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ROK Drop Open Thread – April 15, 2012

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  • tbonetylr
    6:12 am on April 15th, 2012 1

    How to Fix the World Bank – Not with Jim Yong Kim
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/09/opinion/how-to-fix-the-world-bank.html
    “The Economist and Financial Times have endorsed Dr. Kim’s main competitor, Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, an economist who is Nigeria’s finance minister and a former managing director of the bank. José Antonio Ocampo, a former Colombian finance minister and high-ranking United Nations official, has also been put forward as an alternative. Petitions are circulating among former bank officials and economists supporting the alternatives to Dr. Kim.”

  • Rosa Manson
    6:43 am on April 15th, 2012 2

    Looking into the four death camps and seventeen or more concentrationa and labour camps in North Korea. The Amnesty International Campaign for April is to try to close down all prison camps in North Korea.

    Also the World Food Programme (WFP) as of the 12th April 2012,has failed to reach an agreement with North Korea in talks this week on continuing food aid programmes and has stopped supplying aid to most of the 6.4 million people it fed last year. The WFP had two days of talks in Pyongyang on the North’s request for the agency to wind down its food programmes by the end of this month and switch to development aid. Aid Workers say the timetable is to short and could leave many hungry. The WFP will hold more talks with the North over the next few weeks.

  • Jinro Dukkohbi
    6:47 am on April 15th, 2012 3

    I wonder if the Secret Service will get a curfew too? :roll:

    http://news.yahoo.com/obamas-partying-guards-embarrass-u-summit-015304497.html

    This article mentions 16 security personnel – most of the first reports coming out said 11 Secret Service agents were involved, and some ‘alternate’ news sources are saying the other 5 are GIs who were working with the secret service. Guess they need a courtesy patrol there as well :razz: Looks like we’ve got some scandal-palooza going on with Obama just in time for the election ramp-up, between this and the GSA mess…

  • tbonetylr
    6:50 am on April 15th, 2012 4

    Bill Maher’s take on North Koreans, Pong, and Retro Rocket,
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIntjCkO9Tc

  • Conway Eastwood
    11:59 am on April 15th, 2012 5

    Upgrading to an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 soon. Hello 60 frames per second!

  • JFisher
    12:16 pm on April 15th, 2012 6

    ROSA #2: Do you seriously think Amnesty International has any
    influence with NK. Certainly you can not be that naive. That
    begs the question, why bring it up at all?

  • barbara wright
    1:08 pm on April 15th, 2012 7

    Question- Is there any ROK’s out there that served with a US Army unit nicknamed Ghost Walkers in 1963 if so I’d like to hear from you. I am doing a story about Ghost Walkers.

  • tbonetylr
    3:25 pm on April 15th, 2012 8

    North Koreans denounce US imperialism and S. Korean puppets as food donations are withheld. CNN’s Stan Grant reports/interviews N. Korean soldiers from Pyongyang stadium.
    http://cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2012/04/14/grant-pkg-north-korea-sworn-enemies.cnn

  • tbonetylr
    4:15 pm on April 15th, 2012 9

    # 3 Jinro,
    Michele Bachmann said “there are stories that this(secret service and prostitutes) has spread into the military.” She said it in the last part of this video.
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032608/vp/47054224#47054224

  • nue
    4:29 pm on April 15th, 2012 10

    #1 – I think Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala will be the best choice. He has $650 million in funds which he, “by virtue of [his] position as a civil servant”, cannot acquire in his name. He’s agreed to share some of it with me if I provide my account information. If he could find a legal way to transfer all of that money to the World Bank . . .

  • tbonetylr
    4:34 pm on April 15th, 2012 11

    Korean Netizens Hate on Waygookins –
    http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2012/04/117_109014.html
    “The 35-year-old, who married a Korean in 1995 and obtained Korean citizenship three years later, is the first naturalized Korean to be made a lawmaker. Her husband died in 2010.
    But since the election, some Netizens have posted messages attacking Lee, many of which are based on false information about her or due to racism.

