By The often debated curfew issue here at the ROK Drop is now going to be officially ended on Friday:
Saying “there is no reason to have a curfew,” the commander of U.S. troops in South Korea will end an almost 9-year-old curfew on the peninsula Friday, the start of Fourth of July weekend.
“I believe that we can trust our servicemembers to do the right thing,” U.S. Forces Korea commander Gen. Walter Sharp said in an interview Monday. “I personally believe in personal responsibility and making that the top thing that we do with our servicemembers, rather than trying to impose restrictions on them because of the acts of very, very few.”
Local commanders will be allowed to impose temporary curfews but must get his approval to do so, Sharp said.
A nighttime off-limits ban will continue for Hongdae entertainment district in Seoul near several universities, although Sharp said a review to possibly rescind the ban is under way. The 9 p.m.-to-5 a.m. ban on Hongdae has been in place since 2007, after a servicemember raped a 67-year-old woman there.
Troops are required to be indoors from 3 a.m. to 5 a.m. on Saturdays, Sundays and U.S. holidays and from midnight to 5 a.m. on weekdays. Sharp relaxed the previous 1-5 a.m. weekend curfew in August 2008, two months after assuming command of USFK.
The South Korea curfew was put in place in the days after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, when U.S. bases worldwide set curfews. Even though most bases lifted their restrictions, commanders in South Korea never fully rescinded it, citing force-protection concerns in a country bordering a belligerent North Korea. [Stars & Stripes]
You can read more at the link.
I think it is great that the curfew was lifted, but what will happen if a rape of a Korean national happens late at night that draws massive negative publicity, will General Sharp reimpose the curfew? If so, then why repeal the curfew in the first place? In my opinion, if you lift the curfew then senior leaders need to be prepared to take the heat when a serious crime happens instead of just reflexively reimposing a curfew. It will be interesting to see if incidents increase or not with the lifting of the curfew.
2:40 pm on June 29th, 2010 1
Treat adults like adults, men like men, and hold them individually accountable for their actions.
2:40 pm on June 29th, 2010 2
Sorry, but it's INSANE to lift the curfew. Don't these leaders realize now what these slime-ball Human Traffickers (bars/clubs) are going to do to take advantage of this? The sleazebars will never close because they'll be afraid that the sleazeclub next to them is making more than them.
Also add in the fact that the young GI's are already out of control and you get a PERFECT STORM of High Octane Alcohol driven Assaults, Thefts, Sexual deviance, and a potpourri of other serious crimes.
Thankfully, it won't be long before a serious enough crime happens to cause them to re-institute the curfew. It might just be 4th of July weekend lol!
2:43 pm on June 29th, 2010 3
Archer, unfortunately we're not dealing with adults. We're dealing with low class, out of control young GI's who dress like they just got out of a trailer park or the ghetto.
Add the disgusting villes with hundreds of sleazeclubs right outside the post and you get ARMAGEDDON. Guaranteed.
3:00 pm on June 29th, 2010 4
What's the difference? When the curfew changed to 03:00 many GI's still went in around 01:00. There are a great number of GI's who like to stay out late and never get in trouble. They just like to drink and hang out. There will always be trouble makers. Get over it. It's a leadership issue.
Why not have curfews all over the Army if it's such a good idea? Gen LaPorte, my namesake, who used the US constitution as toilet paper was a big proponent of the curfew (I enjoy making his name worthless, he should be UNDER the jail – traitor). As an evangelical asslicker, he was no better than the Taliban. On the other hand, many Korean club owners like the 01:00 curfew cause they could take the money and run… The really greedy ones are going to have to hire a third shift. It will be interesting to see what happens.
3:44 pm on June 29th, 2010 5
Nuckfuts,
While I agree that many soldiers look like trash on the streets of Itaewon, the curfew still made little difference in the behavior of soldiers. Those that wanted to stay out past curfew did just that. The curfew seemed to exist as another way to punish someone who got in trouble for something else late at night.
