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By on June 16th, 2011 at 3:00 am

Korea Finder 20-11

So who can name the location of this light house?

Korea Finder Leader’s Board:

  1. Kushibo – 5
  2. Leon Laporte – 4
  3. Chickenhead – 2
  4. Cloying Odor -1
  5. Regulate – 1
  6. Max – 1
  7. Cloying Odor – 1

The person with the most points at the end of the year of the weekly Korea Finder contest will be rewarded with a book or DVD of their choice from Amazon.com.   Also note that if you have a picture that you think would make a great Korea Finder feel free to send it in to me.

Note that the Korea Finders are posted every Thursday at 0300 PDT in the US and 1900 KST in Korea.

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  • kushibo
    3:05 am on June 16th, 2011 1

    Sanji Lighthouse

  • Leon LaPorte
    3:11 am on June 16th, 2011 2

    Taejongdae
    Busan, South Korea

  • Leon LaPorte
    3:17 am on June 16th, 2011 3

    Hate to do this to you but if it was Sanji lighthouse, the LOCATION is Sarabong Cheju Island. :twisted:

  • kushibo
    3:19 am on June 16th, 2011 4

    Hate to do this to you, but if it is Sanji Lighthouse, the answer to who can name the location is “Kushibo” and/or “Leon LaPorte.” :mrgreen:

  • Leon LaPorte
    3:21 am on June 16th, 2011 5

    LOL

  • kushibo
    3:26 am on June 16th, 2011 6

    On second thought, I think it’s Marado. And that means the answer is, “Kushibo.” :D

  • kushibo
    3:42 am on June 16th, 2011 7

    Pictorial proof about this lighthouse on Korea’s southernmost land.

  • Glans
    3:43 am on June 16th, 2011 8

    It looks like another victory for Kushibo.

  • Glans
    3:45 am on June 16th, 2011 9

    It looks like another victory for Kushibo. Maybe the link will work this time.

  • Leon LaPorte
    3:52 am on June 16th, 2011 10

    I was originally going with Marado but it doesn’t look quite right. I wish I could find another pic from the same angle…

  • Leon LaPorte
    3:54 am on June 16th, 2011 11

    tGlans, There’s a building beside the lighthouse in the picture. I don’t see one in any of the Marado pics. We better wait for GI to decide…

  • kangaji
    3:56 am on June 16th, 2011 12

    Kushibo’s hawaii finder is kokohead crater….

  • kushibo
    4:17 am on June 16th, 2011 13

    Yes, it is, kanaji, and I’ve given you credit. I saw you wrote that somewhere else, but I couldn’t find it, so I didn’t do it sooner.

    Several people from here have said they have difficulty commenting on my site, but I’m not really sure what the problem is. If people such as yourself can give me feedback, I might be able to tweak some of the Blogger settings.

  • kangaji
    6:36 am on June 16th, 2011 14

    Do you have “embedded comments” enabled? It’s super buggy on blogger.

  • kushibo
    6:52 am on June 16th, 2011 15

    No, I don’t. All comments appear in chronological order. I don’t care much for embedded comments in long comments sections, though mine it wouldn’t be a problem because most posts rarely get more than ten comments.

  • Teadrinker
    7:35 am on June 16th, 2011 16

    Whatever it is, it’s still not as nice as Peggys Cove.

  • kangaji
    8:00 am on June 16th, 2011 17

    http://knownissues.blogspot.com/
    May 24 post:
    The blogspot team is aware of the problem and don’t know what the hell is going on.

    Suggest you migrate to wordpress…

  • Glans
    1:23 pm on June 16th, 2011 18

    kushibo, why must I select a profile to post a comment on your blog? What is a profile, and on what basis should I select one?

  • kushibo
    1:59 pm on June 16th, 2011 19

    It’s not as if I invented profiles. They are standard for WordPress, Blogger, etc. I had allowed anonymous commenting, such that a person could leave a comment without logging in, but there were three problems.

