By This is not good:
The U.S. government on Wednesday vowed full cooperation in the investigation into an alleged rape by an American soldier of a young Korean woman near a military base north of Seoul, according to the South Korean Embassy in Washington.
Assistant Secretary of State for East Asian and Pacific Affairs Kurt Campbell telephoned Amb. Han Duck-soo hours after a news report that the 21-year-old Army private, assigned to the 2nd Infantry Division in Dongducheon, had raped the 18-year-old woman at around 4 a.m. Saturday.
She was watching television in her rented room in downtown Dongducheon, where several military bases are located, according to investigators.
Police identified the soldier through a closed-circuit television camera installed near the room and informed the U.S. military of the case.
After turning himself in to police, the soldier was quoted as saying that he can’t remember exactly what happened as he was drunk.
Police sent the case to prosecutors.Campbell expressed regret over the incident in his conversation with the ambassador, the embassy said in a press release.
The assistant secretary also said “the U.S. government will closely cooperate with the South Korean government for thorough investigation into this case,” it added. [Korea Times]
Normally I would say lets wait and see how the facts turn out on these rape accusations, due to past false rape claims, but the fact that Kurt Campbell has already issued a statement of regret for the rape shows that the US authorities are probably pretty convinced of the Soldier’s guilt.
She hasn’t seen...
9:35 am on September 29th, 2011 1
I was recently in Anjong-ri and Songtan on a payday Saturday.
Funking depressing.
With breathalizers looking for trouble at the gate and the threat of off-limits for clubs that don’t rip off servicemembers with watered-down drinks, GI Joe has no reason to stay in the protected bar districts… and clubs cannot do anything special to keep them there.
Instead, GI Joe goes out into Real Korea where there are no controls… and he causes unmanaged irritation.
Usually, this is just loud/menacing/irritating presence, unreported assault/theft/vandalism, and eye rape… but sometimes it is something more…
…which is unnecessary complications for “the alliance”…
…which could be solved if USFK would just allow GI Joe to be GI Joe in the lower-consequence, managed, and supervised bar districts where Good Neighbors put business over nationalism/sensitivities/legalities and GI Joe won’t lose his career after a night of simple team-building heavy drinking.
This action by “leadership” which causes real problems in the interests of avoiding imaginary problems is a trend which needs recognition.
This is indicative of many of the self-created problems facing America right now.
If anybody is interested, I will give y’all a detailed explanation of what is going to happen in American society in the next ten to fifteen years… followed by a quick future-history of what to expect in the next hundred years.
I got the scoop… so to speak.
If it makes you feel any better, this kind of stupid thinking by USFK “management” will be gone soon… by necessity… though don’t feel too good… as it will be gone by ugly reality rather than brilliant realization.
12:05 pm on September 29th, 2011 2
ChickenHead, I’m always interested in what you have to say. Send to nastynick69@hotmail.com.
I’m real sad to hear what has happened to my ville in Anjung ri. I spent 8 years there and had a damn fine time. Not always in the ville, sometimes on tours and of course Itaewon, when it really did have a NICE selection of Hookers for rent on Hooker Hill. Gone now. I can tell you this, If I were to go there now, from what you discribe, I would have never re-uped, much less extend in Korea.
If you treat young men like children, they will act like children.
We had our drunks. We took care of them. We didn’t have assigned “buddies”. We had our friends, and we didn’t need to be told to take care of each other.
More importantly, we had a damn good time. Some of us got into trouble. My company was known by the MPs for climing onto rooftops to take a leak. No, I can not explain that. Rape did happen — on post. I question if they were real rapes. Off post and down range: the Hookers were too well priced and the college girls usually paid for the room. Any Korean woman not working in the bar would always pay for the room. I miss it so. Glad I took Pictures! No, not those pictures.
12:57 pm on September 29th, 2011 3
You know it’s interesting how you would bring up this rape case (
as I brought this topic up in the open topic thread which was deleted by USInKorea for some reason……, along with the 2008 case where the GI was cleared of raping a woman.
I love it how you bring this story up and say he’s probably guilty, then plant just enough doubt on the minds of the readers by also bringing up the 2008 story of GI being cleared of rape.
