This is a nice consolation victory for Samsung after losing in a US courtroom last week:
A Japanese court on Friday rejected patent claims made by Apple against Samsung, a victory for the company after its crushing defeat in the United States last week and a reminder of the global scope of the patent war between the two technology giants.
While Apple prevailed over Samsung in the United States, winning an award of $1 billion in damages from a federal jury, the two companies remain neck-and-neck in legal disputes in almost a dozen countries. A judge in South Korea, where Samsung is based, for example, handed down a split decision in a patent case shortly before the jury verdict in the American case.
“Internationally, it’s been a mixed picture” for Apple, said James Bessen, an economist and lecturer at the Boston University School of Law. “Part of that is because most other countries don’t have the same attitude toward software patenting that the U.S. has.”
For both companies, Japan makes up a far smaller proportion of sales than the all-important American market. But the Tokyo ruling suggests that despite Apple’s victory last week, the jostling between the two companies for the upper hand in the fast-growing smartphone and tablet businesses is just beginning. [New York Times]
It makes me wonder if a victory like this in a foreign courtroom will help Samsung in any way with their appeal of the court decision back in the US?
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4:36 pm on September 1st, 2012 1
“It makes me wonder if a victory like this in a foreign courtroom will help Samsung in any way with their appeal of the court decision back in the US?”
I’m not thinking so. Foreign courts / societies don’t necessarily respect our laws. I’m sure they’re thinking that our patent laws are stupid and don’t recognize them. For instance, how can a company patent the shape of a phone? Well, Apple did and if you want to use the rectangle glass front touch screen phone design, you have to pay Apple to use that design. It was offered to Samsung to license to use, and they declined and used it anyway. Hence, the lawsuits. As our patent laws are written, they violated our patent laws. And if they want to compete in OUR market, they will abide by our laws.
5:03 pm on September 1st, 2012 2
Well, according to Groklaw, they say there is a good chance due to the jurors screwing up.
http://www.groklaw.net/
11:18 pm on September 1st, 2012 3
Dave, which patents? The rectangle glass is just an excuse made by Apple.
11:47 pm on September 1st, 2012 4
Japan is bitter at Apple for shafting Japanese electronic companies.
12:39 am on September 2nd, 2012 5
#4,
If any of those two companies is giving the shaft to Japanese electronics companies, it’s Samsung. Samsung competes with Japanese companies, and wins, in so many more markets than Apple does. Don’t forget, Apple is only in the business of making a few devices and taking a commission from the sale of MP3 and applications for its devices. Samsung is a conglomerate whose subsidiaries produce everything from nanoparticles to skyscrapers.
4:45 am on September 2nd, 2012 6
That was almost a worthless article. It doesn’t mention that Japanese courts only hear one patent complaint at a time, there are a handful of others between both companies. That was only the first case so you’ll be hearing more from the Japanese court. If it was all over Samsung would see that Korea deserted Dokdo.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443618604577622724089713702.html
“In another local twist, Japanese courts also tend to try patent infringement cases separately based on individual patents instead of grouping them together, even when they involve the same parties, according to lawyers. Another Apple infringement claim against Samsung is on the docket for the Tokyo District Court in September.”
5:00 am on September 2nd, 2012 7
# 1 Dave,
No, Koreans don’t think the U.S. laws are “stupid,” most think the American jurors are stupid and nationalistic.
5:31 pm on September 2nd, 2012 8
Frankly I think Samsung should pull the plug on those Apple retards. Without crucial parts from Samsung, Apple can’t make those iPhone’s, as this link says.
http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/keep-rival-samsung-sweet-apple-201619758.html
9:18 am on September 3rd, 2012 9
Samsung has partnerships with other firms in other industries in other countries. I don’t think Samsung has as much to lose as Apple.
Personally, I think Samsung products are good right now, but I wouldn’t want to see either Apple or Samsung dominating or even monopolizing any technology or telecommunications industry.
Back in the day, I remember Hyundai made cellphones (i.e. Gulliver). Today, I only see Hyundai make what they make best, but Samsung does have a thing going to Renault as did Daewoo-GM and KIA-Ford.
6:37 pm on September 3rd, 2012 10
#1,
Obvious troll is obvious.
At no point in time did Apple ever “offer” to license a single patent of theirs, their not in the licensing business their in the product business. Licensing their “patents” would allow competition, Apple doesn’t like competition.
6:23 am on November 8th, 2012 11
Excellent piece of text. Keep up the good work