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Avatar of GI KoreaBy on July 30th, 2012 at 5:25 pm

GI Flashbacks: The Tragedy at No Gun Ri

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This week marks 62 years since the tragedy at a railroad bridge outside the village of No Gun Ri occurred during the Korean War:

This tragedy has been the subject of many media reports with much of the claims being inaccurate in regards to US troops cold bloodedly murdering 400 Korean civilians.  Here are some of the facts of what many have called a “massacre” that most people probably have not heard of outside of regular readers of this site:

  • Out of the original 12 American witnesses quoted in the Pulitzer Prize winning Associated Press article that the only 4 GI’s that fully confirmed the AP’s account of what happened were later proven to not be there, 4 more of the veterans were intentionally misquoted by the AP, 1 veteran’s testimony is inconsistent and suspect, and the other 3 said no massacre occurred at No Gun Ri.
  • The forensic evidence does not support the claims of a massacre of 400 people.  What the forensic evidence does support is the presence of enemy weapons at the bridge.
  • The aerial imagery evidence does not support the claims of a massacre of 400 people.
  • The historical documents do not even support the claims of a massacre of 400 people at No Gun Ri.
  • Here is probably the most telling fact, that despite intensive searches of the No Gun Ri area not one bone was ever found despite supposedly 400 people being killed there.  To further put this into perspective other areas where far less people were killed during the Korean War extensive skeletal remains were found, but not a No Gun Ri.

There are plenty of more facts that totally debunk the established mythology about what happened at No Gun Ri, but determining the “truth” of what happened at No Gun Ri no longer matters as many so called researchers are more interested in rewriting the history of the Korean War to slime US veterans who traveled to defend the ROK from communist aggression 62 years ago due their own partisan political interest today.  The Korean conflict has long been known as the “Forgotten War”, but in reality it has in recent years become the “Rewritten War” which is one of the continuing tragedies of the Korean conflict.

Below is an archive of articles I have written about No Gun Ri that I highly recommend that everyone who hasn’t read them to do so:

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  • Matt
    6:16 pm on July 30th, 2012 1

    Just curious since I’m not in Korea right now…is anyone else, esp. on the Korean side, providing No Gun Ri coverage this week? If not, maybe it’s best to let sleeping dogs lie…no need to shoot a dead horse after all.

  • Tom
    6:31 pm on July 30th, 2012 2

    Gee..even the GI’s think this thing that comes up for like the 1000th time here, is beating on the dead horse. :roll:

  • Bob
    8:22 pm on July 30th, 2012 3

    Then it simply didn’t happen, my grandparents once found a dead Indian body on their farm. Research turns out that their was a battle there many hundreds of years ago between two tribes and this body (which was dated to that time period) must have been from that battle. BTW that was hundreds of years.

    If we actually killed 400 or 700 Koreans on that bridge we’d of found something, I don’t think we’d be covering it up. I mean any solider involved would be at least in their 80s if they are still alive.

  • Teadrinker
    10:05 pm on July 30th, 2012 4

    You have to rely on forensic evidence. On thing, though…Even if there are rounds and casings from UN forces weapons on site, it’s not a clear indication of whom held the weapons. Chinese soldiers fought with captured gear. For example, I’ve found Dutch and American relics in and around a slit trench located where it was known that a Chinese or North Korean sniper was taking shots at South Korean civilians.

  • Teadrinker
    10:31 pm on July 30th, 2012 5

    Also, there is no telling when the evidence gathered was left there. But, based on what I was told by an archeologist who visited the site, something definitely did occur there. Question is, what happened?

    In any case, Korean civilians were killed by direct fire during the war. For example, I have a written account in my bookshelf written by a French soldier who later became a very well known reporter and author of how he and his fellow platoon members began shooting at a couple of American soldiers who opened fire on civilians who were trying to escape their house (the father/grandfather was hit and most probably died). Not the 400 victims claimed at Nogun-ri, but a clear indication that some soldiers had little or no concern for Korean civilians.

  • Tom
    5:07 am on July 31st, 2012 6

    Watch the vitrol to come at comment #4. We all know Americans can never do that. They are genetically programmed to be the good guys. They would never do a such a thing. That’s why we have to beat the dead horse for the thousandth time to remind everyone that. :roll:

  • gimpi
    5:34 am on July 31st, 2012 7

    Kind of reminds of how you Koreans claim that there is no racsim in Korea eh Tom?

