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Should Schools Be Required To Teach Gay History?

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In this photo taken Tuesday, June 28 2011, State Sen. Mark Leno, D-San Francisco is seen at the Capitol in Sacramento, Calif., Leno's measure requiring public schools to teach the historical contributions of gay Americans, was approved by the Assembly on 49-25 on a party line vote, Tuesday July 5, 2011. If signed into law by Gov. Jerry Brown, California would be the first state to require public schools to include the contributions of gays and lesbians in their social studies curriculum.(AP Photo/Rich Pedroncelli)

Via the Kyunghyang Shinmun.

The way I look at it is shouldn’t kids learn how to effectively read, write, do math, & understand science before pandering to special interests in the classroom?

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  • ChickenHead
    6:29 pm on July 12th, 2011 1

    “require public schools to include the contributions of gays and lesbians in their social studies curriculum.”

    The rapid spread of AIDS…

    …do you think that will be a focus of the new curriculum or will they kinda gloss that one over.

    Spin-off applications of Crisco?

    This may require a list.

  • Leon LaPorte
    6:42 pm on July 12th, 2011 2

    Once again it is proven they do not simply want equal rights. It’s always more and more…

    Special interests groups and associations never go away. They are self sustaining. MADD is a good example however it is well known MADD’s ultimate goal is complete alcohol prohibition. So we have hidden agendas, people trying to push the envelope, people trying to keep their jobs, politics etc…

    The same will happen in the military. I promise you COL’s and GO’s will be delivering speeches at “Gay Military History Month” banquets before it’s done. Just like the lip service payed to all the women* who did so much from the revolutionary war onward…

    *not to deny or diminish the few who were directly involved

  • Sonagi
    6:50 pm on July 12th, 2011 3

    So this isn’t a history month you all can’t get behind? :oops:

  • Glans
    6:57 pm on July 12th, 2011 4

    I don’t know how we can blame the spread of AIDS on lesbians.

  • Leon LaPorte
    7:00 pm on July 12th, 2011 5

    3. I can’t really get behind any of the history months. (yes I got you pun) When is American History Month?

    They are by definition exclusionary and divisive. Perhaps they weren’t meant to be but that is how it has turned out. Anyone who says gays have no agenda and only want “equal rights,” whatever those are, are fooling themselves. They want special considerations.

    No one is “equal”. It’s the whole multiculturalism PC mumbo jumbo.

  • Glans
    7:18 pm on July 12th, 2011 6

    We have two Roman History Months, which we’ve been celebrating every summer for two millennia – Julius Month and Augustus Month.

  • Leon LaPorte
    7:23 pm on July 12th, 2011 7

    #6 Yes but where are the speeches? The luncheons? The special chow hall extravaganzas? The AAFES sales? The poetry readings? The AFN spots?

    /Where I ask you, WHERE?

  • Teadrinker
    7:33 pm on July 12th, 2011 8

    “The way I look at it is shouldn’t kids learn how to effectively read, write, do math, & understand science before pandering to special interests in the classroom?”

    Special interests including those of religious groups? I sure hope so.

  • Leon LaPorte
    7:43 pm on July 12th, 2011 9

    #8. Amen

  • Teadrinker
    7:44 pm on July 12th, 2011 10

    #5,

    I never could get that one. It sure appears divisive. What’s so difficult about picking a few noteworthy individuals and discussing their contributions (and slavery) in the regular school curriculum?

  • kangaji
    7:50 pm on July 12th, 2011 11

    Well Great Britain cut a year of history supposedly. Well, my question is, what is the time requirement? Like, are we taking one class period of time to teach gay history, and what’s the trade off in social studies there?

  • Tom Langley
    8:23 pm on July 12th, 2011 12

    I read that the law prevents talking about homosexuality in anything but a positive manner. If that is so then the law clearly violates the first amendment as it is restricting speech. If there was a discussion in a biology class of the AIDS epidemic would the fact that AIDS was originally spread in the US from city to city by a male homosexual flight attendant who knew that he was going to die but decided that his “right” to engage in sodomy was more important than the right of his sexual partners to know of his HIV status; would this discussion be illegal? Would it be illegal to point out that the average male homosexual has from 200-300 sexual partners which causes much larger than average amounts of STD’s including AIDS? Would it be illegal to point out that homosexuals have vastly higher rates of drug abuse, depression, & suicide that heterosexuals? Thanks to the liberals for bringing this to the United States Military.