Also, you are dealing with young adults. Their class is not an issue. If it weren't for the presence of these troops, no other foreigners would be in South Korea either as it would most likely belong to the North or even China. These are young adults that are far away from home defending a democracy so that many of us can enjoy it's spoils. I personally do not go to the same bars or restaurants most soldiers go to so it is a non issue. As for how they are dressed, please take the time to look at how some english teachers and other expats dress here. I am surprised this country lets some of these people near their children.
3:47 pm on June 29th, 2010 6
I look forward to the days when the villes and the goings on within them are no longer a blight on our national reputation.
Anyway, the truth about the curfew is this.
2001 (Post 9/11): Curfew to prevent terrorist acts
2002 (Post Hwy 56): Curfew to prevent involvement in Korean civil disturbances
2003+ (Post NBC News report): Curfew to stem alcohol consumption, prostitution/human trafficking
We should be grateful towards people like GEN Sharp, LTG Fil, and MG Tucker honest enough about treating their 27,500 service members like adults. (I didn't mention LtGen Remington because… who is LtGen Remington and what does he stand for?)
5:08 pm on June 29th, 2010 7
I don't know what all the fuss is about does it matter if they have a curfew or not? I was first stationed in korea in 1974 when they had a curfew from Midnight til 0400 we just adapted to the rules, did some of us get in trouble? You damn right we did it comes with being young and learning from making stupid mistakes. Most young people will always make bad decisions when alcohol and juicy girls are present, always been that way. If these leaders really want to treat these young men and women like adults then lower the drinking age like it is in the states, some places its 18 and other states are 21. I believe the legal drinking age in korea is 18, besides if these soldiers are old enough to vote, be put in harms way atleast let them have a few beers instead of treating them like children. I am sure that other places in the world where soldiers are stationed that don't have curfews, they still manage to get in trouble.
5:43 pm on June 29th, 2010 8
#8
"I was first stationed in Korea [sic] in 1974 when they had a curfew from Midnight til 0400 …"
That curfew was under Korean martial law. It was a curfew for everyone, even Koreans.
A little more history and perspective for you. Prior to the 9/11 2001 curfew, 7th Air Force, the Air Force bases in Korea, still maintained a standing curfew, regardless of what USFK did. It is still unknown if we are going back to that status quo.
Will there be a spike in the incident rate after the curfew is lifted? Yes. Some will be able to deal with it and some won't. Eventually they will learn to self-police and they will find a place of normalcy.
But keep your phone cameras ready. It should be entertaining for a while. What happens in the ville doesn't have to stay in the ville. That's why they made YouTube.
6:06 pm on June 29th, 2010 9
Although I don't wish to direct this at anyone in particular, I would like to address something that was said by NUCKFUTS, he said that "We’re dealing with low class, out of control young GI’s who dress like they just got out of a trailer park or the ghetto." I am an E4, I have 2 combat tours under my belt, a tour to Germany and am now stationed in Korea. I'm also just 25. Maturity, age, and rank have no correlation to how much trouble or mayhem you can cause. It has been my experience after formal military balls that the senior enlisted and officers are the ones that like to cut loose and then go out and drink around town. The difference between a soldier getting trashed and going out in civilian clothes and a senior leader doing it in uniform is that there is no looking down upon the one in uniform. They are the mature ones right? They are older and more mature according to you. Soldiers, are just that, we are soldiers, regardless of rank or how you dress you are a soldier and that should be the only stereotype as when my wife and I go out to travel in the foreign lands, we are appropriately dressed as to blend in and not offend those local to the area. We are young however so we must be out to look like hoodlums. The change to the curfew policy I believe is a good one as if you show the soldier you have trust in them, for most it puts an action towards showing them you have that trust you say you do. Trust soldiers to do the right thing with their freedoms as you have no choice but to trust them to fight for yours.
6:23 pm on June 29th, 2010 10
I think the curfew is the casue of many alcohol problems. Military people would drink many drinks just before curfew. I was told by an Army alcohol counselor the the biggest problem the with the curfew is that it encourages military people to go to areas where military patrols are not aloud to patrol. I live in an area where there is no military ville and where GIs drink is an international section. If you notice USFK leadership knows this and they have put certain sections of Koren cities off limits that have a large international section of bars. Usually around universities.
