ROK Drop

Avatar of GI KoreaBy on March 20th, 2013 at 6:48 am

Korean Man Who Stabbed GIs Will Not Face Assault Charges

The next time a GI gets in trouble after defending himself from a Korean mob we can all now point back to this incident to show he should be let off lightly:

SEOUL — A Korean night club manager who police say stabbed three U.S. soldiers during a brawl was in jail Tuesday after being charged with causing injury to others.

He was not charged with more serious crimes, such as assault or attempted murder, because he only stabbed the soldiers Saturday after being forced to defend himself, a Dongducheon Police spokesman said.

“He had no intention of murdering any of the soldiers, and only wielded the knife against them because he was being assaulted by them,” the police official said.

The case will be forwarded to the Uijeongbu District Prosecutor’s office for further consideration. [Stars & Stripes]

It looks like the bar owner is going to hit with the lesser charge of bodily injury instead of the more serious assault. I love how the police say he was defending himself from the soldiers when he is the one who interjected himself into the altercation and took the knife from his E6 buddy to stab the other soldiers with.

I am sure that Pvt. John Humphrey of the Shinchon Stabbing Incident fame would have loved to have received a bodily injury conviction instead of being convicted and jailed for attempted homicide after pulling a knife to defend himself from a Korean mob that assaulted him. PFC Acosta and PFC Bohman likewise would have loved to have just been facing a bodily injury conviction charge after they were beat down by Korean mobs. Heck Acosta had to pay restitution to the Korean guy that smashed his face in with a metal pipe:

So is the bar owner going to pay any restitution to these soldiers he stabbed? I doubt it. What the bar owner did is far worse than what Pvt. Humphrey did since he interjected himself into the fight and used the knife not for defense, but to assault others. Humphrey accidently stabbed one person while trying to defend himself from the mob while the bar owner intentionally stabbed three people. Unlike Humphrey I do not think the bar owner should face attempted homicide charges because those charges were politically motivated, however how is it that this is not an assault case?

So the next time anyone hears a Korean complain about GI crime and the SOFA make sure to point to this incident and ask them to explain why Koreans can get away with committing crimes against US servicemembers?

Tags: , , , , ,
- 3,426 views
87
  • Sit UBU, Sit!
    5:19 am on March 20th, 2013 1

    The bar owner must have some big-time connections. How else could this happen?

  • Baek, In-je
    5:27 am on March 20th, 2013 2

    If you get into a fight with a Korean, finish him off…with a foot stomp to the head. He would do the same to you and get away with it. You will never ever get justice in this 3rd world sh!thole. You might as well just defend yourself.

  • Jinro Dukkohbi
    6:00 am on March 20th, 2013 3

    They fought the mob and the…mob won…

  • Bobby Ray
    7:13 am on March 20th, 2013 4

    I reckon the real test of how big his connection are is to see if his bar gets right quick on the restricted list or if it’s business as usual.

  • Tom
    7:38 am on March 20th, 2013 5

    The MP’s who beat up S.Korean citizens won’t face assault charges. So are the GI’s who ran over a Korean police with a car won’t face charges of attempted murder either. So where’s the unfairness? :roll:

  • setnaffa
    7:51 am on March 20th, 2013 6

    Tom knows so many things that never happened… He’s amazing!!

    OTOH, “Baek, In-je” just seems like a guy who spent too much time in the ‘ville…

  • tbonetylr
    7:55 am on March 20th, 2013 7

    “So the next time anyone hears a Korean complain about GI crime and the SOFA make sure to point to this incident and ask them to explain why Koreans can get away with committing crimes against US servicemembers?”

    I’d also like to point to whether Korean soldiers going to American “military school” ever face American civilian/criminal courts or not as I asked here…?
    http://rokdrop.com/2013/03/19/debunking-us-korea-sofa-and-gi-crime-claims/

  • Bleedthefreak
    8:02 am on March 20th, 2013 8

    Tom obviously has some serious mental problems, doesn’t he?

    What kind of human being writes such a thing? We all know people like him wouldn’t have the guts to say that to someone’s face, unless drunk, or armed, or with a group similar like minded people, or all of the above.

    Maybe it’s just that I don’t have a problem telling people to their face that they are scum. We are talking about a group of people that teaches little children to hate the Japanese for what they did to their country almost 100yrs ago, so I’m surprised.

  • Bleedthefreak
    8:10 am on March 20th, 2013 9

    *so I’m NOT surprised*

  • setnaffa
    8:12 am on March 20th, 2013 10

    BTW, if the three guys who got stabbed were not the cause of the initial fracas, I wouldn’t want to be related to or employed by Stabby McKim…

  • Onezime
    8:16 am on March 20th, 2013 11

    The details are so vague, it’s hard to decide what to believe.

