By The investigation into a crash of an Osan Airbase F-16 crash this past February has concluded with it being blamed on landing gear:
An investigation has found that the crash of an F-16 fighter jet during landing at Osan Air Base in February was caused by a mechanical problem in the plane’s landing gear, the Air Force said Thursday morning.The pilot escaped with minor injuries in the Feb. 25 crash, but the aircraft was destroyed, a financial loss to the Air Force of more than $23 million, said Master Sgt. Michael Hammond, a Pacific Air Forces spokesman.
The collapse of the right main landing gear when it touched down on the runway caused the aircraft to tilt to one side, and a Maverick missile attached to the wing was scraping the runway’s paved surface. The aircraft veered to the right and off the runway. [Stars & Stripes]
2:50 pm on August 13th, 2010 1
$23 million. Then it's pretty old, probably 80's block 30/32 still rock and rolling with CCIP. I dunno about USAF but ROKAF KF-16 block 52 cost twice more than that to license produce.
7:52 pm on August 13th, 2010 2
Cheap unreliable made in USA.
8:43 pm on August 13th, 2010 3
Tom… are you really, really sure you want to start that kind of talk?
An effective hater must channel their hate more wisely.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seongsu_Bridge
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampoong_Department_…
9:15 pm on August 13th, 2010 4
Tom… are you really, really sure you want to start that kind of talk?
An effective hater must channel their hate more wisely.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seongsu_Bridge
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampoong_Department_Store_collapse
9:40 pm on August 13th, 2010 5
I'm waiting for a WTC retort…
about how there wasn't a Patriot battery to protect it…
8:46 am on August 14th, 2010 6
No I don't need to mention the WTC, when I can use this:
Minnesota bridge collapse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osocGiofdvc
It looks much worse then seongsu bridge collapse
9:19 am on August 14th, 2010 7
#5, Are you really going to compare Korea to the U.S.? Korea should be able to take care of its infrastructure a little better considering its size. When you compare anything between the two countries multiply Korea's negatives by 60 for a fair comparison. Also, for a guy who’s country has nothing but a history of losing in war, you sure talk a lot of SH!T. I mean, can you deny that you in part owe your countries success to the U.S.? If i remember right there were some really cool KATUSA's and then there were some really strange and gay looking and acting KATUSA's, I am guessing you were the latter and were treated like an outcast by soldiers.
1:28 pm on August 14th, 2010 8
Back to topic
; If I remember right, the first squadron of F-16s came to Osan in 1988, replacing a squadron of F4-Es (which were sold to the ROKAF). Does anyone know if the F-16s at Osan are still the original ones, or have they been replaced with newer versions? I've never bothered looking at the tail numbers; I'm assuming they're the original ones with upgrades and modifications.
2:29 pm on August 14th, 2010 9
Tom,
The I-35W Mississippi River bridge collapsed due to a probably design flaw.
It was designed by Sverdrup & Parcel between 1961 and 1964.
The lead structural design engineer was a Korean-American named Richard Kim.
Of all the bad luck, eh?
3:09 pm on August 14th, 2010 10
#7 I expect any explicit information of whether or not those F-16s are old ones or new ones to remain opsec. But KAI does make frequent upgrades and modifications on USAF F-16s. You can see some of the upgrade processes and tail numbers here. You'll be able to identify the planes as new ones or old ones with only the tail numbers if you were supposed to know about it.
http://koreadefence.net/wys2/file_attach/2010/06/… http://koreadefence.net/wys2/file_attach/2010/06/… http://koreadefence.net/wys2/file_attach/2010/06/… http://koreadefence.net/wys2/file_attach/2010/06/… http://koreadefence.net/wys2/file_attach/2010/06/… http://koreadefence.net/wys2/file_attach/2010/02/… http://koreadefence.net/wys2/file_attach/2010/06/…
I think the crashed plane was an old one anyway, because it's so cheap.
4:19 pm on August 14th, 2010 11
Cite?
4:31 pm on August 14th, 2010 12
Tom is right again.
I remember when the American built Sampoong department store collapsed. Shoddy American workmanship and materials. The Seongsu Bridge, also built by Americans using American materials, is another prime example the "tae-so" building methods and corruption popular throughout the US.
5:06 pm on August 14th, 2010 13
At #5 Nomad,
After about a year and a half, the original Block 30 "Big Mouth" Vipers at Osan went on to replace some of the "Small Mouth" Block 30 Vipers at Misawa in the fall of 1990. See an example at: http://f-16.net/aircraft-database/F-16/airframe-p…
for 87-0322. They were succeeded at Osan by Block 42 Pratt and Worthless-powered machines which have long since been replaced by other Vipers.
