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Avatar of GI KoreaBy on December 14th, 2012 at 3:33 am

GI Flashbacks: The 2002 Subway Kidnapping

During the period of 2000-2004 USFK servicemembers were subject to a number of anti-American incidents especially after the 2002 Armored Vehicle Accident where an environment was created that encouraged altercations with US military members.  Arguably the worst anti-American incident during this time period was the 2002 Subway Kidnapping.  In September  2002 three USFK servicemembers, Private John Murphy, Private Eric Owens, and Private Shane Tucker were traveling back to Camp Red Cloud in Uijongbu from Seoul on the subway system that runs between the two cities.

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The three soldiers were sitting in a subway car when approached by a group of South Koreans led by the the 65 year old Suh Kyung-won.  Suh was a long time anti-US activist and former member of parliament in South Korea that had been convicted in 1989 for spying for North Korea.  Suh’s group was handing out flyers critical of the US military and the armored vehicle accident that happened 3 months prior.  They were handing out these flyers to people on the subway as their group traveled to a major anti-US rally at Kyunghee University.

Suh approached the three soldiers and tried to give them a leaflet.  One of the soldiers Private Murphy refused the leaflet and Suh slapped him in the face and was accosted by the other members of the group.  Suh said he slapped in the face because Murphy cursed at him.  Suh however does not speak English so how he would know for sure that Murphy cussed at him or not is open to debate.  Murphy said he responded to the assault by Suh and other group members by swinging wildly to defend himself which included punching Suh in the face.  The three soldiers moved to a different subway car and then got off the subway to wait for another train to get away from Suh’s group.  However, the stop they got off on was the one where the anti-US protest was being held.  The three soldiers now found themselves being ”pulled, punched, kicked and spat upon by demonstrators” as they tried to get away from them.  As the soldiers were being beaten and pulled towards the Kyunghee University stadium by the growing mob the Korean riot police who had been stationed near the university for an unrelated event were able to intervene and rescue two of the soldiers from the mob.

The video opens with a one-minute statement by Suh recounting the evening’s events. The next 100 seconds show a chaotic street scene, with squadrons of riot-geared police and protesters running and cursing. Police are running while escorting Owens and Tucker from the mob.

An alarmed Owens and Tucker are seen running to police behind barricades at the hospital entrance.

“We have three friends. We have three,” shouts one of the soldiers.

“One more,” says the other. “Yellow. Yellow shirt. Yellow,” he said, tugging on his own shirt in an apparent reference to Murphy, who wore a school-bus-yellow shirt that day.

The video cuts to a vivid scene between South Korean protesters and riot police. One policeman bashes a protester with his shield, wounding the protester’s face. Other protesters throw items at police and kick them.

“How come you guys hit us to protect Americans?” the protesters scream.  [Stars & Stripes]

Unfortunately the anti-US Voice of People website that published video of the incidnet has since removed the video from their website, but fortunately the Stars & Stripes published what was said.  I find it interesting how the xenophobia of the protesters by thinking the police would just give up the soldiers who are being beaten simply because of their nationality.  Their friend Private Murphy remained detained by the mob and brought to the stadium to witness the anti-US rally.  There according to the US military he  ”was photographed, videotaped and allegedly forced to make a public statement about the incident on the train.”  The US military also criticized the Korean police for allegedly letting the demonstrators take Murphy with them.

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Private John Murphy during his detainment at a anti-US rally at Kyunghee University.

