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Avatar of GI KoreaBy on May 17th, 2012 at 8:03 am

Christina Cha Finishes 4th On Survivor: One World

Korean-American Christina Cha ended up going very far in the recently concluded Survivor: One World by making it to the final before being voted off and finishing 4th on the show.

Normally you would think that someone played a good game to finish 4th, but really Christina did not play a good game and was pretty much kept around by the other contestants because she was not a threat to them.  She was a non-factor for the most part in challenges and for whatever reason was not liked by the other contestants.  She seemed to come across as being a nice person on the show, but people did not trust her.  She also was the subject of a lot of bullying that some have claimed as being racist.  Kushibo has a pretty good discussion of this aspect of the show.

Anyway good luck to Christina in the future, but I don’t think she will ever be invited to compete on Survivor ever again because she was a boring contestant.

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  • tbonetylr
    7:34 am on May 17th, 2012 1

    There were at least two claims of racism/bigotry that were discussed on the last reunion show, if what Kushibo says is true then why didn’t the show point it(racism) out against Christina Cha?

  • kushibo
    9:39 am on May 17th, 2012 2

    tbonetylr, if you read through the link GI Korea provided, that’s covered: The show did point this out, but in the “extra” stuff that you see on the site, not in the regular broadcast.

    In fact, the way they bleeped a comment one contestant said about Jonas (the other Asian-American contestant) during the regular broadcast made it seem like profanity was used against Jonas Otsuji when in fact (it was revealed on the site) it was a racial comment.

    But I think you bring up a valid point: Why didn’t the cover this in the main broadcast? (And I am only now catching up with the last five episodes since this grueling semester has just ended, so for all I know they did cover it.)

    Survivor got a lot of flak a few years ago when their tribes were four race-based tribes. They’ve also gotten a lot of criticism for not having good numerical representation of minorities on the show. Maybe they thought two or three contestants taking race-based potshots and strategy decisions against Jonas and Christina would renew that.

    Until I finish all the episodes, I may duck out of this conversation. I already knew from the news media Christina didn’t win (and I knew from the flood of Internet traffic I got in the middle of each week that she was still in until the end), but I’ve avoided details not in the headlines themselves, and I’d like to keep it that way. ;-)

    Spoiler alerts might be nice. :lol:

  • kushibo
    9:49 am on May 17th, 2012 3

    tbonertylr, because of some weird thing with the cbs.com site not having it up on their site, I didn’t get to see the last reunion show that you mentioned. In a nutshell, what were was the nature of the two claims of racism or bigotry that were discussed at that time?

  • Tom
    11:47 am on May 17th, 2012 4

    This proves Tbonetyler is a white guy.

  • raketbaler
    12:14 pm on May 17th, 2012 5

    Best of Christina.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5dzzvx38RE&feature=relmfu

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K77_VNlPyJg

  • tbonetylr
    2:28 pm on May 17th, 2012 6

    if you read through the link GI Korea provided…,
    You mean your link? You take too long getting to the point, I quit reading. But since you say “The show did point this out, but in the “extra” stuff that you see on the site, not in the regular broadcast.”
    Then why don’t you provide a link or quote as to what was said?

    The gay guy referred to the black guy in a way comparing him to the black housekeeper they employ at their home. The gay guy also treated people in a mean way, the way he/himself don’t like to be treated. The way he treated Christina Cha in he remark as to something like “You can jump in the fire if you don’t like it.”
    The special ed teacher was also mean to Cha by referring to her in a similar way as her own students.

    People are mean on the show and they were toward Cha, but you’ve not yet shown anything racist toward Cha.

  • kushibo
    3:51 pm on May 17th, 2012 7

    tbonetylr wrote:

    You mean your link? You take too long getting to the point, I quit reading. But since you say “The show did point this out, but in the “extra” stuff that you see on the site, not in the regular broadcast.”

    Then why don’t you provide a link or quote as to what was said?