8:45 pm on June 29th, 2010 11
7th AF curfew was establish by a manical one star that was forced to by his wife (3 seat wide) and his desire to payback the juciy girl faction that burned him when he was a captian here.. But thats my opinion.
Glad to see the command treating folks like adults again, hope people act like adults and don't mess it up.
8:49 pm on June 29th, 2010 12
I need to clarify the nuclear bomb that will explode once the curfew is lifted.
The GI in Korea is probably more of a victim than true offender. Why? Because of the Ville and the sleaze bar owners that have honed their skills to extract as much money from said GI as INHUMANLY possible. Most GI's don't even know what hits them. We all know nothing good happens after midnight and the curfew was still midnight or 0100 during the week. Now that's gone, the sleazeclub owners are ready to pounce. Seven FULL days of no curfew is OUT OF CONTROL in Korea. Sure, it's pretty obvious the crimes will go up but I'd be amazed if something NUCLEAR doesn't happen at least quarterly, maybe monthly.
Folks, these villes in Korea have always been bad but imo they've really gone to the absolute gutter. I was here in the 80's and 90's and there's no comparison to the way it is now.
Finally, whether you believe me or not there's one thing for certain..we're absolutely 100% going to find out! To me this is the perfect human behavioral experiment, just flat out letting the GI's run loose in today's slimy Villes!
They should be protecting these young GI's, not letting them run loose in the Villes where the odds are so far stacked against them. Somebody help these people for F'ing once!
8:49 pm on June 29th, 2010 13
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9:36 pm on June 29th, 2010 14
From the sounds of things, you sound like a soldier or prior soldier who made a mistake and instead of blaming yourself and taking responsibility for it like an adult, you are blaming others for not helping you through it or not babysitting you by holding your hand to make the right choice. Soldiers are a lot smarter than you give them credit for as a whole, there will still be those who are going to have issues and will get in trouble, but overall soldiers are getting smarter and making wiser decisions
11:40 pm on June 29th, 2010 15
It was inevitable that the curfew would go once Korea got on the path to 'tour normalcy', bringing in more family members. They're trying to model the assignment over here just like Germany – and with that the curfew had to go away. The only thing I disagree with is the timing: lifting it right before a 4-day holiday weekend, to me, is just an invitation to see how much data the blotter database can hold. If they had picked a normal 2-day weekend, then people would ease into it and I think things would make a more gradual and less potentially-explosive change. GIs beware – every nut-job US-hater with a camera, hidden or otherwise will be out there trying to get usable propaganda on you, and while many of you may be innocent or just caught up in the revelry during your drunken fun, don't be surprised if you become the spark that ignites the flames of hatred these crazies are lighting.
On another note, I also saw in that same S&S article that there might be some consideration to lift the ban on Hongdae. That would prove interesting, since it seems that most club owners down there would rather not have to deal with the powder keg of a few boisterous GIs mixing with the sometimes-radical Korean college students. I'll be interested to see where that one goes…
4:08 am on June 30th, 2010 16
Anyone know how this is going to affect CP duty? Is it going to be an all-night shift with the following day off? I could deal with that….
9:32 am on June 30th, 2010 17
1. First off many of the bar owners liked the 01:00 curfew. They could make their money, close up and go home. It leveled the playing field so their Korean genes would not be overwhelmed with the thought that someone else was getting over and making money while they were not. It enabled them to "Take the Money and Run".
2. When it went to 03:00 on weekends, once again they were not happy for the reasons outlined about. If you open at two in the afternoon that's a 13 hour day, plus tasks which must be completed both before and after opening/closing.
3. In outlying areas like TDC the fact that there will be no curfew and the subway has them shaking in their boots. Of course they could fix their places up, take a little pride, stopping mixing their booze with water/soju, stop selling bathtub rotgut crap booze, treat their customers as something other than an ATM and generally ditch the 70's attitude (the Juicy's and the X-mas lights) then people might hang around. But that is unlikely. It can be done though. You CAN run a respectable no-bull bar and charge reasonable prices for a quality product , even in TDC, and still make money.