At the rally one of the key statements that Murphy was forced to say was that the US military should give up legal jurisdiction of the two soldiers involved in the 2002 Armored Vehicle Incident back to Korean authorities.  For those that do not know the US-ROK Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) allows the US military to keep legal jurisdiction over servicemembers involved in incidents while on duty.  Since the armored vehicle accident happened while on duty the US military kept jurisdiction over the case.  If the accident had happened off duty while driving a civilian car the soldiers would have been tried in a South Korean court.  The military keep jurisdiction for on duty incidents is a central tenant of all US SOFAs and is one that is included in SOFAs that the Korean military has signed with other countries that ROK Army troops are deployed in.  The 2002 Armored Vehicle Accident is a perfect example of why a SOFA is needed in order to prevent politically motivated mob justice against US servicemembers serving in a foreign country.  The kidnappers of Murphy would later go on to claim that they kidnapped Murphy because they thought the US-ROK SOFA would prevent the police from arresting him.  Even if this was true, this shows how effective the misinformation about the US-ROK SOFA in Korea has been over the years.

The demonstrators that had kidnapped Murphy were from the pro-North Korean group Hanchongryun.  Hanchongryun were some of the most violent protesters duriring the 2008 US beef riots and have a long track record of anti-US and pro-North Korean activity.  This group was actually considered an illegal pro-North Korean collaborator group until Korean President Roh Moo-hyun came to power in 2003 and allowed them operate openly again.  The Hanchongryun members next took Murphy from the stadium to Kyunghee University Hospital where he was forced to apologize to Suh Kyung-won who was sitting in a hospital bed there with a black eye.  Murphy’s time at the hospital was also videotaped.  Here is what Murphy said in the video:

 “I’m sorry. I’m very sorry. I’m very sorry. I’m sorry,” says Pvt. John Murphy to Suh Kyung-won, a former South Korean assemblyman who has accused Murphy of throwing the first punch in a melee that spread from a train car to a sports stadium. Murphy, his palms pressed together and taking cues from a South Korean policeman, tells Suh, “I was swinging. I was not looking … I was scared because everybody was hitting me … I’m very, very sorry.” [Stars & Stripes]

I have seen this video before and clearly Murphy was under duress and even then he clearly states that he was assaulted by the mob first.  After being forcibly brought to the hospital and videotaped Murphy was then released by the mob to Korean police who were actually in the hospital letting the mob use Murphy as a anti-US propaganda prop. Ultimately despite being assaulted, beaten, kidnapped, and forced to make coerced statements, Murphy was charged by the Korean police for assault.

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Three USFK servicemembers at the police station after being beaten and abducted by members of the anti-US group Hanchongryun.

After this incident the US embassy and military in South Korea was furious and demanded action by the Korean government against Suh and the Hanchongryun members that were responsible for the beating and kidnapping.  They also demanded that the charges be dropped against Murphy which later they were by the Korean police.  Despite a mob beating and kidnapping these soldiers only one person ever received any punishment.  24 year old Yongin University student Koh Min-soo was fined $8,500 and given three years probation for the assault and kidnapping of the US soldiers.  However, the judge presiding over the case said during sentencing that the fight was provoked by Murphy and that Koh was responding to help an older Korean.  This is of course ridiculous when later Korean prosecutors admitted they dropped charges against Murphy because they determined that Suh struck Murphy first and then abducted him. However, defenders of Suh would later say that this was just a cultural misunderstanding:

Reminds me of the subway incident with some USFK soldiers in 2002. In my view the incident was a series of cross-cultural misunderstandings. I’ve met Suh Kyung Won personally on a few occasions and his public behavior over the years does make me believe that he probably touched one of the three US soldiers in one way or another, as he is accused of doing. No responsible public figure wants to be seen with him anymore, and he likes to make a scene and make himself a victim at demonstrations. But a man of his age can physically push a young man around in Korea, or at least do it and not then get a violent response, which appears to be what he got from the soldiers.

Americans think that once someone touches you you are authorized to unleash more than is necessary to merely get out of the situation. Angered by that, the students accompanying Suh dragged one of the soldiers on to the campus of nearby Kyunghee University to make him “apologize.” Well knowing that a US soldier had been taken by Korean students somewhere against his will, the riot police outside the school still chose not to raid the campus and rescue the guy. Like I’m saying, Koreans just don’t think “detaining” someone to make a point is full-fledged kidnapping or hostage taking, and the police, being Korean, knew instinctively that the soldier would be coming back soon enough. It was not worth breaching the unwritten rules of engagement that exists between students and riot police.

