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Avatar of GI KoreaBy on February 16th, 2012 at 3:27 am

Sung Kim Says No Cuts Coming To USFK

US Ambassador to South Korea, Sung Kim says that no troop cuts are coming to USFK:

The new U.S. ambassador to South Korea said this week that the only impending change to the U.S. military presence on the peninsula will be the relocation of servicemembers to a smaller number of bases — not a decrease in troop levels.

During a forum Tuesday, Ambassador Sung Kim addressed longstanding concerns that the U.S. might station fewer troops in South Korea as part of the military’s overall cost-cutting efforts. Many South Koreans believe such a move would make their country more vulnerable to a North Korean attack, particularly following the death of dictator Kim Jong Il in December and uncertainty about his enigmatic son and successor, Kim Jong Un.

If you read the rest of the article Ambassador Kim says the USFK relocation will be complete around 2016.  Take notice of the “around 2016″ remark because this is a hedge against whether or not the move will actually happen then.  Just think 2009 was supposed to be the year the expansion project was originally going to be completed.  For those that have not been following this issue, the reasons for the delays of the relocation are various, but it first started with the political fight within Korea to make the Camp Humphreys relocation project even possible.  The Korean government has never wanted the USFK relocation to happen for a variety of reasons and the only reason it has gotten as far as it has was because of former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld’s threat to withdraw USFK which was made quite clear with the redeployment of 2nd Brigade of the 2nd Infantry Division from the Korean peninsula along with a host of other troop cuts.  A few days after Rumsfeld resigned from office the Korean government immediately reneged on the transformation deal and announced the first delay of the Camp Humphreys relocation to 2012.

Following that drama then the next major fight happened when the anti-US groups began their siege of the land outside of Camp Humphreys slated to be annexed for the expansion.  The stand off went on for months until finally one last epic Braveheart style battle took place where after many injuries the Korean police were able to expel the anti-US groups.   Since then the delays have only increased, corruption has been rampant, and the Korean government launched a protracted fight over the funding of the US-ROK alliance and the move.

After it is all said and done, the completion of the expansion will happen somewhere between 2016 – 2019.  It is incredible to think that the US government can decide to invade Iraq, occupy it, and then set up a security agreement with the new government to complete US withdrawal from the country in less time then it takes to withdraw troops from Yongsan Garrison.

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  • Nomad
    4:41 am on February 16th, 2012 1

    Back when this first came up I used to tell people who believed in the original time-line that I’ll be long gone before Yongsan ever moves to Humphreys and well, here it is; 2012, I’m in the states and they’re still floundering :roll:

  • Karnak
    5:13 am on February 16th, 2012 2

    GI, your predictions are pretty good, looking at your historical posts on this subject. Movement may heat up again next year after the presidential election in December…more sunshine and anti-US.

  • tbonetylr
    6:31 am on February 16th, 2012 3

    “It is incredible…”
    Actually, it’s INEXCUSABLE. People like that should not be dealt with, get out NOW :!:
    60 years later still at it. Can’t imagine the end ever being worth it, if not tragic beyond belief.

  • tbonetylr
    7:30 am on February 16th, 2012 4

    I remember that SNL skit with the Chinese Prime Minister bending over requesting Obama to stick it in his arse.×212.png
    Well, Obama and every American Pres. since the armistice should line up bend over for any Korean to stick in theirs. You can add all U.S. Ambassadors to that list since the 1953 agreement, including Sung Kim.

  • Leon LaPorte
    8:26 am on February 16th, 2012 5

    My date in the pool of stupidity has always been closer to 2020 with Camp Casey remaining in existence well beyond.

  • YRP Indeed
    10:52 pm on March 11th, 2012 6

    Yes, the relocation is a frustrating thing. The politics went way above my level when I worked on the program. I couldn’t get any traction in two years of trying. Gave up and now I watch it from afar. Too much money wasted for no progress to speak of. Too bad.

  • Leon LaPorte
    10:59 pm on March 11th, 2012 7

    6. We don’t actually seem to be hearing the word “relocation” as much any more. It seems to have devolved to something like “Camp Humphreys expansion” or “renovation,” which are obviously quite different things.

  • Chemlightbatteries
    11:11 pm on March 11th, 2012 8

    It is a funny thing, the duality of mankind. I had a Korean girlfriend back in 02. Rockin hot girl with huge um… assets. Anyway, I recall one alcohol laden evening where she proceded to tell me how much she hated the U.S. Army and how Korea was for Koreans and, well some of you know the drill… I just found that to be such a hypocritical statement coming from a woman who I was dating intimately, not to mention who had a job working for a transportation company right on my camp. She “hated” my employer but she worked for or at least was in collusion with. (For) She claimed to hate soldiers via her rants about the Army, yet here she was “sleeping with the enemy” quite literally. She had no problem taking the paychecks from Uncle Sam, hell her payday was about on par with mine which wasn’t a fortune of course but enough for a girl with no financial responsibility save her cell phone as she lived at home with mom and pop. Duality, or hypocrasy either way. *shrugs*


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