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Avatar of GI KoreaBy on May 29th, 2013 at 3:14 am

So Now Adultery is Sexual Assault?

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That appears to be what the Stars and Stripes is claiming in this article:

The Army is investigating the commander of a battalion at the nation’s primary missile-defense base for condoning sexual affairs at the remote facility in Alaska, creating what subordinates called a “toxic environment.”
The service already was looking into the commander at Fort Greely, dedicated to defending the U.S. from incoming missiles, for promoting a World War II-style pinup calendar with photos of his wife and scantily clad female soldiers.
The investigation involving Lt. Col. Joseph Miley, the commander of the Alaska Army National Guard’s 49th Missile Defense Battalion, was confirmed in an e-mailed statement by Marco Morales, a spokesman for the Space and Missile Defense Command, who declined to discuss details…….

At Fort Greely, fraternization increased and enlisted soldiers seemed to get favorable treatment from officers for trading sexual favors because no disciplinary action was taken in cases of adultery, according to one of the three people, who said they spoke on condition of anonymity because the Army had forbidden them from discussing the allegations. (Stars and Stripes)

If you read the rest at the link you will see that the S&S links this case to the current sexual assault issue. It is ridiculous to equate adultery with rape. In the civilian world adultery is not even a crime. I think the S&S has probably given the special interests another idea of how to further inflate sexual assault statistics by including adultery as well.

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  • Liz
    3:54 am on May 29th, 2013 1

    Here is another article from Bloomberg. Apparently this is serious enough to warrant Senate attention:

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-05-27/affairs-on-alaska-base-need-full-inquiry-senators-say.html

    I have been in units with crappy commanders who did create a toxic environment in one way or another (including this one), but I don’t think it should be a subject for headline news. If his ostensible ‘permissiveness “show a serious loss of focus on the missile defense mission that is critical for the safety of all Americans” what does undermining the authority of a commander with a public excoriation do for that mission? If he is guilty, at least rescind his command before the public excoriation….if not, trial by press is a great way to promote “show a serious loss of focus on the missile defense mission that is critical for the safety of all Americans”.
    WHy is the world so full of retards?

  • Liz
    4:18 am on May 29th, 2013 2

    Intended to say a great way to promote “a serious loss of focus on the missile defense mission that is critical for the safety of all Americans” in the last bit above.
    Miss that edit button…

  • Dean S. Robinson
    5:25 am on May 29th, 2013 3

    I reckon the Army has changed a lot since I was in (’78-’81). While at Goodfellow AFB for Intel Analyst school, it was nothing more than a college environment. Lots of young ladies and lots of young men and quite a few ‘regional bachelors’. Should adultery still be considered a crime in the military? Or is this more about fraternization and abuse of position? Over the past ten years, there have been quite a few combat zone relationships, for the excuse of being ‘so far away’ etc.
    In reading that article, it sounds like someone has either a case of the morning after or there’s a ton of fraternization…

  • Liz
    6:44 am on May 29th, 2013 4

    I think the Senators should concern themselves with the use of transfats in the military. Clearly commanders are creating an environment toxic to good health in a nation where transfats should be discouraged. Preferably a huge, fat Senator should get up and speak about that.

  • jake
    9:12 am on May 29th, 2013 5

    They should be worrying about the chinese compromising us military defense technology over adultery…

  • setnaffa
    2:22 pm on May 29th, 2013 6

    America is living out Romans 1:18-32… :-(

  • Leon Laporte
    3:49 am on May 30th, 2013 7

    6. A fantasy written in the Iron age and mistranslated (and edited for political and worldly reasons) over thousands of years?

    enough silliness (although even a broken clock is right twice a day)

    Anyhoo, the feminists will not be happy until a soldier even glancing indirectly at a woman is sexual assault, all while the female is walking around naked and intoxicated.

