By This was all so predictable, but this beauty and more like them could be coming to a military recruiting station near you:
We all knew this was coming. Autumn Sandeen, a transgendered guy who wears a female Navy uniform when he protests with the Dan Choi crowd, who I’ve mentioned before isn’t satisfied with the repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell. He/she wants transgendered rights to serve in the military, too, according to the New York Times;
You can read more on this over at This Ain’t Hell.
So who would this person room with in the barracks, males or females? Or better yet should the military pay for their sex change operation?
1:14 pm on January 17th, 2011 1
Oh, f*ck no! I'm sorry, but this is too much! I might have to put my retirement papers in and chain myself to the White House fence to protest this!
1:39 pm on January 17th, 2011 2
Good Lord
I feel sorry for my friends still serving, and I shudder to imagine what this great social experiment on the US Military is going to turn in to.
4:50 pm on January 17th, 2011 3
Which showers does it use?
5:36 pm on January 17th, 2011 4
Leon,
Golden.
5:46 pm on January 17th, 2011 5
During the debate that we here at ROK Drop had on DADT repeal I warned that this would be next. I'm afraid that I was right. This all comes from the inability of some people to keep their PRIVATE LIVES PRIVATE! I personally don't care if somebody wants to dress up like a Brazilian Carnival dancer on their non-duty time but please DON'T BRING THIS $h!+ TO WORK. I thank the good Lord that I have retired. I told you all that this would happen. The once great American military force is becoming the laughing stock of the world. Can we please think about our DUTY to our nation & quit trying to hang a sign around our necks saying "Look at Me." I have read stories that trannies have even wanted to dress up in the opposite gender clothes at work who are SCHOOL TEACHERS! YOUR mind may be fubar but do you have to screw every other persons mind as well? I hope the new Congress ends this crap once & for all. Leon LaPorte #3, Great question! I swear this stuff makes me want to puke.
6:38 pm on January 17th, 2011 6
You guys are overreacting, once again. As I said yesterday, since 1992 in Canada without much fanfare.
8:21 pm on January 17th, 2011 7
I feel sorry for the young people who are going to join the military to serve their country and they will have to deal with BS like this. WTG Obama!
12:22 am on January 18th, 2011 8
There won't be many parents signing the papers to let their minor children sign up after this… And who in high school wants to join the GLT Club?
The perverts behind this are guilty under 18 USC Sction 2387 http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/18/I/115/2387.
Not that we should expect AG Holder to respond appropriately. Even Bush's team ignored this law…
1:06 am on January 18th, 2011 9
OMG! it's a beaver with a kickstand! Lola, L-O-L-A, Lola..
SETNAFFA,
You nailed it, good sleuthing, but it's not going to change anything, to this administration, laws are just suggestions, kind of like Korean traffic signals.
I don't see what the new congress will do about this BS, you haven't heard a peep from them about it yet.
1:21 am on January 18th, 2011 10
I still have faith in the young male military to find the correct time and place to put this Freak in it's proper place.
Just as we did before DADT, when the gay blades decided to come out at the wrong place and time to the wrong people.
2:30 am on January 18th, 2011 11
Q: How many trannies does it take to cover an entire field of fire?
A: Only one… but you have to slice her really thin.
3:05 am on January 18th, 2011 12
Jeezus what's next, the Uncle Sam poster in drag saying "I want you for the new gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgendered Army"? I've got no problem with people who experience gender identity issues. Live and let live. Just don't let them live in the Air Force, Army, Coast Guard, Marines, or Navy. Maybe I shouldn't speak for the Navy
I wonder if anyone has worked out any cost estimates of how much more it's going to cost to have transgenders in the service. "Doc, my surgically constructed penis/vagina isn't functioning properly. I'll need to have it REconstructed." AND, if they are allowed in, will someone who is already in, be eligible for gender reassignment at military hospitals while on active duty? If a male is surgically reassigned, will that make him a WAC (as in WAC it off)
sHe's got nice nails, though.