    Your inability to maintain your attention span is not my problem. In the second main new paragraph, there is a link to Jeff Probst’s own Twitter account where he highlights this:

    #survivor big words from tarzan and there’s the quote of the day – ‘cant look at that asian face anymore.”

    And if you don’t like reading all those words, the second picture on the post is “the gay guy” (Colton) mocking Christina by doing “chink eye” with Alicia in hysterics.


    People are mean on the show and they were toward Cha, but you’ve not yet shown anything racist toward Cha.

    Wrong, tbonerylr. I did, but by your own admission you didn’t bother to read or look.

  • kushibo
    3:52 pm on May 17th, 2012 8

    Well, I mucked up the tags while trying to post the “chink eye” picture itself in my comment.

  • tbonetylr
    4:35 pm on May 17th, 2012 9

    Kushibo,
    “Seriously, doing “chink eye” in 2012? How emotionally stunted in fourth grade can you be?”

    It’s a game for 1 million dollars and the “survivor” players are trying to survive. I’m sure you’d be the best player ever if you were on the show aye, so exciting that they’d beg you to return. Some people will do and say anything to simply get attention or air time on the TV tube, not excusing what anyone did or said but you shouldn’t be surprised.

    Christina Cha almost won immunity on the last challenge, I was pulling for her. She had a chance if she had only given it a little more. I can only conclude that she either didn’t have it in her – not competitive, couldn’t push it or give it the extra bit that it sometimes takes to win games or physical competitions.

  • kushibo
    4:38 pm on May 17th, 2012 10

    tbonetylr, apologies if I sounded too harsh.

  • tbonetylr
    4:42 pm on May 17th, 2012 11

    She was sooooooooooooooooooooo close. :cry:

  • kushibo
    5:00 pm on May 17th, 2012 12

    Something’s amiss with the comments here. tbonerylr’s (#9) appeared three minutes before mine, but it wasn’t there even fifteen seconds before I posted mine (#10).

    tbonetylr, I’m not sure what your point is. It seems you’re now acknowledging there was “racism against Christina” and that, while it’s not excusable, it’s part of those crazy antics one should expect from the show. (For the record, I suggested there may have been racism against both Asian players, to include Jonas Otsuji; the palpable but apparently unwarranted open animosity toward Christina Cha was more apparent than against Jonas Otsuji, as far as we the viewers could see.)

    Just like I did in comment #2, I will express agreement with you that, as far as we could tell, Christina sometimes seemed like she “didn’t have it in her.” She was low-key, and only seemed to be noticeable when she was under attack. I give her huge credit for surviving as long as she did while in so many people’s crosshairs, even turning Colton’s sympathies toward her when he was in so much pain (perhaps influencing him to not give his ally Alicia the immunity idol).

    The strategy of a lot of players, including some of the winners, was to play the wallflower or the fly on the wall as long as they could, and it seemed Christina did that after surviving early onslaught. I’m only up to episode 10, though, so I might change my opinion of her. I only started rooting for her after a couple episodes (my first post on her kinda harshed on her).

    It’s a game for 1 million dollars and the “survivor” players are trying to survive. I’m sure you’d be the best player ever if you were on the show aye, so exciting that they’d beg you to return.

    I don’t know what kind of player I’d be. I’d use my thick Coke bottle glasses to start fires (they’re hipster glasses, but I prefer the term “power nerd”), my wiry frame to lug stuff around, and my charm and wit to coax people into an alliance which I’d run from behind the scenes.

    I’m good at puzzles but, being a lefty forcibly turned righty, I’m clumsy. I’m not super tall, so I don’t look like a threat of some kind, even though my strong runner’s heart would likely give me stamina for certain tasks and challenges.

    My primary motivation for being on Survivor would be to lose my the last bit of pudge that my 5k-per-day running habit won’t seem to shed.

    If you and I both on Survivor at the same time, I’d quickly reach out to you so that we could form the ROK Drop alliance and go to the final three. Maybe Glans or GI Korea would join us.

