veteran status, or size of bank account…

  • Brad
    11:32 pm on November 7th, 2012 304

    In spite of what Tom says, reality is that more Korean women are turning to “white” guys for their affection, comfort, love, and that thing they do in private.

    It is obvious that some segment of Korean women realize that non-Korean men provide what they need. It isn’t matter of how many Korean men or women marry outside their race.

    Maybe some Korean women do like bigger sausages. ;-)

    Since average height of “white” guys that Tom mentions is taller than that of Korean men, it is quite likely that an average length and thickness of non-Korean sausage is that much larger and thicker.

    I believe Korean women do like bigger dongs that you might realize Tom. Korean men just don’t know because their women don’t tell them that Korean men’s size is insufficient. Korean women wouldn’t because they don’t want to be seen as loose women interested in male anatomy.

    Korean women who meet men outside of their race might be more liberated in that sense.

  • Brad
    11:35 pm on November 7th, 2012 305

    Also, if I may mention, there maybe only “3,000″ inter-racial marriages by Korean women, but there may be many many more Korean women who date Western men.

    I believe there are many Korean women with happy lovey dovey & content faces, arm in arm with Western men walking on the streets of South Korea and abroad.

  • Leon LaPorte
    11:49 pm on November 7th, 2012 306
  • Baek In-je
    2:52 am on November 8th, 2012 307

    Fact: Women prefer a man with a normal-sized penis. Sorry Korean guys; seems you guys are last again.
    Fact: Women in general like being treated as equals.
    Fact: They will not become family slaves every holiday. Ever been to a Korean extended family’s holiday? Ajummas in the kitchen, ajosshis in the living room (getting waited on hand and foot).
    Fact: Western guys are interesting and funny. Ever met an interesting Korean guy? Yes, me too. It was in 1998. Been a drought since then.

  • Toni
    9:03 am on February 4th, 2013 308

    My 2cents:
    From what I’ve read in the media, many Korean women who migrate to Western countries,do it for “economic reasons” or are too bored with the “crazy Korean traditions” as the women themselves described it. Many of them confess to have been human trafficked by their Korean pimps,and human traffickers(including male and female)and not by western traffickers! Many Korean women prefer to immigrate to Japan,Australia and the USA,with a few going as far as Europe,South and even Central America. Many of these women confess to being prostitutes looking for better business,but many are doing it for cultural exchanges and opportunities abroad.

  • Roko
    1:31 pm on February 4th, 2013 309

    You are all so pathetic,kicking race stuff around and around.And my White folks think they have a bigger censored?Could be,but sadly the brains,respect towards other humans and the ugly kid they bring mixing up,its just not so attractive anymore,is it?Plus,whenever I think of:*Lets have a chat about me guy*I always have a picture that guy is my Western fellow,and sadly again,it is.Partly you are right about the society stuff of South Korea and foundation it lays on,but lets have a look at Western nations,the USA and the rest of folks.One big cheeseburger shaped LOL.I did not hear has everyone of CIA guys gone extinct?Running out of fresh cheeseburger and Texas ranger ideas back home,so this time you would play a world cops?Or Misters know it all.One big cheeseburger for all Westerners here and many of you are,and for a home run league talking bad of Korean girls,but its good to know,you know how they say,there is a lot of talks after the good horse,the one that gallops ahead of others.All of you here,the male population.Westernbuybrain Inc are just a mere pack of trolls.

  • Antony
    8:37 pm on August 22nd, 2013 310

    What ,I have lived for 20 years besides Korean town in Toronto on Bloor Str. Korean women from South Korean behave very snotty and stuck up here in Korean town . Korean men in general are very bossy and the women too .Very hard to deal with . To proud . Korean women who are born here is different story . Good people ,clean ,honest, women are open minded .

  • ripvanwinkle
    3:31 pm on September 25th, 2013 311

    MAJ America it is not true that good looking Korean women won’t marry foreign men. I married one and I have had plenty of guys say how beautiful they think she is not to mention guys hitting on her. I didn’t meet her there we met here. I also have friends who married Korean girls and a few of them are very pretty girls, way above average. I also saw some very beautiful girls in Korea marry GI’s when I served over there. Every country has beautiful women and I saw many in Korea that were married to foreigners.

  • WALT
    9:17 pm on October 17th, 2013 312

    Holy crap at the racism/generalizing in here. :shock:

    Oh and @Typo
    You’re exaggerating. The average height of Korean men is 5′ 9″ while the average height of Korean women is 5′ 4″. Hardly qualifies as “shorter.”
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height#Average_height_around_the_world

  • Smokes
    11:31 pm on October 17th, 2013 313

    ChickenHead at #274 in binary said:
    “Nice try, Roko. Good association. Work on format. Dedicated or parasitic? Hardware requirements? Answer in hex.”

    Later at #294 in hex ChickenHead said:
    “Perhaps I was wrong. You aren’t a heavy AI. You are just an idiot. Too bad.??”

    So ChickenHead, maybe you know this one?:
    Guvf bar vf xvaq bs rnfl ohg zbfg crbcyr sbetrg nobhg vg be arire rapbhagrerq vg nf vg jnf znvayl hfrq ba arjftebhcf. Nyfb, Gbz vf tnl. :)

  • ChickenHead
    12:00 am on October 18th, 2013 314

    Come on, Smokes.

    Guvf bar vf xvaq bs rnfl ohg zbfg crbcyr sbetrg nobhg vg be arire rapbhagrerq vg nf vg jnf znvayl hfrq ba arjftebhcf. Nyfb, Gbz vf tnl.

    ROT-13 Caesar cipher… the textbook case of weak encryption… as clear to read as unencrypted English with a few hours of practice. The key to immediate recognition is: n, vf, vg, bs, be.

    “This one is kind of easy but most people forget about it or never encountered it as it was mainly used on newsgroups. Also, Tom is gay.”

    That will be the end of my decryption demonstrations… as I can see the weekend becoming substantially less productive on things I need to get done if I am obsessive-compulsively chasing big-boy encryption.

  • Smokes
    12:22 am on October 18th, 2013 315

    I was giong to go wtih Tyopgylicma ecxept thta’s sitll getntig cicrualted in eamlis eevry so ofetn so poeple sitll reembmer it. Wlel taht and it’s relaly not a from of enrcpytoin.

    I’m otuta hree for the wekened, evreoyne hvae a good one.

 

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