  • Onezime
    8:17 am on March 20th, 2013 12

    They really need to do a better job reporting this story because this is going to breed contempt.

  • setnaffa
    8:28 am on March 20th, 2013 13

    BTW, get ready for more stabbings… http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/20/decision-to-extend-trusted-traveler-program-to-saudi-scrutinized/

  • Tom
    8:38 am on March 20th, 2013 14

    The GI who ran over the police with the car after shooting up the town with pellet guns were charged with dangerous driving, but he was not charged with hurting the policeman. The MP’s who assaulted South Korean citizens last year didn’t even get charged with anything and they snuck out of the country while the supposed “investigation” was still going on. Both cases show US servicemen got favorable treatments by the Korean police. So where are the complaints? Oh that’s right. There are none.

    If anyone can counter my points without calling me names, you are welcomed to do so. :roll:

  • Tom
    8:44 am on March 20th, 2013 15

    More news.

    The GI who pushed a Korean policeman down the stairs at a Korean police station after the GI got into a fight with somebody in Hongdae last week, was not charged with assault by the Korean police either. Yet another case of favorable treatment for US soldiers. Any complaints here? Nope.

  • Bobby Ray
    10:24 am on March 20th, 2013 16

    Tom you are a scoundrel but since you done made some partway sensible comments I reckon they deserve a response.

    Best I can tell everybody here wanted them Korean police to throw the book at them pellet gun desperados. I reckon about everybody here is as disappointed as you are if that don’t happen.

    Them MP’s who done caused all that ruckus didn’t get no training and were all pumped up on ego according to what I read here and they deserve some trouble over that but them Korean police delayed and delayed doing anything about it.

    That boy who throwed that police man down the stairs on his off time is fully in the hands of them Korean police. Everybody here would be cheering for hard labor and there ain’t nothing that SOFA can do to stop it.

    It seem most folks here are cheering for all them dummies to be stomped into the ground but for some reason them Korean police ain’t doing it. Maybe your time would be better spent getting on some of them Korean boards and bellyaching about incompetent Korean police or spineless Korean prosecutors or weak Korean politicians and stop coming on here to preach to the choir that stupid bad people need to be properly punished.

    If it makes you feel better they is all going to get their medicine from the military worse then the Koreans would have done except for them MPs who are going to fade right away cause nobody wants to notice that there ain’t no discipline in that USFK even on official duty and all.

  • Tom
    12:47 pm on March 20th, 2013 17

    Bobby Ray, you completely ignored my point. The charges here are that the Korean police will only side with Koreans, and that they are unfair to USFK soldiers. I have shown you that this is not true at all, and that the Korean police have also given you a number of favorable treatments which you guys are not willing acknowledge. You guys complain when the Korean justice system always goes against you, but you are very silent when the judgements have favored you guys.

  • tbonetylr
    2:10 pm on March 20th, 2013 18

    Those cops didn’t bleed blood and the taxi chasing cop probably threw himself into the car, not a drop of pure blood lost. I know, I know, some cloth was torn but wasn’t there an apology made?

  • jim592855
    2:13 pm on March 20th, 2013 19

    Bleedthefreak, please foad already

  • Leon LaPorte
    2:16 pm on March 20th, 2013 20

    16. Perhaps we Americans view of crime and justice is skewed. We are always in a big hurry to “lock someone up and throw away the key” or “throw someone under the jail” for crimes that are often not punished as rigorously in other civilized countries.

    Perhaps the Korean police ARE treating the GI’s the same as Koreans. I’ve seen drunk Koreans push and shove and wrestle with (infinitely patient) Korean police.

    Regardless, we Americans should consider why we have 25% of the planets prison population. We always want or pound of flesh.

  • Obama's Speech Coach
    3:52 pm on March 20th, 2013 21

    20, your facts just ain’t so…

  • Leon LaPorte
    4:16 pm on March 20th, 2013 22

    21. O’rly?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States

    The United States has the highest documented incarceration rate in the world (743 per 100,000 population), Russia has the second highest rate (577 per 100,000), followed by Rwanda (561 per 100,000).[8] As of year-end 2009 the USA rate was 743 adults incarcerated in prisons and jails per 100,000 population.[4][8] At year-end 2007 the United States had less than 5% of the world’s population[29] and 23.4% of the world’s prison and jail population (adult inmates).[9]

    By comparison the incarceration rate in England and Wales[clarification needed] in October 2011 was 155 people imprisoned per 100,000 residents;[30] the rate for Norway in May 2010 was 71 inmates per 100,000;[31] Netherlands in April 2010 was 94 per 100,000;[32] Australia in June 2010 was 133 per 100,000;[33] and New Zealand in October 2010 was 203 per 100,000.[34]

    Incarceration rate in the USA for federal and state prisons in 2007 was the highest in history of the country.