    Koreans like to wave the, “our morals are better than everyone else’s” and deflect the blame for things like Virginia Tech. prostitution, STD’s, etc… on other cultures. A Korean would never do a thing like that! The rest of the world knows the truth though, Koreans aren’t fooling anyone.

    There was no massacre, this is just something Koreans like to use to hate America.

    Strange how the Vietnamese don’t do, or say the same things about Koreans, maybe because they aren’t like a bunch of middle school brats?

  • Tom
    6:29 am on July 31st, 2012 8

    Middle school brats, that’s a perfect description of you, the frat party loving white man. The world isn’t fooled by your country’s actions. Look at Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, wherver your army went, atrocities after atrocities followed. Don’t deny this, you frikn liars.

  • Teadrinker
    10:01 am on July 31st, 2012 9

    #6
    South Korans also had blood on their hands.

  • Tom
    10:25 am on July 31st, 2012 10

    Yes Teadrinker, but do you see South Koreans denying, raging, and claiming it’s all a lie? :lol:

  • Vince
    2:18 pm on July 31st, 2012 11

    Wherever our Army went, we generally kicked the shit out of the enemy. There were some notable defeats.

    If people were killed at this place, you can bet it had a lot to do with panic and the general “me first” attitude one sees in dealing with this group. That the original story quickly unraveled and was shown to be a lie is no surprise.

    Had this happened in modern days, the casualties would have never gotten off their iPhones long enough to even grasp what was happening.

    Sorry? I wouldn’t shed a tear. They would do things like this to each other and did more than once, and then blame it on someone else.

    It’s what they do.

  • Bob
    6:19 pm on July 31st, 2012 12

    Tom, the America army has done, and will do terrible things. If I was told a group of America soldiers killed 400 civilians in the Korean war at this bridge and we found bodies/casings/artifacts etc then you know what I’d believe it.

    But if you tell me American soldiers killed 400 Koreans and can’t provide any proof then I’m going say it never happened.

  • Teadrinkerr
    8:07 am on August 1st, 2012 13

    #10,

    No, I see them…well…doing nothing. There’s more than one way to express denial.

  • John
    9:25 pm on September 19th, 2012 14

    http://www.pulitzer.org/works/2000-Investigative-Reporting

    Actually it did happen and a pulitzer prize awarded. Do your own research

  • MTB Rider
    11:02 pm on September 19th, 2012 15

    @14

    OK, I will…

    http://www.salon.com/2002/06/03/nogunri_2/

  • Avatar of GI KoreaGI Korea
    4:27 am on September 20th, 2012 16

    @14 – I did my own research and that is what the series of postings I have did on the topic are about. The AP writers won a Pulitzer on a story based on information from US veteran witnesses which were either not there or misquoted. Why don’t you click on the various links I left and leave a comment to dispute what I wrote?

  • Ronnie Talgart
    8:29 pm on October 2nd, 2012 17

    Salon? What a joke… you can’t be serious. Someone is acting like this was all made up. The Pulitzer Prize is not awarded to journalists who base their story on hearsay. For years the military tried to cover the story up. Those who repeat the lies are working for the propaganda machine and disrespecting the dead. What is clear: For years victims and their families tried to get the story out but met the military’s dismissive arrogance. They were laughed at and that is a fact. Yes, there are Koreans who will back the US up on their dishonesty because they are getting cookies for supporting the occupation of their country.
    From amazon, In the fall of 1999, a team of Associated Press investigative reporters broke the news that U.S. troops had massacred a large group of South Korean civilians early in the Korean War. On the eve of that pivotal war’s 50th anniversary, their reports brought to light a story that had been surpressed for decades, confirming allegations the U.S. military had sought to dismiss. It made headlines around the world.

    In The Bridge at No Gun Ri, the team tells the larger, human story behind the incident through the eyes of the people who survived it. The American side, the green recruits of the “good time” U.S. army in Japan, was made up of teenagers who viewed unarmed farmers as enemies, and of generals who had never led men into battle. On the Korean side were peasant families forced to flee their ancestral village caught between the invading North Koreans and the U.S. Army. The narrative examines victims both Korean and American; the ordinary lives and high-level decisions that led to the fatal encounter; the terror of the three-day slaughter; and the memories and ghosts that forever haunted the survivors.

    Based on extensive archival research and more than 500 interviews with U.S. veterans and Korean survivors, The Bridge at No Gun Ri is an extraordinary account of the tragic events of July 1950 that the world should never forget.

 

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