I do not think this was a cultural misunderstanding.  Suh and his goons clearly saw an opportunity to provoke an incident when they saw the GIs on the subway.  They took advantage of this opportunity and ultimately got away with assault and kidnapping.  Does anyone think that if the situation was reversed and an elder American man struck a younger Korean and then a mob of GIs pounded on the younger Koreans that people would defend the GIs for this behavior?  Better yet what if the GIs then went and took the younger Koreans as hostages, brought them on to a US military installation and then forced them to make coerced anti-Korean statements to air on the Armed Forces Network?  That is basically what happened and if GIs ever did such a thing it would lead to huge protests and outrage.  Yet when the same thing happens to GIs it is hushed up and quickly forgotten.  Here on the ROK Drop these incidents are not forgotten and hopefully shining light on these incidents can help other people from becoming provoked into an incident like these soldiers unfortunately found themselves in.

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  • Fuddpucker
    4:02 am on December 14th, 2012 1

    Well, at least he got one punch in. In other parts of the world it could have been a thousand times worse. In Korea, you’re mostly safe if you’re not in the bars or the ville late at night. Too bad the U.S. Govt. doesn’t have the gumption to finally end this war once and for all. Letting such a small, insignificant country (N.K.) pull the strings is just abysmal foreign policy. Even former U.S. Generals have said this is all a big mistake, very sharp words coming from the former leaders.

  • John in NY
    7:05 am on December 14th, 2012 2

    Man, first time hearing about this one. Thanks GIK.

  • Baek In-je
    9:44 am on December 14th, 2012 3

    So, kidnapping is not a crime in Korea. Ok. And when police see a kidnapping victim being forcably taken into a hospital, they don’t try to help that person. Ok. And then the government wants to charge the kidnapping victim for assault. Ok. Seems reasonable that he would attack a large group of angry KKKoreans for no reason.

  • Avatar of GI KoreaGI Korea
    9:53 am on December 14th, 2012 4

    @3 – In 2002 Suh and his goons knew they could get away with what they did due to the public sentiment against USFK at the time. However, I seriously doubt they would get away with such a thing today not only because Lee Myung-bak is the President but also because public sentiment in Korea has seriously shifted against people likes Suh and his goons. I think they would receive jail time today if they tried something like this again.

  • Tom
    11:52 am on December 14th, 2012 5

    “So, kidnapping is not a crime in Korea. ”

    Well let’s put it this way, it’s not nearly as bad as the 27 kids being shot dead in Connecticut. And it isn’t Cho Seung Hee this time either. :roll:

  • Teadrinker
    2:23 pm on December 14th, 2012 6

    #4,

    Yes, South Korea and South Korean society has change quite a bit since those days.

  • Teadrinker
    2:28 pm on December 14th, 2012 7

    #5,

    I pity your parents.

  • guitard
    4:02 pm on December 14th, 2012 8

    Teadrinker wrote:

    #5 (Tom),

    I pity your parents.

    The biological Korean parents who ditched him . . . or the unfortunate Canadian parents who got stuck with him?

  • kushibo
    5:35 pm on December 14th, 2012 9

    Tom’s “parents” are in Zhongnanhai.

  • Bones
    11:54 pm on December 14th, 2012 10

    I think the Koreans quietly handled that situation. Since that incident Suh and his goons have disappeared, haven’t heard from him since. If I had to guess the Koreans locked that ass up.

  • tbonetylr
    2:56 am on December 15th, 2012 11

    “They also demanded that the charges be dropped against Murphy which later they were by the Korean police.”

    I’m shocked the U.S. embassy spoke out to defend Murphy, he must feel sort of special. How many soldiers has the embassy defended since then?