  • ChickenHead
    8:53 pm on July 12th, 2011 13

    Tom L.,

    “Would it be illegal to point out that homosexuals have vastly higher rates of drug abuse, depression, & suicide that heterosexuals?”

    From the homosexuals I have known, I would be confident in saying that this mostly (totally?) comes from the internal conflict between what they want and what society tells them is “wrong”.

    Just think how depressed you would be if society said it was wrong to back-door a couple of drug-addicted illiterate teenage prostitutes dressed as schoolgirls for pocket change in a grubby bamboo hut behind a tin-sided lady bar on the edge of a muddy jungle somewhere.

    Errr… bad example.

  • ChickenHead
    9:26 pm on July 12th, 2011 14

    Glans,

    “I don’t know how we can blame the spread of AIDS on lesbians.”

    That’s because you aren’t trying hard enough.

    With the solidarity of homosexuality, lesbians joined gays in politicizing HIV rather than treating it as a public health issue.

    Kushibo, our resident public health expert, can confirm or refute this analysis.

  • Teadrinker
    9:29 pm on July 12th, 2011 15

    #12,

    The Patient Zero theory has been repudiated by the researcher who came up with it and has been exploited by a scaremongering reporter who claimed to know the identity of “Patient Zero”. The fact is that HIV had already been spreading on a wide scale long before “Patient Zero” (supposedly a Canadian flight attendant named Gaetan Dugas) had even begun traveling.

  • kushibo
    10:00 pm on July 12th, 2011 16

    ChickenHead

    Kushibo, our resident public health expert, can confirm or refute this analysis.

    Ahem, you do realize the reason I’m so hated among K-blogosphere English teachers is because I have taken the particularly un-PC position that keeping HIV as a privacy issue at this stage instead of a public health issue has killed people and will kill many more, right? To wit:

    This, ladies and gentlemen, is what we call a globalism-enforced PC standard, and make no mistake, it will mean more people dying in South Korea. Based on the state of HIV and AIDS a quarter century ago, when most cases in the US were transmitted through homosexual contact, testing for this fatal disease became a privacy issue that was deeply enmeshed with gay rights. Today, however, HIV is manageable as a chronic disease if it’s caught early, yet instead of treating HIV infection like tuberculosis, hepatitis, or prostate cancer, we still treat it in such a way that reduces the chance of survival of the already-infected and increases the likelihood of more new infections.

    Since I apply this to the Korean context by saying everyone should be tested, including ROK nationals, F-series and E-series visa holders already here, and newly arriving English teachers, I’ve become a lightning rod for criticism among certain circles.

    Anyway, to swing to the other end of the spectrum, a lack of safe-sex practices leads to HIV infection, whether homosexual or heterosexual (and most HIV-positive people are straight, globally). In the US, denying the stability of open and monogamous relationships has been a contributor, which is one reason I support same-sex marriage.

    In that regard, male and female homosexual solidarity does not necessarily mean the women are leaning toward the men’s bad acts, but pulling them toward their own (relative) stability, and therefore disease-free status. How’s that?

  • Vince
    10:43 pm on July 12th, 2011 17

    I hear tell that there are a lot of “straight” people who are HIV positive, but with all the hell raising many of us did in Asia, I am surprised that so few of the people I knew didn’t come up HIV positive- other than guys we kinda figured were gay, or later turned out to be no-kidding gay.

    Women, on the other hand, seem to be really susceptible to this horrible affliction. We just never seemed to have any of our guys who were out there pounding away on the women ever come up positive.

