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Apple Lawsuits Against Samsung Going No Where

It looks like that Apple and Samsung are going to have battle each other in the marketplace instead of the courtroom at least in Germany:

It seems the patent battles between Samsung Electronics and Apple will not be decided by law but by the world markets after courts in several countries refused to give either side much of an advantage.

The Mannheim regional court in Germany last Friday dismissed a claim by Apple that the Samsung Galaxy Tab tablet PC infringed on its patent. It was the first decision in Germany in a total of six patent lawsuits Apple had filed against Samsung there since last year.

Currently, the two companies are engaged in about 30 patent lawsuits in nine countries including Germany, Australia, the U.S., Japan, and Korea.

In the Mannheim court, Apple claimed that Samsung violated its patent on a “slide-to-unlock” feature on smartphones. The same court last month ruled in favor of Apple in a similar patent suit against Motorola but it said Samsung’s technology is sufficiently different.

But the court the same day also ruled in favor of Apple in a different patent suit brought by Samsung. Samsung had claimed that Apple infringed patented technology reducing errors that occur in the process of transmitting data online.

A Samsung executive said, “We’re going to appeal to a higher court to prove Apple’s infringement of our patented technology.” The Mannheim court also rejected two suits Samsung filed against Apple over communication technology patents last year.   [Chosun Ilbo]

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  • Denny
    5:17 pm on March 5th, 2012 1

    Expected. Apple copycats numerous other companies, now is offended when they are copied.

  • Asawa
    5:39 pm on March 5th, 2012 2

    The Chosun Ilbo is certainly not to be trusted as a barometer of litigation strategies. As is to be expected, the story leads with the one small potatoes Samsung win (slide-to-lock) and NOT on the far more important Apple win against Samsung’s “patented technolgy” claim. Those Samsung losses (to be appealed to a higher court) are far more deadly for Samsung as they go to the use of patented technology used as international standards under FRAND agreements. I’m no Apple lover, but objectively, Samsung is barking at the moon by claiming that technology licensed under FRAND is proprietary. Regardless of how this is settled, I would take with a grain of salt anything the Chosun Ilbo tries to peddle.

  • Tbonetylr
    7:15 pm on March 5th, 2012 3

    YET :!: After one victory or loss depending on who’s talking(Chosun in this instance), it’s as if it’s all over. There are 5 more in Germany alone Chosun so they’re going somewhere, duh!

  • Son of Anarchy
    8:25 pm on March 5th, 2012 4

    Ok here is a question for you……Why is that when Apple released the iPhone 3 for worldwide sells Korea did not let Apple sell on the peninsula??? Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure this one out….It was to let companies like Samsung back engineer the phone so that they could release their smart phone version of the iPhone. If they had not the Koreans, like they always do, would have jumped on the worldwide apple bandwagon (cause they have to follow someone else’s lead before doing something on their own) and that would have devastated Samsung and they would still be at least four to five years behind Apple. Freakin International Thieves!!!

  • Tom
    8:54 pm on March 5th, 2012 5

    Son of Anarchy, don’t give me that bs. Apple could have sold their iPhone if they had conform to the Korean market and adopt the wimax, like all the other Korean phones did. It’s just that Apple didn’t feel like like adopting to the customer’s market, and demanded the entire Korean industry to change for Apple. Talk about arrogance. But anyway, Korea dropped the wimax requirement for Apple because of all the stink caused by the US government threatening Korea with war and sanctions.

    Talking about copycat, maybe Apple should stop using Korean oled screens and other parts that goes into that garbage then? Why is Apple continuing to buy from the “thieves”?

    Apple’s days of dominance is numbered anyway. Read this article from Forbes. Samsung is working on a phone-tablet breakthrough which will be a bendable large OLED screen phone which can be folded and put into pockets. It’s going to come out very soon, and Apple will be completely outdated since they have no hardware technology.

  • Tbonetylr
    12:21 am on March 6th, 2012 6

    Do you have a link to that threat of war? Predictions weren’t rosey for the iPhone according to the Korean media, but look what happened. It’s certainly not possible that a Korean carrier such as KT and MANY customers wanted the iPhone huh? Korea was a buzz kill for foreign phone makers because of trade barriers…

    “Hopes were raised when Korea retired its homemade standard specifications for data-enabled mobile phones, dubbed WIPI (wireless Internet platform for interoperability), in April, eliminating what has been an effective trade barrier for foreign phone makers.”