It’s the old shift forward one step, then two steps backwards strategy. You want to cover yourself just in the case the GI is really guilty of raping the 18 year old girl (you figure he’s probably really is guilty), but what you really want to say is that Korean police unjustly charge innocent American GI’s because they are racist and anti-American.
But let’s look at the 2008 case. It was the Korean police who cleared the GI, from rape. Yeah, the same racist anti-American Korean police who’s trying hard to pin every crime on the GI’s.
3:58 pm on September 29th, 2011 4
Right after an army wide stand down to say the whole unit will be held responsible for not keeping an eye on joe. Sharp training. Wow. What an azhole
4:04 pm on September 29th, 2011 5
Why don’t you post on the nest Open Thread?
4:04 pm on September 29th, 2011 6
next
4:16 pm on September 29th, 2011 7
Holy crap. But once again CH is right. You can’t ship these guys far from home and expect them to be celibate for a year, or more…
USFK has exerted so much pressure on the villes that the price of ass has sky rocketed for those willing to risk providing it, and those who can afford it. Add to this dumbass drunk GI and you’ve got a problem. I’d still like to see if these two had ever had any interaction before this or if it was another random B&E consummated by sexual assault.
6:50 pm on September 29th, 2011 8
Tom #3, I have no idea if the soldier in question in guilty or not, let a court determine this. IF he is found guilty then I say lock his piper up for as long as the law allows.
7:24 pm on September 29th, 2011 9
Tom should hope the Koreans let the military handle it, but they won’t. I predict, if guilty, he will get 5-7 years in the Chonan Korean Foreigner Disney Land. If it was the US military on the other hand, I would predict 20-30 in Leavenworth.
/ah the price of pride
7:41 pm on September 29th, 2011 10
…and here we go. What soldiers has USFK ever refused to turn over after a serious off duty crime?
A female student in her teens was allegedly sexually assaulted by a drunk U.S. soldier in the middle of the night at her residence in Dongducheon, Gyeonggi Province. The same town was the site of a physical assault and attempted sexual assault on an old couple in February, also by a U.S. soldier.
The incident is expected to have a major impact, as it was reported that although the soldier responsible for the latest assault made a complete confession to police, he returned to the base without being placed under arrest due to the terms of the Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA).
Blaming the inequality of the SOFA’s terms for the inability to arrest a U.S. soldier who committed a serious crime, civic organizations and political parties, including the main opposition Democratic Party (DP) and minor opposition Democratic Labor Party (DLP), urged the swift establishment of measures to prevent additional crimes by U.S. forces, including a full amendment of the SOFA and enactment of legislation to prohibit nighttime travel by U.S. forces.
The Dongducheon Police Station reported Thursday that “K,” a 21-year-old private with the U.S. 2nd Infantry Division, was questioned on charges of entering a Dongducheon gositel apartment while intoxicated at around 4 a.m. on Sept. 24 and threatening and repeatedly sexually assaulting 18-year-old “G,” who had been watching television at the time. Following the questioning, the private was handed over to U.S. military police, the police station reported.
G sustained an approximately 2cm laceration to the palm of her hand while attempting to fend off the attacker, and received hospital treatment.
After receiving G’s report at around 8:50 a.m. on Sept. 24, police verified K‘s identity through closed circuit camera footage from near the apartment and the U.S. base entrance. After reporting this to the U.S. forces, the police had K report for questioning on Sept. 26.
At the police station, K admitted the crime, saying that he did not remember clearly because he had been drunk, but that he thought he had gone into an apartment and committed a crime.
U.S. 2nd Infantry Division Commander Edward C. Cardon immediately issued a statement expressing profound dismay and his apologies to the victim’s family members and the South Korean people.
Unable even to request an arrest warrant for K because of the SOFA, police forwarded the case to prosecutors Wednesday. According to the police manual for SOFA cases, they are empowered only to incarcerate and investigate soldiers who are caught in the act perpetrating heinous crimes such as rape, without transferring the suspect to U.S. military authorities.
Dongducheon Police State investigation chief Hwang Ui-min explained the reason for K’s release without arrest, saying, said, “For U.S. forces crimes, the SOFA permits us to have detentions and investigations in cases where [the suspect] is caught in the act or before he has returned to base, but once he has returned to base we have to submit a separate transfer request to the U.S. military.”
An official with the Uijeongbu District Prosecutors’ Office said, “Our plan is to decide on the handling of the suspect, including the possibility of arrest, after additional investigation.”
