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Avatar of GI KoreaBy on May 5th, 2012 at 5:56 am

US Army Restores CSM Teresa King As Commandant of the US Army’s Drill Sergeant School

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Via a reader tip comes news that CSM Teresa King has been reinstated as the commandant of the US Army’s Drill Sergeant School:

The first female boss at the Army’s prestigious drill sergeant school is getting her job back.

Command Sgt. Maj. Teresa King took legal action against the service, claiming she was improperly suspended in November because of sexism and racism.

Attorney James Smith said King will be reinstated as commandant at the drill sergeant school at Fort Jackson in south Carolina.

The Associated Press reported Monday that King filed a legal complaint against two of her military superiors and asked that her suspension be reversed.

The attorney says King has been vindicated. He planned a news conference later in the day.  [Fox News]

Like I had said before the only things I could see going against her was the fact she never deployed and she had a diploma mill degree.  She would not have been removed from her position due to either issue because the people that put her in the commandant position would have already known about it.   It appears this is the guy that tried to take her down, another CSM named John Calpena:

Calpena has done this to fellow soldiers before, Smith said. He was especially jealous of King because she was a woman and had not been in combat, the lawyer said.

“He would continue to use these facts as a way to undermine and cultivate others in opposition. He’d say, `I shouldn’t have to work for you. You’re a woman, you’re not combat arms,’ and the fact is, that is not the Army,” Smith said.  [Stars & Stripes]

If that is all they had to have her removed she was right to file the lawsuit.  However, I would not call this sexism and racism as she is claiming; it appears to be jealously in my opinion that someone who did not deploy received such a prestigious position and all the media attention she got with it.  The diploma mill degree complaint was probably thrown in to help remove her but if all NCO’s were removed from their positions for a diploma mill degree then there would be a lot of people losing their positions.  Even though she should have probably never have received the position in the first place for not having at least one deployment in 29 years and the diploma mill degrees; her leadership was wrong to remove her if that was all they had on her.

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  • JFisher
    8:01 am on May 5th, 2012 1

    Damn it! Never a barf bag around when I need it.

  • Matt
    10:19 am on May 5th, 2012 2

    I’ll have to go look at the history on this article, but in comments on it when it originally broke, wasn’t there a lot of people coming out that said she had bad history and it was right for her to be canned? If that ends up being true, wonder what the basis of that would have been?

  • Tom Langley
    12:23 pm on May 5th, 2012 3

    J. Fisher, comment #1. I can’t come up with anything to top your comment. If this was facebook I would click “like.”

  • Tom Langley
    12:25 pm on May 5th, 2012 4

    It looks like we have the future SMA in CSM King. I need a barf bag too.

  • Glans
    1:03 pm on May 5th, 2012 5

    One other thing to consider: was doing a good job as commandant?

  • Matt
    1:18 pm on May 5th, 2012 6

    I wonder if this will end up being a case of someone not dotting their i’s and crossing their t’s…

  • Dreamboat Annie
    1:33 pm on May 5th, 2012 7

    Maybe a freemason?

  • Kingkitty
    1:38 pm on May 5th, 2012 8

    Well something was up…you dont releive someone like that for simple reasons….I think more to follow.

  • Retired GI
    4:58 pm on May 5th, 2012 9

    Nothing else will follow. She filed sex & race charges against her “leaders”.

    She is 50% correct. She could only have gotten her job because of her sex and race. Only way to explain someone that has never deployed getting the job. Additionally, Army made a big deal out of her getting the job. Their Political Correctness is coming to bite them on their third point of contact. Idiots.

  • Vince
    6:07 pm on May 5th, 2012 10

    It used to bother me watching our respected institutions being undermined, but at this point, in the context of the entire culture of the West falling apart, it’s something of an interesting circus, devoid of any sort of dignity.

    Not unlike tabloid TV on a macro- level.

  • Charles Nelson
    7:43 pm on May 5th, 2012 11

    Once again she showed that she knows how to play the political game by making a public fuss during an election year. This was one fight the current administration would like to avoid. If only she put that much thought and effort into improving her education and deployment status and she might be worthy of her position.

  • Glans
    8:16 pm on May 5th, 2012 12

    Vince, Western Civilization began its death throes when you didn’t study Greek and Latin.

  • MTB Rider
    10:09 pm on May 5th, 2012 13

    So what is really being said here is that I should have avoided all those hours in class, and taking all those mid-watches to study, and instead bought a BS degree?

