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Avatar of GI KoreaBy on April 19th, 2012 at 3:57 am

Air Force Personnel Personally Attacked For Winning Bronze Star

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This story about two Air Force personnel being attacked for being awarded the Bronze Star is pretty disappointing:

Two female airmen who were awarded the Bronze Star have been targeted by cyber bullies who claim they do not deserve their awards, the Air Force Times reported, generating a wider discussion of who should be eligible for the medal.

Tech. Sgt. Christina Gamez, a financial analyst with the 802nd Comptroller Squadron, and Tech. Sgt. Sharma Haynes of the 7th Comptroller Squadron both received their awards for meritorious service in Afghanistan, according to the Air Force Times.

Stories about both awards were posted on the Air Force website and drew dozens of comments attacking the women as well as the decision to award them Bronze Stars. The Air Force removed the story about Gamez “because no one deserves that level of criticism for meritorious service in a combat zone,” David Smith, a spokesman for Air Education and Training Command, told the Times.  [Stars & Stripes]

These two Air Force personnel shouldn’t be attacked because it isn’t like they gave themselves the Bronze Star.  Somebody recommended them and then a general officer signed off on the awards.  If the commenters critical of these two Air Force personnel want to attack someone then attack the general that signed off on the award.  Also something else people need to realize that often servicemembers are awarded the Bronze Star not because of heroic combat actions but because of the amount of responsibility they had while deployed.  Some general officer agreed that these two Air Force NCO’s had enough responsibility and did their job well enough to be awarded the Bronze Star.

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  • Teadrinker
    3:50 am on April 19th, 2012 1

    “Many commenters said that the women should not have gotten awards simply for doing their jobs, and that the Air Force awards too many medals.

    A Times analysis showed that most Bronze Stars are awarded for meritorious service: about 6.3 percent of the Bronze Stars awarded by the Air Force are for combat valor, compared with about 2.6 percent of the medals awarded by the Army.”

    Which ironically proves that opinions are like assholes, everyone has one…and they should keep it to themselves.

  • Hamilton
    4:38 am on April 19th, 2012 2

    Yours is the biggest Teadrinker!

    A US Army blogger writes a story supporting the AF TSgts receiving the award and you criticize the US Army. 1st WTF?

    The Bronze Star Medal (BSM, or BSV with valor device) is a United States Armed Forces individual military decoration that may be awarded for bravery, acts of merit, or meritorious service. So you criticize the Army for giving an award that may be given for merit, for giving it for merit more often than the AF. 2nd WTF?

    It’s an MSM level award for recipients who were in a combat environment. I seriously doubt your claims to having served.

    I’m all for awards but I would like a joint board review and I know the time delay that would cause. Regardless of Army, Navy, Marines or Airforce, all elements have units that are soft on awards and ones that are completely insane. “No purple heart, then no CAB for you!”, versus “you heard a gunshot, OMG have a ARCOM with V device and CAB sweetie.”

    Rant over.

  • Thomas
    10:21 am on April 19th, 2012 3

    At least it’s not GULF WAR I where they gave Bronze Stars to every member of certain battalions/brigades.

  • JoeC
    11:33 am on April 19th, 2012 4

    I think the complaints are coming from people who equate military medal with heroics. And heroics in combat means charging into gunfire.

    The criteria for the Bronze Star for meritorious service is the same as that for the Meritorious Service Medal, except it’s earned when the service period is in a combat zone. But fewer people complain when others get MSMs because the meritorious service part is in the title.

    So, the only question should be, what’s the standard for meritorious service? Some complain, “He got a medal just for doing his job.” Often the people making those complaints don’t really know what that person’s job normally involves. But as you advance through the military, you will likely be able to observe acts of meritorious service first hand.

    It’s the guy or gal in an understaffed positions who is on call at all hours who comes in to get the job done that no one else can do, often in loads way above what is expected at a Stateside base, and sometimes even beyond what they are trained or qualified to do. They do it with no apparent or audible complaints. They don’t have to be people manning or carrying a weapon system. They are very often support personnel. You will know who they are on deployments and remote assignments. Think Radar O’Reilly from M*A*S*H.

  • Slappy
    11:44 am on April 19th, 2012 5

    #3, exactly what I think.

  • Dreamboat Annie
    2:34 pm on April 19th, 2012 6

    In some units you could jump on a grenade to save the President and you wouldn’t get an award, and in others if you show up for work on time you get an award. It all depends on the officers and if they feel like rewarding those who do the real work.

  • Truth
    2:39 pm on April 19th, 2012 7

    I still have my awards listed on my resume… wonder if any employer ever really looks at that section…

  • Hot Stuff
    7:37 pm on April 19th, 2012 8

    @6, it also depends greatly on the individual’s supervisor or other responsible person to fill out and submit the paperwork with adequate justification.

  • sumguykorea
    7:59 pm on April 19th, 2012 9

    The were probably “90 Day wonders” that if their AF unit goes to the desert they get all kinds of inflated medals and awards while they sit in the air conditioned offices playing computer games, watching movies, listening to music. I heard the AF will give you a medal for crapping in an outhouse there because it is “dangerous” conditions over there.

  • Teadrinker
    8:31 pm on April 19th, 2012 10

    “Yours is the biggest Teadrinker!

    A US Army blogger writes a story supporting the AF TSgts receiving the award and you criticize the US Army. 1st WTF?”

    Failed remedial English? I was merely pointing out those who claim the Air Force hands out too many awards for anything but bravery clearly doesn’t know the facts, which is that most medals are awarded for having an exemplary service record. The irony is that the USAF actually hands out a higher percentage of its medals for bravery (which is to be expected when you remember that many pilots are commissioned officers (and it the bravery of commissioned officers is more frequently recognized, or at least that’s how it seems from my point of perspective (I served in country that awards the Victoria Cross, and not many non-commissioned officer are awarded that one).

    And for the record, I was in the army. I’ve got a picture of me in my green beret to prove it (the beret itself is in storage with some of my other gear at my in-laws…I dropped by my former base to sign my release papers while I was on my way to the airport to Korea. Everything I wasn’t required to return, I brought with me to Korea).

  • Hamilton
    11:12 pm on April 20th, 2012 11

    There’s no irony TD you need to work on your remedial logic skills and a picture of you in a beret doesn’t impress me or anyone else here. Your lack of knowledge on military affairs has been consitently bad.

    You can’t hide behind Canadian service, I’ve served with many Canadians. They actually are quite sharp unlike you.

  • Teadrinker
    2:13 am on April 21st, 2012 12

    #11,
    :roll:
    You seem to be intent on proving that you’re as dull as a butter knife. Keep it up, you’ve been successful thus far.

  • Retired GI
    5:24 am on April 21st, 2012 13

    3-4-6-8. Just wanted to add my agreement to these statements. Like most GIs, I believe I earned more than I received, but that’s ok. What really sucks is when individuals receive what they didn’t earn. I have no idea about the two in this story. Don’t really care either.

    However, being forgotten by your unit when you retire, that does “hurt” just alittle.
    When you’re told that your year in Iraq will be used as a “bullet statement” for your retirement award, that was troubling.

    Then to not receive an award at retirement, well “forgotten” is the only word that comes to mind. At least I did get an NCOER for that last year. That was more important for me.

    Have I said lately just how focked up 1st CAV is?

 

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