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Avatar of GI KoreaBy on January 3rd, 2013 at 6:14 am

Was Korean Woman Justified In Assaulting Orlando TSA Personnel?

Picture of Kim Hyun-joo via the Daily Mail.

I have had a lot of people send me the link to this story about an ajumma assaulting TSA personnel in Orlando:

A South Korean woman was jailed after she became irate and slapped a TSA employee at Orlando International Airport Wednesday, police said.

Hyunjoo Kim, 39, was upset that she needed to be patted down during the screening process at the security check point and slapped a female Transportation Security Administration employee, reports show. She became more agitated when screening officers told her two bottles of lotion were too big to carry onto the airplane.  [Orlando Sentinel]

You can read the rest about the assault at the link.  Over at the Marmot’s Hole there are some people defending Kim Hyun-joo’s actions.  No matter how frustrating TSA security checks can be this is no excuse for assaulting the screeners.  The vast majority of TSA screeners I have never had a problem with despite the bad reputation they get.  The really only poor TSA personnel I have experienced is at LAX because I have found some of them to be rude.  I guess if I lived in Los Angeles and worked at that airport I would get that way to after awhile.

The easiest way to get through security is never bring anything liquid or something sharp in your carry on bag.  Why did Kim need two big bottles of lotion on the airplane?  She should have just put it into her checked in luggage.  As far as a pat down what is the big deal?  I have been pat down multiple times after going through the X-ray machine because they randomly grab people for extra screening.  If you don’t want to be scanned then you have no choice but to be pat down.  It is people like Kim that cause security lines to take longer than necessary because the TSA personnel reacting to them slows down the line for everyone else.  People just need to chill out get to the airport early and use some common sense on what to bring inside your carry on bag and that would avoid a lot of frustration with TSA.

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  • Leon LaPorte
    6:53 am on January 3rd, 2013 1

    Korean adjima throwing a fit at the airport… Why does that sound familiar?

  • Kingkitty
    8:29 am on January 3rd, 2013 2

    We stopped in Detroit and the TSA claimed my Wife’s (Korean) Green Card was stolen over 10 years ago. Confused we had to sit in the TSA office for almost an hour where I listened to the way they talked to other people.

    They were rude to everyone the spoke to to include me. I spoke up and caused a stink about the way they talked to people. I was very disgusted. Oddly enough it seemed the only Koreans on the flight all had Green Card issues.

    Once we cleared up our issue (with no explanation from TSA)We had to go through the gate for our connector and my wife was the only one in the family who had to go through the body Xray machine. And the only other people I saw in the body Xray machines where the other Koreans on the flight.

    I also couldn’t help noticing that some of the other TSA “helpers” just seemed to be uneducated and just dumb. One guy has head phones on and singing rap at the gate. Singing rap is fine but at the security check point…yea…its an Obama world we live in now.

  • guitard
    9:13 am on January 3rd, 2013 3

    TSA “helpers” just seemed to be uneducated and just dumb.

    How smart do you have to be to check and make sure the name on the boarding pass matches the name in the passport?

    How difficult is it to say, “Shoes have to go through the scanner. Belts have to be off. Laptops have to go in a separate container.”

    80% of the work requires a 6th grade education . . . at most.

    I’d say the guys working the x-ray scanners might need a high school diploma.

    And the most critical skill can’t be taught: having a 6th sense for sniffing out someone who is up to no good.

  • Glans
    9:59 am on January 3rd, 2013 4

    My experience with TSA has been positive. Tom, also known as Kim Hyunjoo, had better learn to keep his or her hands off federal officers. Only a well-regulated militia has the right to overthrow the federal government.

  • Tom
    10:54 am on January 3rd, 2013 5

    But in other news, one ugly American ajoshi arrested in Incheon airport, after the Korean Air flight from New York arrived. The man was drunk and grabbed the girls, then started to fondle the three Korean stewardesses. The male stewardess tried to intervene, but the drunk American punched his face. The crew had to taser gun the out of control American (remember, we don’t want any mass shootings on flights that would be a disaster) to gain control of him physically. His name is “Mr. A”, 44 years old. The police have arrested him and are questioning the man.

    http://www.obsnews.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=677415

    GI and ESL teachers harassing Korean women and acting as if they own the world. Hmm…where have I seen that one before?