4. Issue: Many of the all night clubs like the discos had a double customer base. After the GI's went in, the TCN's came out. A whole new fresh customer base for the rest of the night/morning. Now I suspect no one is going to outright ban GI's but some owners may decide they prefer the TCN's over GI's. It is unknown if they will be able to overcome that Korean gene mentioned earlier. I've always suspected Mr. Crabb's from Spongebob Squarepants is actually Korean (though this is unlikely as he cares not just about money but the quality of his product).
It's hard to say what's going to happen now. I suppose we may end up with one or two 24 hour bars? I do not see how some of them could stay open any longer without splitting or and additional staff. Perhaps they will all make a gentleman's agreement to close at certain times (you know some will cheat). What of the CP/MP presence? I mean we need those 30 some odd CP's roaming the ville looking in pissers. Will incidents go up? Perhaps, at first. Perhaps the lower level commanders who are unhappy with this decision will impose other draconian rules on the troops to keep them in line but still appear to follow the spirit of the new rule. Ought to be interesting.
10:49 am on June 30th, 2010 18
"In my opinion, if you lift the curfew then senior leaders need to be prepared to take the heat when a serious crime happens instead of just reflexively reimposing a curfew. "
I'm sure said crime will involve a fight with a taxi driver and a runaway bus.
11:01 am on June 30th, 2010 19
No curfew, here is what goes down (TOP 10 LIST):
1) Underage Soldiers can now get tore up and stay off post at a hotel or buddies place because no risk of walking back on post drunk
2) Soldiers whom couldn't reside off post will now come "out-of-pocket" and rent apartments that are not approved by housing for command sponsored Soldiers/Civilians, thus, more juicy girls will runaway because they can now live with their boyfriend 24/7
3) Prostitution goes up because now those Soldiers not willing to risk violating curfew in the past to "buy out a girl" can do so
4) STDs rise because there is more people having more unprotected sex with more partners (Soldiers/Juicys)
5) TDC patronage of clubs goes down on weekends because now Soldiers can go to Seoul without having to worry about being back by curfew
6) Korean "women of the night" sprout up locally more now that Soldiers are out all night (just like pre-2003 days)
7) More Juicys imported to suffice clubs staying open longer
Incidents between Soldiers and TCNs go up, now that there will be "competition" for juicy girl time after 3 am in those clubs that stayed open after curfew
9) Post bus/Taxi run all night???
10) Beer prices DROP in clubs! Nah, don't think so…
11:53 am on June 30th, 2010 20
Number 18. Smoke7. Interesting list. Allow me to add some insight from the ole days for comparison.
#1 Sounds like a good thing. That is what I would want my 19yo troops to do. I would prefer that USFK lower the legal age to 18. If you are old enough to take a life, your old enough to drink.
#2 I did that. But it was before TCNs worked the area. I had a great time! I don't believe the boss will allow the TCNs to get away with what you fear.
#3 I don't see that happening. I hear they are in the three figures. Not a time issue but a money issue.
#4 STDs will not rise. Working girls job is in danger if she is unclean. Back in the day, STD rates went UP when the base was restricted. Think about it. One GI female taking on a platoon of horndogs each week.
#5 Agree
#6 Not gonna happen. At least not any younger than their mothers.
#7 Clubs may stay open a couple hours more on the weekend. Not cost effective for most. The "competition" will be money driven. The boss still lock the TCNs away after work? I don't know.
#9 Post bus/taxi run all night. Taxi yes. Bus no.
#10 If you want to drink cheap, start in your room. Stay in your room. We didn't have the net in the 80s. They do now. Your not lookin for a place to drink when you go to the ville.
But if you get in trouble before or after "curfew" time. Your still in trouble.