    Just the other day a Korean man told me the kidnapping, beating, and coerced/forced Murphy apology and anti-American statement were a “small thing.”

  • tbonetylr
    3:00 am on December 15th, 2012 12

    I say that because Murphy was not on duty at the time and recently a soldier(Osan) was handed over to the Korean police for something done on duty.

  • tbonetylr
    3:13 am on December 15th, 2012 13

    The July Songtan fiasco happened after the “new” changes but before “initial talks.”
    One of the changes is that USFK police action against Koreans can only occur if their lives in danger, but that was exactly what was claimed in Songtan -
    ‘Police to get greater control on GI crimes’
    http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2012/12/116_126530.html
    “Initial talks on new guidelines were undertaken between the USFK, NPA and Korean military officials in May.”

  • Retired GI
    6:29 pm on December 15th, 2012 14

    I would have to agree with Fuddpucker in the first comment. There is no reason for the US to still be in Korea. I know, I know. It is vital to the interest of the US. (No, Korea is not vital to anyone) Not even Koreans. Long ago they should have been set free to do as they will, without American assistance.

  • Leon LaPorte
    6:36 pm on December 15th, 2012 15

    14. Yes, yes, it is fully understood. We all know. F@rak Korea, pull out, yadda yadda. That is not going to happen. Got anything else?

  • Retired GI
    7:13 pm on December 15th, 2012 16

    It looks like an American gulag filled with Americans under a curfew is about all that’s left. Perhaps make it a three year tour also. That way we at least get some production out of our children behind the wall. Also Korean language classes would help. Make it a promotion points issue. They don’t like it that we disrespect them by not learning their language.
    And for Gods sake get those third world women out of GI areas. That is a damn embarrassment.

    Pull out or make it our Home.

  • kushibo
    7:27 pm on December 15th, 2012 17

    I agree with Retired GI’s last comment there. Pretty much all of it, especially since he gave the option of pulling out or making it your home. The fact is, like a lot of other semipermanent bases around the world throughout history, it is a home of sorts, a place that we expect to be ours for a matter of decades rather than years. All the stuff he says that is correct, especially the stuff that would help keep me gainfully employed, the part about incentivizing the military personnel to learn Korean and get out and see the country.

  • Singleton Stone
    7:47 pm on December 15th, 2012 18

    The scary thing about this story is that I have been in the same situation, on the Seoul subway, with vocal anti-American groups handing out literature and pressuring people to sign petitions. It was during that anti-US beef riots and, yes, it was a scary experience. It sounds easy to say “I would have Bruce Lee-d and Chuck Norris-ed them.” What you actually do when faced with that situation might be something very different. One thing is for certain and that is don’t expect help from any Koreans sitting around you.

    If you are ever in that kind of situation the best thing to do is not to automatically get off the subway at the next station. Wait by the door and if they get off you stay on and vice versa.

  • Singleton Stone
    7:50 pm on December 15th, 2012 19

    17- A great deal of good volunteer work is done by USFK personnel, dependents, and American civilians in Korea. How much of it is actually reported by the Korean media is another thing, altogether.

  • jim
    7:06 pm on December 16th, 2012 20

    12, i would hardly call policing outside one’s very well-defined jurisdiction in the line of duty. just because you have a uniform on doesn’t mean you’re doing your duty. the sofa may say otherwise, but once the official investigation finds he acted outside his authority, he should be handed over to the koreans.

    16, on the money.

  • SmokingFreedomGuy
    8:44 pm on December 16th, 2012 21

    It doesn’t take you long to figure out the deck’s stacked against you when stationed here (from the inside and out). Being right or wrong doesn’t matter, what matter’s is getting away from a bad situation as cleanly as possible and the first thing that’ll prevent that is pride. If a Korean wants to give you a hard time for some reason then get up and walk away, remove yourself from them because you have no way of coming out on top.