    Don’t like wiki?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/23/world/americas/23iht-23prison.12253738.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

    U.S. prison population dwarfs that of other nations

    The United States has less than 5 percent of the world’s population. But it has almost a quarter of the world’s prisoners.

    Indeed, the United States leads the world in producing prisoners, a reflection of a relatively recent and now entirely distinctive American approach to crime and punishment. Americans are locked up for crimes — from writing bad checks to using drugs — that would rarely produce prison sentences in other countries. And in particular they are kept incarcerated far longer than prisoners in other nations.

    Criminologists and legal scholars in other industrialized nations say they are mystified and appalled by the number and length of American prison sentences.

    So either Americans are the worst people on the planet or we are doing it wrong.

  • Sonagi
    4:17 pm on March 20th, 2013 23

    “Regardless, we Americans should consider why we have 25% of the planets prison population. We always want or pound of flesh.”

    And we’re happy to pay $35,000 a year per prisoner to satisfy our bloodlust.

  • BEAVIS
    4:19 pm on March 20th, 2013 24

    Hey Tom Your A Idiot!!! The wife of the GI was driving!!!

  • Flyingsword
    4:36 pm on March 20th, 2013 25

    Don’t forget all the rape of US female service members by Korean males. The males were: 1.not prosecuted; 2 prosecuted but found not guilty since the female did not fight back enough, or 3. convicted and sentenced to a very light term..

    Don’t expect justice if you are a foreigner in any foreign country. Especially in Korea.

  • G.I. G.I. Joe
    5:29 pm on March 20th, 2013 26

    Don’t forget all the rape of US female service members by Korean males. The males were: …2 prosecuted but found not guilty since the female did not fight back enough,….

    This is the most puzzling since Korean law does not recognize self-defense but relative damage. It seems that the rape victims must perfectly calibrate their “fighting back” enough to satisfy a Korean court that they don’t want to be raped by some drunk ajosshi who they never met before without hurting him. Too much resistance, and she’ll owe him blood money; not enough, and the rapist goes free.

  • Smokes
    6:33 pm on March 20th, 2013 27

    Time out for Tom:

    Osan SP Handcuffing
    No one was beaten or assaulted; stop lying. Korean citizens were detained as a result of vague policies by both the US and Korea. The Korean and US officals as a result of this will ensure repsonsibilites and open avenues of action will be more clearly defined so that an incident like this doesn’t happen again as it was clear no one was pleased with the way it went down. This was clearly a case of poor guidance, no crime was committed.

    Everytime you try to raise this incident you make wild claims that “people were beaten” or “were assaulted”. Unless you have images or video backing this up you’re lying as none surfaced during this whole thing that showed anyone being hit. You also keep referring to them as MP’s, they were Airmen not Soldiers.

    You also try to use this as an example of the police showing favoritism to US personnel in Korea. Here’s the reality on that; the KNP doesn’t have a say in the matter, the SOFA clearly covers this and as USFK doesn’t see the need to press on this the KNP has to suck it up and move on. Tough but next time read the EULA before clicking “I Agree”.

    If you continue to lie and use weasel-words you’ll continue to be treated like people treat you now.

  • Tom
    7:08 pm on March 20th, 2013 28

    #27 Hey Smokes, the video of US MP’s beating on the South Korean citizens for “illegal parking” in front of their own property has been widely viewed by everybody here and in the ROK. Don’t lie. Now you’re saying the Korean police are powerless in front of SOFA. That’s completely opposite to what rokdrop and lot of others have been claiming here.

    And Bevis, if the wife of the GI was the driver, why wasn’t she charged by Korean police? Oh that’s right, she got a break from Korean police, totally let off.

    Now maybe you guys get to know how Koreans feel how they’re getting treated by their own police in their own country.

  • Tom
    7:18 pm on March 20th, 2013 29

    Another perfect example:

    Last year when the American black English teacher who assaulted an old man and few others, in a bus that became infamous Youtube TV. He was let go after he apologized, and continued to teach at the same school. Did anyone complain the foreigner was not treated fairly? Of course not. He wasn’t punished at all, yet where’s the cries of Koreans getting unfair justice?

    You guys have extremely short memory. So biased and your memories are selective.

    Not to mention foreign prisoners in Korea are incacerated in special prisons for foreigners with hotel like accommodations during their brief stays in Korea. It would be rare to see Americans even serve over a year in prison for anything. I think that GI murderer in 1992 is one exception.

  • SHAGGY & SCOOBY
    8:31 pm on March 20th, 2013 30

    We are kicking you out of the Mystery Machine Tom, because your smokin all of our stash, eatin all of the Scooby Snacks, and regurgitating to much BS! Shame on you, TOM!

  • G.I. G.I. Joe
    8:49 pm on March 20th, 2013 31

    #28 Tom wrote,

    …the video of US MP’s beating on the South Korean citizens for “illegal parking” in front of their own property has been widely viewed by everybody here and in the ROK.