    A tweeter said, “Following the immigrant wife Lee’s entry to the Assembly, we can well predict the rise of unregistered foreigners and foreign women marrying in return for money. We’ll see the truth of multiculturalism that exploits Koreans.”

    Contrary to these claims, Lee dated her husband before getting married and is a legal resident.”

  • tbonetylr
    4:39 pm on April 15th, 2012 12

    # 10,
    Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala is a woman. Imagine a black African woman being better than an ethnic Korean man.

  • nue
    6:03 pm on April 15th, 2012 13

    #12 – Ah! That should have been my first clue that the email was a scam then!

  • Leon LaPorte
    8:05 pm on April 15th, 2012 14

    No one has noted that the 100th anniversary of the Titanic sinking and Kim Il Sung’s 100th birthday are the same day? Both were disasters.

  • The only god or gods there is are the one's with the big sticks and the deepest pockets
    9:58 pm on April 15th, 2012 15

    To all you religious fanactics both christance, Jews,
    muslims there is no god for you by you with you of you in you on you beside you front of you behind you on top of you and no where around you. You all are along in this world by yourselfs. The closest a humans will get to a meaning of or ideal of a so called gods of this world is one of these man made gods that get the ups on the rest of us, example dictators, king, queen monarch, communist or just bad leader. For those of you who want to be in the sprite of a good god, lead
    by a good example that is void of all misdeeds that harm others and do unto others as you would want others do unto you. Now does that mean you can
    committe adultry, steal, drink alcolhol, smoke, cheat, lust, what ever make you happy as long as no harm is
    done. Hehe that mean animals inclouded. The reason we here on earth still beleaved that there is a god is because humans or man is still in his childhood state so what ever you tell him or them in these time he or she will beleaved it.

  • Leon LaPorte
    12:06 am on April 16th, 2012 16

    Coherent thoughts and sentences are welcome! :roll:

  • kushibo
    12:43 am on April 16th, 2012 17

    Tbonetylr wrote:

    Korean Netizens Hate on Waygookins

    Right HERE is all you need to know about Netizens wagging their tongues and thumbs behind the security of anonymity.

    I loathe the intellectually stunted journalists who are all too common in Korea, who frequently go back to Netizens to mine their nonsense for “news.”

    Jasmine Lee will be an asset to the National Assembly. Her constituents know it and I hope most other SoKos know it.

  • tbonetylr
    1:08 am on April 16th, 2012 18

    # 17,
    From the KT article,
    “Another tweeter sarcastically said, “Korea is a paradise for foreigners. Korea gives foreigners benefits which it doesn’t even give to its nationals. Come to Korea, you can become lawmakers.”

    Imagine during the 2005 English Spectrum gate a Korean newspaper suggesting a negative comment about S. Korea or S. Koreans is only sarcasm. Actually, imagine it anytime ever,

  • kushibo
    1:20 am on April 16th, 2012 19

    Tbonetylr, I’m not sure your parallel holds. In the current case, a tweeter said something positive when they obviously meant something negative, which is the very definition of sarcasm.

    In your example, it would be someone saying something negative but the newspaper saying should be positive. It’s kinda sorta the opposite.

    Anyway, what the Netizens have to say is about as newsworthy as the vile anti-Hispanic, anti-Asian, and anti-Black stuff that pollutes the Facebook-linked comments sections of my hometown newspaper, the Orange County Register. Holding up hatred-spewing people as some lofty example of general public opinion only emboldens them. This is lazy and craven on the part of the KT. If they can’t get people on the street to say that to them directly, then don’t print it.

  • tbonetylr
    2:33 am on April 16th, 2012 20

    The point being they excused it or explained it as sarcasm, and I guess it depends who you talk to as to whether Korea being a paradise is pos/neg. Same goes with Koreans not receiving benefits. But I’ll agree street duty in needed.