10:46 pm on August 14th, 2010 14
Tom, you truly are a hater. I have never seen anyone hate like you.
11:26 pm on August 14th, 2010 15
I'm thinking he's more of a troll. No one is actually that stupid.
11:44 pm on August 14th, 2010 16
Well guys, straight from the google web pages:
In 1990, the federal government gave the I-35W bridge a rating of "structurally deficient," citing significant corrosion in its bearings. Approximately 75,000 other U.S. bridges had this classification in 2007
Yeap that's right, they knew about the rusting nuts for 17 years but did nothing about it. They also rated the bridge "structurally deficient" in 2005 again, but again, did nothing about it. In Korea, that's called negligent homicide and failing to carry out their duties. Some people who were in charge should have been in jail. But in America it's act of god.
What's even more scarier is that there are 75,000 other bridges like this in America. The entire US infrastructure is rusting away and breaking up because America is bankrupt and owe big money to foreign investors who hold their debt.
12:26 am on August 15th, 2010 17
Well, with any luck America will collapse and break apart. The Confederate States of American in the south and whatever central mid-west states will form their own country. Haven't thought of a name for it yet. Then the progressives and liberals can have the NY area states. Cali can go back to the Mexicans. See what it looks like in five years with no federal aid from the defunct America. Not to mention What Korea would look like with no America to prop it up and tell it how to behave.
I have a dream!
12:45 am on August 15th, 2010 18
Perhaps this troll is a Chi Com agent with a mission of stirring up dissent and dischord, part of some nefarious Commie Psyop strategy that's expanded into the Cyber realm. Think of all the time and keystrokes denied from other worthy subjects due to his distraction. As in the comment I've just made!
3:17 am on August 15th, 2010 19
Hans Brinker,
"Cite?"
Impossible.
I completely made that up to see if Tom would bite.
Tom has some good points but they too often get overshadowed by stupid comments like the F-16 being "Cheap unreliable made in USA."
C'mon, Tom, there are plenty of legitimate complaints about America. Don't dilute them with pointless whining.
In reality, almost all the Korean issues complained about here were going on in America while Korea was still in ruins… an agrarian society recovering from occupation and war.
Pollution, poor driving, litter, environmental destruction, construction errors, greedy companies, inefficient police, semi-open government corruption, food and drug mistakes, etc…
America has been there, done that, followed the learning curve… as Korea has been doing for the last 20 years… and has improved on all of these issues at a shocking rate.
On the other hand, back in the day, America had lower crime, a stronger work ethic, a greater sense of national duty and willingness to sacrifice, nicer cops, celebrities with ability rather than notoriety, social condemnation of whacked-out values, government support for small business and manufacturing labor… just as Korea does now.
Tom is right about one thing. America's infrastructure is deteriorating. While we bomb-and-rebuild bridges in the middle east, there is no money to keep rest stops open or maintain roads… and a lot of things like bridge upgrades are being delayed… as there is a known safety margin which allows for it… usually.
As for America collapsing and breaking apart… that is only a dream if it would solve all the problems. In reality, it would likely be more of a nightmare in many, many ways. Don't wish for that.
Wish for the population to pull themselves away from the TV long enough to demand accountability from their government… which will likely only happen if they are hungry and on the brink of homelessness.
I enjoy watching Koreans demonstrate against their government… because it shows that they care… and it keeps the individuals in government, regardless of side scams, making decisions that benefit Korea and the majority of the population… something American politicians haven't been doing for quite a while.
1:14 pm on August 15th, 2010 20
Pops,
Thanks for the info.
Chickenhead,
I was wrong about you, a few years back. My apologies.
4:12 pm on August 15th, 2010 21
Nomad,
I hope that means you think better of me now than then.
I always thought/think you are a good guy.
8:57 pm on August 15th, 2010 22
Chickenhead,
"I hope that means you think better of me now than then."
Yes, that's exactly what it means. I was wrong, and I have no problem admitting that.
"I always thought/think you are a good guy."
Considering some of the things that transpired, that's very generous of you.
5:39 pm on August 16th, 2010 23
At #18 Nomad,
You're welcome!
8:19 pm on August 16th, 2010 24
This is another north korea crime and UN sanctions are needed. Maybe a torpedo number 2 was used.
10:22 pm on August 16th, 2010 25
Nomad,
"“I always thought/think you are a good guy.”"
I guess I thought it… now I know it.