    “Will Apple’s iPhone be Successful in Korea?”
    “For South Korean tech geeks, the statute of limitations has clearly passed on being outraged over the iPhone’s delayed debut in a country that claims to be the wireless capital of the world.”

    Mixed Predictions:
    “Operators here charge about 2 to 3.5 won per kilobyte in data transmission, while also charging separately for content fees. So it takes about 5,000 won (about $4) to download a 3-megabyte pop song, 20,000 won for downloading three ring tones and about 40,000 won for an hour of news searching.

    “The reason I want an iPhone is simple ― I am tired of paying the premium for the same old stuff again and again on my handset that only accesses the mobile Internet through Nate,” said Park Sung-ha, a 32-year-old Seoul office worker who carries an iPod Touch along with a Samsung mobile phone.

    “These telecommunications companies always talk about globalization and marketing their products and services elsewhere, but when the discussion becomes about providing global-standard services to local customers, they play dumb.”

    Click on the link and read at the bottom part of the article “How Open Are Carriers Willing to Be?”

  • Leon LaPorte
    12:31 am on March 6th, 2012 7

    Park Sung-ha is obviously a traitor.

    I remember well the “Wimax November”. The US had 4 carrier groups off Busan and had mined all Korea’s deep water harbors. Only when Jimmy Carter and Sean Penn, along with the Ling sisters, convinced Steve Jobs to pull back did the crisis end. It was a scary time to be alive. I remember all the American English teachers in the streets burning Wimax phones and setting themselves on fire. The US Air Force was dropping leaflets.

  • Son of Anarchy
    1:29 am on March 6th, 2012 8

    Ok Tom…then you tell me why the iPhone was first dropped in 2007 but no Korean phone companies would give service to you if you brought the phone to them??? Why is it that the first Samsung smart phone that came out on June 1, 2010 looked like the Motorola Android that came out in April 2010? And then the next Samsung smart phone to come out looked like the iphone 3??? Since you are all knowing maybe you can answer those questions. Also maybe you can tell me that why up until 2010 if you were not a Korean Citizen or married to one that you could not have a plan phone on the economy??? The only way you could get a plan phone was to go to the USO and get the shaft from them.

    Oh Ya, I like the “artist rendition” of that bent screen phone and until they come out with it it will stay an “artist’s rendition”.

    And one more thing TOM why is that when you try to watch TV shows that stream online for free anywhere else in the world it always says “Sorry this content is not available in your area”???

    Its because the whole DAMN GLOBE knows that Koreans take other peoples ideas and pass them off as their own…….TOP GEAR Korea was suppose to show case Korean cars…..I HAVE YET TO SEE A HYUNDAI GENESIS ON ONE OF THEIR STUPID EPISODES!!!! Now they have ripped off Saturday Night Live….THERE IS NOTHING FUNNY ABOUT KOREAN SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE!!!!!
    I could go on for days about crap that these people have stolen from EVERYONE that calls earth home…lets not forget about the cloned dog. Later TOM

  • nue
    2:51 am on March 6th, 2012 9


    Most streaming shows aren’t available outside of the US. Can’t watch any streaming video on my Kindle in Japan either.

    They’ve successfully ripped off SNL – There is nothing funny about American SNL either.

    Many cultures have stolen from Korea too. Look at the Italians and Pizza. I *hate* Marcopolo!!

  • Tom
    5:09 am on March 6th, 2012 10

    Get off your high horse Son of Anarchy! I told you, iPhone could have sold their phones if they simply changed their phone to customize to the Korean market by including wimax, in which the rule applied to all phone makers. Instead of screaming “protectionism” and “racism”! Get out of here with your tiresome flimsy racism accusations.

    As for Motorola android phone.. excuse me why would Samsung copy a bankrupt phone maker that nobody cares about? That’s a good one. :lol: Really!

    As for Top Gear and Saturday Night Live, “Stolen”?? I don’t think so.

