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ROK Drop Open Thread – May 5, 2013

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  • guitard
    4:42 am on May 5th, 2013 1

    I wonder . . . why is it that when you walk around Nam-dae-mun and Dong-dae-mun markets . . . you see so many Chinese tourists . . . at a place mostly selling things made in China?

    I understand that a lot (almost all?) of them are from Taiwan and Hong Kong. But aren’t Taiwan and Hong Kong selling the same Chinese-made stuff – maybe even cheaper than Korea?

  • Glans
    6:16 am on May 5th, 2013 2

    The Norks say Bae Jun Ho entered the country with a disguised identity, and they have no intention of inviting any famous American to take him back. I don’t know how to link to the KCNA story, so here’s the ‘big story’ at the AP.

  • tbonetylr
    6:18 am on May 5th, 2013 3

    Part of the article is below -
    Cheating on Standardized(English) Tests ‘Rampant’
    http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2013/05/03/2013050301160.html
    TV hosts, staff of major business conglomerates and elite university students are among scores of Koreans accused of cheating on standardized English-language tests.
    The revelations come on the heels of an investigation into alleged leaks of SAT questions that have prompted the U.S. College Board to cancel the test scheduled for this Saturday in Korea.

    Police are also considering informing the employers of the suspected cheaters.

    Prof. Jung Keun-sik of Seoul National University said they were probably victims of Korea’s rampant culture of competition and focus on paper qualifications. “It is very alarming to see a culture that condones short cuts, evasion of the law and even criminal acts to achieve goals,” he added.

  • tbonetylr
    7:05 am on May 5th, 2013 4

    Here is more or better in depth coverage on my previous @3 Korean cheating link.

    What now?
    Koreans are now trying to go to Japan to take the test, if I was Japan I wouldn’t let them take it since Korean students will probably already have the answers.
    http://www.busanhaps.com/article/sat-cancelled-korea-due-continued-leaking-exam-questions
    The Curious Case of Jeffery Sohn
    “Is this simply a case of Sohn twice being in the wrong place at the wrong time? And why was such weight put on the testimony of alleged fellow conspirators? Or, was there pressure applied by the hagwons—one of whom apparently kidnapped Sohn and severely beat him in 2010 when he tried to abandon their employ?”

    Korean Cultural Traits: What Exactly is “Plagiarism”?
    Regardless, Korea’s obviously on a hard-fought drive towards playing within the boundaries of international norms. And yet, there is a documented increase in the lack of will by the education establishment to address the “tradition” of copying another’s work.
    A survey conducted earlier this year found 86.3 percent of the Korean professors responding that they would “criticize, but quietly handle the issue” of discovered plagiarism amongst their colleagues, while 62.6 percent said they would “pretend not to know” rather than raise the issue.

    Interestingly, the number of respondents who said that they would “pretend not to know” increased by more than five times when compared to a similar survey conducted in 2001.
    While cultural relativist will argue that this “tradition” is neither good nor bad, but simply what it is, the fact remains that the world is moving in a different direction and Korean authorities want to see it on that path.
    And how this continuing watershed of questionable scholastic ethics will affect the millions of Korean students pursuing study abroad remains to be seen, but, suffice it to say, the world’s leading colleges will be looking with even greater detail at applications that originate from the peninsula.

  • Glans
    8:57 am on May 5th, 2013 5

    Elsewhere in Asia, the Iranian presidential campaign is about to begin. ROK Droppers of course know that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is not a dictator, and that the highest leader is actually Ali Khamenei. But the new president might be less annoying than Ahmadinejad. Maybe the new guy will find a way to use nuclear energy in a transparent way that doesn’t raise concerns about weapons. I’d like to know how Iran’s North Korea policy will evolve, but the big story doesn’t say a thing about it.

  • Glans
    4:10 pm on May 5th, 2013 6

    Elsewhere in Asia, Islamists have burned the Communist Party office in Bangladesh. Farid Ahmed and Josh Levs report for CNN.

  • jim
    8:20 pm on May 6th, 2013 7

    1,
    japanese more likely. shopping sprees are cheaper in seoul than tokyo, even when airfare is factored in.

  • Jake
    8:23 pm on May 6th, 2013 8

    This is how a China vs Philippines will look like in photos

    http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/oYSXNbunKUP7fLs3ftCg_Q–/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD03MjA7cT04NTt3PTUzNA–/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/Reuters/2013-05-06T051147Z_909674558_GM1E95610K001_RTRMADP_3_PHILIPPINES.JPG

  • Glans
    3:31 am on May 7th, 2013 9

    Senator Saxby Chambliss, Republican of Georgia, playing golf with President Obama, shot a hole in one. Adam Aigner-Traworgy has the story at CNN.