  • warrior6
    3:15 am on January 19th, 2013 22

    2002 – in 2012? wow, looks like somebody is holding a grudge. US GIs, use your voting power and the democratic system of the GREAT USA to influence your congress and president to vacate the USFK from the soil of ROK. pretty simple to me but some ” GI ” blames the Korean people for expressing their anger at USFK as an occupation force. Americans with their great arrogance as ” great ” liberator and democracy builders see themselves as a ” hero ” – wake up from your dream. You ( GIs ) are nothing more than whoremongers who are raping and pillaging Korea. This is what I like to see some day,tables turned where USA would have an occupation force from ROK that would force local population through economic and military force to create camptowns in USA – i love to see that! GIs in KOREA – please leave ROK ASAP! :evil:

  • guitard
    3:27 am on January 19th, 2013 23

    Tom?

  • John D. Murphy
    9:19 pm on March 30th, 2013 24

    I am John Murphy. There is much more to this story than what is already known.

  • Smokes
    12:07 am on March 31st, 2013 25

    Well share then man. I, in addition to many others here would very much like to hear a first-hand accounting. :o

    Link up with GI Korea offline for an interview or something.

    If you’re someone pretending to be that guy then that’s just sad. :cry: <- Sad like that guy.

  • Baek, In-je
    12:56 am on March 31st, 2013 26

    John,
    I’ll interview you for one of my videos (cartoon video) if you would like. Check out my blog and see if you would be interested in being interviewed. Of course, you would be able to have final say on content and editing. I am a true red, white and blue patriot, so the only angle I’d have is the truth. You can leave a comment there, which will not be seen as I have comment moderation on.

  • John Murphy
    5:53 am on March 31st, 2013 27

    No, I assure you that I am really the John Murphy from this story. I would do an interview as long as it did not conflict with work. Thank you to everyone that has taken an interest in my story.

  • Bobby Ray
    6:25 am on March 31st, 2013 28

    John you ought to write down the highlights of your story here right quick. The internet aint a friendly place and it aint got itself much patience with too much mystery specially if it feels its being led on a bit with lots of promises but no action if you know what I mean. You boys were treated wrong and you got yourself a real sympathetic audience here if you dont abuse them.

  • John Murphy
    7:18 am on March 31st, 2013 29

    Well, I had a lot of support back home with my family and Congress. I wasn’t exactly sure how everything was going to pan out. I had a pistol to my head, and my life was threatened. In addition, I was beaten repeatedly and there was no way to escape. This they Anti-American Activists wanted my head on a stick! Once I was release by the KNP back to the Army the protests really heated up outside Camp Red Cloud where I was stationed. The protests got violent, and they were throwing Molotov cocktails at our gates. We were placed on high alert for a good period of time. I was placed on international hold for two months until the prosecutor threw the case out of court. The wanted me to be tried in a Korean court under Korean law, and wanted me to serve time in a Korean prison. This was all because I defended myself the best way I could against 6,000 Anti-American Activists. This was a very horrifying situation! I was helpless! This incident has caused a lot of problems for me psychologically, even to this day.

  • John D. Murphy
    8:12 am on March 31st, 2013 30

    Well, it was a pretty terrifying situation. I wasn’t quite sure how everything was going to pan out for me in the end. The Korean National Police were definitely not there to help me in any way. When I was dragged to the hospital where Suh was, that was the first time I had seen the police. Naturally, I thought I was safe when I saw them, but they continued to let the Anti-American Activists in to continue bating me while still being detained against my will by my abductors. I was continuously told I was going to die, and that no one would ever find my body. I was told that I was going to pay for the deaths of the two school girls that had happened a few months before I even came into country. I had a pistol put to my head, and I was threatened to write a statement asking President Bush to pull US troops out of South Korea immediately. Of course, I wrote a statement to satisfy them, but I wrote all false information. They wanted my name and SS#, all of my family’s names, and the soldiers that were with me on the subway. I wrote a bunch of crap to keep myself alive. They apparently did not understand how American politics work. The KNP did not want to release me back to the Army. They wanted to prosecute me, the victim, in Korean court, under Korean law, and place me in a Korean prison all because I was defending myself. It took quite a bit of negotiation to get me released back to the Army. I was placed on international hold for about two months until the Korean prosecutor threw my case out of court due to the fact that my statement was very incriminating to the KNP. They did not do their job. The Anti-American Activists wanted my head on a stick. Violent protests erupted outside of Camp Red Cloud where I was stationed. The Activists were throwing Molotov Cocktails at our gates to try and get to me. To this day, I still suffer from the events of this incident psychologically. It has weighed heavily on me and my family for almost 11 years now. The VA has taken great care of me, though. God bless America!