The curfew was a bad idea 6 months after 9/11. Wrong message to the troops. Treat people like children and they will act like children. I believe the troops and leaders will police themselves as they did before. They are the same individuals that have no curfew at Fort Hood. Some WILL get in trouble. Some ALWAYS do. I took soldiers home, stopped others from being taken in by the MPs. I was sometimes sober by choice and down town. Payday and long weekends. Like the one coming. Officers and Senior Sergeants should be down range this weekend. I would be.
We will see.
12:48 pm on June 30th, 2010 21
Smoke7,
#1 Happens anyway, they just stayed in their barracks room, or tried to dodge curfew. Its not hard, just don't go places where the MPs are known to check.
#2 Soldiers can do that now anyway. The curfew does not read "back on base" its "back on base or a place of residence" and it stipulates that houses and hotels are considered places of residence. You could legally go out and drink, get a chick before curfew and run to a motel for the evening. There is ~nothing~ wrong with that, I know several 1SG's and CDR's that tried to get their soldiers in trouble but couldn't. The US military can not control what a US soldier does with their money provided they pay their bills and complete their military duties. Soldiers going out and "renting" an apartment is nothing new, nor is it against regulations. They must still "reside" in the barracks and maintain a room there. Now whether they stay the night at that room is a different matter. Again as long as their in a residence their not violating curfew, and there is no regulation that dictates where you can sleep. Of course the US Military is under zero obligation to support or assist with that apartment, meaning no BAH and the soldier can get screwed royally. Also if soldier miss's payments or gets into trouble due to the apartment then they can be prosecuted by the ROK and all that entails. Even art 15 for failing to pay your bills.
#3 Not gonna happen because its already happening. Like I mentioned above curfew wasn't stopping the prostitution it was the money involved.
#4 Contrary to your belief juices / prostitutes are generally clean because STDs are detrimental to their work ability. So condoms and VD checkups around. Its the onbase GI girls you ~really~ gotta worry about, they only get checked when something starts burning or itching and have had just as many if not more d1ck go through them.
#5 Probably right about this one. But 2ID has a warrior pass system and a crazy recall policy. And from what I remember of that place, don't they randomly do recalls / drills on the weekends and such? Not enough time to get from Seoul back to CP Cassy / CRC then dressed and in formation.
#6 Not a chance. There are already tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of Korean prostitutes. Most of them work for Korean only or mostly Korean places. Most of the prostitution done in the ROK is by Korean girls for Korean men, the juicy girls are a rare exception. Juicy's get away with serving the GI's because no Korean guy is stupid enough to pay that kind of money when they can get it cheaper at massage parlors / room salons and what not. If you know some Korean or know a few good Korean friends (ex-KATUSAs) then you can easily get into the Korean places, better service for drastically lower price. Better girls too.
#7/8 Probably who knows. Not more competition because its the same groups of GI's at 4am that were there at 1am. If anything less competition as the night wears on as most GI's go home about 3am.
#9 Taxis already run all night, at least in the places I go.
#10 haha foreign alcohol is expensive in ROK no matter how you cut it. If you want to drink cheaply then do it like the Koreans do, go with friends to a samgyupsal or other gogi place and drink a few bottles of soju before heading to the bar / club. Actually being tipsy beforehand does make the juicy's more appealing…. damn beer goggles.
The juicy business is designed to take advantage of young / single American men who can't speak any Korean. Their insanely overpriced for the services rendered. Young Korean college chicks are easy enough to pick up that no young GI should be hunting pay-for-p8ssy.
1:02 pm on June 30th, 2010 22
4) STDs rise because there is more people having more unprotected sex with more partners (Soldiers/Juicys)
One of the biggest secret non-secrets in the military. Ask any PA's or medics at the TMC's. Any of them will tell you the origin of the majority of STD cases can be tracked back to GI females, not juicys/prostitutes. Many refer to them as vectors….
1:57 pm on June 30th, 2010 23
"Many refer to them as vectors"
It's not the STDs I'm worried about.
It's the mad cow disease.
I'm doing my best to promote Battle Cattle in the military community. Help it along, and you can tell your grandkids you were there when it started.