  • Flunky Brewster
    4:11 am on May 7th, 2013 10

    FWIW, this is done by Korean teachers or staff and many Korean mothers do request that their children, especially boys, be disciplined for bad behavior or bad grades.

    http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2013/05/116_135213.html

    ‘Hagwon’ teachers to be banned spanking students By Nam Hyun-woo

    Education authorities will crack down on “hagwon” or private institutions allowing their teachers to impose corporal punishment on their students.

    The Seoul Metropolitan Office of Education (SMOE) said Monday that many private teachers continue to physically discipline students in breach of the Juvenile Protection Act.

    It has therefore decided to file complaints with law enforcement authorities against teachers who violate the law as well as sanctioning institutes found to be culpable.
    The SMOE said it has since served official notice to the schools.

    The SMOE’s latest move came after a series of recent cases were reported to the police.

    In May of last year, a teaching assistant at a private academy was accused of assaulting an 11-year-old student. The assistant was fined 500,000 won.

    Some parents privately condone corporal punishment in private institutes believing it will spur students to study harder.

    An official at the SMOE said, “Corporal punishment is strictly forbidden in both the public and private educational sector. The office will strengthen its crackdown on violent discipline.”

  • kangaji
    6:47 am on May 7th, 2013 11

    Han Kyoreh provides an awesome humor piece by “US Expert” Joel Whit about how talks with North Korea could work and how the provocation cycle doesn’t match with reality.
    http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_northkorea/586275.html

  • Avatar of GI KoreaGI Korea
    8:05 am on May 7th, 2013 12

    I debunked Joel Witt’s claims a couple of weeks ago:

    http://rokdrop.com/2013/04/26/should-the-us-try-the-engagement-strategy-with-north-korea-once-again/

    It is amazing the lengths the engagement crowd will go to rewrite history.

  • Dan
    5:24 pm on May 7th, 2013 13

    I need some help. My brother Andre Michael Fisher is set to be released from prison and I need to know who I could contact to see his exact release date. Any help would be appreciated! Thank you for any help on this matter.

  • guitard
    6:01 pm on May 7th, 2013 14

    jim wrote:

    1,
    japanese more likely. shopping sprees are cheaper in seoul than tokyo, even when airfare is factored in.

    I speak Japanese fairly well and while I know those places are also crawling with Japanese – they are also crawling with Chinese.

  • tbonetylr
    8:20 pm on May 7th, 2013 15

    UN human rights special rapporteur(Margaret Sekaggya) will be here so maybe some English teachers/members of civil society will show up to speak with her?
    ‘S. Korea to be visited by UN human rights special rapporteur’
    http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_international/586278.html
    “The term “human rights defender” encompasses a wider range of people than “activists,” including all those who are working to protect and promote human rights.
    This will be the first time a UN special rapporteur concerned with the situation of human rights defenders has visited South Korea. The groups at the meeting noted the significance of the occasion.

    The fact that a special rapporteur is visiting South Korea despite its being one of 47 member states of the UN Human Rights Council shows that South Korea’s legal and institutional practices are not protecting human rights defenders,” they said.

    …Civic groups planned to deliver a report from the meeting to Sekaggya. The special rapporteur is planning to stay in South Korea until June 7, during which time she will meet with human rights defenders who suffered repressions, associated government agencies, and members of civil society. After surveying the situation, she is scheduled to submit a report on the findings to the UN Human Rights Council.”

  • Glans
    4:03 pm on May 8th, 2013 16

    ‘Sgt. 1st Class Naida Hosan is not a Muslim — she’s a Catholic. But her name sounded Islamic to fellow U.S. soldiers in Iraq, and they would taunt her, calling her “Sgt. Hussein” and asking what God she prayed to.’

    She complained, and the Army began disciplinary procedures – against her. She fought back, and the Army relented. She has re-enlisted, and she hopes to put this all behind her. Michael Biesecker has the Big Story.