5:14 am on January 18th, 2011 13
I wonder if this will help make the case that a man is every bit as good as a woman. (and stronger)
Sometimes even checking for the adams apple is of no use.
6:39 am on January 18th, 2011 14
Why do so many of you guys feel threatened by this? It's not as being gay is contagious.
6:44 am on January 18th, 2011 15
…as if it's contagious, I meant.
Let me put it this way, it's not as if you'll ever see a guy prancing around in ass-less chaps or another rollerblading while wearing nothing but a Speedo on Yongsan Garrison once DADT is done.
6:55 am on January 18th, 2011 16
I don't think anyone here or anywhere else is worried about becoming infected with homosexuality. It's just the concomitant issues that occur when people making changes don't foresee problems, or refuse to acknowledge them.
7:02 am on January 18th, 2011 17
TEADRINKER #15: Are you sure? Openly gay, is openly gay. If a female could roller blade around in short-shorts and a skimpy halter top, why not a guy? Personally, I'd be quite amused. It would just be a little difficult to take him seriously when I saw him in uniform, though. Oh well, time will tell…
7:42 am on January 18th, 2011 18
GI Korea, You should have captioned the photo as "The Tranny Granny." Retired GI #13, I've read that some of these degenerates have their Adam's apples shaved down after they've altered their plumbing. I guess the next thing is if some troop wants to wear a purple Barney the Dinosaur suit to formation. "Well Sergeant, my buttbuddy is attracted to dinosaurs & this is who I am." The Sergeant replies, "Son, daughter, whatever, dinosaurs have been extinct for 65 million years, how can your boyfriend, cross-dressing girlfriend, whatever, be attracted to something that is no longer alive?" The wacko states "Well Sergeant, I heard you talking to one of the other NCO's & I heard you say that you thought that Marilyn Monroe was really hot & she's dead." Sarge says "That's true but she's HUMAN!" Waco says "So that's it! You're a DINOSAURPHOBE!" The fun continues…
7:53 am on January 18th, 2011 19
Then the Sgt. says, "maybe, but at least I'm not a noncom-sore-ass"
7:55 am on January 18th, 2011 20
Dragonfly #19, Good!
7:59 am on January 18th, 2011 21
What happens if someone on active duty decides they want to have a sex change and they want the military to pay for the treatments?
8:06 am on January 18th, 2011 22
Hold on there Tom L. Dragonfly shows high potential for rising to the level of noncom-sore-ass.
That could even be a new RANK for the Army!
8:06 am on January 18th, 2011 23
Join the Navy and feel a new man every day!
8:12 am on January 18th, 2011 24
Owwwwwch! Don't sign me up for a transfer to the 101st Rectal Rangers (Abn) anytime soon.
8:17 am on January 18th, 2011 25
Phew! And here I thought Glenn Close was playing a FC1 in an upcoming film.
9:48 am on January 18th, 2011 26
It should have been there for XO movie night.
/SWOveralls
9:49 am on January 18th, 2011 27
#17,
Dude, are you sure? Dan Choi looks so square to me, I could make a joke about him having a stick up somewhere…but I'll refrain because that would sound homophobic.
9:51 am on January 18th, 2011 28
"What happens if someone on active duty decides they want to have a sex change and they want the military to pay for the treatments?"
Does the military pay when soldiers get cosmetic surgery? No, right? Well, I would imagine it would be like any other non-necessary medical procedures.
9:56 am on January 18th, 2011 29
#18,
I think you just hate the idea because you would no longer be able to complain that women can't carry 150lbs of gear into battle.
10:02 am on January 18th, 2011 30
#28- but they'll argue it's not cosmetic because the surgery would make them "who they are" and would be corrective surgery.
10:04 am on January 18th, 2011 31
#28 Actually I'm guessing he could get charged with destruction of government property for lopping his chud off.
After all they can, and do, burn you for getting a sun burn… (pun warning)
10:28 am on January 18th, 2011 32
Thomas Lee #30, True corrective surgery for these freaks would be a lobotomy. Teadrinker #29, If a tranny who is biologically a male but dresses as a female does a PT test do you grade them as a male or female? After hormone treatments I wonder if they could carry 150 lbs of gear or not.