  • tbonetylr
    5:24 pm on May 17th, 2012 13

    You sound obsessed, but why don’t you link us to your 3 minute survivor wannabe video? I think you’d lack in the “adventurous” category which would disqualify you.
    apply now using the link below
    http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor_application/

    According to the Casting Call Eligibility Rules, contestants must be 21 years old or older, U.S. citizens, and in excellent physical and mental health. In addition, a good survivor is:
    Strong-willed
    Outgoing
    Adventurous
    Physically and mentally adept
    Adaptable to new environments
    Having an interesting lifestyle, background, or personality doesn’t hurt either, apparently.
    If you think you qualify, you’ll have to submit a three-minute videotape of yourself saying who are you and why you would make the ultimate survivor. (This video becomes the property of CBS, so even if you’re not chosen to be on the show, your audition tape could still get on air — thus giving you 15 minutes of fame without having to eat bugs!) You’ll also need to send a photocopy of your U.S. passport, one passport-sized photo, and a completed application form.
    Sources: http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor_application/rules.shtml

  • Ole Tanker
    5:25 pm on May 17th, 2012 14

    Christina Cha showed a lot of class. I never saw anyone mistreated like that.

    Gay Boy was the meanest little B1@tch on the planet.

    Alicia, should never be in the presence of a special needs child ever EVER AGAIN!!

    Plain and simple, a person like Christina Cha is way too polite for a pig wrestling match like survivor.

    I thought she won, especially in the area of character.

  • kushibo
    5:37 pm on May 17th, 2012 15

    Ole Tanker, she wasn’t always polite. :lol:

    I agree that Alicia shouldn’t be in the presence of special needs children. Several people on the program over the years who were teachers really came across folks you wouldn’t want teaching kids. NaOnka comes to mind.

    tbonetylr, I don’t know if I quite reach the level of “obsessed,” but I do enjoy the show. It’s the only reality show I actually watched, and I’ve been viewing almost every season since AFKN first aired the first season with a six-month delay. I suppose if I truly were “obsessed,” there wouldn’t have been two whole seasons I neglected to watch.

    Though it wasn’t Survivor, I have in fact made a video and applied for one of the better-quality shows that puts you out in the middle of a bunch of stuff. Mine was liked enough, apparently, that I was one of about a hundred “call backs,” though I ultimately didn’t get it. The people who were there with me included a lot of people who regularly applied to be on Survivor and other reality shows, and the process they described left a bad taste in my mouth, though I might consider it fun to try after I get a few real-world things settled.

  • Avatar of GI KoreaGI Korea
    5:57 pm on May 17th, 2012 16

    @14 – I have to agree that Christina was treated the worst of any contestant I can remember. Strangely the show never really showed why people disliked her so much. In some of the episodes she did come across at gossipy and wish-washy, but not enough to cause the extreme dislike people had for. Overall I thought she came across like a very nice person on the show.

    As far as the way she played the game I can’t really say I was impressed. There has been plenty of people who hanged around for a long time on Survivor simply because there were not a threat to an established alliance. The way she played may have gotten her far in the show but she never had a chance to win it even if she made the final 3 because there is no way she would get enough votes.

    Like I said in the posting I don’t think she will be asked to come back on the show because she was a boring player while Colton probably will probably will be asked to come back simply because he made for good TV by being such a jerk. A person I hope gets another chance is Jonas. I thought he was a pretty good player that the women alliance made sure to target and get rid of earlier than he should have been voted out on the show.

    As far as Alicia I don’t think she should be anywhere near special needs students either. It is unbelievable how some of these people act on the show knowing full well that their actions are going to be shown to everyone watching including their employers.

  • Ole Tanker
    6:26 pm on May 17th, 2012 17

    First of all, Jonas got screwed, he was a nice guy. Kinda like Christina. Jonas should be invited back to survivor.

    But, Christina was being openly attacked the whole show. BIG target on her back.

    She reacted like I would, pull back make a smaller target.

    Seek a “turret defilade” make them come and get you.