The official that no schedule had yet been set for an indictment.
Civic organizations and political parties issued strong criticisms of the passive behavior by investigation authorities, noting that K has been at the base for over five days even after he was identified as the culprit and confessed during questioning.
During a parliamentary audit of the Gyeonggi Provincial Police Agency on Thursday, DP Lawmaker Jang Se-hwan said, “After concealing the incident, the Dongducheon Police Station chief carried out a biased investigation of a U.S. soldier. We need to relieve the Dongducheon Police Station chief of his post and hold him accountable.”
In a statement, the DLP urged the government to amend the SOFA to remove toxic provisions and establish measures to eradicate crimes by U.S. forces. “As long as the SOFA exists to give USFK extraterritoriality, the crimes by U.S. forces will not stop,” the statement said.
North Gyeonggi-area civic groups are planning to hold a press conference Friday morning in front of Camp Casey in Dongducheon to call for K’s immediate arrest and investigation, an official apology from the U.S. President, and the full amendment of SOFA.
The U.S. State Department expressed its profound regrets Wednesday (local time) and said it would cooperate with the South Korean government for a thorough investigation. Deputy Secretary of State Bill Burns and Assistant Secretary of State for East Asian and Pacific Affairs Kurt Campbell called South Korean Ambassador to the United States Han Duck-soo on Thursday to express their dismay over the incident, telling Han that the U.S. government would cooperate closely with the South Korean government to ensure a thorough investigation of the incident, the South Korean Embassy in Washington reported.
It is unusual for senior U.S. State Department authorities to express their regrets so quickly, less than one day after the United States Forces Korea (USFK) sexual assault case came to light. Observers attributed this to the U.S. having learned the lesson that incidents involving the U.S. and USFK in particular, such as the 2002 death of two female middle school students from being crushed by a U.S. armored vehicle, could lead to an uncontrollable situation of spreading anti-American sentiment.
Additionally, the fact that the U.S. State Department took direct diplomatic action separately from a USFK apology indicates that it is watching public opinion on the incident within South Korea that closely. Observers said this may also have shown concern about possible negative effects on the South Korea-U.S. summit mood ahead of President Lee Myung-bak’s November visit to the United States as a state guest, and about the South Korean political calendar, including the possibility of the incident becoming a major issue during the Seoul mayoral by-election.
The U.S. executive also responded swiftly in May when allegations surfaced about the burial of defoliant at a U.S. military base in Waegwan, North Gyeongsang.
http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/498717.html
7:50 pm on September 29th, 2011 11
Andre Fisher has no reason to pout.
Shower time will be fun, no doubt.
For it’s never a fail,
with a raapist in jail,
as he’s not shy about putting out.
9:19 pm on September 29th, 2011 12
“In a statement, the DLP urged the government to amend the SOFA to remove toxic provisions and establish measures to eradicate crimes by U.S. forces. “As long as the SOFA exists to give USFK extraterritoriality, the crimes by U.S. forces will not stop,” the statement said.”
Oh yeah, crime will stop when the SOFA is changed :rolleyes:
9:42 pm on September 29th, 2011 13
“Tom #3, I have no idea if the soldier in question in guilty or not, let a court determine this. IF he is found guilty then I say lock his piper up for as long as the law allows.”
The highschool girl, aged 18 Korean age which means 17, Western age, was watching TV at her home. The creep busted in with a sharp weapon, took her hostage and raped her for 10 hours. The girl was stabbed on the hands repeatedly while resisting his rape.
Yeap, he’s guilty as sin.
But of course, there will be Americans who will say he was framed and he is being unfairly arrested, and tried. And that he is innocent, or that the girl wanted it. There will be support groups made up by ESL crowd, and the family members of the rapist who will say, their son would never do such a thing. They will say that their son will get tortured and die in Korean prison.
It’s all predictable. Watch.
9:44 pm on September 29th, 2011 14
The same crowd, I predict, will protest in Korean embassy in Washington, there will be internet web sites made to support this creep who is supposedly innocent, and that Koreans are racists maniacs who have no problems putting innocent Americans in prisons, because they are anti-American fascists.
It’s all predictable. You watch.