  • Tom
    4:40 am on April 16th, 2012 21

    I have to agree with Kushibo on this. Just go have a look at American sites and read all the hateful comments made by Americans against other races. Now Tbone is crying about Koreans? :lol:

    These are the real issues, Tbone. American servicemen abandoning their juicy girl live in girlfriends and their children, from Philippines and Mongolia. There are thousands of them in Dongducheon alone. The children have no nationality, and Korea is left to hold the bag because you people’s irresponsibility.

    http://www.hani.co.kr/arti/society/rights/528525.html

  • kangaji
    6:26 am on April 16th, 2012 22

    Tom has acquired the power of “you people”~! :lol:

  • Tom
    6:41 am on April 16th, 2012 23

    Ok then how about you creatures? :lol:

  • tbonetylr
    7:35 am on April 16th, 2012 24

    # 21,
    Who operates those juicy bars?
    Kids with Korean nationality don’t mean much to Koreans i.e. look at all the Korean children who aren’t adopted. Get off your high horse. I’m not condoning any poor behavior love/lust relationship gone bad but don’t Korean males F*** and forget women?
    About the Kushibo’s link, it’s 6 years old, since then the S. Korean government has come out and basically asked itself how to stop hate speech on S. Korean governmental websites, etc…And we already know about the 20.000 member strong hate group on Naver cafe that is allowed to continue spreading hate while Naver says it doesn’t exist. Tom, what you say isn’t true. That’s what Naver would tell you.

  • George
    8:09 am on April 16th, 2012 25

    Tbone and Tom are opposite sides of the same coin. Both are looking through their binoculars the wrong way around and think they have a panorama view.Tbone should read some Korean language press and read the comments section of American news stories before he types a word.

  • Tom
    8:28 am on April 16th, 2012 26

    #24,

    And who are the customers of those juicy bars, Tbone?
    Furthermore the purpose of the bars is to have a little drink with the ladies and enjoy their company, not to indiscriminately have half round eye kids and abandoned Filipino women for Korea to take responsibility of. After all you guys are not animals who have sex anywhere making tons of babies.. oh wait.. on second thought…

  • tbonetylr
    8:43 am on April 16th, 2012 27

    # 25,
    “should read some Korean language press and read the comments section of American news stories”

    I do! What do you know that I don’t?

  • tbonetylr
    8:51 am on April 16th, 2012 28

    #26,
    This isn’t a chicken or the egg question. And if you don’t know how foreign women are pressured to meet outrageous drink quotas or else(sex) then you don’t know much. Actually, I don’t know much about the sex industry. I’m just going by common knowledge in which I doubt S. Korea/Dongducheon is any different than most any Asian whore house.

    I expect “George” to step in here and help me out :cool:

  • tbonetylr
    8:58 am on April 16th, 2012 29

    Here you go Tom,
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097351/
    “If You Build it They Will Come?

    Americans ain’t building it :roll:

  • I am not impressed by a simple man who is a so call priest who wears a collars
    9:07 am on April 16th, 2012 30

    Putting a collar on a priest does not mean a hill of beans or should it impress you or I one bit he’s just another simple man who has a job as a agent for a fake god; as any other agent such as a insurance agent, secret agent, federal agent, state agent or any other agent just a agent if he or she can’t walk thru wall, disappear or stop a bullet with his teeth then you are not who you say you are give me a WOW!! moment if you can’t then shouts up there is no god as it is taught here on this earth, BS all off it. The closest a human can get to their ideal of the meaning of god is to…….. lead by example……and do unto other as you would want others to do unto you. And please never trust your young kids around the priest with white collars find your priest a girl friend so he want be after your kids. and vice versa for the sister’s to it all BS…Out of all 8 billions people on this earth not one can come up with any tangible evidence that there is any resemblances of a god. Now that I given you your freedom go have fun drink and be marry. For as I am concerned Rabies, priest, preachers, clerics,popes,papels, archbishops, bishops all are pimps if you don’t beleaved me look inside their treasurey and see how full it is hundreds,millions,billion and trillion of money while people it all BS not a brain of value to it for the commomn good of any nation.