10:49 am on January 18th, 2011 33
I think this is going to be mandatory for every gay thread.
I feel a song coming on, everybody let’s sing (slightly altered):
Hey, F*ck
Anita BryantG.I. KoreaWho the Hell is he
Telling all them faggots
That they can’t be free
Throw that bitch in prison
then maybe he’ll see
just how much them goddamned homosexuals mean to me
Because they…
Wash your clothes
clean your cell
help you drain your hose
give you smokes
laugh at jokes
sew up all your clothes
rub your feet
beat your meat
Heaven only knows
What I’d do without those homosexuals
They all
Read and Write
F*ck all night
Clean your fingernails
help you dress
play you chess
lay you down some rails
Be your wife
take your life
in a jealous rage
who says we don’t need them homosexuals
I tell you
Some are big
some are small
some are in-between
some are yellow belly queers
and some of them are mean
some are killers
some are thieves
some are singers too
In fact
Anita BryantG.I. KoreaSome act just like you
*RINSE*REPEAT*
1:50 pm on January 18th, 2011 34
In Beserkly, excuse me Berkeley, CA the city council appears to be about to vote to pay $20,000 for sex change operations for city employees. If anybody has been reading the news lately the state of CA is BROKE & a city there wants to pay for THIS. If trannies are allowed in the US military, MARK MY WORDS (since my predictions on this type of crap have proved spot on since I know how liberals think, if you want to call it thinking) they, the homosexual activist & other leftist groups, & their stooges in Congress will demand that this surgery be provided by the taxpayers.
9:12 pm on January 18th, 2011 35
"#28- but they’ll argue it’s not cosmetic because the surgery would make them “who they are” and would be corrective surgery."
Nah, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying it probably wouldn't be covered because their condition is not life threatening nor would it prevent them from showing up to work…But that's without considering the psychological aspect.
"Teadrinker #29, If a tranny who is biologically a male but dresses as a female does a PT test do you grade them as a male or female? After hormone treatments I wonder if they could carry 150 lbs of gear or not."
Grade them as a male until he gets gender reassignment surgery, I'd say, and if they could before the hormone therapy, I don't see why they couldn't after. It's not as if hormone therapy turns a 200lbs guy into a 105lbs woman.
10:14 pm on January 18th, 2011 36
I have the same outlook on this as I do when it comes to welfare. If you sign up with 2 kids, you don't get any extra money if you pop out another one and you should be on it for a limited amount of time.
For this, if you sign up as a John, you can't become a Jane until your contract expires. The government shouldn't pay for the surgery nor should they allow cross dressing in uniform (since most programs require the person to live/dress/work as whatever they want to be for a year or two before getting the surgery).
I seriously question the mental fitness of some of these people.
10:46 pm on January 18th, 2011 37
There's nothing wrong with a freak show. Enjoy.
1:50 am on January 19th, 2011 38
As of now the military doesn't perform gender reassignment surgeries, but the VA will provide counselling and hormone therapy for a vet that is undergoing it. The DSM IV recognizes Gender Identity Disorder as a definite condition, so it's probably just a matter of time before the VA will be doing the surgeries or contracting them out. As weird as it may sound, if it's a recognized disorder, I would say the veteran is legally entitled to treatment or correction of the disorder through the VA. That's not to say I don't think that the money could be better spent on other issues concerning veterans, becasue it could. But, in no way should the active duty military be subjected to anything that doesn't directly involve completing their mission. It's astounding that in the middle of a war, the discussion in the press and congress focuses on whether homosexuals or transgenders are to be admitted to military service. What about plans for winning the war, exit strategies, weapons development, troop training and morale, divorce rates, multiple deployments, suicide rates of active duty and guard/reserve troops? That's what the military should be concerned with, not all this other crap they are being forced to deal with. It just all seems so effin silly to have to worry about whether a handful of unfortunate individuals born with the brain of one gender, and the body of another should be able to enlist. Social issues and experiments need to take place in the public sector, not in the institutions where the core mission is to forcefully deal with the enemies of the US.