    I have seen a video that depicts beatings as you claim. Please provide a link.

    #29 Tom wrote,

    Another perfect example:
    Last year when the American black English teacher who assaulted an old man and few others, in a bus that became infamous Youtube TV. He was let go after he apologized, and continued to teach at the same school. Did anyone complain the foreigner was not treated fairly? Of course not. He wasn’t punished at all, yet where’s the cries of Koreans getting unfair justice?

    Who did he assault? The video does not show assault; the video shows a waegukin yelling at a Korean. Impolite? Maybe. Criminal? No.

  • G.I. G.I. Joe
    8:51 pm on March 20th, 2013 32

    #31 above “I have seen a video…” should be “I have NOT seen a video….”

  • Smokes
    8:59 pm on March 20th, 2013 33

    Tom @ #28:
    Once again you ignore what’s been asked and blab on about something else.
    Show me someone getting beat. Show me someone getting beat. Show me a single person getting beat or shut your GD trap about it. The best you could probably do is link to a video of a crowd all pushing each other. That’s not a beating, that’s a gaggle-f**k.

    Considering you couldn’t understand what I meant about the KNP’s authority in this situation I’ll explain: This occured while performing offical duties. The SP wasn’t out partying or touring the city. They were performing security rounds, quite absofu**ing-lutely within the scope of offical duties. Therefore jurisdiction is 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% USFK’s, any Koreans who don’t like it need to ensure that gets reworded in the next draft of the SOFA otherwise sit there sucking on a corncob-on-a-stick cause that’s too bad.

    This isn’t your usual English Teacher Contract that’s about a reliable as a piece of toilet paper that gets tossed into the trashcan instead of the toilet bowl, it a Status of Forces AGREEMENT, that means the Koreans agreed to the terms. Get that through the 6″ plate in your skull and stop bitching about something you don’t understand and aren’t the least bit involved in, Canadian.

    Go make me some waffles with delicious maple syrup while I watch some NHL.

  • comfortable.chairs
    9:03 pm on March 20th, 2013 34

    Tom – apples and oranges.

    You want a fair comparison? Show us where a US Soldier stabbed someone and got away with it.

    I don’t care if it was justified or not, self defense or attempted murder – show us a single instance of a US soldier stabbing/cutting/slicing/wounding a person, and getting away with it. Fact is, one of those guys that was stabbed ended up having surgery! I’m not even asking for an injury as serious as that – any instance where a US soldier used a knife and got off.

    The other examples don’t mean a thing.

    Fact – Korean police are liable for ANY injury they inflict on a prisoner. A law designed to prevent the police excesses of the 80′s – assault, torture, and murder of suspects. Want to compare those cases? Show us an example of a Korean man pushing a cop down the stairs and getting convicted of it.

    The Osan airmen – how was the SOFA violated? Where is the video showing the assault? I’d like to see that. Link please?

  • Smokes
    9:04 pm on March 20th, 2013 35

    GI GI Joe @ #31:

    Just to show I’m not as Tom claims. I’m pretty sure I saw that video of the guy on the bus. He got out of control and should’ve gotten a court date for assault. As I didn’t see any blogs carrying it at the time and only had the video to go on I didn’t know what led to it, or what resulted from it.

    Unlike Tom I don’t like going on blogs and running my mouth about things I don’t know anything about which is why you won’t find any comments from me on that incident.

  • SHAGGY & SCOOBY
    9:13 pm on March 20th, 2013 36

    @31 The guy on the video thought that the elderly man, that he was tripping on, dropped the N-Bomb. But what the elderly man had said to him was basically, “you can sit down here”, in Korean. One of the Korean words that the elderly man said to the guy sounded like the N-Bomb which led him so show how ignorant he really is. Also, yes he should have been thrown under the jail cell for acting in that manner and kicked out of the country.

  • truth
    9:37 pm on March 20th, 2013 37

    Anyone who has spent time in the Korean nightlife knows how to recognize the GIs from the English Teachers and other foreigners working for Korean companies like Samsung and Hyundai. The GIs more often than not are obnoxious, aggressive, and look for trouble. No Korean night club manager would cause a scene and disrupt business unless forced into doing so. These 20 year old GIs are starting trouble and anyone who has lived in Korea can attest to this.

  • Smokes
    9:55 pm on March 20th, 2013 38

    37: Generalize much?

  • Smokes
    10:01 pm on March 20th, 2013 39

    36: Ahh… I remember that one now. All too often I’ve had soldiers ask about that and I explain that 니가 even though it sounds like “nee gah” doesn’t mean what they think it means. (It means “I”)

    Even though he misunderstood, people can’t react that way to the spoken word. Most are brought up on the old “sticks and stones” saying.