    Well yes, they are shows that were bought and paid for, shown in other countries as well. Did Spain steal the shows? Did Japan steal the shows? Did Germany steal the shows? Oh no, but Korea did steal the shows! oh those thieving Koreans!

    Stop blaming Korea for every little thing that don’t go your ways, people. The streaming show blocking accusation is a perfect example of what I’m talking about.

  • tbonetylr
    6:31 am on March 6th, 2012 11

    What is the Wiki SNL link suppose to mean? It doesn’t say TVN pays for anything. :roll: It does show that SNLK uses SNL’s ideas in humor i.e. weekend update etc… How original huh? They’ve had 40 years to come up with the idea of using SNL’s ideas :shock:

  • Tom
    7:24 am on March 6th, 2012 12

    For god sakes, read the link, before you guys falsely accuse of theft.

    “SNL has aired 718 episodes since its debut and entered its thirty-seventh season on September 24, 2011, making it one of the longest-running network television programs in the United States as of 2012. The show format has been developed and recreated in several countries including Spain, Italy, Japan, and South Korea, each meeting with different levels of success.”

    If that’s not enough for you, it spells it for you, you illiterates here.

    It’s like you accusing someone of theft after you sold him the product. :roll:

  • Tbonetylr
    5:24 pm on March 6th, 2012 13

    Just because “TVN picked it up” doesn’t mean anything. Korean cable companies profited off of American TV programs for decades without paying a dime so what you’ve shown doesn’t mean anything. Of course I didn’t read your last link because I’m sure it doesn’t say whether TVN pays.

  • Denny
    6:47 pm on March 6th, 2012 14

    If Apple didn’t want their products to be back engineered, then they never would have outsourced all its manufacturing to China.

    What does Apple think will happen with its Chinese manufacturers? The Chinese will back engineer and develop Chinese iPads and iPods.

    In short, Apple made its bed, now has to lie in it.

    Apple is tackling Korea because Apple is too afraid to tackle the big elephant, China.

    Steve Jobs, “jobs that Apple outsources to China ‘aren’t coming back’”

  • Tom
    8:02 pm on March 6th, 2012 15

    There’s a big reason why Apple still relies heavily on Samsung their arch enemy on their hardware parts. Apple hates Samsung’s guts. Still, without Samsung, Apple would be dead in the water, they completely depend on Samsung’s technology.

    If Apple dies tomorrow, Samsung could care less, since Samsung’s weakness in software is held up by Google Android. But Apple can’t live without Samsung.

  • Son of Anarchy
    4:25 pm on March 7th, 2012 16

    Tom, just let it go man….there is nothing you can say or show us with your web links that will make it all better. We all know the truth, so quit beatin the horse it has been dead since 1953!!!

  • Jinro Dukkohbi
    5:47 pm on March 7th, 2012 17

    Tom’s right in #15 – I read somewhere that Apple was considering getting its iPhone screens from Sony, but compared to the AMOLED screens that Samsung makes, the Sony version is crap. So – these Apple and Samsung are to be unlikely bedfellows for quite some time, I would think…

  • Tom
    6:01 pm on March 7th, 2012 18

    Jinro, read this. Apple was to get their screens from Japan’s Sharp. Instead they switched to Samsung/LG, because simply put – they have the best displays. Samsung alone will have $9 billion ($7 billion last year) worth of parts and display orders to fill for Apple. Man… they must be laughing all the way to the bank.

    Korean parts assembled by Chinese labor.. hmm… not many jobs there for Americans…

  • Son of Anarchy
    6:13 pm on March 7th, 2012 19

    Ya, he might be right there but the discussion was leaning towards how Koreans in general “LOVE” to steal other people’s ideas and products then pass them off as their own. Yes I said it TOM I agree with your last statement, but I found this just a few minutes ago.

    As you read it you can tell that a Non-U.S. Citizen wrote it, so it just not only Americans that think that Koreans COPY WAY TOO MUCH!!! Also that is the worst fraud of all IF this person is truly right and college professors are indeed teaching things that did not take place in the South Korean History. In my book to replace history with the lack of truth and ignorance is the ultimate crime in my book.

  • Denny
    6:39 pm on March 7th, 2012 20

    #19 That’s a pro-Japan, anti-Korean site, which is biased and has little credibility.