5:56 am on January 19th, 2011 39
Dragonfly #38, Excellent post, you hit the nail right on the head!
11:45 am on January 19th, 2011 40
Wonder if military medicine will have to cover the expense of sex changes too?
Cross-dressing is a fetish, not a sexual identity. What other fetishes do they have to tolerate? This could be fun…spankings and take-your-sheep-to-work days in the new military!
3:55 pm on January 19th, 2011 41
Point of information: Isn't it a federal crime to wear a military uniform if you arent military. That She-thing is not really in the Navy, is he (she, it)?
4:27 pm on January 19th, 2011 42
NB #41, You are correct. The she-thing (great word for it) as I recall reading retired from the Navy after serving as a man & after it retired decided to do this. Dan Choi after he was discharged continued his protest wearing the uniform. Protesting for ANY cause in uniform while active duty is against the UCMJ, that is conduct unbecoming. Dan Choi protested in uniform while he was still active duty & after he was discharged he continued to protest while in uniform which is against federal law. I also saw a photo of Dan Choi protesting in uniform & he had a rainbow sash across his uniform which is obviously disgracing the uniform. There was a case many years ago about a SFC who was a American Nazi party member. Since he treated all his soldiers fairly there was nothing that could be done, UNTIL a photo turned up of him in his class A uniform with a swastika armband. The military was then able to kick this POS out for disgracing the uniform. Since the she-thing is now retired it can no longer wear the uniform. I hope both of these individuals are prosecuted to the full extent of the law but I doubt that it will happen. After Casper Weinberger became Defense Secretary under President Reagan he forbade troops from belonging to extremist organizations so the problem with the SFC that I talked about can't happen again.
7:53 pm on January 19th, 2011 43
"Cross-dressing is a fetish, not a sexual identity. What other fetishes do they have to tolerate? This could be fun…spankings and take-your-sheep-to-work days in the new military!"
It's got nothing to do with clothes. I've never heard of anyone suffering from depression and having suicidal thoughts because they wanted to dress a certain way but couldn't.
"As of now the military doesn’t perform gender reassignment surgeries, but the VA will provide counselling and hormone therapy for a vet that is undergoing it. The DSM IV recognizes Gender Identity Disorder as a definite condition, so it’s probably just a matter of time before the VA will be doing the surgeries or contracting them out. As weird as it may sound, if it’s a recognized disorder, I would say the veteran is legally entitled to treatment or correction of the disorder through the VA. "
Yes, that's what I thought might happen if the psychological aspect is considered. Frankly, 50000$, or whatever the treatment and surgery cost, it's probably a drop in the bucket when it comes to how much the government lose in cost of training if some of these people quit the military because of their condition.
11:18 pm on January 19th, 2011 44
#43: "It’s got nothing to do with clothes. I’ve never heard of anyone suffering from depression and having suicidal thoughts because they wanted to dress a certain way but couldn’t."
If a person has a mental condition that makes them a serious suicide risk, that should disqualify them from service entirely and/or make them elegible for medical early retirement if the ailment manifests itself during their service.
4:27 am on January 20th, 2011 45
Teadrinker #43, If someone is goofy enough not to be able to act normal when they are on duty they shouldn't be in the military to begin with. When they are off duty they can dress up like a rhinoceros, a penguin, or a meter-maid for all I care but act NORMAL while on DUTY. Liz #44, Great point!
1:09 pm on January 20th, 2011 46
Teadrinker #43, If the taxpayer DID pay the $50,000 for the trannies to get a sex change operation this would obviously cause more of them to enlist so your argument about the money lost in training these freaks has to be balanced with that fact. If someone doesn't have the self control to just act normally during the duty day (if you want to dress up like the wicked witch in The Wizard of Oz on non-duty time, who cares?) does anybody REALLY want this person to have access to lethal weapons? Listen up freako's-it's not about YOU, It's about the defense of The United States of America. I can't believe that the morals of this nation have gone so far down the toilet that we are actually having a serious discussion about this kind of crap.