    :roll:

  • Tom
    11:08 am on January 3rd, 2013 6

    More on the bulletin news here

    http://news.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2013/01/03/2013010302635.html?news_Head1

    And it gets better. :lol: Scared American Airline stewardess fights with the pilots, screams “we are going to crash, we have to return to the airport now!” into the passenger intercom. Watch the video :lol:

    http://reuters.donga.com/bbs/main.php?tcode=10102&no=19452

    Scared American ajuma stewardess on crack? Not surprising since in America, drugs are consumed like they are food. :lol:

  • Chris Hiler
    11:36 am on January 3rd, 2013 7

    Its odd to me how rarely one sees common sense in use when dealing with the general public.

  • JoeC
    12:39 pm on January 3rd, 2013 8

    She could have just flipped them off. :idea:

  • Kingkitty
    12:39 pm on January 3rd, 2013 9

    Kim Hyunjoo,

    What is your point with your posts? You bring up a couple of events which happened over the last couple of years? Why Tom do you always have to see this as a racial issue?

    If you really want to talk about racial issues then you should talk about the several dozen Korean Air accidents were the Korean Pilot refused to listen to the western pilot.

    Or the flight were the pilot began praying in Arabic and had to be wrestled away from the controls as he tried to plunge the plane to the ground.

    Or about about the commuter plane pilot that went into a panic during a storm and ran into a NY neighborhood…later is was found she less then 30 hours of flight time.

    What does any of this mean? Nothing really other than your making everything to be an anti-foreigner bias even with your fake name (Tom) and well its gets really old after a while

  • tbonetylr
    2:07 pm on January 3rd, 2013 10

    # 9,
    “Why Tom do you always have to see this as a racial issue?”

    Why don’t you read what you wrote in no. 2 and tell me if there is any similarity?

    “Oddly enough it seemed the only Koreans on the flight all had Green Card issues.”

  • Setnaffa
    2:56 pm on January 3rd, 2013 11

    #10, are you saying blacks hate Koreans?

  • a-letheia
    6:40 pm on January 3rd, 2013 12

    Talk about TSA agents in general all you want, but this here story took place in Orlando, where the TSA are super-friendly mainly since it is a major tourist destination. I have a brother there, and have flown in and out at least 20 times. The TSA are gentle, chatty, and cool there… You know this Korean woman over-reacted. She was probably more pissed off at whoever in her family f**cked up the packing. My Korean wife did something similar once in Thailand. Had I did what she did, I’d have been arrested, but the Thais just stared at her in disbelief(while I pretended not to know her).

  • Bob
    7:49 pm on January 3rd, 2013 13

    I hate TSA agents in Detroit. I once really pissed one off. She had a megaphone and was walking up and down the aisle yelling “have passports ready” when she placed the megaphone on a table and took a quick breather I ran up to it and shouted “This fat bitch needs to lose some weight and shut up” to much applause…Even though I had to pay a fine for public disorderly conduct, and spend the next 6 hrs in their offices it was worth it. I had a connecting flight the next day anyways :)

  • tbonetylr
    7:50 pm on January 3rd, 2013 14

    # 11,

    Where in the world did you get that or why would you ask such a thing?

  • SmokingFreedomGuy
    9:22 pm on January 3rd, 2013 15

    I get patted down every single time I’m at the Incheon Airport; but then again it may have something to do with me demanding they pat me down. I lather up in Crisco in the parking lot just before I come in too. I also hold a bullhorn, make loud sensual noises, and dance like Andy Richter in Cabin Boy during the entire pat down.

    On a serious note, TSA is another failure in the great government experiment of pretending they know what they’re doing but it’s no reason to hit someone. Other privetly ran airport security companies are currently proving what a fat pile of waste and bloat the TSA is. King Obama will never admit this and probably just spend more money “reasearching” a better way to run it, you know like what they’re doing with the Post Office and numerous other orifices.. I mean offices of government.

    Still hitting isn’t the solution, unless it’s Tom of course.

  • Eddie Cantor
    10:46 pm on January 3rd, 2013 16

    I haven’t had any problems but I did see something when we were visiting Miami last year. Someone in front of us was wearing a Jets jersey and two of the TSA agents were actually giving him a hard time about it because they said they were Dolphins fans. At one point one of the TSA agents threatened him with being sent to a backroom. The young man just moved on but what a way to deal with passengers. They must not fear losing their jobs.

  • Please don’t sexually harass the flight attendants | The Marmot's Hole
    12:21 am on January 4th, 2013 17

    [...] According to this report (HT to Tom), the flight was Korean, the flight attendants were Korean, and the lout was a businessman sitting [...]

  • kushibo
    2:50 am on January 4th, 2013 18

    I know the TSA isn’t exactly popular, since they make so many people feel like they’re being indicted for “flying while White,” but I’m baffled that so many people (here and at The Marmot’s Hole) are celebrating this ajumma’s boorish behavior.

