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Avatar of GI KoreaBy on February 7th, 2012 at 7:17 am

Plan Calls for Okinawa Based Marines To Rotate Through Korea

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Now the delays and changes to the US plan to relocate Marines from the island now involves Korea:

Some U.S. marines stationed in Okinawa will likely move to South Korea under a plan whereby the U.S. redeploys some 3,300 of the 18,000 marines on the Japanese island to other countries on a rotating basis.

A South Korean government source said Monday the U.S. “has long wanted to redeploy some of its marines from Okinawa to Korea. Once Washington and Tokyo reach agreement on the status of the U.S. marines in Okinawa, the U.S. will consider redeploying some of them here.”

Originally, the U.S. had planned to move 8,000 marines and their families from Okinawa to Guam, but under a recent tentative agreement with Tokyo it will send 4,700 to Guam and rotate 3,300 to other overseas bases, including Australia and the Philippines.

The U.S. has been trying to sound South Korea out since 2006 about sending some marines here.

The Lee Myung-bak administration is apparently worried about opposition from China and North Korea as well as from some South Koreans, even though it believes that the U.S. marines could play a positive role in an emergency.  [Chosun Ilbo]

I wonder how long a rotation will be?  One year like most other servicemembers in Korea perhaps?  If so that is not exactly what I would call a rotation.  Also I wonder if Camp Mujuk will be the place where they are housed?  If so it is good that the camp has been upgraded over the years.

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  • Nathan
    10:20 am on February 7th, 2012 1

    If you call what they’ve done to Mujuk an upgrade that’s laughable. Sure it has some new buildings, almost 3 barracks, but they tore down the base club and haven’t replaced it. It’s a great little hideaway for the Marines who are there outside the rest of the FMF, but it can’t support many more Marines permanently.

    I thought the Armistice banned permanent Marines in Korea. Just as a point of interest, MARFORK is beyond mucked up in every way imaginable.

  • John in CA
    11:59 am on February 7th, 2012 2

    #1
    Armistice banned USMC in korea? Never ever heard that. Your source?

  • Vince
    2:01 pm on February 7th, 2012 3

    1st Marine Div was in Korea until 1955. Rotated out and replaced with the 24th ID. Initial force at JSA was a provisional unit from 1st MarDiv.

    All after the armistice.

  • JoeC
    2:17 pm on February 7th, 2012 4

    According to the military assignment regulations I recall, if it’s less than a year it’s not a Permanent Change of Station (PCS) but a Temporary Duty Assignment.

    The Marines have had a unit deployment program in the Pacific for over 40 years now. It not like an individual PCS but more of a unit wide forward deployment for 6 months. So, even if there were some Armistice restriction against permanent assignment of Marines in Korea these deployment would not violate that.

    There are some standing Air Force detachments in Korea whose troops are on short deployment rotations.

    Contrast that with the Army plan several years back to do year long PCSs by replacing an entire unit at the same time. They were doing it with the ADA brigade at Suwon a while back. Are they still doing that? How did that work out?

  • Ole Tanker
    2:51 pm on February 7th, 2012 5

    The Marines can be the Forward Deployed speed bump/artillery magnet at Camp Casey. :cool:

    1st BDE HBCT can can protect the rear supply lines at Camp Humphries, evryone knows logistics are the key to successful operations. :cool: :cool: :cool:

    Even at Casey the Jarheads can practice tagalog just like in the PI. :cool:

  • Leon LaPorte
    3:08 pm on February 7th, 2012 6

    They already come up here to Rod Range once a year for quite a while. I also supported them at “Yongin”. They had a presence on a couple ROK Marine compounds.

    5. I would remind you, 1HBCT’s primary mission (and as the only maneuver unit in Korea) is NEO. Has been for a few years. From Casey all the way to Seoul. Therefore to say they are going to fight tonight is ridiculous. They must be ready to NEO tonight. You can’t really do both. Silly, isn’t it?

  • Chris In Dallas
    3:37 pm on February 7th, 2012 7

    #2: I’ve heard this “No Marines in Korea” stuff before; and always from Marines. I call BS. I just scanned the armistice and didn’t find squat:

    http://news.findlaw.com/wp/docs/korea/kwarmagr072753.html

  • Leon LaPorte
    3:44 pm on February 7th, 2012 8

    7. Besides, as has been pointed out, they have been here and ARE here.

  • Ole Tanker
    3:46 pm on February 7th, 2012 9

    Good point LEON!!!

    The Marines won’t bring the baggage the Army does. At least for the 1st few months until they drink the “Drinky Gurl” koolaid. :cool:

    NEO at Humphries will feel..well…normal as opposed to Casey, where it is ironic moronity. :cool:

    I mean, “Sarge it don’t feel right, I should be on mah tank gettin ready to moves out. Nstead, I’m in the gym scanning barcodes and updatin my power of attorney. :shock:

  • Nathan
    4:47 pm on February 7th, 2012 10

    The armistice thing is some grand old rumor of the USMC then. I’m not sure when I first heard it, but it’s certainly believed by most. I read the armistice years ago too and didn’t see anything about it; however, saying there are already Marines IN Korea is true but they really aren’t stationed there in a traditional sense. Only recently was the Mujuk tour normalized where it was an actual duty station, before that it was filled with FAP/TAD slots from III MEF in Okinawa. The few MARFORK command elements on Yongson for example are extremely limited. You couldn’t fill a C130 with the total number of Marines in Korea “permanently”.

    Marines of course use Rod range like crazy, are at Kunsan, Osan, Daegu, Mokpo and Mujuk multiple times every single year for exercises, but that’s nothing like them actually being stationed there.

  • Leon LaPorte
    5:02 pm on February 7th, 2012 11

    Nevertheless, they are here, in whatever capacity, therefore negating the armistice rumor. Move along, nothing to see here.

  • Jeff
    9:59 am on February 8th, 2012 12

    Leon, ref: #6 you work at Rod Range?

  • Leon LaPorte
    12:40 pm on February 8th, 2012 13

    12. All over. I roam…

  • Jeff
    12:45 pm on February 8th, 2012 14

    Just curious, I was in the running for a job with CSC there at Rod Range. It didn’t pan out.

 

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