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Avatar of GI KoreaBy on November 12th, 2011 at 6:02 am

US Military To Station Marines In Australia

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With all the problems facing the US Marines as they try to reposition forces on Okinawa and Guam, they have at least found one more place to put a few Marines at that will lighten the load on the two islands:

THE expanded American military presence in Australia – to be formally announced next week by the US President, Barack Obama – will result in vastly more US ships, planes and soldiers visiting and being stationed in the nation’s north, the government says.

As the government all but confirmed yesterday’s Herald report that US Marines and materiel would be shifted to Darwin, the Greens said the move would annoy Australia’s neighbours, including China, and make the nation a bigger military target.

The Greens leader, Bob Brown, said he would make his concerns known to Mr Obama next week in the unlikely event he was granted a meeting with him. Otherwise Senator Brown planned to ring the US embassy to complain.

The Foreign Minister, Kevin Rudd, attacked the Greens, whose platform opposes foreign military bases.

”The Green party does not direct Australia’s national security policy, the Green party does not direct Australia’s foreign policy,” Mr Rudd said from Hawaii, where he is attending the Asia-Pacific Economic Co-operation summit.

Mr Rudd played down concerns expressed by some defence analysts, such as Professor Hugh White, that the increased US presence might antagonise China. Mr Rudd said Australia had always been transparent about the importance of its alliance with the US.

With Australia’s vast coastline and small population, ”it has always made national security sense for Australia to have a strong strategic alliance with the United States”. This had long had the overwhelming support of the Australian people, he said.   [Sydney Morning Herald]

Considering the size of the existing military installation Robertson Barracks that they are putting Marines at in Darwin it could probably hold just a few hundred Marines, so it won’t be a very large troop presence.  However, this opens the door to future expansion of the base once the politics in Australia line up to support such a move.  This is a very good idea to reduce some of the pressure over the US Marine presence on Okinawa while at the same time strategically dispersing US forces across the Pacific.  On a side note, China would look ridiculous complaining about US Marines stationed thousands of miles away in an entirely different hemisphere, especially if it reduces the number of US forces in Okinawa that is sitting literally right off their shores unlike Australia.

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  • Homeboy
    6:21 am on November 12th, 2011 1

    :roll: What are white folks doing in Australia… The land down under was Aborigine’s taken by the British marauders… Give the land back to the owners and go back to the white man’s land Aussies !! You don’t belong in Asia…. I’m sure your alliance with English speaking nation is important… Asians shall take back the land you stole from us all…

  • Conway Eastwood
    9:01 am on November 12th, 2011 2

    This isn’t new news. They’ve already been there for years now. Shoalwater, anybody?

  • Avatar of GI KoreaGI Korea
    11:56 am on November 12th, 2011 3

    @1 – Aborigines are Asians? :?:

    @2 – This is news because it is the permanent stationing of a US Marine unit in Australia. In the past we have rotated units to Australia for training exercises such Talisman Sabre at Shoalwater Bay which is what you are referring to. The permanent stationing of US troops will drive the Australian left nuts but they can’t say much since the left leaning Labor Party is currently running the government. If John Howard had done this a few years ago the Aussie left would have gone bonkers.

  • Orbit
    1:20 pm on November 12th, 2011 4

    I bet even austrailians will hate us military there.

  • JoeC
    2:26 pm on November 12th, 2011 5

    “Asians shall take back the land you stole from us all…”

    How do you categorize Asian; as a race, an ethnicity, a nationality? My recollection of geography tells me that Asia and Australia were completely separate continents. Racially, should the Slavic Asians be kicked out of Asia? Where would they go?

    Prior to the modern European migration to Australia, there is little evidence of north Asian presence or interest in the place.

    It is believed that the original aborigines followed a migration path along the southern Asian continent through the area that is currently Indonesia and made it to Australia at a time when sea levels were lower and the land masses were separated by mess water.

    But, before you say, “See! They really are Asian.” Consider this recent finding:

    The results, published in the journal Science, re-interpret the prehistory of our species.

    By sequencing the genome, the researchers demonstrate that Aboriginal Australians descend directly from an early human expansion into Asia that took place some 70,000 years ago, at least 24,000 years before the population movements that gave rise to present-day Europeans and Asians. The results imply that modern day Aboriginal Australians are in fact the direct descendents of the first people who arrived in Australia as early as 50,000 years ago.

