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Avatar of GI KoreaBy on March 19th, 2012 at 4:28 am

Iran Reportedly Sent North Korea $55 Million To Conduct Dirty Bomb Test

Here is a further example of the continued cooperation between Iran and North Korea to develop their nuclear weapons program:

German and Japanese intelligence sources Monday, March 5, confirmed – and qualified – to DEBKAfile reports in the German Der Spiegel and Welt am Sonntag that Western intelligence had known for 11 months that at least one of North Korea’s covert nuclear tests in 2010 was carried out on an Iranian radioactive bomb or nuclear warhead.
Those sources report five facts are known for sure:

1. North Korea carried out two covert underground nuclear explosions in mid-April and around May 11 of 2010 equivalent to 50- 200 tonnes of TNT.
2. Two highly lethal heavy hydrogen isotopes, deuterium and tritium,  typical of a nuclear fission explosion and producing long-term contamination of the atmosphere, were detected and analyzed by  Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty Organization (CTBOTO) monitoring stations in South Korea, Japan and Russia.

3. The presence of tritium in one of the tests led several intelligence agencies watching North Korea’s nuclear program and its longstanding links with Iran and Syria to examine the possibility that Pyongyang had tested the internal mechanism of a nuclear warhead on Iran’s behalf.  This strongly indicated to German and Japanese intelligence that Iran had already developed the nuclear warhead’s outer shell and attained its weaponization.  [DEBKAfile via the Marmot's Hole]

It has been long reported that Iran and North Korea have been working together to develop their ICBM technology and the fact they are working together on a nuclear test program should not be surprising either.  I think the big question that needs to be asked is, why is this information being released now when the covert nuclear test happened two years ago?  I let people draw their own conclusions.

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  • Bill
    5:47 am on March 19th, 2012 1

    Probably because it is election year, and even Japan and Germany don’t want Obama re-elected, since he’s been such an abject failure both internationally and domestically. This just highlites more of those international failures.

    Be more interesting though to see who those countries will support during this election, since the last one Obama (and of course the Democratic Party), made such a big deal about international support of him.

  • K
    5:56 am on March 19th, 2012 2

    ‘I think the big question that needs to be asked is, why is this information being released now when the covert nuclear test happened two years ago?’

    Knowing what a perpetual example of journalistic bullshytness DEBKA Files is will easily answer you that question.

  • Teadrinker
    6:51 am on March 19th, 2012 3

    “This just highlites more of those international failures.”


  • Bill
    7:19 am on March 19th, 2012 4

    Teadrinker – Obama went out and killed all of those people himself?

    And of course that site also fails to mention how many of those ‘folks’ were able to be identified and targeted due to ‘interrogations’ at Gitmo under Bush, like Osama bin Laden. The interrogation of a suspect there gave them (us) the alias of a previously unknown courier of Osama, who they were then able to eventually identify, track down and monitor, which in turn led directly to Osama’s safe house. That whole process took over 6 years, from the time first disclosure of the courier’s alias.

    And, I’ll bet that Obama has personally apoligized to more countries than there are “victims” listed on that site, since it only lists 21.

  • Teadrinker
    7:28 am on March 19th, 2012 5


    “Teadrinker – Obama went out and killed all of those people himself?”

    And of course that site also fails to mention how many of those ‘folks’ were able to be identified and targeted due to ‘interrogations’ at Gitmo under Bush…”

    Sigh…So Obama isn’t responsible but Bush is?

    How can anyone argue with logic like that?

  • Bill
    7:36 am on March 19th, 2012 6

    I never said that. I merely pointed out that it doesn’t matter who is in office, they don’t gather the intel or pull the trigger themselves. And none of it is “spur of the moment”, it takes years of intel gathering to pinpoint these scum and track them down, and even then luck plays a big part.

    Claiming Obama ‘killed’ those folks, as both you and that site purport to claim (just look at the title of the article), is just disingenious at best.

  • K
    8:43 am on March 19th, 2012 7

    Are we all aware that we are arguing over DEBKA Files?

  • setnaffa
    4:56 pm on March 19th, 2012 8

    Just more of the “smart diplomacy” we were promised… Yet even obamanizers like Teadrinker retort that Obama is just like Bush…

    Hope and Change… When is he gonna pay my mortgage and fill my gas tank?

  • Teadrinker
    4:58 pm on March 19th, 2012 9


    Biased a bit, eh?

  • MCDB
    6:29 pm on March 19th, 2012 10

    Bill, you need to add to your media mix. I’ll leave it at that ;)

  • Lazy_Contractor
    7:34 pm on March 19th, 2012 11

    Stop wasting yer time trying to argue with these conservatives with all these links to facts and sh1t. They can’t be reasoned with. As a moderate Republican – I have learned they are as insane as the ultra-liberals of the late 80s/early 90s.

  • Avatar of GI KoreaGI Korea
    8:48 pm on March 19th, 2012 12

    @2 – The Debka Files did not break this story the German newspaper Die Welt did:

    While US and Israeli leaders were talking tough on Iran at last week’s AIPAC Policy Conference, reports and rumors began swirling that Iran may very well be closer to the bomb than previously believed. Some foreign intelligence agencies are now beginning to say that in 2010, Iran may have been involved in an experimental detonation of a uranium bomb in North Korea.

    The accusation was first made public by senior German defense figure, Hans Ruhle, and first appeared on the website of the German newspaper Die Welt. Ruhle headed the planning department of the German Defense Ministry from 1982 to 1988.

  • K
    2:36 am on March 20th, 2012 13

    The fact that more significant outlets – the ones in the US in particular – are more cautious in the dissemination of the same ‘story’ is a palpable indication that the report is not yet entirely factualized and supported as such, or isn’t yet critically notable.

    We should probably phrase an answer to the question that does not completely dismiss the possibility ourselves that those reports and rumors, until we can avail ourselves more open information on the subject matter, are more politically charged and sensational than they are actually based on reliably verifiable and notable facts. DEBKA’s late flogging of the dead horse is almost assuredly the former.

  • Bill
    3:32 am on March 20th, 2012 14

    #11 – Your name says it all, ’nuff said.
    Teadrinker – And JFK slept with Marilyn Monroe and others at the White House. Does that excuse Clinton? Same analogy, but across party lines between your comparison of Bush and Obama.

    What has Obama accomplished directly through HIS policies, not as part of a carryover from someone else? $6/gallon gas? Directly apologize to most of the countries in the world we aren’t friendly with and insult those we are friendly with?

  • Glans
    4:08 am on March 20th, 2012 15

    Deuterium is lethal? Um, maybe that news report isn’t 100% reliable.

  • Glans
    7:49 pm on April 7th, 2012 16

    Iran is still not producing nuclear bombs:

    “The expanded espionage effort has confirmed the consensus view expressed by the U.S. intelligence community in a controversial estimate released publicly in 2007. That estimate concluded that while Iran remains resolutely committed to assembling key building blocks for a nuclear weapons program, particularly enriched uranium, the nation’s leaders have opted for now against taking the crucial final step: designing a nuclear warhead. ‘It isn’t the absence of evidence, it’s the evidence of an absence,’ said one former intelligence official briefed on the findings. ‘Certain things are not being done.’”

    Joby Warrick and Greg Miller report at WashingtonPost with help from Julie Tate.


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