  • tbonetylr
    9:56 am on April 16th, 2012 31

    #25 George,
    Would you please follow this story for me because without you I’m sure I just won’t understand aye?
    2 Arirang TV officials get prison terms
    http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2012/04/116_109023.html

    I only ask because I doubt Arirang will be covering the story and since you act like you know more than me.

  • tbonetylr
    10:19 am on April 16th, 2012 32

    George,
    Before you offer to do so may I ask if you’re Korean? If you are then please don’t worry because I don’t want to stress you out.
    “Numbers show life in Korea depressing”
    http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/biz/2012/04/123_109066.html
    “After collating official figures to measure the country’s economic “misery index,” the results show that life of late has become dramatically tougher, according to a senior researcher at a leading banking group.
    The country continually struggles to cope with weaker family finances, and widening inequality and unemployment as citizens pay a premium for a lifetime of mediocrity.

    The misery index is an economic indicator created by economist Arthur Okun and is calculated by adding the unemployment rate to the inflation rate.
    It’s doubtful that Koreans will be happier this year. Indicators like the GNI per capita or inflation have yet to show that the squeeze on living standards will ease,” Song said.”

    If you’re Korean then look carefully at how I used the word stress in a sentence since jobs or salary increases often depend on it.

  • John in NY
    10:29 am on April 16th, 2012 33

    #30, what language is that?

  • kushibo
    10:36 am on April 16th, 2012 34

    Tbonetylr wrote:

    The point being they excused it or explained it as sarcasm, and I guess it depends who you talk to as to whether Korea being a paradise is pos/neg.

    Tbonetylr, I say this to be helpful not rude or anything, but I think a big chunk of your “difficulties” in life is that you’re trying to find something to get pissed off about even when it doesn’t warrant it.

    Indeed, the KT writer was explaining that this particular tweet was said sarcastically. She did so because it was, on the surface, a glowing comment about how foreigners should come to Korea because they are treated so well, when in fact the tweeter meant the opposite: Don’t come.

    Using the word “sarcastically” was to clearly state that the “positive” comment was actually a negative one. It was not “excusing it” or explaining it away.

    There’s enough in the subject matter in the article to find offensive without deciding that the author is trying to act like none of this is a big deal. (If it weren’t a big deal, why write the article in the first place?)

  • tbonetylr
    10:44 am on April 16th, 2012 35

    Darn,
    I read this article and never learned what the penalty is/was. Maybe this is the Donga Ilbo’s way of excusing the police?
    “Punishment for false emergency callers too light in Korea”
    http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2012041613578
    “Korea takes a lenient stance on those who make false emergency calls on crime, in contrast to the global practice of harsh civil and criminal penalties to such prank callers.

    This is because such prank calls threaten lives by hindering the emergency posture of law enforcement officials and waste taxpayers` money. So the fine in many countries for a prank caller can reach hundreds of dollars, and certain governments track those who cry wolf to claim damages.”

    Truth be told, I never expected to learn what the punishment is/was because Koreans can lie to the police without going to jail or being punished/fined.

    Gosh, I wish I knew the Korean language better. Ask Koreans on the street about their laws and most won’t know about them. If only I knew Korean better aye George? When I tell my students they can lie to the Korean police without worrying much about it they thank me for telling them. But really, it’s not like they wouldn’t lie to them anyway aye?

  • kushibo
    10:55 am on April 16th, 2012 36

    Tbonetylr wrote:

    About the Kushibo’s link, it’s 6 years old, since then the S. Korean government has come out and basically asked itself how to stop hate speech on S. Korean governmental websites, etc…

    Hate speech or not, the gist of that news piece still stands: a very tiny sliver of the online population is responsible for a vastly, vastly, vastly disproportionate amount of the online comments:

    During that period, 41,944,832 people visited Naver News. Of these, 350,545, or 0.84 percent, left at least one comment. This means that less than one person in a 100 who read a piece of news leaves a comment. And of those that left comments, the 11,878 members of the “Super-Comment Tribe,” who write on average over 70 comments a month, left 2,212,813 of the 4,373,306 comments that were left during the 10-day period. In other words, they were responsible for 50.6 percent of the total comments from the survey period. The Super-Comment Tribe might make up only 3.4 percent of commenters, but they form the “hub” that manufactures Internet opinion.