1:55 pm on January 20th, 2011 47
When turned on for a good reason,
s'bring out a transgender that's pleasin'.
Some 'er hot.
Autumn is not.
See, trannies have four distinct seasons.
Autumn is so hot she's steamin'.
Bend her over and give her a reamin'.
And as bonuses go,
you can give her a blow,
and find she's a seaman with semen.
3:46 pm on January 20th, 2011 48
Chickenhead #47, As always The Master.
10:18 pm on January 20th, 2011 49
#44,45,
Yes, but I never said all people with gender identity disorder are suicidal, did I?
"If the taxpayer DID pay the $50,000 for the trannies to get a sex change operation this would obviously cause more of them to enlist so your argument about the money lost in training these freaks…"
Oh, so they are freaks because you say so. Never mind that doctors won't perform the surgery on patients unless they have gone through psychological testing and are convinced that they are mentally fit.
10:25 pm on January 20th, 2011 50
"I can’t believe that the morals of this nation have gone so far down the toilet…"
Define for me what you think are the morals of your country and what they used to be and when. Please do. This should get really entertaining. Be forewarned, I've got quotes ready for you from unsavory characters in American history who've made the same kind of appeal to fudge things over for everyone.
1:14 am on January 21st, 2011 51
Teadrinker, the crux of the situation is that the institutions entrusted with safety and defense of the United States (and other places as well) shouldn't be required to carve out a niche for every psychological, biological, or psychiatric sub group. The military is a niche unto itself. If you don't fit, find another niche where you do. If I went to work for a company, I wouldn't expect them to make allowances for my peculiarities, I would make allowances for theirs – if I wanted to continue working there. As I said above, the military should be concerned with things that pertain to the military, like defense of the nation, troop and family welfare, weapons, training. You know, military stuff, not social experimentation stuff.
4:49 pm on January 21st, 2011 52
Teadrinker, #49. I guess again we'll just have to agree to disagree. I'm sorry but anyone who was born with a penis who thinks that they are a girl & vice versa is not "mentally fit."
5:32 pm on September 15th, 2011 53
You don’t have to be M or F to get an Australian passport. You can now be X. That seems pretty reasonable, because the two recognized genders don’t really add up to 100% of the population. Here’s the CNN story.
6:22 pm on September 15th, 2011 54
PULHES = 11?113
7:34 pm on September 15th, 2011 55
A man goes to a bar and eyes a pretty young thing. Beautiful blonde hair, nice firm breast, nice figure, and a nice soft posterior. He gets her phone number, calls her, and they go out on a few dates. They fall madly in love with one another. The man being old fashioned never asked his girlfriend to spend the night. Finally after many months of great times together on their anniversary of meeting each other he takes her out and proposes to her “Honey, I love being with you, you are the light of my life. We have so much in common. I love you so much, will you marry me?” She replies “Yes, of course I’ll marry you. You know where you said that we have so much in common. That’s so true. In fact now that you mention it there is something that I haven’t told you.” “Well what is that dear?” “Well it just so happens that we both have a penis…at least until my surgery next week.” The fun continues…
7:58 pm on September 15th, 2011 56
Tom Langley 55, that firm breast was the first clue.
8:24 pm on September 15th, 2011 57
Tom, a question. Would you buy a car you had not first driven? I wouldn’t.
Nor would I marry untill I had driven her as well.
8:25 pm on September 15th, 2011 58
Glans #56, Great point, lol. If you’ve ever been to a strip club & got a lap dance & were able to touch the breast of the dancer it’s like rubbing your hand over a car bumper.
8:40 pm on September 15th, 2011 59
Retired GI, I can’t argue with your logic. I’m just glad that I’ve retired & don’t have to put up with the freak show that our military is becoming. Joy Behar interviewed “Chaz” Bono tonight on her show & made him/her sound like some kind of hero when in fact he/she is just a freak that 100 years ago would have been in a circus side show. Can you believe that “Chaz” Bono is going to actually get married to a fairly attractive woman WHO KNOWS that “Chaz” Bono actually was a woman who had a sex change operation. If they have children through adoption or artificial insemination I wonder how they will explain to the children that “Chaz” Bono used to be Chastity Bono. That’ll f their brains up, THERAPY FOREVER! Suddenly I feel the need to puke.