  • Tom
    10:04 pm on March 20th, 2013 40

    Yes yes any time GI’s gets away with crime against Koreans, then that’s because they were innocent. Any time a Korean gets away with crime, then it’s because the police are racist. :roll: GI/ESL teacher LOGIC at it’s finest. :roll:

    OK, let’s get away from the Osan MP beat down and mad English teacher on the bus incidents for a minute here. Then answer these questions for me and really think about these:

    1. Why did the GI who fled from police in a high speed chase through Seoul and who injured the policeman with his car not get charged with a more serious crime, other than just dangerous driving?

    2. Why did the GI who threw a policeman down a stairway (of all places, in a police station!), injuring the policeman’s leg, just because the police asked him to leave, not get charged with assaulting a police officer?

    3. Why did the GI who punched out a policeman and broke his glasses in Hongdae bar while resisting arrest, not get charged with assaulting a police officer which should be good for at least several months in jail?

    4. Go back to that 2005 GI knife incident that GI Korea talks about. What was the GI who was wielding the knife at the crowd of Koreans get charged with, and how much actual prison time did he serve? What was the actual punishment in the end? Could it be zero?

    5. Finally, why are there now over 38,000 American soldiers in the ROK in 2012, when the number had been reduced to 28,000 in 2005? This doesn’t look like the US is about to leave at all.

    5.

  • Tom
    10:10 pm on March 20th, 2013 41

    I’ll answer my own questions with one sentence.

    Because the Korean police are giving the USFK every break they can ever get because they’re under pressure from the Korean government not to make the US upset so that they threaten to leave South Korea.

    There’s only one summary that I can conclude with.

    1. Korean police are cowards.
    2. Korean government are traitors.
    3. GI/ESL teachers are just cry baby whiners with silver spoons in their mouths.
    4. Korean people are the ones who get short changed.

    :roll:

  • Gerno
    10:13 pm on March 20th, 2013 42

    There is CCTV footage of the whole thing that shows the GI’s HELPING the drunk Filipina up off the sidewalk. Then it clearly shows them with their hands up after the Korea bar owner took the knife away from the SGT and started weilding it and started after the GIs. That is why there are no charges against the GIs and only the Korean bar owner is being charged. Also, why the story is now dead in the Korean press. The video was shown to all the commanders and SNCOs in the area on Monday. Since then, nothing from the Korean press.

  • Tom
    10:15 pm on March 20th, 2013 43

    Anyone heard of that American in California who should have been extradited to South Korea for the 1997 Burger King murder? Let me think, what was his name? Oh yea, “Patterson”.

    Let me know when he was extradited to South Korea because the last time I heard, over a year ago, everyone said he was going to be extradited. I ain’t heard anything about that since, nor any complaints about justice not being carried out. Did anyone hear anything about that fellow?

  • Tom
    10:23 pm on March 20th, 2013 44

    Gerno, let me know which Korean newspapers you read that lead you to that conclusion.

    Oh yea, that’s right. You can’t read Korean but you’re such an expert of Korea already. That followup to that story was all over the Korean media. It’s as funny as a Chinese immigrant who doesn’t speak or read/write a lick of English declaring how much he knows about what American media says. Hillarious. :lol:

  • Smokes
    10:30 pm on March 20th, 2013 45

    Given that Tom’s refusing to answer I’ll assume his ass is too sore. Come back anytime; Canadian.

  • gg525252
    12:10 am on March 21st, 2013 46

    sterben qualvoll, baekinje

  • Bobby Ray
    1:16 am on March 21st, 2013 47

    That gg525252 fellow is a bit of a scoundrel but he is thankfully a scoundrel of few words.

  • Baek, In-je
    5:25 am on March 21st, 2013 48

    Du sterben qualvoll, chosinjean sheiss kompf.

  • Leon LaPorte
    6:12 am on March 21st, 2013 49

    noH QapmeH wo’ Qaw’lu’chugh yay chavbe’lu’, ‘ej wo’ choqmeH may’ DoHlu’chugh lujbe’lu’

  • Glans
    7:00 am on March 21st, 2013 50

    Alle Menschen werden Brüder, wo der sanfte Flügel der Freiheit weilt.

  • Tom
    7:10 am on March 21st, 2013 51

    DELETED

  • Onezime
    8:13 am on March 21st, 2013 52

    #44,

    You’ve proven time and time again that you can’t read or write Korean, so buzz off little 똥파리.

  • Onezime
    8:14 am on March 21st, 2013 53

    #51,

    Takes one (fascist) to know one.

  • CPT_Ennui
    8:38 am on March 21st, 2013 54

    Just providing my take…

    the videos you guys request:

    american assaults an old man: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JABqFPNympk

    @31 I agree with Tom, the american clearly assaults the old man at 1:08 mark.