    First, it got very confusing between the various anonymoi. Second, a handful of people who came to my blog for reasons other than love and adulation would leave nasty and/or irrelevant comments that were simply attempts at trolling or attacks on me or other commenters, often with one such person using multiple identities to make the attacks (and sometimes co-opting other people’s identities). Third, it made it easier for spambots to leave comments.

    So that, Glans, is why a profile must be used. As for which one to select, it depends on which one you already have. Blogger allows commenting using a number of IDs, I believe, including WordPress, LiveJournal, TypePad, OpenID, and Google (which replaced the Blogger ID system). I’ve only tried with Google, but if the other options don’t work, I’d like to know.

    Do you have gmail? If so, you can use your Google account ID. If you have any of the others, use that. Do you comment at Marmot’s Hole? That would require some of the other IDs (e.g., WordPress).

  • GI Korea
    2:03 pm on June 16th, 2011 20

    Yes Kushibo did get the correct answer and has expanded his lead.

  • kushibo
    2:14 pm on June 16th, 2011 21

    Woo hoo!

    GI Korea, have you been to Marado? It’s someplace I’d thought about going to, next time I’m on Chejudo.

  • Glans
    3:33 pm on June 16th, 2011 22

    No, Kushibo 19, I don’t comment at Marmot’s Hole, either. I comment at freekorea.us and here at rokdrop.com. Joshua Stanton and GI Korea don’t ask me to jump through ‘profile’ hoops; they make me feel welcome. They’re strong, confident, brilliant men. Their blogs support vigorous, informative discussions.

  • Glans
    3:46 pm on June 16th, 2011 23

    In fact, Kushibo, I think your lack of faith in your fellow man says more about your integrity than it does about them.

  • kushibo
    3:49 pm on June 16th, 2011 24

    Ha ha… That’s me pranking Glans. I wrote that, not Glans. It is sooooo easy to fake-comment with someone else’s ID on sites with “open” comment formats if they don’t have a gravatar. In fact, this is what people were doing on my site, with other commenters’ IDs.

    Also, at Metropolitician, the former Korea Sparkling, and KoreaBeat before they “closed” the open format, there were people fake-posting as me there.

  • Glans
    5:12 pm on June 16th, 2011 25

    Thanks, kushibo. I didn’t know about gravatars, and I didn’t know how easy it is to fake-comment with someone else’s ID. The world’s finest website doesn’t accept comments, and I’m not sure if I’ll continue to comment here.

  • kushibo
    5:36 pm on June 16th, 2011 26

    Well, you should continue to comment here. I hope my little lesson/prank at #23 isn’t discouraging you.

    If someone really were to fake-post as you with malicious intent, all you’d have to do is drop GI Korea a line and he’d probably take care of it. Ditto with Joshua at One Free Korea.

    Having a gravatar is not a foolproof method either, but it’s harder to fake because you have to include the same email address as is registered with the gravatar.

  • Paul
    7:50 pm on June 16th, 2011 27

    It pretty much has to be Jeju as the cliffs are mafic. Either that or maybe Ulleungdo (haven’t seen that isle firsthand yet). Wish I saw this one competition earlier; I suspect with a quick download of a few USGS maps and a bit of Google Earth Panoramio browsing I may have a distinct advantage.

  • ChickenHead
    8:44 pm on June 16th, 2011 28

    Kushibo,

    In case you missed my previous post on the matter, I agree with Glans.

    I would have no problem with the jumping-through-hoops profile if that information stayed only with the blog. Instead, it is used to flood my inbox with various unwanted “offers”… friend requests from Facebook wannabes, virtual greeting cards, etc…

    …not to mention the tracking cookies, web bugs, pixels, ad networks, behavioral data providers, web publishers, etc., that now have a handy self-provided profile to attach to your unique Internet ID in their databases.

    Even ROK Drop is tracking its users pretty heavily… or, more accurately, the companies providing plugins and services are using ROK Drop to track the browsing habits of all of its users… and adding this information to their databases… and attaching this information to user names and e-mail addresses when possible.

    On a top level, amazon, networkedblogs, sharethis, wordpress, bravenet, googlesyndication, and blogads are all building a profile on you whenever you visit this site and any other site which they track.