2:55 pm on June 30th, 2010 24
Interesting "experienced" opinions…let me confirm a few things you may not be aware of that I have knowledge of:
3:14 pm on June 30th, 2010 25
Interesting "experienced" opinions…not disputing, but let me confirm a few things you may not be aware of that I have knowledge of:
1) In Tokori, Korean men DO buy out girls…check out Grand Illusion sometime…Ajima (owner) sells her girls all the time, to include to Bangladesh, Filipino, Peruvian, men.
2) Juicys may have weekly/monthly checkups but guess what? I know personally of a few who had Herpes or Chlamydia, were treated by Korean docs, and let to stay working here…mama just prevented them from going out IAW docs orders for a few weeks (1 worked in Tokori, one worked in TDC) so the "come up hot, go home concept isn't be abided by. The both recently ran away, in case you are wondering. CLubs? Club 9 in the Toke and Silver Stars in TDC.
3) Korean prostitutes are already popping up around the TDC ville…look across the street from the CMO box some night and you will see one right out in the open standing in the doorway near Subway, propositioning men as they walk by (kinda looks like the old chunky Korean woman we referred to as "Sergeant Major" back in the day, but its not her, thank God!) She is on the prowl during the day sometimes as well, be careful walking around Subway, Lutong Bahay restaurant area.
4) On post taxis stop running at midnight up here at Casey…long walk from Gate 1 to Hovey, but I guess you could take a taxi to Hovey gate and walk from there
5) I talk to the girls alot and they admit, MOST guys get away with having sex with them with no condom; some girls do the right thing, MOST DON'T!
6) Recalls don't happen up here like they used too, however, when alerts kick back in the month of August, maybe….
7) A good one is some of the BIGGEST violators are CPTs and MAJORS! Oh YES! Girls LOVE to tell me those stories….I am sure the CG would LOVE to have knowledge of who those leaders are.
Great Stuff! Tnx guys! Next few months are going to be interesting to see how things play out, should start a pool!
3:36 pm on June 30th, 2010 26
#4 Contrary to your belief juices / prostitutes are generally clean because STDs are detrimental to their work ability. So condoms and VD checkups around. Its the onbase GI girls you ~really~ gotta worry about, they only get checked when something starts burning or itching and have had just as many if not more d1ck go through them
I can tell you from when I worked in the hospital most of the STDs came from female GIs or some low class prostitute such as a Korean street walker. As far as staying out all night, the Air Force has a policy if you wish to spend a night outside of the dorm you have to get permission from your supervisor and give a phone number and location of where you will be staying in case of a recall. I have been here in Korea for a real long time and remember the sex scene before the TCN girls. When they had Korean bar girls the attitude from the USFK leadership was totally different than it is now. Even 1st Sgts. and commanders had yobos. Now they for the most part yobos don't exist. Everyone could go to their favorite Korean girls living quarters on their day off for sex and none of the problems you had today existed. By the way TCN girls don't get checked. When they had Korean girls they were checked weekly and the results give to the medical facility. If I can remember the girls in the bar used to wear a number. Military people the world over will always get drunk and do crazy things.
3:56 pm on June 30th, 2010 27
Smoke7,
You realize that CP Cassy / CRC land is god awful for population. That is literally the Korean definition of "countryside" so you can expect to get country girls / quality. I would expect the same from any streetwalker / hoe in some nasty place like … Radcliff KY (used to be stationed at FT Knox, talk about country hicks). I'm referring to the major cities like Seoul / Busan / Daejon / Daegu and so forth.
Your taking a small little section and making it the gold standard for the rest of Korea, which it isn't. Hell here in Daegu there is virtually no ville or the nastiness it brings. Most are just bars, or downtown area is a bunch of mega dance clubs. Busan has Texas street, but that is for the Russian / foreign sailors that come through. You know your in the wrong place when you walk into a bar and everything is written in Russian.
2ID land sucks, its the a$$pit of the ROK. Unfortunately there is an entire group of soldiers who spend all their time there and get this distorted view of Korea. Anyway, if your young and single, its too easy to get a Korean girlfriend, especially amongst the colledge girls.