    Osan SP Handcuffing Incident: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-avfw8UqyS0

    I can’t say if he was “beaten” but the SP can be seen clearly detaining and getting physical at 0:33 mark

  • CPT_Ennui
    9:31 am on March 21st, 2013 55

    @39
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL8hV-zjJ_4

    Chinese have that word too 3:16 mark.

  • guitard
    1:05 pm on March 21st, 2013 56

    Smokes wrote:

    All too often I’ve had soldiers ask about that and I explain that 니가 even though it sounds like “nee gah” doesn’t mean what they think it means. (It means “I”)

    “니가” means “you.”

    The actual spelling for it is “네가” – although it is sometimes colloquially spelled “니가.”

    The reason it is pronounced “니가” as opposed to “네가” is because of the word “내가,” which means “I” or “me.” Since “네가” and “내가” are basically pronounced the same – but have opposite meanings – Koreans (naturally) changed the pronunciation of one of them to avoid confusion.

  • guitard
    1:14 pm on March 21st, 2013 57

    Just a quick addition to my previous post – the reason why changing the pronunciation of “네가” to “니가” is so noteworthy is because it’s extremely unusual in the Korean language to pronounce vowels differently than the way they are spelled.

  • 1488hh588285
    1:53 pm on March 21st, 2013 58

    希望你最終肢解 baekinje

  • Smokes
    4:21 pm on March 21st, 2013 59

    56: That’s funny because 9 out of 10 Koreans polled (like as in right now, here in this office) all agreed that 니가 is indeed “I”. Actually it’s more like 5 out of 5 polled but I like the sound of “9 out of 10″. They looked at what you wrote and said “close but no”.

  • Smokes
    4:27 pm on March 21st, 2013 60

    54: Thanks for the relink. As I remembdered there was no beating. Some shoving and detaining but no beating. Case closed, Tom remains the resident liar. :)

  • guitard
    6:31 pm on March 21st, 2013 61

    Google for “니가 네가 내가”

    http://www.italki.com/question/83463
    http://ask.nate.com/qna/view.html?n=6442008
    http://ask.nate.com/qna/view.html?n=377335
    http://k.daum.net/qna/view.html?qid=470sx
    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110227173958AAdfbkx
    http://lang-8.com/281063/journals/989907/%25EB%2584%25A4-%2528%25EB%258B%2588-or-%25EB%2584%25A4%253F%2529
    http://www.italki.com/question/124265

  • jim
    8:16 pm on March 21st, 2013 62

    59, sorry bro.

    it’s a contraction thing.

    나 (i, me) + 이/의 -> 내 (i, me, mine)
    너 (you) + 이/의 -> 네 (you, your(s))

    내/네 sound ridiculously similar (even to koreans) that indeed, the pronunciation was shifted towards the 니 to mean “you”. very common phrase when spoken from older people to younger people and between friends.

  • Smokes
    8:38 pm on March 21st, 2013 63

    Whatever drop it, you are all obviously dense to sit there and argue with what locals say. There’s enough to argue about on here.

  • jim
    9:46 pm on March 21st, 2013 64

    57, have you noticed the trend towards pronouncing 오 as 우?

  • Leon LaPorte
    10:16 pm on March 21st, 2013 65

    63. Or the very long trend of pronouncing “F” as “P”? :lol:

  • Baek, In-je
    11:15 pm on March 21st, 2013 66

    You really have to appreciate the Korean “logic” behind the decision.
    They are so transparent, obvious, predictable, obtuse, clueless, ad nauseum, ad infinitim.

  • rob Jones
    11:30 pm on March 21st, 2013 67

    What is name of the Club.. I have not read it anywhere yet……

    I will be sure not to spend and money there…

  • guitard
    11:53 pm on March 21st, 2013 68

    Smokes wrote:

    you are all obviously dense to sit there and argue with what locals say.

    Here’s some examples from an online dictionary I like to use:

    니가 집을 갖게 되어서 기뻐
    I’m very happy for you to get a home.

    나는 단지 니가 알아야 한다고 생각했어
    I just thought you should know.

    니가 지지해 주면 어떤 일이든 할 수 있지.
    Your support can make miracles happen.

    니가 내 인생에 있어서 참 행운이야.
    I’m so lucky to have you in my life.

    니가 한 말 취소해
    Take it back.

    니 태도 참 겁난다.
    Your attitude scares me.

    Are you a native-born American?
    니 오리지날 미국인이냐?

    Do you know it by heart?
    니 그거 외우고 있니?

    그건 니 팔자야.
    That’s the life you were given.

    니가 여기에 있었으면 좋겠다.
    Wish you were here!

    니가 그 여자를 찼니, 아님 그 여자가 널 찼니?
    Did you break up with her, or did she break up with you?

    니 삐삐에 음성을 남겼어.
    I left a voice message on your pager.