10:33 pm on September 29th, 2011 15
Just leftest’s making noise as usual. The base will hand him over to the ROK’s the moment the ROK’s request that he be handed over. Blaming the USFK for not handing him over before the ROK’s made a request is kinda ridiculous. It’s a bureaucracy, there is paperwork that needs filed and bureaucrats to get head nods from. The Korean’s in their Confucian style history should perfectly understand this.
If he did it, burn him.
11:14 pm on September 29th, 2011 16
http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_entertainment/498738.html Our friends over at the hani put in their 2 cents, equating this drunken loser with the human scum from Inhwa school who repeatedly rape and abused disabled children….something tells me this soldier won’t be getting a suspended sentence though.
3:07 am on September 30th, 2011 17
I think the “ugly reality” to which CH refers is that America is broke, the Europeans are broke, the global economy is in shambles and is within a stone’s throw of total collapse, and the reason this type of “stupid thinking by USFK management” won’t be a problem in the future is because there won’t be any USFK here to do the stupid thinking. Is that correct Chicken Head?
10:24 am on September 30th, 2011 18
I wasn’t going to bring this up, but since Tom threw down the race card…
You know, you can get all sorts of slack if you do heinous things in Korea while drunk: http://www.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/380148.html . The Joe in question appears to have been drunk. Unless the rules have changed, he shouldn’t be thumped too hard. Its not like he raped an 8 year old!
10:54 am on September 30th, 2011 19
Frank,
America is broke. The Europeans are broke. The global economy is in shambles and is within a stone’s throw of a total collapse.
But USFK will still be here… they will just have priorities other than chasing down some GI with a Breathalizer.
History has a very predictable cycle… and we are now in or arriving at the beginning of the darkest part of that cycle.
Everyone here knows it is coming… and feels it with each day of creeping unease… with each tiny piece of society which publicly unravels in slow motion on our TVs, news sites, and blogs… while our leaders smile and say there is no problem… yet prepare for problems.
And, perhaps, many even wish for the coming crisis to end the almost-unbearable tension and unquestionably begin in an understandable way…
…partially because an overwhelming crisis requiring a unified society working tirelessly together and making the necessary sacrifices to implement pragmatic solutions will bring about the quick death of the devisive cultural pollution and political nonsense which is grossly mismanaging national priorities.
…and partially due to a sick curiosity of what interesting entertainment, like 9/11 or a continuing nuclear accident, will be brought about by a global financial and military crisis… assuming, of course, that it has little real personal effect.
But it will, for most, have quite a bit of personal effect… unrecoverably life-altering in some parts of the world… and a time to put many dreams on hold in others.
History will remember the current generation much as we remember those who lived through the depression and World War II…
…just as they remembered the generation which lived through the Civil War… just as they remembered the generation which lived through the Revolutionary War… just as they remembered the generation which lived through Metacomet’s War… just as they remembered the generation which lived through the Anglo–Spanish War… just as they remembered the generation which lived through the War of the Roses… etc.
All of these events climaxed a very obvious cycle of 80 to 100 years.
This cycle’s irritatingly-unnecessary political correctness is last cycle’s irritatingly-unnecessary Prohibition. The consciousness-expanding of the 60s was this cycle’s Great Awakenings. The national expansion and enthusiasm from the end of World War II to the assassination of Kennedy is a repeat of the Gilded Age after the Civil War and the Era of Good Feeling after the Revolutionary War.
History doesn’t exactly repeat itself… but it rhymes… and we are now on the last and darkest line of a quatrain.
But, once this is over, we will start the new verse with a very pleasant line… in about 10 to 15 years.
And it will be written by practical self-reliant people who have absolutely no use for the bullshyt society is currently pushing and allowing to be pushed.
Sleep tight.
11:52 am on September 30th, 2011 20
A year ago, “TOM” according to this site was a supposedly jjangkke or an island jjangkke who wanted to distort facts and wanted to troll(pit) Koreans against the western society. Who are those people and what are they saying now?
Oh wait and as a Korean I would like to thank all the white gods
who saved us koreans from Japan and the commies. Give me some more of those expired sausages and chocolates! YEAH! We’re so thankful we would like to offer all our teenage girls so they can please your warriors who protect us. Yeah and they can take that 5000 won too.
12:27 pm on September 30th, 2011 21
#20
I’m still here.
Korea was saved from japan and commies. What more do you want?
