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Avatar of BillBy on July 17th, 2013 at 4:52 am

Senator says suggests US boycott Winter Olympics in Russia over Snowden

Somebody should give Lindsey Graham a refresher course in late Cold War era history.

President Obama should consider boycotting the 2014 Winter Olympics in Russia if the Cold War-era foe gives asylum to Edward Snowden, Sen. Lindsey Graham told The Hill on Tuesday.

“I would. I would just send the Russians the most unequivocal signal I could send them,” Graham (R-S.C.) said when asked about the possibility of a boycott.

“It might help, because what they’re doing is outrageous,” he said. “We certainly haven’t reset our relationship with Russia in a positive way. At the end of the day, if they grant this guy asylum it’s a breach of the rule of law as we know it and is a slap in the face to the United States.”

Snowden, who has been charged with espionage for leaking details about two National Security Agency programs that collected information about U.S. telephone calls and international Internet usage, officially filed a request for temporary asylum in Russia on Tuesday. He pledged to abide by Russian President Vladimir Putin’s demands that he stop leaking information that could damage the United States.

Graham is the first senator to suggest a link between the Olympics and Snowden, who has been holed up in a Moscow airport for weeks.

Other lawmakers also suggested Obama should respond sternly if Russia offers Snowden asylum, although they were more hesitant to suggest boycotting the Olympics.

“There’s many things we can do, but I think the experience of canceling the Olympics the last time around wasn’t very good,” said Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), a close ally of Graham’s.- The Hill

It wasn’t a good experience. We boycotted the 1980 Moscow Olympics due to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan? What did it accomplish? Nothing except the Soviets retaliating by boycotting the 1984 Los Angeles Olympics deny many athletes a chance to compete in these games.

Doug at OTB who wrote- ‘Indeed, it strikes me that the only people hurt by a boycott would be the American athletes who’ve trained all their lives for what will be, for many of them, their one chance to play at the pinnacle of their sport. Meanwhile, the U.S. will just look foolish.’ I concur.

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  • STEVEN J. FROMM, ATTORNEY, LL.M. (TAXATION)
    6:05 am on July 17th, 2013 1

    Another out of touch Senator making idle and stupid threats. The only people impacted here are the athletes training and working so hard for their one chance to compete. Ridiculous and pointless proposal.

  • Liz
    7:02 am on July 17th, 2013 2

    WWRD (what would Russia do)? Not boycott the olympics.

    Sometimes I like to pretend and tell myself there are actually smart people in Washington behind the scenes doing smart things while the public is distracted by the stuff they purposely throw out for public consumption. I know this probably isn’t true. But it’s a comforting thought.

  • Glans
    7:30 am on July 17th, 2013 3

    Attorney Fromm, we don’t have an extradition treaty with Russia. Besides, if the roles were reversed, would we send the guy home?

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    I submitted this comment a few minutes ago, but it disappeared. I wonder why.

  • Bob
    7:42 am on July 17th, 2013 4

    reminds me of when we were a bunch of kids playing baseball in some sandlot.
    Some kid didn’t like the call on him (out) by a referee. The kid took his ball and went home. The game was over because that was the only ball we had!!!!
    These senators really need to grow up!!

  • guitard
    7:52 am on July 17th, 2013 5

    Sen. Graham is a smart guy. Maybe he’s just trying to plant a seed in Putin’s head. Who knows . . . maybe just the suggestion of the US pulling out would be enough to make Putin decide it ain’t worth it . . . and he tells Snowden to get lost.

  • Liz
    7:56 am on July 17th, 2013 6

    #3: I think that was a different thread, the older one.

  • Sonagi
    8:12 am on July 17th, 2013 7

    Senator Graham is a smart guy who is planting seeds in the heads of Republican voters angry about his cooperation with Dems on immigration reform. He needs to shore up his conservative credentials to ward of any primary challengers in 2014.

  • Glans
    8:35 am on July 17th, 2013 8

    Putin speaks:

    “Bilateral relations, in my opinion, are far more important than squabbles about the activities of the secret services.”

    “We warned Mr. Snowden that any action by him that could cause damage to Russian-American relations is unacceptable for us.”

    A lawyer helping Snowden, Anatoly Kucherena, has given him a children’s Russian book.

    Denis Dyomkin and Alexei Anishchuk report for Reuters.

    Volodya isn’t yielding to pressure from our senators. He’s just using his common sense.

  • Bob
    9:36 am on July 17th, 2013 9

    they should just send snowden off to Venezuela, they said they’d take him.
    that or Cuba, or NORTH Korea!!

  • Glans
    10:38 am on July 17th, 2013 10

    Bob, that can happen as soon Venezuela gives him political asylum.