  • John D. Murphy
    8:25 am on March 31st, 2013 31

    I keep posting comments here in regards to my story, but they are not getting posted. Seems like they are being blocked in some way.

  • Avatar of GI KoreaGI Korea
    9:37 am on April 1st, 2013 32

    @29- John, for some reason your prior comments were picked up as spam. I pulled them out of the spam cue. The fact they held a gun to your head and threatened to kill you is significantly new information. Did you tell this to anyone in the media such as Stars and Stripes that were covering the story at the time?

  • Smokes
    10:48 am on April 1st, 2013 33

    Anyone else seeing the de-spammed comments? I’m not :|

  • John in NY
    10:57 am on April 1st, 2013 34

    Come on GIK, let’s get his posts out of the spam box.

  • tbonetylr
    3:26 pm on April 1st, 2013 35

    It may have looked like a gun, felt like a gun, but was it a fake gun?

  • John D. Murphy
    4:24 pm on April 1st, 2013 36

    When I decided to comment on here, I did acknowledge the fact that stupid questions would probably surface at some point. Yes. It was a real gun. I watched it be loaded, and I felt the cold steel and weight of it pressed against my face.

  • tbonetylr
    4:52 pm on April 1st, 2013 37

    @ 34,
    You didn’t answer #30 “Did you tell this to anyone in the media such as Stars and Stripes that were covering the story at the time?” so I had to ask.

    When I told your story to a young Korean guy he told me you shouldn’t have worn your uniform on the subway but as I see you weren’t wearing it. In S. Korea I guess I shouldn’t get a military haircut.

  • John D. Murphy
    5:01 pm on April 1st, 2013 38

    I was restricted from speaking to Stars & Stripes, or even speaking to anyone media outlet for that matter. I had only been in country just shy of 2 months, and it was on the weekend so no uniform. Owens, Tucker and I went to Seoul for the day, mainly to go to the electronics market. It was my first time out and about. I just became friends with those two guys.

  • tbonetylr
    5:41 pm on April 1st, 2013 39

    Koreans often say the SOFA is not fair because the Korean police can’t investigate or immediately ask soldiers any questions but there you are in the police station. Were you waiting for someone/something in the police station? Did you answer Korean police questions and/or were you waiting for a lawyer and interpreter?

    Koreans also say that there is some kind of U.S. military basement or something in or around the base where soldiers are taken or held for questioning but again, that seems to be the police station to me as the picture caption noted. What happened after the police station?

  • Baek, In-je
    5:56 pm on April 1st, 2013 40

    John,
    Send me a comment at my blog. I will interview you there and you can tell you complete story, your way there. You will have full editing control of the content. Click on my name and leave a comment on any post. It will go to comment moderation and not be seen.then I will contact you.

  • John D. Murphy
    7:19 pm on April 1st, 2013 41

    I will check out the blog tomorrow and give the entire story in a formal interview. It would just be a lot easier to do it this way. I’m not trying to offend anybody by not answering questions directly. I have a lot going on with work and family. Time is very limited for me. Thanks again!

  • Avatar of GI KoreaGI Korea
    9:17 pm on April 1st, 2013 42

    Everyone should be able to see John’s comments now. Let me know if anyone cannot see them.

