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Korean Court Hears Details About Drunken Brawl In Dongducheon Ville

Here are the drunken details of what supposedly happened during the rumble in the Dongducheon ville three months ago that led to multiple 2nd Infantry Division soldiers being stabbed by a Korean national:

A U.S. soldier and a Korean bar owner were in court Friday for their roles in a March 16 brawl outside a Dongducheon nightclub, a melee in which three soldiers were stabbed.

During Friday’s proceedings in Uijeongbu District Court, wildly different versions of exactly what happened during the 6 a.m. fight — which pitted a half-dozen U.S. soldiers against the bar owner, another U.S. soldier and the soldier’s wife — in The Ville outside Camp Casey.

Club owner Lee Chang-hon, and Spc. Paul Noel are facing trial for “violating the act on the punishment of violence” for their parts in the brawl. Lee allegedly stabbed the three soldiers, and Noel was allegedly the most aggressive member of the group of soldiers during the incident.

According to police, everyone involved had been drinking before the fight broke out.

Abby Yu, the Philippine wife of U.S. Staff Sgt. Min Yu, told the court that she was walking with Lee on her way to join her husband at their car when one of the soldiers grabbed her shoulder and twice told her she was “pretty.”

Saying she was scared by the soldier’s aggressive actions, Yu said she told the soldier that Lee was the nightclub’s owner, and tried to direct the group to a nearby bar where they could find attractive Filipinas. Almost immediately, she said, a fight broke out between Lee and the soldiers, and her husband brought a knife and aluminum baseball bat from their car and joined the fray, handing the bat to her.

Abby Yu said she found herself in a “life-or-death situation.”

“They attacked,” she said. “They were coming to hurt us. Even if we try not to fight or we fight back … we’re going to get hurt.”

Spc. James Robert Lassack, who was with Noel’s group, countered that the trouble began when Abby Yu fell and was helped up by the soldiers.

“She even said ‘thank you,’ ” he said. “There was no way to misinterpret helping a woman up.”  [Stars & Stripes]

You can read the rest at the link, but obviously someone is lying or was to drunk to remember the details of what happened.  Regardless if the situation was reversed and a US soldiers stabbed multiple Korean nationals does anyone think they would not be tried for attempted murder?  Just ask John Humphrey.

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  • Fanwarrior
    6:10 am on June 8th, 2013 1

    “There was no way to misinterpret helping a woman up.”

    really? All depends on where your hands are when you help her up. It’s one of the oldest tricks in the book.

  • Tom
    6:22 am on June 8th, 2013 2

    So they were harassing her sexually and molesting her and her husband was just defending her. :roll:

  • Bremondtigers
    6:53 am on June 8th, 2013 3

    So what club did the Korean own?

  • tbonetylr
    8:21 am on June 8th, 2013 4

    According to S. Korean law Abby Yu’s story won’t help because defending yourself(swinging a bat and hitting someone) is against the law.

    But I’d bet the Korean wins in the end because the Korean is Korean and only Korean testimonies are true. He gets a slap on the wrist for stabbing an American soldier and walks. Is it true that only one Korean has ever been found guilty of a crime against an American soldier and had to spend time in jail as a result?

  • TheBlondeHairedblueeyedKorean
    8:30 am on June 8th, 2013 5

    Since Tom is such an expert about what it’s like to live in Korea, he can answer any questions about Korean law and the legalities of this case. Please Tom, explain the finer points to us all.

  • Smokes
    12:59 pm on June 8th, 2013 6

    “which pitted a half-dozen”
    Since when is four a half-dozen?

    Maybe S&S is just going along with the lying theme that usually accompanies Korean court cases.


  • Glans
    1:10 pm on June 8th, 2013 7

    Four is a third of a dozen.

  • LarryJ
    2:06 pm on June 8th, 2013 8

    The same writer is probably confused when trying to buy a dozen eggs at the local stores in Korea. (eggs are sold at 10 to a carton) :lol:

  • Glans
    4:05 pm on June 8th, 2013 9

    Ten is five sixths of a dozen.

  • Leon LaPorte
    4:34 pm on June 8th, 2013 10

    I think all involved are fibbing to some extent.

    /getting out the popcorn

    3. He doesn’t own a bar. His family does.

  • smitty
    4:48 pm on June 8th, 2013 11

    Yeah, Leon, I figured something had to be up. There was a time when a club would be put off-limits for much less than the owner stabbing a couple of joes.

    I still think something dodgy is up, I’m just not sure what it is. This whole thing is highly unusual and the official response to it is even more unusual.

  • LarryJ
    4:49 pm on June 8th, 2013 12

    “I didn’t want to hurt anybody,” she said. “I didn’t want to get hurt. I was hoping they would listen and they would stop.”

    Instead she said, her husband was beaten by the group, and one of the soldiers hit her repeatedly with the bat.

    I wonder if there are pictures to prove that she was hit with the bat.

  • Fanwarrior
    7:28 pm on June 8th, 2013 13

    #4 Self-defense is actually in Korean law, and there have been recent cases where it was used as a defense.

  • Bobby Ray
    8:07 pm on June 8th, 2013 14

    There aint no mystery here. Them boys just got friendly with a drinkygirl and her husband told them whatfor. They didnt like that talk and closed in for some chestthumpin. He was outnumbered and evened things up with a knife and a bat. Everything went to heck as they are likely to do in such cases.

    I reckon everybody there knows it was just a bunch of drunks and lowlifes bickering over nothing and wishes it would all go away. Is awful strange how secret they is keeping the tavern name. You think if a fellow involved in one of them taverns cant hold his temper and dont think much of stabbing around on some of his customers after a pretty minor disagreement, maybe a place like that aint too safe for them soldiers and they shouldnt be going there.

  • tbonetylr
    9:25 pm on June 8th, 2013 15

    @ 13,
    Duh, as Abby Yu is using it as her defense in this case.

  • Fanwarrior
    9:46 pm on June 8th, 2013 16

    #15 are you really that dense or is it just something you’re trying out today?
    There are other cases where it has been used, and succeeded as a defense. I think it was last year some drunk old guy tried to harass some young girl by looking up her skirt or something and her boyfriend fought the older guy off and the young guy was able to use self-defense successfully.


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