    Blogads, Facebook Social Plugin, Google Adsense, ShareThis, and WordPress Stats are tracking you in a much more sinister way… one that is harder to detect, harder to avoid, and blurs the line between “providing a service” and malware…

    …private browsing and an anonymous proxy won’t protect your computer from giving a unique identification when you go looking at gay ethnic midget poorn… and if you have ever submitted your e-mail address to a site that tracks you in the same database, you have been had.

    These large companies sometimes share their data in strategic partnerships and frequently buy smaller databases from everything from political websites to poorn websites.

    This would all be OK, I guess… except in today’s society, tolerance and diversity are talked about a lot… yet the definition of “normal” keeps getting more and more narrow…

    …and the Government is buying this information and is using your on-line profiles to categorize you in various Lists… from watchlists to no-fly… and this trend isn’t going to go away.

    …and companies are increasingly using online profiles to make hiring decisions… and your on-line profile is checked before you can get credit… etc.

    This information is not nearly as private as you would wish for it to be. I have looked at some of my profiles in these databases… and there are both inaccuracies and insights… but the technology is getting better and better and better.

    I have no desire to make it easier for Them.

    On a side note, if you have a friend’s name or e-mail address, you will never need to wonder if he is gay or not.

  • kushibo
    9:37 pm on June 16th, 2011 29

    ChickenHead wrote:

    I would have no problem with the jumping-through-hoops profile if that information stayed only with the blog. Instead, it is used to flood my inbox with various unwanted “offers”… friend requests from Facebook wannabes, virtual greeting cards, etc…

    …not to mention the tracking cookies, web bugs, pixels, ad networks, behavioral data providers, web publishers, etc., that now have a handy self-provided profile to attach to your unique Internet ID in their databases.

    You say you agree with Glans, but I think you are making a statement that goes well beyond what Glans was saying.

    I’ve had some people say that they cannot leave comments, while Glans suggested it was inconvenient to use a profile to leave comments. On the other hand you are saying that you choose not to use a profile to leave comments because it allows sinister groups to build on an information set related to you.

    If that’s the way you feel, fine, but I don’t think it’s saying the same thing as either kangaji or Glans.

    I’m not so sure I agree with you, though, that you are adding any meaningful protection by not leaving comments on such a site as mine if one had an email address and profile created solely for that purpose.

    Google, in fact, forced me to make an email address solely for blogging purposes, and I now use that to leave comments at a number of sites and have done so for about two years now, but I receive no spam, offers, greeting cards, etc., at that address, so I question whether that’s a valid point.

    You may be right that a profile is being made when you visit sites, but that is happening whether or not you use a Google or WordPress profile to leave a comment. By virtue of going to my Hawaii Finder at all you would have left a crumb trail.

    Frankly, I don’t like the way that Facebook and other sites use your profile like tentacles to grab you back when you visit other sites (I was very annoyed to see that my Facebook profile had become my default profile when I visited the Los Angeles Times comments section, overriding my prior LAT-specific profile), so I am sympathetic to your concerns.

    However, by your own admission, this is happening whether one likes it or not, just by virtue of doing just about anything on the Internet, including viewing this page right now. So it seems to me that foregoing commenting on a site where one would like to leave a comment is a greater burden or cost than what “protection” it may provide.

  • ChickenHead
    11:37 pm on June 16th, 2011 30

    Kushibo,

    Ah, to be more clear…

    I agree with Glans concerning the extra step of making a profile instead of simply banging off whatever comment comes to mind and calling it a day.

    The rest is my additional thoughts.

    Making a special account for a profile doesn’t really work… as you use the same computer and same IP address range which you access all accounts from.

    There are a bunch of overlapping things that are trackable and inferable… and any one of them can be linked to your unique database ID (although, in many databases, there are many duplicate entries that are clearly the same person to a human observer… and which all show up together in a search… meaning that smarter software will recognize this in the coming years).

