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Picture of the Day: Yes! East Sea No! Sea of Japan

New York state Senator Tony Avella puts on a blue T-shirt that reads “Yes! East Sea No! Sea of Japan” before holding a news conference in New York on Feb. 12, 2014 (local time). Avella announced his plan to present a bill on using the name East Sea alone for the body of water between South Korea and Japan. (Yonhap)

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  • Bill Streifer
    2:29 pm on February 18th, 2014 1

    As an American: If a body of water touches a country, few nations would stand for it, if it was named for another country entirely. In this case, however, that body of water extends over to Japan. Nevertheless, it should be called the “East Sea,” at least out for some distance away from the shore of Korea; The number of miles to be determined by some neutral body such as the United Nations. To repeat: To call it the Sea of Japan is ridiculous, and not to acknowledge that it runs along the entire Korean peninsula is equally ridiculous.

  • Conway Eastwood
    3:07 pm on February 18th, 2014 2

    Replace a Japan-centric name with a Korea-centric name? Yes, very objective!

  • Bruce K. Nivens
    3:15 pm on February 18th, 2014 3

    The name East Sea only has a proper context from the Korean point of view. It is the sea to the east of Korea. From a global perspective, the name loses its meaning. I understand the historical and political issues behind this dispute, but Sea of Japan is more indicative of the water’s location. Since it has historically been Sea of Japan, just show it in textbooks and maps as “Sea of Japan (East Sea)” or “East Sea (Sea of Japan).” Both names have meaning to someone, so use both of them. This is not worth fighting over.

  • tbonetylr
    3:36 pm on February 18th, 2014 4

    American dbag becomes S. Korea’s #1 clown. :roll:

  • Leon LaPorte
    3:40 pm on February 18th, 2014 5

    As our legislators grapple with these, the most compelling issues of our time, we must realize they have a full plate! Next up:
    East China Sea
    South China Sea
    Philippine Sea
    Java Sea
    Greenland Sea
    Sea of Galilee
    Indian Ocean

    I do not envy them.

    Also, we need to change the Gulf of Mexico to Gulf of America (or perhaps South Gulf if we are feeling nice that day). There is good reason, just like the Korea and Japan example, we have fought numerous wars with Mexico, and we won… Oh wait a minute… :roll:

  • Smokes
    4:14 pm on February 18th, 2014 6

    Why in the holy f**k are Demoslobs being allowed to waste time dragging America into something it has no business being in? I get it he’s from NYC the a**hole capital of the US but keep it within the city limits and get Avella’s stupid gaping maw off the internet.

    Another impact of the Dashification of America©.

  • guitard
    4:27 pm on February 18th, 2014 7

    Smokes wrote:

    Why in the holy f**k are Demoslobs being allowed to waste time dragging America into something it has no business being in?

    I’m going to to out on a limb here . . . and guess that a quick look at a list of his campaign contributors will show . . . a half dozen Kims, 3-4 Lees, 2-3 Chois, 2-3 Parks, a Kang or two, and a Han, Yu, Min, Kwak, No, etc., etc., etc.

  • Leon LaPorte
    4:44 pm on February 18th, 2014 8

    7. * DING * DING * DING *

    We have the best government representation money can buy!

  • Smokes
    4:46 pm on February 18th, 2014 9

    Wouldn’t surpsie me at all, also based on the banner behind him this is a “we need to strengthen our _____-american base” gimmick.

    If uniforms and restrictions on using your position to make a statement are good for the military then it should be good for the wh0res of the senate with thier t-shirts, pins, and ribbons.

    “wh0res of the senate”… I feel like an extra in some movie based in ancient Rome. :o

  • MTB Rider
    4:53 pm on February 18th, 2014 10

    How about the Gulf of California? I take that as a sign we should just annex Mexico!

    And let’s grab Canada while we’re at it! And Belize, because it was once known as British Honduras, and the U.S.A. has a historical precidence with Great Britian. And as long as we are getting British Honduras, lets add regular Honduras as well.

    The best part is, once we own Canada, we can deport Tom the ROK Drop Troll to the Korea of our choice!