    I must admit Christina SUCKED at challenges, I expected a lot more.

    Well, in the interest of fairness, I think Jonas, Christina and Gay Boy..oh I mean Colsten should all come back on the same team.

    On a side bar, I think gay Boy should join the Army, then he and his spouse could get full benefits.

    ,aybe go to basic under CSM King. :cool: :cool:

  • Teadrinker
    6:50 pm on May 17th, 2012 18

    You guys still watch Survivor? It’s like reliving high school. No thank you.

  • Glans
    8:13 pm on May 17th, 2012 19

    kushibo, you wear reading glasses? That’s unusual in a young man. If you’re near-sighted, which is much more common, your glasses won’t start fires. Either way, I like you, and I have no racial animosity toward you whatsoever.

  • John from Daejeon
    8:19 pm on May 17th, 2012 20

    The next installment of Survivor will feature 3 former cast members who left the show due to medical emergencies, so it looks like Colton will be back.

    And as nice as Jonas and Christina seemed, they didn’t exactly make for riveting television, which, unfortunately, Colton did.

  • someotherguy
    9:28 pm on May 17th, 2012 21

    Well she was good eye candy, might be invited back on the merits of that alone haha.

    Honestly most of that show is decided mid season, its about entertainment value and the “winner” is whomever can keep people watching.

  • kushibo
    10:10 pm on May 17th, 2012 22

    Glans wrote:

    kushibo, you wear reading glasses? That’s unusual in a young man. If you’re near-sighted, which is much more common, your glasses won’t start fires.

    I was exaggerating about the Coke bottle glasses.

    I’ve been nearsighted since my early teens but my glasses are actually somewhat thin (they’re not that heavy even if they’re made from glass instead of plastic). When I read, I take off my glasses because I read perfectly without them.

    someotherguy wrote:

    Honestly most of that show is decided mid season, its about entertainment value and the “winner” is whomever can keep people watching.

    I think the actual winner is determined before the episodes are aired, but I do believe they get creative with the editing, highlighting certain scenes and downplaying others. The Survivor people are pretty good at working with what they’ve got and making a good broadcast out of whatever plays out in front of them.

  • Glans
    10:30 pm on May 17th, 2012 23

    Then your glasses spread light out, they don’t bring it together to a point, kushibo. Go ahead, just try to light a fire with them. Now try it with a magnifying glass. Even if you don’t light a fire, a magnifying glass and the sun can easily burn your finger, but your myopia-correcting glasses never will. You can ask my technical adviser someotherguy to explain it. Where is ChickenHead when I need him?

  • Liliann
    5:58 am on May 20th, 2012 24

    Alicia and the guy from Lousiana were horrible. They showed the ugly part of America.
    I can’t believe Alicia works with children with disabilities. She show not compassion when she was bullying Christina. Y el maricon de Lousiana never truly apologized for all the horrible things he said about poor people, blacks, ect . He said that he is a rich brad… I said he is a low class looser. Thank you

  • Liliann
    6:08 am on May 20th, 2012 25

    I made a mistake… In my comments I was talking about Coltan and he is from
    Monroeville, Ala. Not from Louisiana.
    The show shouldn’t never showed all the horrible things that
    Colton said. It was bad.

  • USFKisWasteofTaxDollars
    12:46 am on May 21st, 2012 26

    Gawd. Look at the size of those mams on a K-Gurl. Suspect she grew up in the USA drinking a bunch of bovine milk.

  • Glans
    3:29 am on May 21st, 2012 27

    USFKisWasteofTaxDollars, maybe she drank silicone.

  • FLASH GORDAN
    9:36 pm on May 21st, 2012 28

    Those are nice….are they whole, skimmed, or half & half??? :twisted:

  • Leon LaPorte
    9:45 pm on May 21st, 2012 29

    Watched about 15 minutes of Survivor, once. Can’t turn the channel fast enough if it appears. The networks love the reality shows; super cheap to produce.

 

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