    The numbers are certainly different from site to site or month to month, but how different would it be today? A tiny, tiny handful of people who (a) are emboldened by their anonymity, (b) bored enough to do little more than comment on websites all freakin’ day, and (c) emboldened by the power they wield.

    And we already know about the 20.000 member strong hate group on Naver cafe that is allowed to continue spreading hate while Naver says it doesn’t exist. Tom, what you say isn’t true. That’s what Naver would tell you.

    The 20K-member strong AES (that’s who you’re talking about, right?) is an apples and oranges difference with the 11,878 of the Comment Super Tribe.

    The 20K of AES are not all leaving millions of comments a month. I’m sure a few of them might be part of the “Super Comment Tribe,” but most are just people who leave some comments with each other. It’s not the same thing, and it certainly doesn’t negate my point that a handful of people are manufacturing supposedly “common man” netizen opinion.

    As for Naver allowing the group to spread hate, that was predictably the result of the ham-handed ATEK going after AES bass-ackwards. They should have gone to the Human Rights commission before they forced AES’s hand and got them to take down all their hate crap. After it was all taken down, what hate stuff was up that would get anyone to see they’d been a hate group?

    Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

  • Leon LaPorte
    3:42 pm on April 16th, 2012 37

    33. I think he is speaking in tongues.

  • George
    7:59 pm on April 16th, 2012 38

    Tbone – by your comments and links, I don’t believe for a minute you understand enough Korean to watch or read Korean LANGUAGE media.

  • G.I. G.I. Joe
    9:37 am on April 17th, 2012 39

    [The Hankyoreh Editorial] Don’t paint all foreign workers with a single brush

    Cyberspace is spinning with outlandish claims about the need to expel all Korean-Chinese from the country or the supposed disappearance of over 100 women from the area where the murder took place. Most ethnic Koreans from China work diligently and quietly to support their families and educate their children in China. It is irrational to say the least to direct sweeping criticisms at all of them. When Seung-Hui Cho carried out a shooting spree at Virginia Tech a few years ago, Americans did not criticize Koreans as a group. We should step inside the other side’s shoes and consider how dangerous it is to blame a group for the misdeeds of a single member.

    Claims that the migrant worker community is a hotbed of violent crime also lack factual support. More often, they are victims of crime. The crime rate among foreigners living in South Korea is lower than among South Koreans.

  • tbonetylr
    10:10 am on April 17th, 2012 40

    Kushibo, you are rude because you try to put me down by pretending you don’t have “difficulties.” I stopped reading after that. Sorry, but you failed to build yourself up. :roll:

    George, you didn’t answer my question. Do you understand English?

  • kushibo
    11:03 am on April 17th, 2012 41

    Oh, sh¡t on a stick, Tbonetylr, I have difficulties living in Seoul. I have difficulties living in Honolulu.

    But my difficulties are things that actually happen and not things I imagine from misinterpretations when I deliberately go out looking for something to be pissed off about.

    Things will seem like such a pain in the backside when you stop carrying around the Rhode Island-sized chip on your shoulder. ;-)

  • kushibo
    11:06 am on April 17th, 2012 42

    Grrr… Things won’t seem like such a pain in the backside when you stop carrying around the Rhode Island-sized chip on your shoulder. :roll:

  • no comment tv
    8:55 am on April 20th, 2012 43

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIAcY7VpZo0

  • Tom Langley
    11:59 am on April 20th, 2012 44

    GI Korea, Defense Secretary Panetta said that the NK missiles paraded before Lil Kim (He doesn’t look so little to me. NK could probably solve their food crisis by cutting down his food rations.) are based upon Red Chinese technology. The transporters look very similar to Red Chinese models & may have been built in RC. This is a violation of UN sanctions against NK if true. Could you or somebody post a link as I don’t know how, thanks.

 

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