  • Smokes
    4:57 pm on February 18th, 2014 11

    We can’t take Canada it’s our front yard and the Canadians do a good enough job at keeping it looking nice, Toms and Beibers aside.

    Now Mexico… yeesh… yeah our back yard’s a sh*thole. Probably should water that lawn a little and pick up the poop.

  • Leon LaPorte
    5:25 pm on February 18th, 2014 12

    HMMMM…

    An attack occurred in 2007 in his district (Douglaston), on four Asian males by two white males (one with a pending criminal case on charges of assaulting an elderly man with a claw hammer), in which racial slurs were used by the white males. In a news conference Avella convened with religious and community leaders, he referred to the two perpetrators as “neanderthals”. “I don’t think I’ve ever used that word before,” he said. “But it fits them.” Avella blamed developers for increasing the tension in his district.

    Anyone want to wager the Asian males might have been Korean?

    New York District 11 has significant Jewish, Irish-American, Russian-American, and Italian-American populations. But: “…area in which Koreans are highly concentrated is Queens Community District 11…”

    I see, said the blind man. Also, this bill on the East Sea includes language inserting the comfort women issue into textbooks.

    I also cannot help but note (as I always do with our “representatives”) that Mr. Avella was born in 1951 and graduated from college in 1974. I do not see military duty in his biography. At 61 years old he should have been a prime candidate for Vietnam service. What’s the deal there?

  • guitard
    5:36 pm on February 18th, 2014 13

    Mr. Avella was born in 1951 and graduated from college in 1974. I do not see military duty in his biography. At 61 years old he should have been a prime candidate for Vietnam service. What’s the deal there?

    Born in ’51 . . . so he probably got a student deferment in 1969 . . . strung out four years of college into five years . . . and voila . . . draft ends in ’73 . . . and in ’74 he walks away from college a free man.

    Minor point: if he was born in 1951, he is at least 62 years old.

  • Leon LaPorte
    6:03 pm on February 18th, 2014 14

    13. OK 62. :roll:

    Anyhoo, my point being I question the true commitment and motivations of those who want to “serve” in government with all the benefits (bribes), easy money, stature and influence yet couldn’t bring themselves to serve in the military in their youth (draft or voluntary).

  • Rammy
    6:17 pm on February 18th, 2014 15

    Sea of Japan – historically used name
    East Sea – east of Korea/west of Japan = pro Korea

    If the Koreans really want to change it they can’t expect it to be a them-specific name. A more neutral idea is the East Asian Sea. Both are a part of East Asia and we keep the “Sea” in there as well! Everyone’s a winner!

  • ChickenHead
    6:40 pm on February 18th, 2014 16

    There was a time when we could make fun of Korea for all the East Sea Madness and smile in the knowledge that American politics were above such petty thinking.

    That time has passed.

    Now, America is not only infected with that type of thinking… it is infected with that ACTUAL thinking.

    East Sea Madness is obviously a communicable disease.

    Quick! Burn it with fire before it spreads further.

  • Bill Streifer
    6:42 pm on February 18th, 2014 17

    A quick history lesson: Until the end of WWII, Korea was a colony of Japan, and completely under Japan’s thumb before that. So having a sea named after Japan slamming into your coast every three minutes may be a grim reminder of the past.

  • Leon LaPorte
    7:04 pm on February 18th, 2014 18

    17. Golly! None of us were aware of that fact! Thank you.

    I must ask then, why are there so many Japanese sushi restaurants and Japanese cartoons on TV?

  • tbonetylr
    7:06 pm on February 18th, 2014 19

    NY has 600 local school districts, it’s up to them not the state edu. dept., that’s the good news(see para 7 & 8).
    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/02/12/nyregion/a-debate-in-new-york-over-the-name-of-a-sea-between-japan-and-the-koreas.html?_r=0&referrer=

  • Smokes
    7:16 pm on February 18th, 2014 20

    If they’d of just listen to my advice and renamed it the Silky Sea this would all be in the past. Silky Sea… goes down smooth. :cool:

  • guitard
    8:47 pm on February 18th, 2014 21

    Call it the Han-Il Hae (한일해) or the Il-Han Hae (일한해).

    한 = Korea
    일 = Japan
    해 = Sea

    Do a coin flip to see which country name comes first.

