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Avatar of GI KoreaBy on April 18th, 2012 at 6:35 am

Air Force and Marine Personnel Implicated In Secret Service Columbia Prostitution Scandal

Further information is coming out now about the US military involvement in the Secret Service scandal in Columbia.  Apparently it was 7 Air Force personnel and 2 Marines who were part of a bomb disposal team that got caught up in this scandal:

Investigators believe that as many as 21 women were brought by U.S. Secret Service and military personnel to the Hotel Caribe in Cartagena, Colombia, last week during a night of carousing, a dramatic increase in the number of women previously disclosed by government officials.

Officials said 11 Secret Service and 10 military personnel are suspected of misconduct that took place before President Obama arrived in Colombia for an economic summit. Initial reports suggested that the military personnel, some of whom were confined to their rooms after the scandal broke, had violated curfew, while the Secret Service members had engaged with the women, who were allegedly working as prostitutes.

But Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) said Tuesday that Secret Service Director Mark Sullivan told her that the preliminary investigation has determined that 20 or 21 women were brought to the hotel last Wednesday night. Agency investigators in Cartagena have obtained copies of the women’s identification cards, which they were required to present at the hotel, and are attempting to interview some of the women, said Rep. Peter T. King (R-N.Y.), head of the House Committee on Homeland Security.

King said investigators have determined that none of the women were minors.  [Washington Post]

You can read more at the link but this sounds much like when Fox News did their big expose’ on prostitution in Korea back in 2002.  People were shocked about the prostitution going on in Korea even though it had been going on since the 1950′s and by the time Fox News did their report it had greatly scaled down compared to prior decades.  Since that report it has scaled down even further.  By the way does anyone know if USFK is still showing that Fox News report to new personnel as part of inprocessing?

I have never been to Columbia but I did have a real good conversation with a US military servicemember who did, so take for what it is worth, but he told me that Columbia is filled with women looking to hook up with Americans.  He said it was kind of like going to Angeles City in the Philippines.  Has any ROK Heads been to Columbia and can confirm this?  So it appears that what these guys were doing is something that had been going on for a long time and everyone turned a blind eye to it until the media got hold of it like what happened with prostitution in Korea.  What is most troubling about this case is that this isn’t Private Tentbag buying time with a Juicy Girl but instead people tasked with protecting the President.  All these Secret Service and military personnel should have known to not take such actions on a mission like this.  What will be interesting to find out is if these Secret Service and military personnel were given specific briefings about prostitution in Columbia and decided to ignore it or not?

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  • Dreamboat Annie
    6:42 am on April 18th, 2012 1

    The Secret Service agents are not just soldiers stationed somewhere. They need to focus on their very important jobs and maintain a high level of security. You never know who wants to assassinate the President and they should never allow themselves to become compromised.

  • Colonel louis T Dechert
    8:43 am on April 18th, 2012 2

    GI Korea,

    I’ll take your baiting.

    Watch this story. It isn’t over or complete and possibly never will be.

    First, based solely on personal uninvolved observations (two SF tours in South America, 1965-69) many of the best looking women in the world are from South America.

    Many of the locals mention growing up at higher altitudes has something to do with it, e.g., Rachel Welch (her father grew up in Bolivian high altitudes). Some of the reports on the current US (not “Secret Service”) scandal mentioned the attractiveness of the women.

    High-priced prostitution always follows the money and high offices (check out New York pols!) and Colombia is run by truckloads of drug money beyond comprehension.

    That brings up the next thought that I want to offer. The question of the threat the Secret Service personnel MIGHT have aided is not against the president–the treat is to what degree drug lords have infiltrated US programs, agencies, and commo-information techs, via prostitution or any other tactic.

    DREAMBOAT’S comment is well-taken, BUT: most military leaders, especially NCO’s, have often asserted that the outfit mirrors the boss. Secret Services and military acting like “Chicago thugs.”

    As the current Las Vegas scandals and other pleasure junkets emphasize, USG travel, more recently starting at highest levels, are party times at the taxpayers expense!

    Don’t let the blame start OR stop with the lowest rank involved in any government expose.


  • Chemlightbatteries
    12:57 pm on April 18th, 2012 3

    Operation “shoot and scoot” was compromised…

  • jimbo
    1:38 pm on April 18th, 2012 4

    part of the CYA for official and leisure travel by military folks to all areas south of the US border is a mandatory human trafficking awareness module. these guys were caught with their pants down, plain fare and square. fry ‘em.

  • Vince
    3:02 pm on April 18th, 2012 5

    [DELETED BY ADMIN: Please don't use derogatory words against gays. Thanks.]

  • Leon LaPorte
    4:03 pm on April 18th, 2012 6

    Yeah, because it is impossible for a man to do his mission if he stuck his junk in a Colombian whore. Following that line of reasoning, we should not allow our SS agents to get married and take a vow of chastity. I guarantee it’s much more likely that a wife is going to be a greater distraction than a couple hours with a whore.