  • tbonetylr
    4:49 pm on May 8th, 2013 17

    ‘Medicare fraud allegations: National nursing home chain accused of billing for excess care’ $4.2 billion(Video)
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57583404/medicare-fraud-allegations-national-nursing-home-chain-accused-of-billing-for-excess-care/
    “Half-a-dozen former employees tell “CTM”(CBS This Morning) that the company is giving patients rehab they don’t need, and billing the government for money they’re not entitled to.
    …According to court documents, investigators found that from 2006 to 2011, Medicare paid Life Care $4.2 billion. In 2008, it “…billed nearly 68 percent of its Medicare rehabilitation days at the [highest] level,” almost double the “nationwide…average of 35 percent.”

  • tbonetylr
    6:29 pm on May 8th, 2013 18

    Doug Bandow is correct, some tidbits below.
    South Korea: Close Friend Of The U.S., And A Defense Welfare Queen
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/dougbandow/2013/05/06/south-korea-close-friend-of-the-u-s-and-a-defense-welfare-queen/
    “For 60 years the U.S. has defended the ROK. The “mutual” defense treaty is mutual in name only. Washington defends the South. Seoul does not defend America.”

    “…Moreover, South Korea is well able to defend itself, in contrast to 1950. Even if Seoul is improbably believed to be an essential ally, it does not require U.S. defense subsidies.”

    “…This policy obviously is no bargain for America: the South underwrites the military of the nation against which the U.S. is prepared to go to war. In return, Washington receives marginal assistance from the ROK in conflicts the U.S. should not be fighting.
    The strategy looks equally dubious for the South. Complained Edward Luttwak, “South Korea has matched the North’s bellicosity with its own strategic perversity: It remains obsessed with an utterly unthreatening Japan and has been purchasing air power to contend with imagined threats from Tokyo as opposed to the real ones just north of the demilitarized zone. Seoul is simply unwilling to acquire military strength to match its vastly superior economy.”

    “…If the ROK wants to be treated like a grown-up, it should act like one.”

  • Flunky Brewster
    2:39 am on May 9th, 2013 19

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wbNh7eDAF-U#!

  • Flunky Brewster
    2:45 am on May 9th, 2013 20

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvYyGTmcP80

  • Leon Laporte
    2:48 am on May 9th, 2013 21

    Green Day’s Billie Joe Armstrong On Psy: ‘This Dude Is The Herpes Of Music’

    Taking to his Instagram account, Armstrong posted a picture of K-pop star Psy, and what he had to say about the “Gangnam Style” hit-maker was far from congratulatory.

    “This dude is the herpes of music,” Armstong wrote. “Once you think it’s gone, it comes back.” The Green Day singer also added a series of hashtags: #herpes, #flarup and #pleasegoaway.

    http://news.radio.com/2013/05/08/green-days-billie-joe-armstrong-on-psy-this-dude-is-the-herpes-of-music/

  • Flunky Brewster
    2:50 am on May 9th, 2013 22

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RqJ93dTino

  • Flunky Brewster
    2:56 am on May 9th, 2013 23

    Dennis Rodman And Kim Jong-un’s Friendship Put To The Test Over American Detainee

    http://beijingcream.com/2013/05/rodman-and-kims-friendship-put-to-the-test-over-american-detainee/

  • Leon Laporte
    3:05 am on May 9th, 2013 24

    I suspect KJI ‘did him a solid’ this morning… and then wiped his rodman.

  • Leon Laporte
    3:06 am on May 9th, 2013 25

    Oops, KJU* – flashback

  • Flunky Brewster
    3:17 am on May 9th, 2013 26

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqZTyMRVbCw

  • Flunky Brewster
    3:21 am on May 9th, 2013 27

    26- Huge brawl breaks out at some hippie rally for more dope. The best part is about 48 seconds in when some freaky dude breaks his guitar over another hippie’s head. Peace and love!

  • Glans
    3:47 am on May 9th, 2013 28

    Flunky Brewster 26 and 27 – those were colored folks wearing white masks.

  • Flunky Brewster
    3:52 am on May 9th, 2013 29

    28- Someone bogarted the joint?

  • tbonetylr
    6:10 am on May 9th, 2013 30

    CNN Video on Koreans cheating cont. from comments #3 and #4. The CNN video and article unsurprisingly doesn’t talk about the Korean cultural tradition of cheating in S. Korea like the Busan Haps in comment #4.
    http://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/09/world/asia/south-korea-exam-scandal/

  • Bobby Ray
    6:27 am on May 9th, 2013 31

    Glans I reckon I’ll see your whiteboy fight at a dope rally and raise you a shooting at a dope rally.

    “They described the first suspect as a black man who is about 6 feet tall and weighs around 180 pounds.”