  • Chemlightbatteries
    10:11 pm on May 5th, 2012 14

    @Glans I think a little Cicero would be nice too…

  • Glans
    10:48 pm on May 5th, 2012 15

    Yes, Chemlightbatteries, Cicero was the best Latin writer. He threw in a little Greek too, just to show off.

  • Lemmy
    12:59 am on May 6th, 2012 16

    Glad that chapter of my life is closed. I will always remember the Army as a great institution and some of the people as great, but others I will always remember as impediments to humanity. It is unfortunate some can ruin the whole of the experience.

    I looking at this case, I have no idea what happened. Did King have something on the leaders she exposed to the higher ups? Usually when someone spends a long time “inspecting the dam” they know where all the cracks are. I am willing to bet she talked to the EO Rep “off line” and mentioned some homosexual or inappropriate activity of high placed Army leadership. Talking to the EO Rep “off line” always seemed to work for people.

    But for her to have an empty right shoulder is disturbing and the Army leadership who chose her to be the Commandant must be crazy.

  • Teadrinker
    1:59 am on May 6th, 2012 17

    “The diploma mill degree complaint was probably thrown in to help remove her but if all NCO’s were removed from their positions for a diploma mill degree then there would be a lot of people losing their positions.”

    Yup. Besides, she’s an NCO. My uncle was in charge of PT training at one of the NATO bases in Europe and then became the top-ranking NCO at the army base where I served…and I’m not even sure he had a high school degree.

  • Bill
    5:18 am on May 6th, 2012 18

    It’s a pretty sad state of affairs when the military start getting run, and played, just like the US Government agencies.

    “Qualifications be damned, we need a minority to fill this slot, so we look like we are doing our job”.

  • Bill
    5:21 am on May 6th, 2012 19

    Well I’ll be damned. I just got a wild hair and looked on Facebook. Yep, she has an account on there, as Teresa Kings (the extra ‘s’ is there).

  • Hamilton
    5:27 am on May 6th, 2012 20

    The Diploma mill complaint is pointless.

    The Army determines whether a school meets standards or not, not the applicant. I have a buddy who completed his master degree online with several of the same professors he had at USMA and the Army would not accept the institution despite the fact that it put a lot more into their requirements than what most other programs offer.

    If big Army put it on her record then it should be no skin off of her unless she did not meet the program requirements and lied about something.

    #17 PT is a requirement but being in charge of it typically means you are not capable of higher functions and at a NATO base it is pretty funny. Who did he instruct? Usually the only PT’ers at NATO bases are the US soldiers. This kinda of goes along with your “self propelled guns need roads!” comment from a previous post. Poser.

  • Retired GI
    6:23 am on May 6th, 2012 21

    #17 PT is a requirement but being in charge of it typically means you are not capable of higher functions and at a NATO base it is pretty funny. Who did he instruct? Usually the only PT’ers at NATO bases are the US soldiers. This kinda of goes along with your “self propelled guns need roads!” comment from a previous post. Poser.

    That was great. Too funny! Hamilton, you get an “atta boy”.
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    It’s a pretty sad state of affairs when the military start getting run, and played, just like the US Government agencies.

    “Qualifications be damned, we need a minority to fill this slot, so we look like we are doing our job”.

    So true Bill and very sad indeed.

  • Dustyr55
    6:25 am on May 6th, 2012 22

    I seem to remember reading something about her partying with junior enlisted personnel. Fraternization is a big no-no in today’s Army, not like it was 30 years ago.

  • Teadrinker
    5:42 pm on May 6th, 2012 23

    #20,

    Oh, stop trolling.

    He was in charge of training, particularly PT training since he was extremely athletic (I heard from people who trained with him in the early 80′s that he used to do back flips over fences to entertain the guys. He would have been over 40 then). He was in the Canadian Airborne Regiment for a while (so was another of my uncles), which was our special forces before it was disbanded in the mid ’90s…And no, not all NATO bases in Europe are/were American.

  • Teadrinker
    5:51 pm on May 6th, 2012 24

    …CFB Lahr, CFB Baden-Soelligen (and there were several RCAF stations throughout western Europe up until the late 60′s).

  • Teadrinker
    6:25 pm on May 6th, 2012 25

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  • Hamilton
    7:50 pm on May 6th, 2012 26

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  • Teadrinker
    8:30 pm on May 6th, 2012 27

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  • Hamilton
    8:50 pm on May 6th, 2012 28

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  • Jinro Dukkohbi
    9:19 pm on May 6th, 2012 29

    Can’t we take this flame war to a pit somewhere? The thread is getting off-target…

  • Chemlightbatteries
    1:29 am on May 7th, 2012 30

    @28 lol, you are wasting your breath.