  • Tom
    6:43 pm on March 7th, 2012 21

    Son Of Anarchy, so your ideal of a counterattack is to point to a blog by a little naive teen girl who happens to be a Japanophile, told of about all these culture thieving done by Koreans, and repeating the online accusations and fabrications made by Chinese and Japanese internet users? yeah yeah, we heard it all before.. Jesus was Korean (yeah right. :lol: ). You must be desperate to google for this stuff, to start a hatefest on Koreans :roll:

  • Leon LaPorte
    6:58 pm on March 7th, 2012 22

    Tom, to be fair, the Koreans stole their hate from the Irish.

  • Son of Anarchy
    7:54 pm on March 7th, 2012 23

    Tom, I been in this country long enough to know the 411 or the 114 (American, but turned backwards or how about 911 or 119 same thing) on the Korean business and the culture. I merely said that I found it on the net and yes I agree with some of what she said. But let’s see who is really Googling crap:

    One out of five times you went to an outside off the wall so-called news and history website. If you think that Wikipedia is 100% true then I truly feel for you. I posted “ONE” website and you say “You must be desperate to Google for this stuff”. Well Turbo, you must have selective vision!!! Guess I am going to have to treat you like the North Korean’s and forget about ya. Just knowing that I am right and that chaps your a$$ is enough for me. So go look in the mirror and have a hate fest on yourself.

  • Tom
    7:03 am on March 8th, 2012 24

    There’s a big difference between googling to backup the information which I’m giving to you, versus your googling and posting private opinions based on unsubstantiated evidences, just so that you can prove your hatred. Two very different things there pal. Even all your buddies here will probably agree to what I’m saying. :razz: If you believe Korea stole those shows without paying anything, as you claim, then prove it. You can’t prove it because it’s not true. :razz:

  • Overwhelingly Peaceful...
    8:48 am on March 8th, 2012 25

    “Tom”, Who are you calling “pal”? By your own choices and your own words you have no friends here.

  • Son of Anarchy
    3:57 pm on March 8th, 2012 26

    AMEN #25 :lol:

  • Tom
    4:15 pm on March 8th, 2012 27

    I have no friends here. :cry:

  • Leon LaPorte
    4:23 pm on March 8th, 2012 28

    27. I’ll be your friend, Tom. :o

  • Glans
    6:52 pm on March 8th, 2012 29

    I like Tom.

  • setnaffa
    9:16 pm on March 8th, 2012 30

    Well, now Tom has bare feet and two friends…

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  • kangaji
    9:25 pm on March 8th, 2012 31

    Anybody tried to proxy-server netflix to get it in Korea?

  • Leon LaPorte
    9:31 pm on March 8th, 2012 32

    31. A for pay proxy might work but a free one will never have enough bandwidth. Anyway, just download the torrent. With the speeds here you can usually download a popular movie in way under an hour. :twisted:

  • Glans
    1:39 am on June 27th, 2012 33

    U.S. District Judge Lucy Koh stopped Samsung Electronics from selling its Galaxy Tab 10.1 in the United States. The case in U.S. District Court, Northern District of California, is Apple Inc v. Samsung Electronics Co Ltd et al, 11-1846. Dan Levine reports for Reuters.

  • Tom
    5:00 am on June 27th, 2012 34

    Samsuck should be banned from the world. They are thieves. Only Apple should be allowed to stand. Samsuck should be destroyed and all the evil Koreans with it. I want to once again apologize for the Koreans, who have no shame and who have caused so much suffering to the American people. This is yet another example of bad Koreans being bad. Is there anything I can do to show my apology?

  • wilksoft
    4:31 pm on August 29th, 2012 35

    I stumbled upon this blog and feel like putting in my 2 cents even if the trail is old… Just wondering why Mr. “Son of Anarchy” wastes his time in the country he doesn’t seem to like that much. I’ve been to a few countries in my lifetime and I saw every country has something beautiful to learn from and see. My advice to you is live positive. Look at yourself before you belittle others. You won’t bring out anything much by just being negative. Have you ever thought you might be wrong? Are you that good to be judgemental on people around you? Find peace in you.


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