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Avatar of GI KoreaBy on November 28th, 2012 at 3:46 am

Christian Group Denied Permission To Establish DMZ Christmas Tree

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No Christmas tree will be lit up this year on the DMZ:

In the spirit of love and peace, the Demilitarized Zone will not be lit up like a Christmas tree this holiday season as it has in years past.

The Military Evangelical Association of Korea had sought approval from the South Korea Ministry of National Defense to light three giant towers in the shape of Christmas trees at different points about two miles south of the North Korean border.

However, the request has been withdrawn in the wake of protests from South Koreans who live near the DMZ, who said they were afraid the displays might prompt the North to fire in the direction of the lights, especially given the added incentive it might have to cause trouble in advance of the South’s Dec. 19 presidential election.  [Stars & Stripes]

You can read the rest at the link, but I think this proves that North Korean terrorism is effective since the people living on the DMZ are afraid of getting shelled or shot at like the people on Yeonpyeong Island.  Regardless for some reason North Korea has yet to be added to the State Department’s terrorism list.

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  • Thomas Gourley
    8:26 am on November 28th, 2012 1

    Sad that South Koreans have to live in that fear. Give them an inch and they will take more and more. However, maybe you should move further south and let north korea have your homes after all we would not want to offend them in the spirit of love and peace love and peace should be mutual and respect from both sides.

  • Teadrinker
    3:34 pm on November 28th, 2012 2

    The symbolism of it would be lost on North Korean soldiers. It’s a means to proselytize South Korea soldiers and gain publicity for themselves.

  • Flyingsword
    4:35 pm on November 28th, 2012 3

    So, I guess nK terrorism works.

    That is the message the south is sending. Very sad

  • Leon LaPorte
    4:44 pm on November 28th, 2012 4

    The War on Christmas continues!

    Perhaps those who live in the area have noted that prayers fail to deflect bullets and artillery rounds. Perhaps, and I know this is grasping, these folks aren’t even (shudder) Christian! OMG! *GASP!*

  • MTB Rider
    6:13 pm on November 28th, 2012 5

    One thing I like about Korea is that the two major religions (Christianity and Buddhism) seem to get along most of the time.

    I used to watch Chop-Socky Theater as a kid. If there really were a war on Christianity here in Korea, those Buddhist Monks would shoulder-flip them into next week! :shock:

    Still, it could be worse. It could be Evangelical Atheists preaching their beliefs with the fervor of a Crusader. ;-)

  • Teadrinker
    10:05 pm on November 28th, 2012 6

    “One thing I like about Korea is that the two major religions (Christianity and Buddhism) seem to get along most of the time.”

    That’s only because Buddhists turn the other cheek.

  • Leon LaPorte
    11:04 pm on November 28th, 2012 7

    To the casual observer Korea is fairly good example of a secular society for the most part. Religion doesn’t seem to have much play in the political, and policy, arena while everyone is allowed to privately worship (or not) as they choose. Something else the US could learn from our Korean friends.

    Some posters lament that it is “sad” that the X-mas trees aren’t to be erected. Is it because they are not allowed to establish this religious display or because it is a specifically Christian display that will not be allowed? Would they equally lament the prohibition of the erection of a giant lighted menorah or perhaps a huge golden Buddha?

    Another point of note would be a subtle distinction. If those who wanted to erect these symbols were people who actually live in those areas, it might be another matter.

  • MTB Rider
    2:13 am on November 29th, 2012 8

    Actually, Leon, nobody had said anything as of yet. The closest was flyingsword, and it was more of a lament that the traditional provocation was being eshewed this year.

    Not sure where you lived back State-side, but none of the places I lived were all that “Devout” until AFTER the snarkers started in with their commentaries. Those are the Evangelical Atheists I was talking about.

    Just as Athiests seem deeply offended to hear the annual cheerful “Merry Christmas, Everyone,” I’m deeply offended by the Athiests’ ritual snarky comments. (Not really, but I think you see what I mean.)

    Happy Holidays

  • Teadrinker
    2:20 am on November 29th, 2012 9


    I read that 60% of South Koreans have no religious affiliation, not that you’d know it by the number of tacky neon crucifixes glowing at night.

  • Eddie Cantor
    3:05 pm on November 29th, 2012 10

    What harm would that little tree cause to anyone? The excuse that it causes harm to others just doesn’t carry any water. It is a national holiday, after all. Plenty of Christmas trees are used in store ads and on TV by those who are not using it in any religious manner.

  • Flyingsword
    3:55 pm on November 29th, 2012 11

    It is not about the Christmas tree, it is about bowing to the will of nK. South Koreans should put up a Christmas tree, an illuminated golden Budha and anything else they want…who cares if it pisses off the norks….

  • Leon LaPorte
    4:45 pm on November 29th, 2012 12

    10 & 11 You are right. If THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE want to put up a tree or whatever they should be allowed to. This isn’t about that.

    Merry Christmas.

  • Teadrinker
    5:34 pm on November 29th, 2012 13


    You seriously believe North Koreans care? As I already said, the message would be wasted on its soldiers and this has everything to do with proselytizing South Korean soldiers and gaining publicity for this religious group. That’s most probably why it was turned down.

  • Leon LaPorte
    6:07 pm on November 29th, 2012 14

    I know we all dig it when strangers from out of town come to our homes and erect giant lighted billboards.

  • Leon LaPorte
    6:24 pm on November 29th, 2012 15

    I must also point out that only 29% of Koreans are Christian so that “little tree” doesn’t represent anything to the majority of Koreans. Oh and it’s not a “little tree.” It’s three giant towers in the shape of Christmas trees at different points. I believe I’ve seen them in the past and there wasn’t anything very Christ-like about these monstrosities.

    The modern Christmas tree tradition is believed to have begun in Germany in the 18th century. I’m sure the fact that the Christmas tree itself is a pagan instrument is lost on some of you but that’s a topic for another thread at another time.

    Happy Dies Natalis Solis Invicti


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