  • Teadrinker
    3:26 am on May 7th, 2012 31

    #30,

    Yes, he should hold it. With some luck, he might go into a coma.

  • Teadrinker
    3:40 am on May 7th, 2012 32

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  • Glans
    4:02 am on May 7th, 2012 33

    kushibo has the demonstrated forensic skills to decide this question: is Teadrinker a poser? So, kusibo, have at him.

  • Teadrinker
    5:43 am on May 7th, 2012 34

    #33,

    I fart in your general direction.

  • kangaji
    8:28 am on May 7th, 2012 35

    Well since teadrinker is in korea its not that hard to invite him to a shot or 20 of soju.

  • JFisher
    3:20 pm on May 7th, 2012 36

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  • Skippy-san
    5:00 pm on May 7th, 2012 37

    If it had been a man-it would have been all over, no reinstatement. That she is a black woman simply makes it easier for the Army to blatantly put someone in a position who should probably not be there. Especially in today’s world-it should be a man who had been in Iraq or Afghanistan.

    Call this case for what it is-an attempt by the Army to appease the feminists and the diversity nuts.

    Lemmy’s comment @ 16 is right on the mark. To hell with what the feminsts want.

  • JoeC
    8:08 pm on May 7th, 2012 38

    #37

    “If it had been a man-it would have been all over, no reinstatement.”

    Why? Do you know something that hasn’t been published yet? Does anybody know the official reason she was removed in the first place?

  • Retired GI
    8:35 pm on May 7th, 2012 39

    #38 What he knows is the same thing that every Soldier since the late 90s has known. Both male and female.

    A female CO of mine once said words to the effect that, “I know the games you females play and I’m not going to stand for it under my command.” This was for a meeting with ONLY the females. (something only a female CO could have done) Yes, she did get EO complains from the females, but being a female herself, no big deal. Now if SHE had been a HE —-

  • Teadrinker
    11:03 pm on May 7th, 2012 40

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    11:30 pm on May 7th, 2012 42

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    11:45 pm on May 7th, 2012 43

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  • Avatar of GI KoreaGI Korea
    2:51 am on May 8th, 2012 44

    I just cleaned up the flame war on this thread. If you want to have a flame war please do it on the Open Thread. I also I just recently read the Army Times and they have article on the CSM King controversy. The Army Times says she was reinstated for 10 days until her replacement came in. She is appealing to be able to stay in position for 6 months. The article offered nothing on why her command removed her other than a loss of confidence.

    In the article she was claiming that because she was a woman without a deployment this why she was suspended. She is right to a degree. Because she is a woman she received all the media attention which caused people to take notice that she had not deployed in now 31 years. If she was a man there would be no media thus not as many people noticing that she received the position without deploying which also caused people to notice her diploma mill degrees.

    @22 – There has been Internet rumors about her having inappropriate relationships with subordinates. I have seen nothing to substantiate it and it is easy for people to make such accusation against people in leadership positions they don’t like. The only thing proven is that she has diploma mill degrees and never deployed. The Army likely knew about this when they put her in the position, I don’t see how someone can then go and pull her out of the position because of it.

  • JoeC
    5:07 am on May 8th, 2012 45

    #44

    “The Army Times says she was reinstated for 10 days until her replacement came in.”

    Good. If the Army replaces her next week it will return the spotlight even more brightly to this situation and force the Army to answer questions it seems to be going out of it’s way to avoid.

    Why was she removed?

    If the Army claims it’s because of “diploma mill” degrees or lack of deployments, then they have a new set of questions to answer.

    What’s wrong with their assignments criteria management?

    Was having a degree from accredited institutions and programs a criteria for the assignment to commandant of the school?

    Was having a past deployment a criteria?

    If either of those criteria were required, how did she get the assignment in the first place? Wasn’t there a records review and verification process?

    If they weren’t required, did they just arbitrarily decide they should be after the fact?

  • setnaffa
    7:42 am on May 8th, 2012 46

    Here’s hoping she gets deployed so she can train NCOs in a FOB…

  • Thomas
    3:00 am on July 30th, 2012 47

    Who really cares if she’s never deployed, she’s a 42a. If she had deployed, she would have never left the base and knows zero about the tactical army. This is the reason she should never been selected as commandant, all she knows how to do is paperwork.

 

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