    I fully understand that if you choose to have an e-mail account, a smartphone, and any interaction with the Internet, multiple profiles of where you go, what you do, what you like, what you think, and who you are, are being made.

    But that doesn’t mean I need to add to that for no real return… not that posting on your blog wouldn’t be rewarding… but, I lurk here and don’t really have the time or desire to comment on every blog I come across… and a profile requirement discourages any casual comment.

    The fault is mine, steeped in skepticism and paranoia of the less-than-noble intentions of my fellow man, and not that of your fine blog.

    I could write a book on the importance of privacy… even for people who have nothing to hide.

    To sum it up in a soundbite, those who have the computational power to collect, store, assemble, and analyze every tiny piece of information will have an incredible advantage over the “little people” who do not… even more-so in an increasing information economy.

    That leaves governments and large companies with a disproportionate amount of power…

    …neither of which have shown much restraint when it comes to an ability to abuse this power…

    …although there are exceptions…

    …one which you might be familiar with is the use of browsing patterns to track and predict disease transmission.

    “However, by your own admission, this is happening whether one likes it or not, just by virtue of doing just about anything on the Internet, including viewing this page right now.”

    Not for me. How do you think I know exactly what sites are trying to track me?

    Also, Facebook are complete shytheads concerning privacy. Much of their database, as per their business model, is completely open to the public… with further details available to anybody who wants to buy them… or with friends who work for companies that bought them… and, unless it is someone rich or famous, or who brings bad attention after-the-fact, there is absolutely no safeguard on this data.

    Remember the whale-lovers who were all hateful here? I posted the longitude and latitude of one guy’s house in New Zealand and the other guy’s address in Australia… and they were never heard from again.

    That was funny at the time… but a moral failing on my part… abuse that I have resisted further temptation to do… especially to regular posters here no matter how irritating they are.

    That information chain started from innocent Deep Web eco-website tracking profiles that were super-easy to cross-reference and link to a name and address after a few steps. This process is almost fully automated.

    Organized crime and oppressive governments also have basically unlimited access to this information… with (presumably) MUCH more intelligent computers… not a friendly thought as identity theft ruins lives daily and America puts peaceful anti-war activists on the no-fly or hassle-before-fly lists.

    O.K. So that’s a long way from making a fake profile to post a comment on Hawaii Finder…

    …but that begs the question… if it is so easy to make a fake profile, why does any profile need to be made at all?

    Because fake profiles give a false sense of anonymity under the guise of security… but don’t hide anything from those who have the power to look.

    After this week, I feel in a soapbox mood… sorry.

    I invite discussion rather than lecturing… anybody have some thoughts on this whole topic?

  • Leon LaPorte
    12:27 am on June 17th, 2011 31

    Kushibo, I have a profile (I think you use wordpress? if I recall) and I cannot leave a comment. It seems to get confused when it asks for a password and becomes an instant anal>cranial loop in feedback mode (if I recall correctly). I’m quite internet savvy so the problem likely isn’t between the chair and the keyboard. If you would like, it may be possible to schedule a chat time good for both of us and perhaps I could help you troubleshoot it.

    On a side note: I have no problems with my name being copied (you could) but my picture comes up so you know it’s me. ;) No one but GI knows my email address. This system, for the most part, seems to be the lessor of evils.

  • kushibo
    12:40 am on June 17th, 2011 32

    Thanks for the feedback, LLP. Actually, my blog is Blogger (now run by Google). It was formerly kushibo.blogspot.com (and automatically sends you to the corresponding post on http://www.monster-island.net).

  • Glans
    1:11 am on June 17th, 2011 33

    31 Leon LaPorte, how do you make your picture appear in comments?

  • GI Korea
    2:53 am on June 17th, 2011 34

    Glans just go to gravatar.com and you can sign up for a unique gravatar. Every time you leave a WordPress comment using your e-mail address it will leave a picture of your gravatar. This is a way that allows people to better know that it is in fact you that is commenting.

  • Glans
    3:37 am on June 17th, 2011 35

    My gravatar is based on the acorn symbol of Britain National Trails.

 

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