    “The second suspect was described as a black man wearing a black-and-white checkered shirt.”

    http://www.examiner.com/article/three-shot-at-denver-s-4-20-marijuana-festival

    If you want to look at the animal tendencies of folks you need to take a gander at that worldstarhiphop site. Its a shame that people behave that way in public and a lot of it to innocent people on the street instead of just a bunch of reeferheads fighting among themselves.

  • Glans
    6:42 am on May 9th, 2013 32

    Bobby Ray, you could be right. Maybe those boys are Koreans who’ve had some work done.

  • Bobby Ray
    9:07 am on May 9th, 2013 33

    Glans Im thinking the only things you got in your bag of conversation tricks is sarcasm and stupidity.

  • John in NY
    9:48 am on May 9th, 2013 34

    #13 Didn’t Andre himself say it was June 19th?

  • Jake
    2:21 pm on May 9th, 2013 35

    Taiwan claims Filipinos shot at a Taiwanese boat and killed a Taiwanese

    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2013-05/09/c_124689353.htm

    Phillipine officials claim, however:

    Sought for comment, officials of the Navy, Coast Guard and Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources said they have not received any such report, a news account in Taiwan said.

    “If warships were involved in such an event, we would be the first one to receive the news,” the report quoted an Armed Forces of the Philippines officer as saying.

    The report also quoted a Philippine official as saying, “The incident happened in waters far away from the shore. We don’t have any ship over there.”

  • Jake
    2:22 pm on May 9th, 2013 36

    link for source above

    http://www.ellentordesillas.com/2013/05/10/taiwanese-fisherman-killed-after-fired-upon-by-ph-navy-chinese-media-report/

  • MTB Rider
    5:03 pm on May 9th, 2013 37

    Are we about to have a purge up north?

    http://news.yahoo.com/did-female-north-korean-traffic-cop-save-kim-131837941.html

    You don’t get the “Hero of the Republic” Award for passing Uniform Inspection. Something happened, and apparantly KJU hasn’t been seen in public for two weeks. And I’ve noticed the Propaganda Train has been slowed for refuelling for about the same amount of time…

    http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2013/04/nobodys-seen-kim-jong-un-publically-two-weeks/64206/

    (Sorry if this comes out as a Double Post, but the first one vanished. I added the KJU not seen in public for two weeks in the second attempt)

  • kangaji
    5:29 pm on May 9th, 2013 38

    President Park address to congress

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_bGvybq89E

  • kangaji
    5:30 pm on May 9th, 2013 39

    She sounds equally as monotone in Korean…

  • kangaji
    5:54 pm on May 9th, 2013 40

    http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/south-korean-president-proposes-peace-pa/668126.html

    She proposed a peace park on the DMZ while addressing Congress…
    interesting

  • tbonetylr
    7:01 pm on May 9th, 2013 41

    Hospital Prices No Longer Secret As New Data Reveals Bewildering System, Staggering Cost Differences
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/08/hospital-prices-cost-differences_n_3232678.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
    “The Obama administration shared the data in advance with The Huffington Post, The New York Times and The Washington Post. What emerges through a preliminary analysis is a snapshot of an incoherent system in which prices for critical medical services vary seemingly at random — from state to state, region to region and hospital to hospital.”

  • tbonetylr
    7:04 pm on May 9th, 2013 42

    This Video Of One Half-Second Of High Frequency Trading Is Insane, Terrifying
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/09/video-half-second-high-frequency-trading_n_3245999.html?ref=topbar
    “You have no idea just how bonkers high-frequency trading is making the stock market until you actually see it in action.

    A terrifying new video by the research firm Nanex offers just such an opportunity: It shows one half-second of trading in just one stock, boring old Johnson & Johnson, on May 2. The video slows down the trades so that the milliseconds — thousandths of a second — tick slowly by, and so that human eyes can comprehend what’s happening.
    What you see is trading gone haywire, hopelessly beyond the control of any regulators that might want to make sure all of these trades are legitimate. This flood of trading confuses even other machines, creating mismatches in orders that high-speed traders can exploit, millisecond by millisecond”

  • JoeC
    8:24 pm on May 9th, 2013 43

    President Park Fires Spokesman

    The rumored reason for his firing, mentioned on TBS eFM radio, was that he groped a young Korean female aid brought on for the U.S. trip.

  • John in NY
    9:40 pm on May 9th, 2013 44

    #42, yup. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-10-02/why-high-frequency-trading-will-never-go-away

 

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