  • Tom Langley
    6:44 pm on April 18th, 2012 7

    The first time I went to Germany was in 1979 on a Reforger (Return of forces to Germany). Well there were 3 great brothels in Frankfurt. One was all Black, the girls were from various countries in Africa. The next one was all Asian, the girls were primarily from Thailand & Vietnam. The third one was Hispanic, the girls were mostly from Columbia. If the soldiers wanted to get a little pogee I say BFD but if they were restricted to the hotel rooms then obviously they violated orders. The Secret Service on the other hand has a 365 day/24 hour duty to protect the President. The news reports stated that the Presidents schedule was posted on the wall of the hotel rooms where anyone could see it. That is absolutely inexcusable. What if something happened to the President because of this? I know that the Secret Service personnel have lost their security clearances but if there is a law that has been broken I hope that they are prosecuted. If there is no such law then I think some laws about Secret Service conduct need to be enacted. This all came out because some stupid SOB didn’t want to pay some extra money to one of the hookers. I bet if he had to do it all over again he just would have paid the b***h.

  • Lazy_Contractor
    7:48 pm on April 18th, 2012 8

    Why is this the big news story?

    It’s to distract everyone of the giant GSA clusterf*ck story.

    Which is the tip of a larger iceberg on massively inefficient government bureaucracy spending.

  • JoeC
    12:53 am on April 19th, 2012 9

    After reading this article, it seems that part of the problem was the SS agents were unfamiliar with the local customs. If they had been regular visitors to the country, someone would have advised that high-end looking women picked up in the bars consider themselves to be “escorts” not prostitutes and demand a higher rate.

    That’s one of the under appreciated benefits of the military’s Green Bean traditions — where new guys get showed the do’s and don’ts of the ville when they first arrive to help them from making those mistakes.

  • Thomas Lee
    6:47 am on April 19th, 2012 10

    The actions of those involved shows a complete lack of respect for the President and it shows that the President’s own staff, that coordinates all these events, has apparently set a tone that for some reason made these people think what they did was OK. While BHO is not personally to blame, the tone he set surely had an effect on the personnel involved and it shows through like a bright shining star. People were quick to blame Bush/Cheney for what happened at Abu Ghairab (rightfully so, IMHO since the buck has to stop somewhere and leadership starts at the VERY top), but so many are quick to give BHO a pass on this matter. It’s truly sad how divided this country has become based strictly on party lines.

  • JoeC
    10:49 am on April 19th, 2012 11


    Hummm? That’s a stretch.

    I could see where Abu Ghairab could be associated with the policies and rhetoric from senior members of the last administration regarding enhanced interrogations. But, what do you see in the “tone” of this administration that you can associate with what happened in Colombia?

    I know it’s an election year, but some people are trying too hard to tie this to politics.

  • Slappy
    11:41 am on April 19th, 2012 12

    Be nice if they held politicians to this standard when they’re out and about overseas on official business.

  • JoeC
    12:34 pm on April 19th, 2012 13

    The reported mix of service members involved has changed.

    Two U.S. military officials have said they include five Army Green Berets. One of the officials said the group also includes two Navy Explosive Ordinance Disposal technicians, two Marine dog handlers and an Air Force airman. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is still under way.

  • Dreamboat Annie
    2:40 pm on April 19th, 2012 14

    6- It’s the compromised security that’s the larger issue.

  • Leon LaPorte
    4:02 pm on April 19th, 2012 15

    14. Really? You believe that?

  • Flyingsword
    4:37 pm on April 19th, 2012 16

    Worst $200 never spent…….

  • Lazy_Contractor
    4:44 pm on April 19th, 2012 17

    “compromised security that’s the larger issue.”


    At which point, terrorists shot out of their vaginas!

    (Don’t believe everything spewed on FOX news.)

  • Hamilton
    5:41 pm on April 19th, 2012 18

    It’s nice to see the Goldwater-Nichols Act finally shaping true joint operations, even a little interagency cooperation….just sayin’.

  • Thomas
    6:14 pm on April 19th, 2012 19

    # 11 Joe, you’re the one trying to turn it “political”. I’m talking about LEADERSHIP, not a person. It’s clear, with all the breaches of security in the BHO admin, that it is not taken seriously by anybody. Even those that are supposed to be providing the security. That’s a failure in leadership.

  • JoeC
    8:19 pm on April 19th, 2012 20


    Are you suggesting that something about “leadership”, or lack of it, brought about a sudden decay in Secret Service standards and procedures? I’d be surprised if someone can show evidence that that is what happened. Agencies, particularly security agencies, don’t change their innate cultures and traditions that abruptly without other telling signs.

    I’m betting this was something of a routine that they became accustomed too. When the advanced team felt they completed their part of the mission they believed they were free to let down and party a little. If it was that much out of character for them there wouldn’t have been so many of them doing it so publicly.

  • JoeC
    9:28 pm on April 19th, 2012 21


    Correction: “advanced team” -> “advance team”

  • Bring back the Unics
    5:27 pm on April 20th, 2012 22

    The power to be might want to employ Unics or a all female security force, that would take care that problem as long as you have real men doing this job you always have this problem. Personally I see nothing wrong except another episode of humans trying to act above what nature intended them to do by design. The president was not in country and theses people been guardding presidents for decades started 1865 and I am sure this is not the first time this sort of thing has happened. furthermore to not leave the women out of this equation I am pretty sure a few Israeli mossad ladies agents was preposition as under cover and I am not talking about in the sack, never know.

  • Far East Cynic » Be careful what you wish for……
    4:35 am on April 21st, 2012 23

    [...] at GI Korea it was brought up that this smells a lot like 2002 when people where shocked, shocked!-that their might be sex going on out [...]


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