    난 니 얼굴만 봐도 알 수 있어.
    I can tell by the look on your face.

    http://dic.impact.pe.kr/ecmaster-cgi/search.cgi?kwd=%B4%CF&bool=and&word=yes

    Now . . . tell us again . . . who is dense?

  • Bobby Ray
    12:35 am on March 22nd, 2013 69

    Good grief Rob Jones that is a darn good question. The name of that there drinky bar looks to be more classified than them B52 run over Korea. Its sure looking like that boy has him some big connections with honchos on both sides of that gate.

  • Leon LaPorte
    12:56 am on March 22nd, 2013 70

    68. At 33, more like his daddy or employer has pull. It did say he was a bar “manager” not a bar “owner.” (at least in a couple stories) Big difference…

    In TDC a “manager” usually is more in line with bouncer, in the big clubs.

  • travis domanski
    10:11 am on March 22nd, 2013 71

    first off, south korea is not a 3rd world country………..

  • Baek, In-je
    5:51 pm on March 22nd, 2013 72

    @71,
    Sure it is. Ignorant populace? Check. Garbage thrown everywhere? Check. Kangaroo court? Check. Unprofessional police force? Check. Strange backwoods superstitions (fan death)? Check. Dog eaters? Cheak. Barbarism (beating a dog before killing it makes the meat sweeter)? Check. Dodgy national airline? Check.

    The list goes on. This is a 3rd world country.

  • TheKorean
    9:06 pm on March 22nd, 2013 73

    [Deleted by Moderator Sock Puppet]

  • Baek, In-je
    10:55 pm on March 22nd, 2013 74

    You want to see American culture? It is on every street in Seoul. It’s a poor copy of it, but it’s there. Now go buy something you don’t need and can’t afford on credit card you can’t pay off, and stop talking to me. I don’t talk to ajosshis.

  • Bobby Ray
    2:05 am on March 23rd, 2013 75

    I read TheKorean’s blog and I done learned a lot and my Korean gal done backed up what he said but lately he has been more interested in trying to shoehorn all them facts into whatever politics he is pushing and it is a shameful waste of darn good talent and a loyal following and its spoiling the definitive source of accurate information on Korea that’s got itself a bit of a favorable slant.

    This here Baek fellow is a bit of a scoundrel no doubt but you don’t fight no scoundrel by pushing an equally steaming pile of cow pucky or you start sounding like a scoundrel yourself.

    Now you asked does America even have culture?

    Best I can tell from reading them history books, Korea barely had anything with wheels 60 years back but they sure ate up America car culture. Last time I was there the number of McDonalds and KFC and all them chain family restaurants and their weakwilly Korean copies was overrunning all them street carts and orange tents and such. Heck they was even passing laws to protect them dying Korean traditional markets from them American style big box stores where everybody was flocking to. And them stores had more types of traditional American candy then they did kimchee. Then when I turned on the radio they wasn’t playing a thing with them fingernail and chalkboard Korean instruments in them traditional chingychongy scales. It was all electric guitars playing them American rock and blues notes or a bunch of dolled up kids jumping around like a boy band right out of 1990 America or a bunch of sneering hip hoppers rapping like them coloreds right out of an American ghetto. Not a one of them glass building in Seoul had a bit of Asian flair to them. They all done looked like they was ripped right out of American skyscraper design textbook version 1.0 and the countryside was getting itself filled with houses like they thought they was living in Nantucket. Aint nobody smoking one of them long Korean pipes cause they is all using American cigarettes and they drinking budweiser and Korean copies like it aint going to get made no more. Most all the art I done saw looked like it was copying western style and a lot of it for sure had American themes running all round in them. About nobody was wearing a stitch of hanbok and about everybody was wearing bluejeans and shirts with crazy sounding english scribbled all over them. They was watching all them Broadway plays in Seoul and dying to send their kids to American schools. The movie theaters were filled with American movies and Korean copies of them. And the TV shows was all copies off whatever format they was turning out in America bout 8 months too late. Them hanyack places were hard to notice but them big American style hospitals filled with big American style medical equipment were all over the horizon. There wasn’t no Korean shamanism going on either but I was tripping over big American churches everywhere. I couldn’t find no potbingsoo or hobokyat shops but there was 31 flavors of ice cream in every part of town. Everybody was playing that American Starcraft fighting American alien stereotypes without one evil tokkabi to be found. They was gobbling up pizza and coke and it was American pizza not like what I had over there in Italy cept they put corn and sweet potato goop on it so I guess it don’t count as American no more. Good lord I can go on and on. I was sort of wondering what happened to Korean culture.

    So Korea done took American transportation and interior design and architecture and clothing and food and entertainment and medical and art and music cultures and pretty much threw away all their own except keeping it around as a bit of a curiosity and you have yourself the nerve to say America don’t have no culture. America done changed the world in 200 years with their culture and Korea done spent 5000 years of intense cultural development to present the world with Gangnam Style.