  • Tom Langley
    10:47 pm on July 12th, 2011 18

    Teadrinker #15, I did some internet research as a result of your comments and while you are correct that Gaetan Dugas may not be the “patient zero” it is true that when many of the early AIDS cases were traced as to who had sex with who many of them led back to Gaetan Dugas. He DID admit to have had 2500 sex partners. He did refuse to quit having unprotected sex after he found out that he was HIV positive. Many homosexuals who were extremely promiscuous did cause AIDS to spread far & wide. It’s true that most of the AIDS world wide is spread by heterosexual sex but the spread by homosexual sex is far more that the percentage of homosexuals in the population. I believe that it is still forbidden for men who have had sex with men to donate blood. The homosexual bathhouses remained open for years after AIDS was identified. The fact remains that with the repeal of DADT is that STD rates including HIV will increase. PC protestations will not change this fact. More troops are going to be HIV positive but hey at least the Democratic party will get some more political contributions from the homosexual lobby & I guess that is all that matters to them.

  • ChickenHead
    11:10 pm on July 12th, 2011 19

    Looking at the picture, you just know he is saying…

    …”Aaaaeeeyyy! The Fonz digs the ghay! Sit on it!”

  • Glans
    2:10 am on July 13th, 2011 20

    Leon LaPorte 7, all those suggestions are good, but I’d add sacrifices and games.

  • Teadrinker
    3:50 am on July 13th, 2011 21

    #18,

    The Patient Zero theory has a huge gaping hole:

    “In the patient zero study, the average length of time between sexual contact and the onset of symptoms was 10.5 months. At the time of the study it was not known that the average length of time between initial infection and AIDS is ten years.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ga%C3%ABtan_Dugas#Analysis_and_criticism

    “The fact remains that with the repeal of DADT is that STD rates including HIV will increase.”

    Sure, if you say so. Really, you’re being paranoid.

    PS. Ironically, here’s the other book Randy Shilt’s is famous for…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conduct_Unbecoming:_Gays_and_Lesbians_in_the_US_Military

  • ChickenHead
    4:42 am on July 13th, 2011 22

    “The Patient Zero theory has a huge gaping hole”

    That may or may not be true… but Patient Zero sure had a huge gaping hole.

    Bah dum-bump… ting.

  • Teadrinker
    6:21 am on July 13th, 2011 23

    #22,

    I had a feeling you’d make that joke, but alas it was too late. I had already submitted my comment.

    In any case…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_R.

  • Tom Langley
    8:14 am on July 13th, 2011 24

    Chickenhead #22, You’re un f’ing believable! After 2500 admitted sex partners I bet his a-hole was big enough to drive an Abrams main battle tank through. Teadrinker #21. You might have a point about the patient zero hypothesis although with 2500 sex partners he certainly contributed greatly to the AIDS epidemic along with other male homosexuals with similar hyper-promiscuous conduct. I thought I got a lot of tail when I was stationed in Korea but 2500 sex partners, this guy was in a class by himself. Teadrinker, with the hyper-promiscuous conduct that I was alluding to which is all to common among male homosexuals, my believe that STD rates including AIDS with vastly increase in the post DADT US Military I submit are not paranoid, it’s just a logical extension of the facts. The facts are that post DADT there will be more homosexuals in the force. Male homosexuals as a group are more promiscuous than heterosexuals. Male homosexuals have a higher rate of STD’s than heterosexuals. Therefore military STD rates WILL increase. Please don’t let political correctness interfere with your logic.

  • Teadrinker
    5:31 pm on July 13th, 2011 25

    “Teadrinker, with the hyper-promiscuous conduct that I was alluding to which is all to common among male homosexuals, my believe that STD rates including AIDS with vastly increase in the post DADT US Military I submit are not paranoid, it’s just a logical extension of the facts.”

    Right, because American soldiers aren’t promiscuous and your military doesn’t have high STD rates. I think you can agree that there are a few hookers in Ittaewon who would beg to differ.

    Fact is, you’re basing your assertion on one guy who was slutty by most standards. Would I be wrong to do the same, using Wilt Chamberlain’s 20000 women claim as proof that straight men are far more promiscuous?

  • ChickenHead
    11:58 pm on July 13th, 2011 26

    Teadrinker… I have to agree with Tom L here.

    Guys, straight and gay, pretty much want to screw all the time.

    Straight guys are limited by the lack of cash for prostitutes and the lack of willing females.

    Gay guys don’t have these limitations.