  • Bob
    12:12 pm on July 17th, 2013 11

    Glans,
    I thought they (Venezuela) already said they’d give him asylum.
    If he has to be on their real estate, I’d think all he would have to do is go over to their embassy. That is considered Venezuela’s property if I am not mistaken.

  • Glans
    1:48 pm on July 17th, 2013 12

    Bob, to get to the Venezuelan embassy, Snowden would have to enter Russia.

  • Bob
    2:28 pm on July 17th, 2013 13

    Do you mean to tell me the ROOSKIES won’t let him walk across town to the embassy??

  • Glans
    3:25 pm on July 17th, 2013 14

    Bob, the Russkies have explained that they’ll consider political asylum if he’ll stop damaging their Amerikcansky partners. The games of the “special services” are fun, but good relations are more important.

  • Bob
    3:30 pm on July 17th, 2013 15

    I would think the Russkies and the Chinese got all the information that Snowden has with him. He’s obviously not worth much to them or else he wouldn’t be hanging out in the airport.

  • Avatar of Leon LaPorteLeon LaPorte
    4:39 pm on July 17th, 2013 16

    He is not worth it. Why ruin the dreams and ambitions of dedicated young athletes who may only have one chance to participate in something they have dedicated most of their lives to?

    Mr. Snowden, henceforth Snowed-in, at a minimum has built a prison of future lifetime regret from where he can never escape – regardless of where he ends up. Would you like to be at the tender mercies of Vladimir Putin or a south American dictator for the rest of your life? And, that is the least of his worries. I can tell you that no Russian will respect a traitor like Snowed-in. He will have an unpleasant time of it if he stays there. Russians consider love of country (not to be confused with love of government) and family to be of utmost importance.

    Additionally, what will he do for a living. His knowledge has a short useful shelf life and I doubt it to be all that deep or specific. A couple of good well structured debriefings and he has shot his wad. Also, Putin has made his approval of Snowed-in’s request contingent on the boy shutting his purdy mouth.

    I suspect that the only reason they are not expediting him is due to the US still having the possibility of the death penalty on the books. (Though I think Snowed-in deserves it, we all know the US would simply lock him up.) Capital punishment in Russia has been indefinitely suspended, although it is legally allowed. There exists both an implicit moratorium established by the president and an explicit one, established by the nation’s highest court. Also, the regulations of the Council of Europe prohibit such punishment at any time in the future. However, the death penalty still remains codified. Countries that do not use the death penalty generally do not extradite to countries which do. I’d be willing to bet there are some Russians serving life sentences in Russian prisons who would likely prefer the death penalty.

    So, when Snowed-in’s 15 minutes are up, what will he do? Become a ward of the state? Perhaps some form of beefed up Russian welfare payments and a very small, rundown, Soviet era one room apartment? Good luck with that boy.

    Not to mention accidents happen all the time, especially in Russia…

  • Liz
    5:06 pm on July 17th, 2013 17

    #16: I’m reminded of the “release” of Somali pirates on a leaky raft, in the middle of the Pacific, without a paddle, navigation or communication device (but no death penalty, it was a release!).

    I agree. He should have taken a few minutes to study history and culture before deciding where to park his derrière. I’m sure he was hoping for a lucrative book deal, at least. Perhaps some speaking engagements. He probably still is.

  • Liz
    5:22 pm on July 17th, 2013 18

    This might ultimately be unifying for our countries. Russia can serve as a home for wayward narcissistic overpaid millenial douches and we can send them money to expand their airport.

  • Glans
    5:53 pm on July 17th, 2013 19

    Speaker Boehner thinks boycotting the Olympics is a bad idea. Here’s the AP story at USA Today.

    John Boehner and Leon LaPorte: great minds.

  • Leon LaPorte
    7:28 pm on July 17th, 2013 20

    19. I was dry eyed the entire time.

  • Leon LaPorte
    7:30 pm on July 17th, 2013 21

    19. Wow, just red it and the was eerie! Anyway, all I can say about Mr. Boner is even a broken clock is right twice a day.

  • Ole Tanker
    7:45 pm on July 17th, 2013 22

    Snowden! just send in a spy with a poison umbrella pin.:)

  • Bob
    7:53 am on July 18th, 2013 23

    Amazing, Boner (Boehner) said something right for a change.
    He must have unintentionally screwed up somehow!!! :shock:

  • Glans
    5:32 pm on July 19th, 2013 24

    The FISA court has renewed the government’s authority to run one of the telephone surveillance programs leaked by Snowden. The Office of the Director of National Intelligence is working to declassify information on programs partially disclosed by Snowden. Deborah Charles reports for Reuters.

 

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