    The study derived from a lock of hair donated to a British anthropologist by an Aboriginal man from the Goldfields region of Western Australia in the early 20th century. One hundred years later, researchers have isolated DNA from this same hair, using it to explore the genetics of the first Australians and to provide insights into how humans first dispersed across the globe.

    So, the original Australians predate Asian and European distinctions. They arrived at a time when human genetic differences were much more profound than what we look at today as ethnic and racial. During their migration they probably encountered human variants that no longer exist. Homo Floresiensis, the Indonesian “hobbit”, was last seen about 12 to 13 thousand years ago. Neanderthal only went away about 30,000 years ago.

    And for those who believe the world was created during a 7 day stretch 7,000 years ago … never mind.

  • JoeC
    2:29 pm on November 12th, 2011 6

    Correction: “land masses were separated by less water.”

  • JoeC
    3:08 pm on November 12th, 2011 7

    #4

    “I bet even austrailians will hate us military there.”

    Probably. But we did do tend to get along more often than not.

    I’ve worked and played with Australians on a number of occasions during my military career. Their and our air forces worked next to each off the same flight lines at Clark Air Base, Philippines during Cope Thunder and Uda Pao Air Base, Thailand during Cobra Gold exercises. I was also TDY to Darwin for several weeks.

    We have similar partying habits and if you visit any of the villes where we meet you will see the camaraderie still exists.

    Just my opinion though. They are generally more experienced and robust drinkers than most Americans and might come out the better in rounds of barroom roughhousing with our young Marines.

  • ChickenHead
    3:37 pm on November 12th, 2011 8

    “Asians shall take back the land you stole from us all”

    Yeah?

    Well!

    The White Man will take back the land ASIANS stole!

    Both Tokyo AND Hong Kong…

    …uh…

    …Disney… land.

    Never mind.

  • Leon LaPorte
    3:55 pm on November 12th, 2011 9

    Impossible. Wait until the Evangelical and feminist leadership (strange bedfellows, eh?) discover prostitution is legal in Australia.*
    Human trafficking!
    White women!
    Following current DoD policy, our Marines will have to be restricted to their installation at all times.

    *brothels are illegal

  • Vince
    4:34 pm on November 12th, 2011 10

    If you have ever been to Oz as a serviceman, you’ll have no doubt that the Aussies will have no problems with us being there.

  • Leon LaPorte
    4:35 pm on November 12th, 2011 11

    10. Especially the women folk. :lol:

  • JoeC
    5:01 pm on November 12th, 2011 12

    Part of our safety briefing at Darwin was to stay away from the beach. The saltwater crocodiles are ambush hunters. They would sneak up behind you on the beach and chase you towards the water. In a sprint on sand, they are much faster than you.

    I suspect that, initially, a few intoxicated Marines will try their luck until a few are taken.

    The Salties are protected and numerous up there. The base officer’s club has a patio that next to a cliff next that overlooks the water. At night you can look down and see dozens of glowing red eyes.

  • Leon LaPorte
    7:26 pm on November 12th, 2011 13

    This situation reminds me of a song. Here we go, everyone together!

    Traveling in a fried-out combie
    On a hippie trail, head full of zombie
    I met a strange lady, she made me nervous
    She took me in and gave me breakfast
    And she said,

    “Do you come from a land down under?
    Where women glow and men plunder?
    Can’t you hear, can’t you hear the thunder?
    You better run, you better take cover.”

    Buying bread from a man in Brussels
    He was six foot four and full of muscles
    I said, “Do you speak-a my language?”
    He just smiled and gave me a vegemite sandwich
    And he said,

    “I come from a land down under
    Where beer does flow and men chunder
    Can’t you hear, can’t you hear the thunder?
    You better run, you better take cover.”

    Lying in a den in Bombay
    With a slack jaw, and not much to say
    I said to the man, “Are you trying to tempt me
    Because I come from the land of plenty?”
    And he said,

    “Oh! Do you come from a land down under? (oh yeah yeah)
    Where women glow and men plunder?
    Can’t you hear, can’t you hear the thunder?
    You better run, you better take cover.”

  • Homeboy
    9:03 pm on November 12th, 2011 14

    :cool: Ooh… it’s “legal” in Australia? Hmm… :roll:

  • Homeboy
    9:03 pm on November 12th, 2011 15

    :shock: Is it okay for an old, foreign man to join the U.S. military?