    The currently high rates of promiscuity and disease you gloated about are certainly not going to get any better… or stay the same… ergo, Tom L is right by default.

  • Glans
    12:55 am on July 14th, 2011 27

    Schools should be required to teach Canadian history.

  • Teadrinker
    4:41 am on July 14th, 2011 28

    #27,

    Maybe you should. You might learn that allowing gays in the military won’t cause the Armageddon.

  • vince
    5:08 am on July 14th, 2011 29

    Maybe not- but it will be teh ghey!

    That said, I’m looking forward to “Famous People who Shag Farm Animals Month”. Those people are so brave, putting up with the stigma, the lanolin, the fuzzy fur balls stuck to their pants.

    Time to celebrate their courage, too!

  • vince
    5:09 am on July 14th, 2011 30

    Then there’s going to have to be the “People who are just TOO ugly to Funk Month”. They, too, are an unappreciated and courageous victim class.

  • Glans
    3:08 pm on July 14th, 2011 31

    GI Korea’s headline shows his bias. This is not just a bill for gays! It’s a balanced requirement to recognize lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people. Here’s the AP story at Fox News. I’d suggest one addition: ambiguous genitalia.

  • Retired GI
    3:52 pm on July 14th, 2011 32

    Hey Glans #31. You can draw a line of distinction between those various degrees of Freaks all you want. Bottom line is that they all belong to one group. That groups #1 preoccupation is sex. Above all else. (and they still can’t figure it out)

    The fact that you find some kind of “bias” in the frigging TITLE, shows that you can’t see the forest for the trees.

  • Tom
    4:00 pm on July 14th, 2011 33

    They do not need to teach gay-ism in American schools. At least half of Americans are either already gay or secret closet gays. :lol:

  • Glans
    4:03 pm on July 14th, 2011 34

    Maybe they should teach conservative history. Eric Bolling of Fox News says, ‘America was certainly safe between 2000 and 2008 … I don’t remember any terrorist attacks on American soil during that period of time.’ Oliver Willis has the video.

  • Retired GI
    4:20 pm on July 14th, 2011 35

    I see you failed to defend your gay pride Glans.

    As for Bolling, at least he knows there are only 50 states. Unlike your Muslim raised Messiah that thinks there are 57 states in the union. What? What? Are you going to say Obama “misspoke”? Too late.

    The Huffington Post informed me before you did Glans.

  • Teadrinker
    5:14 pm on July 14th, 2011 36

    “That groups #1 preoccupation is sex.”

    Since you Americans like Sigmund Freud so much…the driving force behind most major decisions you make is libido. Working your ass off to get more money? So you can get laid. Bought yourself a shiny new car? So you can get laid. Like to wear nice clothes? So you can get laid. I think you get the picture.

    You can make a conscious decision not to have children, but subconsciously procreation (and libido) still shape most aspects of your life.

  • kushibo
    5:15 pm on July 14th, 2011 37

    Retired GI, go find the audio of that and listen to it. It’s pretty obvious he misspoke. Pretty much same as Sarah Palin and the standing with North Korea comment.

    Glans wrote:

    Eric Bolling of Fox News says, ‘America was certainly safe between 2000 and 2008 …

    That is pretty dumb, but what’s really dumb is that he seems to be trying to describe the Bush43 administration, but 2000 was the Clinton administration.

  • Teadrinker
    5:34 pm on July 14th, 2011 38

    #34,

    :roll:

    Notice how he first says he “doesn’t remember” any terrorist attacks? It’s a means to make a statement which he knows is demonstratively false.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_attacks

  • ChickenHead
    5:43 pm on July 14th, 2011 39

    “Since you Americans like Sigmund Freud so much…the driving force behind most major decisions you make is libido.”

    Chicks dig it when you respond to Teadrinker.

  • Vince
    7:30 pm on July 14th, 2011 40

    I thought we were supposed to embrace these people as “normal”.

    So why not go that route, and forego the special snowflake stuff?

    The fact that Famous Guy “A” craved the c@ck shouldn’t be what we celebrate about the guy. Enough already. We should celebrate that he was a great guy because of whatever it was that made him great.