    Kingkitty (#2), I wonder if the tendency of ROK passports to be stolen and used by PRC nationals and others may have been part of that; the system is elaborate and may have included co-opted resident alien numbers. Just putting that out there.

    Kingkitty (#9)…

    If you really want to talk about racial issues then you should talk about the several dozen Korean Air accidents were the Korean Pilot refused to listen to the western pilot.

    “Several dozen” incidents? So we’re talking at least thirty-six. I can think of one particularly infamous incident, but can you tell me where the other several dozen come from? (And that sound more like Confucian hierarchy than racism.)

    SmokingFreedomGuy (#15)…

    Other privetly ran airport security companies are currently proving what a fat pile of waste and bloat the TSA is. King Obama will never admit this

    I’m not going to defend the TSA, but it was a Bush43-era creation, not an Obama creation.

    Also, wasn’t it the failure of private security firms on 9/11 that prompted the creation of TSA in the first place?

  • Tom
    5:17 am on January 4th, 2013 19

    TSA at Orlando picks out only Asians and other visible minorities, but let whites go past.

  • Leon LaPorte
    5:21 am on January 4th, 2013 20

    19. Whites generally do not blow up planes. To be fair, neither do Asians. I know who I would focus on. The Israelis know too. ;-)

  • Tom
    6:15 am on January 4th, 2013 21

    #18 You’re one “infamous” incident refers to the Korean co-pilot fighting with the Canadian captain over the control of the plane during a landing at the Jeju airport in the 1990′s, almost 20 years ago. At the time of the landing, there was a big storm, and the plane crash landed.

    But how did that one incident turn into “several dozen” incidents involving Korean pilots and foreign pilots? Typical exaggeration of negative incidents involving Koreans, by ESL polluters. :lol:

  • Tom
    6:18 am on January 4th, 2013 22

    “Whites generally do not blow up planes.”

    But they like to molest women attendants on planes and get drunk and violent. NOT TO MENTION hundreds of deaths caused by mass shootings in schools, malls, and churches every year. You don’t want them carrying weapons on board on planes to cause a mass damage on air!

  • Kangaji
    7:14 am on January 4th, 2013 23

    Tom – you just got a hat tip on rjkoehler.com for getting lots of details on the drunken 아저씨

  • Teadrinker
    7:36 am on January 4th, 2013 24

    #18, 21,

    No, not dozens, but still a significant number in the last 20 years.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_incidents_and_accidents

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asiana_Airlines#Incidents_and_accidents

  • Tom
    7:45 am on January 4th, 2013 25

    LOL… Teadrinker, all the accidents were back in the 1990′s, mostly almost twenty years ago, while none in the 2000′s. And what’s that got to do with Korean pilots arguing with foreign pilots? Try again.

  • Kingkitty
    7:58 am on January 4th, 2013 26

    Kushibo….look it up….

  • TAB
    11:40 am on January 4th, 2013 27

    You go to a foreign country and assault someone (or break the law), you deserve to be punished, it’s that plain and simple. This applies to US soldiers and ESL teachers in Korea, as well as ajjumas in the US.

    Making excuses for such behavoir only proves you’re a scumbag loser.

  • Teadrinker
    4:16 pm on January 4th, 2013 28

    25
    You really are a dumbass. I was agreeing with you.

  • jackshi
    12:59 am on January 5th, 2013 29

    #22 Tom

    Shootings by whites? What about Virginia Tech?

  • Liz
    3:38 am on January 5th, 2013 30

    The TSA personnel have a very antagonistic relationship with the airline pilots. I’m convinced they all receive lobotomies during training.

  • Glans
    4:26 am on January 5th, 2013 31

    It’s a national scandal, Liz. No pilot should ever be lobotomized again.

  • Liz
    7:23 am on January 5th, 2013 32

    #31:

    Pffth

  • Glans
    1:21 pm on January 6th, 2013 33

    The problem isn’t just the feds. A Texas state trooper publicly searched the the genital and anal areas of two women. The accusation? Littering. The suspicion? Drugs. The evidence? None. Here’s the HuffingtonPost report with video.
    Would these two women have been justified if they had used firearms to resist the search?

  • Liz
    3:28 pm on January 6th, 2013 34

    Was the ajumma packin’ heat to resist the TSA search?
    Am I missing something?

  • SmokingFreedomGuy
    6:24 pm on January 6th, 2013 35

    #18 Kushibo:
    “I’m not going to defend the TSA, but it was a Bush43-era creation, not an Obama creation.”