  • tbonetylr
    10:26 pm on April 1st, 2013 43

    What is “International hold,” SOFA related?

  • guitard
    10:42 pm on April 1st, 2013 44

    It means you are barred from international travel, i.e., leaving the country.

  • Glans
    3:39 am on April 2nd, 2013 45

    Well, there’s one bright spot: the VA has been taking good care of John.

  • Avatar of GI KoreaGI Korea
    4:42 am on April 2nd, 2013 46

    @38- This means that USFK and the US embassy intentionally kept the fact that a gun was held to your head from the media. This is a significant escalation of what was already a very serious incident that the perpetrators got away with. Was the person with the gun with the original group on the subway that assaulted you?

    Also can you describe how the initial confrontation on the subway happened?

    @45- There is a lot of good people that work for the VA, but they get a bad reputation mainly because they are overwhelmed with claims that they have to research.

  • John in NY
    6:50 am on April 2nd, 2013 47

    If this is the real John Murphy, thanks for your added insight into the story.

  • John Smith
    11:40 am on April 2nd, 2013 48

    There are many guns in private hands in Korea but nobody wants to acknowledge this. Nobody wants to consider this because they are ignorant and idealistic, or because they actually have a gun and would rather not talk about it.

    It is uncommon to use them, but if North Korea invades or hungry North Korean refugees swarm across the boarder while engaging in crime, an unexpected number of South Korean citizens will protect their neighborhoods and families with a privately held firearm.

    When almost every male has qualified with an actual assault rifle during mandatory military service yet professes innocence about firearms when the topic comes up, observant and well-adjusted people should consider the bigger reality-based picture.

    It was a social faux paus to publicly use a gun with Mr. Murphy but the coverup and lack of reaction should indicate something to anybody with a hint of intelligence or observational skill. Everybody (except the deniers) fully realize what is actually happening.

  • John D. Murphy
    12:28 pm on April 2nd, 2013 49

    The police station was tense! It took hours of negotiations in order for them to finally release me back to the Army. The man with the gun was not part of the original group of abductors that took me from the subways to the university. The VA has been awesome! I am just happy to be alive, honestly. Things were handled properly on the US’s end. I wouldn’t change a thing. I will get into a lot more detail with the interview. I promise.

  • tbonetylr
    4:37 pm on April 2nd, 2013 50

    Why did you have to “swing wildly” at the man(Suh) who slapped you on the subway? And did you cuss at him, what did you say?

  • John D. Murphy
    5:38 pm on April 2nd, 2013 51

    First off, your questions are starting take a condescending tone and you’re aggravating me. He didn’t slap me in the face. He put his hand up to push my face back. I handled the situation with him, and immediately after I reacted the way I did everyone on the subway jumped on me and started hitting me. I was swinging wildly to defend myself from 20 plus people.

  • Obama's Speech Coach
    6:34 pm on April 2nd, 2013 52

    “Cultural Misunderstandings” aside, this was an act of war by norK agents.

  • tbonetylr
    7:56 pm on April 2nd, 2013 53

    You should relax and maybe read the 3rd paragraph where GI Korea wrote “Suh slapped him in the face.” I’m just responding to the written story and not trying to be “condescending”. So, before you swung wildly what does “I handled the situation with him” mean :???: GI Korea also wrote that whether you “cussed” at Suh is up for debate, so I asked.

  • John D. Murphy
    7:26 am on April 3rd, 2013 54

    It means that I defended myself as anyone would do when someone goes to put their hands on you in an aggressive manner. It says in the story that Suh does not understand English. I did not cuss at him, but if I did, how would he know I was cussing? The guy is a degenerate, criminal. He spent 10 years in prison for crossing into North Korea, illegally. He’s a liar, and nothing he has ever said should hold an ounce of credibility. Of course, unless you are an Anti-American Activist yourself, or just do not like Americans.

 

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