2:53 am on September 16th, 2011 60
Weel Tom, after having met many a strange bird from the female side of the house, I will say this. There are MANY good reason for an attractive females to marry a head case like Bono.
Bono will always be able to support said beauty.
Bono will allow for a shared “stardom” of sorts for said beauty.
Bono will not be trying to “bone her” all the time.
And when said beauty is DONE with Bono, she will teach Bono what it’s really like to be a man, and sue him/her —it, for all it is worth. Lets face it. There will be no happy ending.
Mommy Cher is nuts. Sonny face planted into a tree. Their little girl now looks like an ugly man with a really small penis. The female currently with her will be there as long as it serves her purpose. Like most females.
I really don’t blame either one of them. Women marry for money, not for penis. Men marry so they can get layed. Woman smart, man not so much.
I blame CHER. Do you know why Cher cried at Sonny’s furneral? No more checks. I know. That’s a bit harsh and unfeeling. But I have met some real winners out there.
12:28 pm on September 16th, 2011 61
Retired GI #60, Excellent post!
6:15 pm on September 16th, 2011 62
Do Transexuals fall into the “three-hole-er” catagory?
Just a thought. The Army could always use more of those.
11:01 pm on September 16th, 2011 63
ASK CHICKENHEAD
Dear ChickenHead,
“Do Transexuals fall into the “three-hole-er” catagory?”
Dear Retired GI,
That depends if they are post-op or pre-op.
If they are post-op, they certainly fall into the three-hole category.
If they are pre-op, they fall into the FOUR-hole category.
Why?
Well, they have two hole…
…and so do you.
EEEEEEK!
6:58 am on September 17th, 2011 64
DAMN !!!! An angle I had (attempted to) not consider. EEEEEK — is RIGHT!
Message to future Soldiers: Beware the female? Soldier that tells you she LIKES it in the poop shut. Consult Dr. ChickenHead.
I assume that Stars & Stripes will have a section on dating advice for the X sex.
2:47 am on September 18th, 2011 65
One point that I forgot to mention in my post #59 about “Chaz” Bonehead, excuse me Bono was that at least she paid for her own sex change operation as contrasted with there is a prisoner in some southern state who is suing to HAVE THE TAXPAYERS pay for his sex change operation because he considers it cruel & unusual punishment that the taxpayers wont pay for it. I consider liberal trial lawyers who sue for bs like this to be giving cruel & unusual punishment to the taxpayers. As to the discussion of 3 or 4 holers, if one of these freaks tries to pick up a normal guy in a bar & they discover that they picked up a trannie, well Smith & Wesson might make a 10 holer out of the freak.
10:07 pm on September 18th, 2011 66
When the two-holin’ action was done,
Tom Langley wanted three-holin’ fun.
But when he saw her c0ck,
he pulled out his Glock,
and made her a fifteen plus one.
Tom L.,
I don’t know if you have read some of the stuff I posted four or more years ago… but there was never a shortage of ladyboys around Osan Air Base…
…and there was never a shortage of GIs who wound up sleeping with them.
Long story short, after a hot and heavy progression through first and second base with drunk GI Joe, they would say they couldn’t go farther because it was That Time Of The Month.
After some protests from a horny and highly disappointed GI, they suggested that maybe they could take it in back side.
Lots of guys never even knew… and, according to the “girls”, the ones that found out didn’t care enough not to complete the act.
Alcohol + loneliness + testosterone = What the Hell
10:39 pm on September 18th, 2011 67
Chickenhead, You have put me in one of your limericks so now I (through your fine literature) will live forever, what an honor. You really need to write a book. I’m glad they didn’t have that ladyboy problem when I was stationed in Korea. Let me change that to I HOPE they didn’t have that ladyboy problem when I was stationed in Korea, lol.