  • Homeboy
    9:10 pm on November 12th, 2011 16

    #10, yes… I bet…. English speakers and white folks….? gettin’ together… ain’t it better than with Asiennes… :smile:

    Asians !! Unite against the White Ghost tyranny that’s sweeping our foreground…

    The White ghosts are sticking together… finally…. against us !!!

    Let’s destroy the very base from which those ghosts will descend upon us to vent destruction on our homes and families !!!

    :cool:

  • Maj.America
    9:15 pm on November 12th, 2011 17

    Sounds great! I would love to be station in Australia at some point. I am huge fan of strengthening military ties between English speaking westernized countries.

  • Homeboy
    9:44 pm on November 12th, 2011 18

    #14, :twisted: Asians !!! Unite against White Mans’ aggression toward you !!!!

    That is what they want !!! Domination of Asia through military Might !!!

    DRIVE Americans out of Asia & Pacific !!!

    Let’s take over Australia !!! Drive White Men from Asia, Australia, and New Zealand…

    Give the land back to their original owners !!!!!!!! :evil:

  • Homeboy
    9:56 pm on November 12th, 2011 19

    Yes !!! Maj. America is exactly reflective of what 100% White Men think !!

    They want a domination of Asia through cooperation among English speaking Western (White) Nations !!!

    Do not forget… their Colonial past linkage !!!

    They are of same people!!!

    Unite for the pre-emptive strike against their heart of Aggression …..

    STRIKE AUSTRALIA AND DESTROY THE BASTION OF AGGRESSION !!!!

  • Homeboy
    9:59 pm on November 12th, 2011 20

    OBAMA is making a wrong move… Obama has seriously disappointed me. It will be a big blow against him.

    There is a deep distrust of Australians. They are just a transient in our world.

    That decision to have a White Man’s Army stationed permanently against Asians will back fire in the long run.

    Stupid Aussies…. :|

  • Glans
    11:40 pm on November 12th, 2011 21

    Aussies would be pretty stupid if they gave China veto power over their national security policy.

  • ChickenHead
    11:47 pm on November 12th, 2011 22

    Do you have a base down under?
    Where Indonesian oil can be plundered.
    If Chinese come they will hear the thunder.
    Those shipping lanes, they’d better take cover.”

  • Homeboy
    12:07 am on November 13th, 2011 23

    Now we’re talking…..

    :twisted: Is America really a friend of Asia??

    Well…. Well….

    Whites stick together, so Asians should stick together too…

    Aussies got massive deposits of natural minerals that we could use and they sit right besides Indonesian oil fields..

    That mass of land those outsiders sit on is just too valuable for Asians to let go of… to Americans…

  • Homeboy
    12:14 am on November 13th, 2011 24

    #21, I’m sure white folks in Australia are pretty scared about an Asian Super Power… But what about a NATO like power group arising in Asia against outsiders like Australia or the U.S.?

    A Defense Treaty Organization that is led by China, Korea, and Japan… against White Men… :roll:

    Wouldn’t that make White people twitch and grab a gun….?

    NATO throws its weight around every where… Why shouldn’t Asians? :grin:

  • Homeboy
    12:16 am on November 13th, 2011 25

    DESTROY ANZ-AMERICAN ALLIANCE !!!!!

  • Homeboy
    12:38 am on November 13th, 2011 26

    Down to APEC

  • Leon LaPorte
    4:05 am on November 13th, 2011 27

    16. Yeah but do the Chinese chunder?

  • Homeboy
    5:22 am on November 13th, 2011 28

    Keep the base in Oki… Right under their butt

  • nomad
    6:03 am on November 13th, 2011 29

    “Their and our air forces worked next to each off the same flight lines at Clark Air Base, Philippines during Cope Thunder”

    Their safety regulations were a bit more relaxed than ours too….had one Aussie tell me that they didn’t see how we ever got our F-4s and A-10s back in the air with all the books and regs we had to follow for every little thing.
    I also learned the hard (but fun) way, that it was no use to try to keep up with the Aussies on a night out. Hard working, and even harder drinking group of guys that drank us under the table every time we partied with them. Good times :smile:

  • guitard
    6:53 am on November 13th, 2011 30

    Orbit wrote:

    I bet even austrailians will hate us military there.

    Not as much as they hate obnoxious Korean tourists.

  • Homeboy
    7:34 am on November 13th, 2011 31

    :roll: I can not stand obnoxious tourists of ALL kinds….