  • Glans
    3:35 am on March 23rd, 2013 76

    Bobby Ray, anything American they like is modern. Anything modern they don’t like is American.

  • TheKorean
    5:22 am on March 23rd, 2013 77

    [Deleted by Moderator Sock Puppet]

  • kangaji
    8:16 am on March 23rd, 2013 78

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTT9MT0rMhU

    Psy uses “니가” as “you”+Topic with the word “Champion” as in…
    “You – the champion” with the Beverly Hills Cop them (African American music) as a background. He is slightly overweight.

  • Sonagi
    8:38 am on March 23rd, 2013 79

    “Bobby Ray, anything American they like is modern. Anything modern they don’t like is American.”

    Nice one, Glans.

    TK is right about the US having no culture. That is why we attract so mnay immigrants. No culture, no culture shock since there are nounspoken rules of communication and interaction. No culture with a capital C either. No native musical genres, no literature of international acclaim, no distinctive architecture, no inspirational speeches. Only ancient, exotic countries profiled on Natuonal Geographic or Discovery have culture.

  • guitard
    9:27 am on March 23rd, 2013 80

    kangaji wrote:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTT9MT0rMhU

    Psy uses “니가” as “you”+Topic with the word “Champion” as in…
    “You – the champion” with the Beverly Hills Cop them (African American music) as a background. He is slightly overweight.

    Hey!! Another member joins Smokes’ “ROK Drop Dense Club.”

    Speaking of Smokes . . . he’s been awful scarce around here the last few days. Must be lost is a ‘dense’ fog of Smoke.

  • Bleedthefreak
    11:47 am on March 23rd, 2013 81

    “Bleedthefreak, please foad already”

    You first, you can do it better.

    Why not complain Tom? That’s what Koreans do about everyone else, you’d know this if you actually lived in Korea, but don’t and probably haven’t.

    One of my favorite things was when Tom said something to the effect that Korean guys don’t brag about their sexual conquests! Talk about not knowing anything!

    The simple fact of the matter is, despite existing racism against Koreans in the US, they still are treated better and have more mobility there than minorities have, or probably ever will have in Korea.

    Well, at least until a half black, half Korean person gets elected as the president of South Korea. Think that will happen anytime soon anyone? The Korean? Tom? Anyone?

  • Bleedthefreak
    11:55 am on March 23rd, 2013 82

    Couldn’t find anything but came across something interesting. ROK has a military presence in Kyrgyzstan and the two nations entered into a Status of Forces Agreement. Get this; ROK servicemen have COMPLETE immunity for any wrongdoing the may do in this nation! Funny, huh? CinD

    What do you have to say about this Tom and other Koreans. Any crimes committed by a ROK soldier may never be known. Why don’t you blab on about this? We all know why you probably won’t.

  • Bobby Ray
    5:36 pm on March 23rd, 2013 83

    Well there TheKorean I reckon if you is wrong an ain’t got nothing right smart to respond with a joke will have to do but before you go trying to brush the whole thing off you might consider who is more foolish. Is it the fool or the fool who follows the fool? Korea cant get itself enough of that obese culture of fastfood and African-American music. 

    It’s a darn shame to see how TheKorean done declined from his position of knowledge and moral authority. He used to be above all the riffraff arguing about stupid stuff. Now he done climbed off his perch and decided to wallow with the hogs saying crazy things like America ain’t got no culture no better than that scoundrel tom. I’d put my money on a high stress lifestyle and a growing substance abuse problem to make a fellow change his behavior like that. Take a break son. Go back to talking up honest knowledge about Korea to the misinformed and leave the politics and stupid talk to the scoundrels.

  • guitard
    9:30 pm on March 23rd, 2013 84

    The_Korean and TheKorean are two different people.

  • Baek, In-je
    1:12 am on March 24th, 2013 85

    I can’t understand where the confusion comes from due to the fact that South Koreans have such differing opinions and personalities from each other. I am so confuse.

  • Antony
    11:04 am on March 25th, 2013 86

    I don’t believe you

  • The QiRanger Podcast - Episode 2013.1
    6:37 pm on March 30th, 2013 87

    [...] GI Bar Fight. After an altercation, several GIs involved in a bar fight. The bar owner then stole one of the soldier’s knives and proceeded to stab three individuals with it. Rather than facing assault charges, he’s facing a lesser bodily injury charge. http://rokdrop.com/2013/03/20/korean-man-who-stabbed-gis-will-not-face-assault-charges/ [...]

 

RSS feed for comments on this post | TrackBack URI

By submitting a comment here you grant this site a perpetual license to reproduce your words and name/web site in attribution.

Bad Behavior has blocked 36572 access attempts in the last 7 days.