    Never claimed he was responsible for its creation but it’s his ass on the throne right now so it’s his responsibility. That’s a problem with the kind of leadership that gets in office, they’re so focused on pushing their own junk through that they think will solve the world’s problems they never do anything to fix everything that the last genius broke with their junk. They just shrug and say “Hey I didn’t do that, the last guy did that.” Yeah that’s great and all, we know the last guy did but he’s gone now so what are YOU going to do to fix it?

    “Also, wasn’t it the failure of private security firms on 9/11 that prompted the creation of TSA in the first place?”

    It wouldn’t suprise me in the least if that contributed to it but as I’m not nor have I ever been a part of any group tasked to analyze what lead to the events of 9/11 I’d never make a maatter-of-fact statement that singles one thing out as the root cause. Neither should you.

  • Liz
    6:48 pm on January 6th, 2013 36

    #35 The problem is, now that the TSA has been established eliminating it is basically impossible. Even a farcical security theatre government jobs program like TSA.

    No one wants to be responsible for any potential adverse consequences (that might be blamed, whether correctly or no it’s public perception that matters) on the elimination of any security measure. That’s the nature of all bureaucracy. What is true of government agencies also holds true of regulations. The Department of Homeland Security itself is superfluous. It is a bureaucracy created to oversee a bureaucracy (which oversees other bureaucracies, and so forth).

  • SmokingFreedomGuy
    6:58 pm on January 6th, 2013 37

    Liz just once I’d like to get a leader in there who spends the majority of their time in office getting rid of all the junk imposed by previous leaders that culminated in nothing but failure and waste. That alone would serve the country more than anything else and you don’t even need to worry about thinking up new stuff to do because there’s so much bad stuff that needs to go.

    It’ll never happen and I’m stuck waiting for a zombie apocolypse because short of that we’re eternally screwed. That or aliens come and take over. :/

  • Liz
    7:52 am on January 7th, 2013 38

    I agree SFG. I don’t think there is much remedy outside of robotic overlords razing the thing to the ground. I guess the BRAC was evidence that some consensus for streamlining is possible (sort of), but it’s the rare exception.

    Just the nature of our system. Regulations are primarily driven by a push from the public (either the public at large, or private entity conglomerates pooling their mutual interests together). Starts with, “There ought to be a law!” (my son was bit by a dog/I stepped on a tack/the meat was bad/I don’t like cigaretts smoke/et al).

    Once a law is passed, accountability needs to be enforced (or it’s useless), which leads to the creation of an accountability arm. Then each level of accountability creates its own set of regulations…no one wishes to eliminate any regulations, because they would then be responsible for any potential adverse consequences, so they just tend to add more. This results in little flexibility. Over time the system builds on itself.

    On the flip side, the reason we didn’t descend quickly into tyranny after our revolution, unlike France or Russia for instance, is because our founders didn’t design a government the would enable a few capable ruling geniuses to make large changes, they designed a government that could be run by complete imbeciles who couldn’t do too much damage.

  • Ck
    1:21 am on January 8th, 2013 39

    Have read the story and have a qustion: do we have a proof of what really happened? Regardless of what’s being executued by those TSA, we really don’t know what really happened. If I can, I’d love to see the survaillance footage b4 I make my decision on who’s fault it really is. I’m saying that her behavior was fully right, but I still need a resource and proof of what did occur @ orlando.

  • Denny
    12:15 pm on January 18th, 2013 40

    Say goodbye to TSA body scanners!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2264568/Federal-government-remove-controversial-naked-image-body-scanners-airports-passengers-privacy-concerns.html

    The Transportation Security Administration has announced that it will remove the ‘naked image’ scanners from U.S. airports because the machines’ developers can’t write software to make the images less revealing.

    When the machines were introduced into U.S. airports two years ago, they immediately became the focus of lawsuits and protests. The X-ray images they produce are so clear that opponents say they amount to pornography.

  • Scientist
    12:43 pm on January 18th, 2013 41

    - the machines’ developers can’t write software to make the images less revealing.

    WTF? Hollywood movies are made entirely with software and nobody can write code to obscure naughty bits in a grainy black and white image?

    The real reason is probably closer to getting them out of use before a statistically significant rise in cancer among frequent flyers can be shown in the coming years.

  • Liz
    1:16 am on January 21st, 2013 42

    Apparently they aren’t really getting rid of the scanners afterall:

    http://www.elliott.org/security-2/sorry-but-the-tsa-still-wants-to-scan-you/#more-27281

 

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