  • Avatar of GI KoreaGI Korea
    8:20 am on November 13th, 2011 32

    @9 – Yes very good point about the legal prostitution in Australia. It will be interesting to see how DOD addresses that. I bet they ignore it since it is legal. In Korea prostitution in technically illegal and DOD is able to use that to validate their current anti-prostitution stance.

  • Avatar of GI KoreaGI Korea
    8:31 am on November 13th, 2011 33

    @5 – Great link, I have always found how the Aborigines migrated to Australia quite interesting. All the recent research shows they are not Asians but in fact of African origin:

    Australia along with the rest of the world was first settled by a single group of settlers who left Africa more than 55,000 years, new DNA research suggests.

    Once there, they apparently evolved in relative isolation, developing genetic characteristics and technology found nowhere else until the arrival of the first European settlers.

    The uniqueness of Australia’s ancient Aborigines and archaeological finds on the continent have previously threatened to undermine the “out of Africa” hypothesis of human origins favoured by most experts.

    But the latest research by geneticists at the University of Cambridge reinforces the theory that all modern human beings belonging to the species Homo sapiens are descended from a small number of Africans who left their home between 55,000 and 60,000 years ago.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/aborigines-out-of-africa-scientists/story-e6frg6so-1111113493013

    The migration of the Aboriginal ancestors to Australia has to be considered one of the greatest feats of human exploration:

    Professor Eske Willerslev from the University of Copenhagen, who headed the study, explains: “Aboriginal Australians descend from the first human explorers. While the ancestors of Europeans and Asians were sitting somewhere in Africa or the Middle East, yet to explore their world further, the ancestors of Aboriginal Australians spread rapidly; the first modern humans traversing unknown territory in Asia and finally crossing the sea into Australia. It was a truly amazing journey that must have demanded exceptional survival skills and bravery.”

  • Avatar of GI KoreaGI Korea
    8:33 am on November 13th, 2011 34

    @18 – Homeboy sounds just like the Imperial Japanese he so much despises that ventured out to “free” Asia from white colonial powers.

  • ChickenHead
    8:38 am on November 13th, 2011 35

    The barracks lawyer in me says with prostitution specifically being illegal in the latest revision of the UCMJ, the box-checking “leaders” and their zero tolerance policies will not allow it to be ignored…

    …especially the married ones who hear about it at church.

  • kangaji
    8:40 am on November 13th, 2011 36

    Seems like the far right and far left in Korea both love their Post 친일파 민족주의

  • kangaji
    8:59 am on November 13th, 2011 37

    #35: Yep, amendement to UCMJ from back in 2005. It says “sexual intercourse… for money… not spouse” Also, Article 125 unnatural copulation = mouth OR anus + sexual organ. So, non-BJ soapland = OK?

  • Homeboy
    9:04 am on November 13th, 2011 38

    대한 민국 만세!!!!

  • Homeboy
    9:10 am on November 13th, 2011 39

    GI Korea, yes I despise Jap Imperial-militarists…. Don’t drive me
    into their corner…. Also, Chinese militarists….

  • JoeC
    12:46 pm on November 13th, 2011 40

    #29

    Their Mirage aircraft had the disturbing habit of producing an explosive backfire and coughing out a fireball from the exhaust on engine start. Had us Americans ducking for cover the first few days. The Aussies didn’t even flinch.

    We did envy their utility uniforms that allowed them to wear shorts in the tropical sun.

  • JoeC
    1:05 pm on November 13th, 2011 41

    #17 and #29

    After several rounds of drinking with Australians it’s almost like they were speaking a foreign language and you won’t understand 80% of what they are saying. You end up just nodding a lot.

    This might help in understanding their war stories.

  • Orbit
    1:29 pm on November 13th, 2011 42

    lol this guitard obvioulsy have chip on his shoulders. He definately have something against korea and koreans. Obnoxious korean tourists? wtf? lol

  • Jinro Dukkohbi
    4:17 pm on November 13th, 2011 43

    #41 – that is a great link for Aussie Army lingo. I wonder – the term “Battle Tranny”…it could have a new ‘crossover’ meaning in the US military now that DADT has been repealed… :lol:

  • kangaji
    4:25 pm on November 13th, 2011 44

    Thailand still waiting for its battle trannies to have permission to serve.

    I was reading the AR for medical readiness a couple of months ago and alterations to genitals and hemaphrodite status – even fixed at birth – medically disqualifies those with physical sex changes.