4:09 pm on September 30th, 2011 22
#20: You’re welcome
!
4:37 pm on September 30th, 2011 23
I like your line of thinking Chickenhead. I have to respectfully disagree on your comment that everybody here knows it’s coming though. Many people do not, and are totally unaware and unprepared for the changes you speak of. I see them unraveling before my eyes on a daily basis. I don’t say that arrogantly either. I say it with much empathy for my fellow man. We are much more connected than most people realize. That goes for “all” of us, even Tom.
Best of luck to you, and here’s to a better world for our children!
5:04 pm on September 30th, 2011 24
This is what happens when most of U.S.soldiers are failures and undesirables.
6:31 pm on September 30th, 2011 25
Its Friday afternoon and it’s time for a safety brief. Normally, we get a barrage of garbage about what not to do. Every once in a while we get an education about what one of our civilized neighbors decided to do in the previous week. My CDR spins this story:
“One of your peers in 2ID walked into an orphanage in Dongducheon, tried every door until he found one open, and proceeded to walk into that room and rape the 16 year old girl who was watching TV in there. It’s bad enough that she had no family and now she’s getting raped by a soldier that had no business being there. Of course, there’s CCTV everywhere, for all of you that have been in the Ville you know this…..you can’t hide, you will get caught.”
The crime is heinous enough. Did it really need to get turned into a Stage Saga? These lies, they distract from the original point, and I wonder who is the master and engineer of them. I have to stop, because to think any further is going to get me court-martialled, like a thoughtcrime.
I could go on all day about conspiracy theories and such, but that would be mad.
From there we got the battle buddy speech, and that now there is a mandatory policy that you must have another individual with you at all times when going off post. The MPs proved this point when I drove out of the gate, stopping me to ask where I was going. Home, I replied, and they waved me away. I knew why they stopped me, but the lack of explanation was just going to annoy or confuse those who didn’t get the memo.
I feel like a child.
And for the most part, it’s this line of thinking that is doing everyone in. If you treat an entire population a certain way, eventually they will succumb, especially with the amount of control exercised on soldiers. Hook line and sinker we will take it, until the establishment starts to wonder what is happening to the free thinking independent minded warriors they want. Can’t have both, I’m afraid.
And on our end of indiscipline, its also because to do any sort of NJP, Art. 15 or 32, it takes an entire year practically to make anything happen. At least in my neck of the woods it takes an act of God practically to get an action though, and they want your great grandmother’s recipe for cherry cobbler and a feather from a phoenix. We’re broke from the top down and the bottom up. I don’t excuse soldiers from doing terrible and unsightly things. But surprised? Absolutely not.
I agree that the system is jacked. Who is to blame? The soldier, the establish, his mom for smoking while in gestation? I don’t know. These are the things I could argue until I’m blue in the face. Three things I do know:
1. Soldiers in this place feel like there are no consequences for their actions.
2. For many, being in this place is like an excerpt from Lost in Translation without the hot leading actors and love story.
3. This duty assigment provides no one (at least in my experience thus far) with a feeling of duty, worth, accomplishment or selfless service. And after awhile, with no feeling of fulfillment, one may look for less than honorable things to occupy themselves with.
I’m not saying that this soldier is blameless-quite the opposite. But the perfect storm we’re all caught in really isn’t helping the wicked.
9:31 pm on September 30th, 2011 26
20.Thanks for the offer! This poem should help you to better understand The White Man’s Burden.
Take up the White Man’s burden–
Send forth the best ye breed–
Go bind your sons to exile
To serve your captives’ need;
To wait in heavy harness,
On fluttered folk and wild–
Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
Half-devil and half-child.
Take up the White Man’s burden–
In patience to abide,
To veil the threat of terror
And check the show of pride;
By open speech and simple,
An hundred times made plain
To seek another’s profit,
And work another’s gain.
Take up the White Man’s burden–
The savage wars of peace–
Fill full the mouth of Famine
And bid the sickness cease;
And when your goal is nearest
The end for others sought,
Watch sloth and heathen Folly
Bring all your hopes to nought.
Take up the White Man’s burden–
No tawdry rule of kings,
But toil of serf and sweeper–
The tale of common things.
The ports ye shall not enter,
The roads ye shall not tread,
Go mark them with your living,
And mark them with your dead.
