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USFK Renegs On Promise For More Command Sponsorship Slots In South Korea

Apparently the Pentagon’s budget problems is causing USFK to be short on money to expand the command sponsorship program in Korea.  This is going to lead to US troops spending more time away from their families:

Bringing families to South Korea remains out of reach for most U.S. troops due to financial constraints preventing the military from expanding the popular tour normalization program.

Addressing what it called “current news reports,” U.S. Forces Korea issued a statement last week saying that “while improvements to readiness remain the command’s first priority, tour normalization is not affordable at this time.”  [Stars & Stripes]

You can read the rest at the link, but does anyone think money would ever be taken away from moving families to Germany like what has happened with troops stationed in Korea?

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  • guitard
    8:56 am on January 10th, 2013 1

    This is going to lead to US troops spending more time away from their families

    Before the tour normalization program started, thousands of troops were bringing their families to Korea. And it wasn’t just guys with Korean wives. The only thing that might be a deal breaker is schooling, as it’s a crap shoot as to whether you’ll be able to get your kids into school on base if you’re not command sponsored. But if you don’t have school age kids – or if you’re willing to home school – you’re golden.

  • Leon LaPorte
    12:31 pm on January 10th, 2013 2

    Wow! Mind blowing! Never saw it coming.

  • BBBBBBBBBBell
    5:04 pm on January 10th, 2013 3

    @Leon: You and me both!

    While Command Sponsorship may be ending, families can still come to Korea on the Govt’s dime, receive OHA and receive SOFA with logistical support. Like #1 said, schooling may be an issue.

  • LG DACOM Stinks, Royally
    6:37 pm on January 10th, 2013 4

    This news was more interesting last week.

  • chefantwon
    6:43 pm on January 10th, 2013 5

    Here I was expecting the military leaders to actually care for the troops serving overseas…..

    So much for that dream.

  • SmokingFreedomGuy
    7:16 pm on January 10th, 2013 6

    Why is it USFJ can plan for, accommodate the number of its personnel, maintain readiness, and people like being there?

    I ask because I’ve never been there and that’s the impression I get, maybe I’m wrong.

  • Ole Tanker
    8:34 pm on January 10th, 2013 7

    #6,

    USFK has spent all of it’s money $$$ and infrastructure on GS Civilians giving away LQA and putting all the Korean/Filipino kids in DODDS schools.

    So poor old Joe and his family can “suck it up” for a year.

  • Eddie Cantor
    9:13 pm on January 10th, 2013 8

    Did this make the news before anyone was officially told about it?

  • SmokingFreedomGuy
    10:42 pm on January 10th, 2013 9

    #7 Are you actually implying money spent on DAC’s is a waste? The average SM is much more a fiscal waste. 1 DAC is worth upwards of 20 soldiers depending on the type of work. If you’ve forgotten I’ll happily remind you that the primary reason the US military is so efficient is the support system in place for the combat units. Take all the civillians out of that system and it’ll all go to hell because active duty can’t run it’s own shit, plain and simple.

    By the way why do you go out of the way to single out children where one parent’s Korean or Filipino?

    Change your name to “Ole Racist” or “Ole Redneck” or something; be proud of your ignorance.

  • Eddie Cantor
    12:57 am on January 11th, 2013 10

    Does anyone remember the name of that General at Fort Hood in the 1990′s who spent money on golf courses instead of housing for soldiers and families?

  • Ole Tanker
    10:05 am on January 11th, 2013 11

    SFG # 9

    I have been a proponent for more Command Sponsored slots in Korea for a long time! From my experience at Camp Casey on tanks, the need for stabilized crews like they had in Germany was great.
    Here’s a thought. Maybe we are trying to make Korean tours like tours in Europe and Japan.
    I believe it is no secret that a lot of guys marry drinky girls, and yes many bring children from previous marriages as well.
    If a tank guy is married to a drinky girl with 3 kids, WHO CARES? Just so he can do his job, is all that matters.
    Eventually tank guy is going to PCS, and I would love to see him replaced by a squared away tanker, who maybe a lot happier if he has his family with him. But no! Squared away tanker can’t bring his family with him because he can’t put his 7 year old daughter in school at Camp Casey. So squared away tanker doesn’t put in his 4187 and a dirt bag Private straight out of basic goes to Casey instead.
    Now talking about DAC’s! We seem to forget that they only have their jobs because of the SOLDIER!
    Honestly, we all know most of the rubber meets the road support work in Korea is done by Contractors and the Local Nationals.
    Now, granted there are those DAC’s out there who think they are invaluable, and they may have even convinced the Command that they are invaluable, therefore they have slipped by the 5 year rule, tour after tour.
    But we all know the old maxim “No one is indispensable.”
    I mentioned Koreans and Filipinos only because they are proportionally the most likely to prefer homesteading in Korea, or do we just want to ignore the 600 pound Pony in the room?
    There may be one or two DACs out there with kids in school at Camp Casey, and maybe for the good of the country they could slide back stateside and let squared away tanker do a tour at Casey.
    Oh, let me point out I don’t care what ethnicity squared away tanker is! Indian, Muslim, Black, Asian, even White. Again it doesn’t matter because he is squared away. And a squared away tanker is Combat Ready to Fight Tonight!
    Which I believe I read somewhere is the goal of normalized tours in Korea.

  • InnocentBystander
    2:16 pm on January 11th, 2013 12

    This is not surprising. Infrastructure and support services are already stressed. Spouses complain there are no jobs for them, so why bring more over? Yongsan/Humphries transition plan continues to drag on. Over 5 DACs are getting the middle finger. The list goes on…

  • Ole Tanker
    7:26 pm on January 11th, 2013 13

    #12

    As long as it’s my spouse I care. F^$%^ a soldier’s spouse. As long as it’s my kid I care, F#@!K a soldiers kid.

    What is new here?

  • someotherguy
    11:05 pm on January 13th, 2013 14

    @Ole

    You need to get the f*ck out of the TDC area, that is now how the rest of the ROK is. The most common marriage isn’t GI to Filipino but GI to Korean. It only looks like the Filipino’s are the most due to the extraordinary high concentration of them up in 2ID land. I blame that on the lack of a decent Korean University nearby. Osan area suffers from similar demographics though Pyeongtaek is close enough to provide alternatives for those willing to adventure out of the ville.

    The fight between Soldier vs DAC vs Contractor is eternal. Ultimately it’s futile as the number of soldiers is limited by Congress and you don’t hire SGT / SSG / CPT’s, you have to grow them instead. DAC’s can be hired through after the first few years their nearly impossible to fire. Contractors can easily be replace as contracts are done on a yearly basis.

    In either case, Casey is a SH!TTY place to bring an “American” family. That entire area is the arsehole of Korea. Before you bring a family get an assignment to Area II / III / IV, much better facilities. Korean spouses are natives and can easily survive, Filipina’s have the bamboo support network to utilize, BBW’s would be SoL.

  • InnocentBystander
    5:19 am on January 14th, 2013 15

    …bamboo support network… :lol: Stealing that.

 

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