5:05 pm on June 30th, 2010 28
Am I the only one who scrolls down and not bother reading what leon deporte or watever his name's comments? His comments are nothing but waste of space.
5:10 pm on June 30th, 2010 29
And who is that smoke7? Is that leon porte's brother or something? Since when did that thing started to appear?
5:42 pm on June 30th, 2010 30
Well Orbit, I really enjoyed your witty and insightful comments. Please share more often.
9:55 pm on June 30th, 2010 31
Interesting “experienced” opinions…let me confirm a few things you may not be aware of that I have knowledge of:
11:25 am on July 5th, 2010 32
So, how did the 4th of July go down in Korea without a curfew?
11:14 pm on July 5th, 2010 33
What? No reports? No murder or rapes? What about drunken fighting and whoring at 0300 or 0400?
I thought this would be ANYTHING but boring. Where are the crys of "I told you so"?
I can only assume that the "horrors" are being kept underwraps.
11:16 pm on July 5th, 2010 34
cries not crys I need to proofread more.
11:28 pm on July 5th, 2010 35
Dude, just give it some time. Tonight will be the first no curfew night when the GI's have to work the next morning. The clubs are staying open into the wee wee morning hours as expected. This morning though they were shooing customers away so they could close around 0400ish. Yes, 0400!
11:29 pm on July 5th, 2010 36
Retired GI…
Don't worry about it. People only get messed with for their writing mistakes when they:
1. criticize others' writing… in an error-filled post
2. drone on and on about the quality and quantity of their degrees… in an error-filled post
3. write anything in an education-related topic with a snide and authoritative attitude… in an error-filled post
4. claim to be a teacher of any sort while making fundamental mistakes that are intuitively wrong for real teachers… in an error-filled post
Other than that, nobody cares what someone bang out off the top of their head after a long day at work and a couple of beers.
…although, of course, you are what you write on the Internet… so it's best not to make too many mistakes… and to make an effort to recognize your weaknesses and guard against them.
The more you write, the better you become at it.
7:35 am on July 6th, 2010 37
nuckfuts—yea, I remember well, jogging two miles to get to PT on time to do the two mile run. Didn't do that often! But I did it.
Chickenhead—Why do I feel that you know me, oh so well. Plus, I see teadrinker in 1 thru 4. Maybe it's just me.
I sometimes miss the Olympia club(from the 80's) when it had Korean women/girls working there. Watching some permed up-two coats of face paint almost beauty eat a chicken foot. Spit the bone out and smile. At 0300. Short timing her for a twenty and having the old timers tell me I got ripped of the following Monday.
4:00 am on February 16th, 2011 38
I was stationed in Korea in 2004. My Lt and I went out to a bar far away from Camp Hialeah, to have a few drinks and have a good time. I was so unlucky because the MPs conducted a raid after curfew hours and picked me up and the LT and I was reduced in rank to E5. 6 years later I'm still a E6 and unable to get promoted. even everything that I have done for the Army and been given outstanding NCOERs , I still cant get promoted, and it is for somethig Ive done a long time ago, now there is no more curfew, what the hell!
4:20 am on February 16th, 2011 39
#38
Man I feel for you.
8:23 am on February 16th, 2011 40
#38 You know the deal, one Oh Sh!t erases a thousand attaboys. That said, If you have over 10, might as well stick it out. In the meantime take full advantage of your benefits and ride that education and training train… Screw it. If under 10, might be time to pull stakes.
10:23 pm on October 10th, 2011 41
#38, The U.S. military is perhaps the greatest in the world because of such strict discipline… or used to be?
Sad thing is that everything is downhill for all things American…
economy, military, quality of people in general…
This is beside the point but Rick Perry the Governor of Texas has family gatherings at “niggerheads” – a camping ground named for strange reason… For Gov. Perry, racism is really a natural thing and to this day, the U.S. is still have people like that… they never cease to amaze me…
2:29 am on October 11th, 2011 42
What would you know about it? What you read on the internet or what you have really seen?