    /cause they’re equal

  • Louis Dechert
    9:05 am on May 30th, 2013 8

    ITEM IN ARMY TIMES EARLY BRIEF 05.30:
    “Odierno: Continued Cuts Could Make Army Too Small
    (Stars and Stripes) – Defense budget chaos and bad assumptions about the future of American warfare could result in an Army thats too small to do its job, Army Chief of Staff Gen. Ray Odierno said Wednesday.”

    DUH!!! The Army has been too small since 2001–and has been severely cut under Odierno-Dempsey-Obama malfeasance.

    BUT!! Not too small to devote upwards of 20,000 troops to the revised and then re-revised crusade against sexual assaults brought on by demoralization in a war without commitment to victory, and insane attempts to recreate men and women contrary to their Makers design.

    GOD help us!

    LTD

  • William
    9:36 am on May 30th, 2013 9

    There is ZERO way adultery or fraternization is sexual assault. However, there are no doubt some sexual assaults happen in this settling like others such as dates.

    A CDR public condoning fraternization and pin-up calendars is CERTAINLY guilty of sexual harassment for sure though.

    A CDR who condones adultery, OMG! If it is between officer/enlisted or SGT/Soldier within units then it is clearly Fraternization, which is one of the toxic elements in the military. Who wants to be in a unit where there is rampant favoritism that goes along with the frat biz?

    The talk in the article about the sexual assaults has zero to do with the issue, but it highlights the current problems of the sexual assaults and the attention it is bringing.

  • Liz
    10:19 am on May 30th, 2013 10

    #9: “A CDR public condoning fraternization and pin-up calendars is CERTAINLY guilty of sexual harassment for sure though.”

    This is the investigation stage. All speculation with minimal to no facts available. Can that type of thing create a toxic environment? Definitely. Was it really a problem in this case? We don’t know. Neither to the politicians, neither does the media that is throwing this commander’s judgement into question and with it his authority, respect, and reputation. If he’s guilty, take away the command and then they can feel free to spout poetic (though the thought of politicians impugning a lax stand on adultery is so ironic nails and bolts weep). Wasn’t long ago those same folks were applauding Kelly Flynn on 60 minutes and demanding the military stay out of the soldier’s bedrooms.

    Per the pinup calendar, that has spouse club fundraiser written all over it. I don’t know, definitively if that is the case, but I just don’t envision a bunch of dudes sitting around and saying, “hey, know how we can raise money? We’ll take pictures of our wives and female colleagues and sell the calendars!” Was it the booster club (or whatever they would call the fundraising group attached to the unit in the army) or was it a bunch of bored wives and friends living in an isolated environment (this community is tiny, and snowed in a great deal of the time lving in darkness) wanting to get their egos massaged and call it a fundraiser? Again, we don’t know.

  • Louis Dechert
    11:45 am on May 30th, 2013 11

    RE: LIZ#10 “the pinup calendar that has spouse club fundraiser written all over it. I don’t know, definitively if that is the case, but I just don’t envision a bunch of dudes sitting around and saying, “hey, know how we can raise money? We’ll take pictures of our wives and female colleagues and sell the calendars!”

    That was the case investigated and written up months ago and reported in ARMY TIMES.

    It was exactly what LIZ has said–a wives’ club fund raiser. There was no impropriety charged–as an experienced commander through brigade level, I would have come down hard on the stupid judgment displayed by the command, but it’s another generation that we are dealing with.

    Another point raised by LIZ was alluded to in the final report of the calendar incident: it is an isolated post and there appear to be a lot of friends and neighbors (maybe the mobilized country club and chamber of commerce) in the Guard living in the area serving in the unit; the commander is a guardsman, as I recall.

    No aspersions intended, but you most certainly have to take all that into consideration in the situation under review–something the commanders with SCM and GCM authority certainly did at the time–and which Boxer, et al, want to tear up the entire UCMJ to “correct” (sic!!).

    By the way, Dempsey was just shown commenting on TV about the Russian shipment of US-defeating air defense means to SYRIA. Made me wonder what expertise he (or anyone else in DOD) has to approach that subject–he needs to get back to their overwhelming social engineering assignments, pampering the ugly babes and befuddled males in the Congress!

    LTD

 

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