Take up the White Man’s burden–
And reap his old reward:
The blame of those ye better,
The hate of those ye guard–
The cry of hosts ye humour
(Ah, slowly!) toward the light:–
“Why brought he us from bondage,
Our loved Egyptian night?”
Take up the White Man’s burden–
Ye dare not stoop to less–
Nor call too loud on Freedom
To cloke your weariness;
By all ye cry or whisper,
By all ye leave or do,
The silent, sullen peoples
Shall weigh your gods and you.
Take up the White Man’s burden–
Have done with childish days–
The lightly proferred laurel,
The easy, ungrudged praise.
Comes now, to search your manhood
Through all the thankless years
Cold, edged with dear-bought wisdom,
The judgment of your peers!
9:43 pm on September 30th, 2011 27
25. The more you clench your fist, the more that squeezes between ones fingers. The leadership destroyed the ville culture which served USFK and our allies, the Koreans, well: for many decades.It’s ironic that the evangelical leadership has made our military “more evil”. Then again, maybe not…
The lack of leadership, the feminization and religious radicalization of the military are surely to blame. It’s about OER’s, serving Jebus and making sure senators daughters wouldn’t feel uncomfortable (though none serve) but it is what it is. And this is the end result.
Me? I’m merely a functionary on the fringes of Empire.
10:39 pm on September 30th, 2011 28
27. Couldn’t agree more. The more poli-religious red tape that gets put up, the more the snake constricts, loving its prey to death. The back-arsewards way we go about things is slowly choking us out, and Kapshi-kapshida isn’t helping us when it’s done with the worst of intentions.
11:18 pm on September 30th, 2011 29
Piano Man… er… Rapist Man
It’s four AM on a Saturday
and a drunk GI tries all the doors.
He is checking the scene in an orphanage
’cause USFK banned all the whores.
He says, “Girl, don’t you scream now.
I’m sorry but this’s how it goes.
Today’s military won’t fulfill my needs
unless I’m gay, or I wear women’s clothes.”
la la la, di da da
La la, di di da da dum
Chorus:
So rape us some girls, horny GI.
Rape us some girls tonight.
They expect a young man to just use his hand
while they go home to their wife.
Now Good Neighbors at bars aren’t friends of ours.
They push watered-down drinks at a price.
And with low-class biitches watched by CID snitches
they have to think ’bout selling them twice.
GI says, “Mama, I believe this is killing me,”
as the smile ran away from his lips.
“My balls are blue so what can I do?
My pay won’t cover juice, barfine, and tips.”
Oh, la la la, di da da
La la, di da da da dum
Now the Colonel’s checking zero-defect boxes
and has once-a-week sex with his wife.
And he’s talkin’ with Chief who sometimes slips beef
to to young airmen who work on his flight.
And the General is practicing politics
pushing fake ethics until he’s retired.
With paperwork fun, he claims Stuff’s Bein’ Done
then at a defense contractor, he will be hired.
Chorus:
So rape us some girls, horny GI,
Rape us some girls in the butts.
They want a strong team, who is hard and is mean
but they don’t want them to have any nuts.
It’s a typical scene for a Saturday
and the police have to look for some fools.
And we know what it means with another crime scene
USFK will make more restrictive new rules.
And the soldiers get treated like children
when they need wall-to-wall and some azz.
Instead of recruiting saviors, they just issue waivers
And say, “But our force is better than in the past.”
Oh, la la la, di da da
La la, di da da da dum
Chorus:
So rape us some girls, horny GI,
Rape us some girls up the road.
They don’t understand, that being a man
means sometimes blasting a load.
So rape us some girls, horny GI,
Rape us some girls with your junk.
They want a promotion so you have to use lotion
or go rape some girls while you’re drunk.
11:31 pm on September 30th, 2011 30
29. THE BEST EVAR! 5 stars, would read again. *golf clap*
2:16 am on October 2nd, 2011 31
Chickenhead, The Master has struck again!
10:05 am on October 2nd, 2011 32
Just as I said, the ESL cafe crowd is saying that the Koreans have framed the GI. They’re bashing the Koreans left right and center.
They can’t explain the fact that it was caught on tape, with the GI, his face clearly on video, searching through the shoe racks, to see which room had women.