  • Homeboy
    4:36 pm on November 13th, 2011 45

    Battle Trannies ? :lol: That is a good one… Untranslatable into Korean…

  • Homeboy
    5:31 pm on November 13th, 2011 46

    Orbit, Koreans can be really nasty obnoxious not only here in Korea but also overseas… I can’t stand some of those idiots who I can spot from miles away…literally.

    In my lifetime, I’ve had more goddarned bad experiences with my fellow countrymen than foreigners of all types.

    You might want to step back… relax and quit bad mouthing foreigners here.

    You don’t seem Korean. Don’t act like one.

  • Homeboy
    5:36 pm on November 13th, 2011 47

    For your solace, I’ve had bad experiences with Americans as well, not only in the private sector but in the military as well.

    I got into a run in with this American Sergeant First Class at the MP in the Yongsan Garrison who were dissing Korea with his subordinate right in front of me… I got pissed off…He nearly got me in the stockade but I had more powerful connections…

    So what, there are bad apples everywhere… Ya gotta watch out for the rotten ones and make sure those are discarded… if not just ignore them…

  • Glans
    8:45 pm on November 13th, 2011 48

    GI Korea 33, everybody is of African origin.

  • ChickenHead
    11:29 pm on November 13th, 2011 49

    “everybody is of African origin”

    Does that explain why I want to get some shields and spears?

    …preferably Brooke Shields and Britney Spears…

    …circa 1985 Shields and 1999 Spears, of course.

  • Nathan of Perth
    11:47 pm on November 13th, 2011 50

    I have never consumed illicit pharmacological products in my life but goddamn I need to get some of what Homeboy’s been having, he is off his face.

  • Homeboy
    12:05 am on November 14th, 2011 51

    Well now… here’s the descendent of criminals sent over by the Brits to rid itself of the petulant critters who made havoc of its streets… good riddance…

    Nathan, read my posts…. you dimwit

    By the way… what I meant about you people down under were all true… You are all transient in this part of the world and us Asians will kick you out sooner or later…Give the land back to the Aborigines whom you’ve treated worse than dogs.

  • Nathan of Perth
    12:18 am on November 14th, 2011 52

    And when you consider the class of people still running around England, it just goes to show how bad the ones they shipped here must have been. Besides, if even Suharto thought we’d be impossible to uproot, your dreams of Australian transience are likely to remain just dreams.

    Besides, there’s not nearly enough Aboriginal people left to run the joint; there’d be a sixty-way rush to take over from them by all the major Asian nations, European nations and Uncle Sam, which would spark a thermonuclear World War III and wipe out every developed country on earth.

    Given the alternatives, we’re not so bad :)

  • Homeboy
    2:19 am on November 14th, 2011 53

    :cool: Nathan… You are a cool dude…

    You didn’t take my bait… wait ’till next time…

    G’day mate…

  • kangaji
    3:30 am on November 14th, 2011 54

    #46: At least the Korean govt made a Public Service Announcement to not be a 똥가방 overseas.

  • Turbo
    9:36 am on November 14th, 2011 55

    Asians uniting? Yeah right?

    My old man in English, my mother Scottish, I was never shit on back home for being mixed race.

    What will a person with a Chinese father and a Korean mother living in China or Korea experience?

    Yeah, Asians will unite, sure…

  • Turbo
    9:47 am on November 14th, 2011 56

    is English

  • guitard
    10:24 am on November 14th, 2011 57

    Turbo wrote:

    is English

    Reminds me of something Phil Lynott of the Irish band Thin Lizzy once said while addressing the crowd.

    Phil: Are there any girls out there with any Irish in them?

    crowd: roars and cheers.

    Phil: Are they any girls out there who’d like a little more Irish in them?

  • JoeC
    7:35 pm on November 27th, 2011 58

    Seldom does the military get this kind of welcoming promotion from the mayor of a city:

    “Darwin is world renowned as a party town,” Sawyer said. “It has a high percentage of clubs, bars and nightclubs… so the Marines should fit in nicely.”

    Aneeta Clark, who manages the HP Underground nightclub in Darwin, said she’s used to seeing sailors from visiting U.S. ships in her bar.

    “They flood the place when they are in town,” she said, adding that senior personnel keep the troops in line when they are out on the town.

    Clark said she hopes the Marines will be good for local businesses.

    :) :)

    Don’t screw it up Marines.

 

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