    Good grief.

  • Glans
    9:03 pm on July 14th, 2011 41

    I don’t like Freud, Teadrinker 36, I like you.

  • Tom Langley
    9:59 pm on July 14th, 2011 42

    Glans, what’s next? Are we going to pass a law mandating teaching the history of famous bestialist, necrophiliacs, and pediophiles?

  • Glans
    10:33 pm on July 14th, 2011 43

    No, Tom Langley 42, I changed my mind. I now advocate conservative education, as I noted in Glans 34.

  • Tom Langley
    12:29 am on July 15th, 2011 44

    Glans, the link you had obviously shows somebody making a ignorant comment but a course teaching the philosophy of Walt Williams, Milton Friedman, Barry Goldwater, Gorge Will, Adam Smith, James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, Margaret Thatcher, & Ronald Reagan; now that’s a GREAT idea. I wish Michelle Malkin was teaching the course, she could tie me up and do whatever she wanted if I could get some extra credit, lol.

  • Glans
    1:38 am on July 15th, 2011 45

    Yes, Tom Langley, Barry Goldwater was a creative thinker. If we had pursued his idea of defoliating infiltration routes with low-yield nukes, we wouldn’t have all these problems with agent orange.

  • kangaji
    7:12 am on July 15th, 2011 46

    OK Glans, I’ll vote for President Johnson on the third. The stakes are too high for me to stay home.

  • Retired GI
    7:54 am on July 15th, 2011 47

    Kushibo #37, WOW! Touchy when it comes to the Muslim raised Messiah, are you not? I don’t think the President of 50 states should have “misspoke” that obviously. But I can understand his confusion since he was raised in the Muslim Faith. Which should have been obvious to you. For some reason — it wasn’t.

    Teadrinker #38, I don’t remember ALL the Terror Attacks myself. There are just too damn many. Islam is the religion of Terror. I guess I should print out a list and keep it with me. Should I start with the 1972 Munich Massacre, the murder of 11 Israeli athletes by a group of Palestinian Extremist? Or go further back.

    As for gays, they are not average individuals. They do not WANT to be “average” Joe’s & Jane’s. The idea is to be special and to be treated as special. (receive Special Treatment) That is the goal.

    I get it. I really do! If I were still active duty, I would become a Gay Muslim. Then I, an Anglo-American, could be a member of TWO “SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS”! No one could touch me then ;-) I’d be kinda like an African-American WOMAN. :grin:

    ChickenHead. I need your help. I need a list of GAY / MUSLIM names.

    After thought for Teadrinker: Why did I pick as my second vehicle a 1985 Chevy pickup with steel bumpers, a Warn winch, mudder tires that needs a paint job?
    Or—Why did I plant a rose bed in my front yard? Or—Why am I soon to plant Crepe Myrtles around the border of my almost acre?

  • kangaji
    9:59 am on July 15th, 2011 48

    Actually, Retired GI, you might get kicked out for fradulent enlistment since you enlisted before the policy came into effect if you suddenly became gay and were still on active duty. The army hasn’t really been especially vocal about that.

    Then again, would your command actually pursue kicking you out once the ttong-storm from the 1506 started?

  • kangaji
    10:05 am on July 15th, 2011 49

    Actually, this is a coming KUSO TSUNAMI I’ve been dreading once the effective date actually comes into play.

  • Tom Langley
    12:02 pm on July 15th, 2011 50

    Retired GI #47, I’ll let Chickenhead come up with some “Gay”/Muslim names but I can tell you that a lot of them have immigrated from Fudgepackistan.

  • Tom Langley
    12:09 pm on July 15th, 2011 51

    Glans #45, You’re right, if we had nuked the Ho Chi Minh trail the NVA & the Vietcong would have glowed in the dark which would have made it much easier to kill those godless communists, lol. Maybe we could try the idea in Afghanistan & Iraq.

  • Tom Langley
    12:37 pm on July 15th, 2011 52

    Retired GI, I could never beat CH but how about Sodomy Hustlin (Saddam Hussein), A-hola Kahorny (Ayatolla Khomeni), & O-sucka been Laid (Osama Bin Laden).

 

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