He found an open room, then proceeded to tie her hands together with her legs, then raping her for four hours. He also stuck a pen into her vagina and attempted to light the pen with his lighter.
Instead of this GI being the bad guy, it’s the Koreans fault again for being allegedly anti-American. The focus is again turned onto the Koreans. Amazing.
11:34 am on October 2nd, 2011 33
#32 Link?
I did a search for rape in the General Discussion area and didn’t see anything. I did another site-wide search and didn’t see anything. I scanned quickly until the dates were too old…
2:21 pm on October 2nd, 2011 34
#32
As I pointed out before, everyone can always find a comment posted somewhere on the Internet to support the wildest claims, even if they have to write it themselves. If it’s anonymous and non-authoritative, what’s the point?
3:27 am on October 3rd, 2011 35
For your information, legal matters in the Republic of Korea go by the so-called Western or calendar age, not the traditional “Korean age.”
7:37 am on October 3rd, 2011 36
With the end of DADT it is just a matter of time until USA soldiers start raping males in Korea as well. Thanks God I’m not In Korea now
11:38 am on October 3rd, 2011 37
USA soldiers should be shamed of this crime. Whatever the president of USA give speeches to justify thier violence, this is the clear evidence what you are doing over the world. Higher ethcial standard and more education to stupid soldier will be required to prevent this kind of crime.
12:19 pm on October 3rd, 2011 38
“With the end of DADT it is just a matter of time until USA soldiers start raping males in Korea as well.”
No, Dr. Yu… raping MORE of them.
http://www.stripes.com/news/sergeant-gets-30-years-in-sexual-assault-on-s-korean-soldier-1.2035
Dean,
“more education to stupid soldier will be required to prevent this kind of crime.”
I’m not sure what kind of “more education” causes someone to get a funny look and say, “Woah! I see, now. Raape is wrong. Who knew?”
Maybe another day of Saturday training?
An voluntary on-line self-study interactive multimedia presentation with 4-color personalized printable completion certificate?
Wait… I got it…
…a “Winners Don’t Raape” coloring book!
I can see it now. Diick and Jae-in… and their little dog Wet Spot.
“Well, gosh, Colonel, I sure learned my lesson. From now on, no matter how drunk I get, the 84 year-old trash-digging lady squatting down and mashing garlic next to the restroom door in the alley no longer temps me… because I know… Winners Don’t Raape!”
“That’s right, Diick. And, you know what else? Winners don’t even think about anything but readiness with a daily goal to complete the mission and bring us all in for the Big Win. And that includes avoiding alcohol. You know, I think you might just be a general someday.”
“Aw, shucks, Colonel.”
“Arf!”
1:53 pm on October 3rd, 2011 39
“more education to stupid soldier will be required to prevent this kind of crime.”
I’m not sure what kind of “more education” causes someone to get a funny look and say, “Woah! I see, now. Raape is wrong. Who knew?”
No Sh/T, I had a BDE CSM try to tear into me when I was a 1SG because I tried to crucify a repeat offender for shoplifting at the PX; he asked me if I specfically told HIM not to shoplift during the Friday company safety brief…seriously…I said “No, I did not specifically state that the Soldiers shouldn’t shoplift, I also did not tell them murder was bad, I won’t go down the list of punitive articles in the UCMJ every safety briefing”…He went ballastic said I was only gunning for the kid because he was black (CSM was black too) I said “CSM, that’s offensive and racist” he says ” Nope, I’m not racist, my wife is white”…he then proceeded to tell me he’d get me relieved soon as he could…didn’t happen because the BN CSM and CDR knew the deal. I found out he went to the BDE CDR and pleaded for the kid not to be punished and it was a failure of leadership that he got into trouble. HE WAS ON VIDEO TAPE AND DENIED IT TO THE COL’S FACE…
True story. ENGR BDE Camp Howze 2000…
2:15 pm on October 3rd, 2011 40
“No, Dr. Yu… raping MORE of them.
http://www.stripes.com/news/sergeant-gets-30-years-in-sexual-assault-on-s-korean-soldier-1.2035”
Oh Lord ….. I better watch out the USA soldiers the next time I go to Songtan
….. because I´m very sexy 
3:05 pm on October 3rd, 2011 41
#40
Have ya got a purdy mouth?
The big picture: Let’s not pretend sexual assault didn’t exist in Korea were it not for drunk American GIs.
As for this specific incident, all I gotta say is, “2ID, again!?” Has anybody yet tested the beer, soju or ice up there for contaminants?
3:15 pm on October 3rd, 2011 42
38: Dang, Chickenhead! Did you have any part in those silly Public Service Announcements that run on AFKN? Damn if that didn’t sound just like one!
6:30 pm on October 3rd, 2011 43
I find it to be very sad that so many here will lump ALL GI’s into one neat little box, like JoeC and others did and call us ALL bad.
Even calling ALL drunk GI’s bad is wrong. It isn’t being drunk that causes rapes. That is an excuse used by some. Drinking doesn’t turn sweet little Johnny into a rapist.
I and many — MANY — others have spent time in Korea drinking, parting, and having a damn good time, without ever raping anyone.
Reading here would suggest that this is not possible.
Kinda like saying all African Americans are lazy. Right? Yes it is. Some are. Not all of them. Not even a large number of them. But some.
I spent nine years in Korea. Drinking and having a good time. Never raped anyone in all those nine years. WOW! Others have done the same. Many others.
Poggy can be rented easily enough, when wanted. Even FREE, if you have the money to spend on the GI Jane’s.
Rape is about power above all else, or so I’ve been told.
Most GI’s just want to unwind and have a good time. But like in any social group, there are some mean ones. They must be dealt with. If for no other reason than they ruin it for the rest of us.
I believe I’ll mix a Jim & Coke, watch the game on Monday night football and not rape anyone. Like MOST Solders do, retired or active duty.
Tipsida!!
7:52 pm on October 3rd, 2011 44
#43
Reading comprehension fail … again.
9:00 pm on October 3rd, 2011 45
I feel guilty, given the circumstances, but that was really, really funny.
3:49 am on October 4th, 2011 46
44, Perhaps you are simply unclear. As you seem to be the only one here that I can not comprehend.
Would you care to explain for little ole me?
6:14 am on October 4th, 2011 47
#46
OK. How about this? Not all drunk GIs are rapist, but most accused of rape also happen to be intoxicated. 2ID seems to be over represented for these off-post incidents within USFK.
Is that simple enough?
9:26 am on October 4th, 2011 48
Much better! Even the ESL students should understand that. Good job JoeC!
You are correct that 2ID is over represented in this area. However, even when I was there at Stanley, we didn’t see much in the rape department. Too much drink mostly resulted in lower level stupidity. Physical abuse was rare, at least in my company.
Perhaps it is MOS related, rather than alcohol related. I don’t believe there has ever been a list “by MOS”, that looked at which MOS might be more prone to violence when alcohol is added into the mix. Just a thought
8:45 am on October 7th, 2011 49
If she was a hooker, I have no comment.
But if not, I pity many Korean girls for being wowed and wrongfully impressed by foreigners, this kind of mishap should send a clear message to Korean women that they must stop fantacising about western men from watching too many Hollywood garbage movies and the internet.
Do not go to Itaewon and avoid where GIs hang out. They are only looking for one night adventure only.
The only good man for Korean girls is Korean men, not dark or white skins.
1:06 pm on October 7th, 2011 50
Says “James” the Korean College Student.
You see “James”, I have seen with my own eyes how some Korean men treat their women.
I helped one 20 something Korean woman out of the street, after her Korean Man beat the crap out of her, in the middle of the street, during daylight hours, and Not one Korean came to her aid. An American Soldier came to help her to her feet and out of the street.
Personally, I liked to meet Korean women at the amusement parks, or the subway, or USO tours. Those will even pay for the Hotel room
I really enjoyed meeting them on the bus. Saturday in Seoul is a good time to ride. But wait until High School has let out! If you don’t, you will end up riding a bus loaded with high school girls. One told me once that she loved me (sweet
) I told her I loved her back in Hangul. You should have seen her face 
at least I THINK that is what I said 
Go to one of the numerous Red light districts James, while you wait to find a girl friend. You will feel better after a good “servicing”.
5:06 pm on October 7th, 2011 51
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/10/07/world/asia/south-korea-us-rape/index.html?hpt=ias_c2
Number two……
Crap.
6:07 am on October 8th, 2011 52
1980′s 1990″s Do the math Number fifty one.