    Problem solved.

  • Bob
    8:48 pm on February 18th, 2014 22

    #17,

    Are you aware of the fact that if Japan wasn’t there, the body of water east of Korea would be the Pacific Ocean?

    Also aware of the fact that Korea was under China’s thumb for centuries, and yet nobody’s complaining that the body of water west of Korea is named the South China Sea?

  • King Baeksu
    9:01 pm on February 18th, 2014 23

    Why does this whore’s shirt say “No! Sea of Japan”? That has been the internationally accepted name since the 19th century.

    He is obviously not an impartial actor here. I question his integrity — as well as his sanity.

  • ChickenHead
    9:56 pm on February 18th, 2014 24

    “Call it the Han-Il Hae (한일해) or the Il-Han Hae (일한해).”

    Silly Guitard. That won’t solve anything.

    Then the fight will be over Ni-Ko Desu (にコです) or Ko-Ni Desu (コにです).

  • tbonetylr
    10:03 pm on February 18th, 2014 25

    #23,
    If this keeps up Jon Stewart, Colbert(CNN?) will have to cover this stupid shiit story/people even though they want to avoid it like the plague knowing they’ll get vicous, disturbing, and threatening tweets, emails, etc…by Koreans.

  • guitard
    10:08 pm on February 18th, 2014 26

    Bob wrote:

    Also aware of the fact that Korea was under China’s thumb for centuries, and yet nobody’s complaining that the body of water west of Korea is named the South China Sea?

    Bob – you must have flunked world geography back in high school! Maybe there was a couple of hot chicks sitting near you and you were more interested in their geographical features (mountain tops and valleys) then you were in the lecture.

    The sea between Korea and China is known as the Yellow Sea (황해(黃海) by both Korea and China, as depicted in both the Chinese and Korean Wikipedia pages:

    http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%BB%84%E6%B5%B7
    http://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%ED%99%A9%ED%95%B4

    The sea south of the Yellow Sea (basically south of Korea – and between China and Japan) is called the East China Sea.

    The South China Sea to which you made reference in your post is south of China, between Vietnam and the Philippines.

    On Korean maps, you will sometimes see the Yellow Sea called 서해 (西海), which means West Sea. But by and large, in Korea, it is known as the Yellow Sea.

  • John Nowell
    11:15 pm on February 18th, 2014 27

    I concur with #26. The Yellow Sea is on the west coast of the Korean peninsula and the East coast of China. Hwang-hae (Yellow Sea) in the Korean Language. The title of Sea of Japan doesn’t acknowledge the Korean Peninsula in the name although both nations border that body of water. Perhaps we should call it the Northeast Asian Sea (between Japan and Korea). The body of water is shared by both nations, therefore East Sea only pertains to Korea and Sea of Japan only pertains to Japan. Northeast Asian Sea would be more appropriate. (a little modification on suggested name by #15.)

  • King Baeksu
    11:35 pm on February 18th, 2014 28

    What do the following names all have in common?:

    PARK, KWANG N – $2,000.00
    PARK, IRWIN – $1,500.00
    HAN, TAEK SUN – $1,000.00
    YOUNG, KIM WOO – $500.00
    YOONS BROTHER CORP – $500.00
    MUN, JAMES – $500.00

    Source: http://votesmart.org/candidate/campaign-finance/45056/tony-avella#.UwRPKq4tbVo

  • guitard
    11:53 pm on February 18th, 2014 29

    Well . . . I at least got the “2-3 Parks” part right.

  • Smokes
    11:56 pm on February 18th, 2014 30

    Nice find Baeksu. Man that cat’s one union lapdog.

  • Leon LaPorte
    12:00 am on February 19th, 2014 31

    28. A perfect illustration of the problem with our whore “representatives.”

  • Smokes
    12:34 am on February 19th, 2014 32

    hey hey hey! Stay in character if you’re going to do the “whore” thing…. it’s was Roman-themed I believe…

    [Leonidos LaPorteus of the Curfew Islands has the floor]
    My fellow RokDropians, I doth believe some in this very Senate do suckle at the golden teat like Whores of Verithia! :evil:

    [Magistrate Smoketh of the Joketh]
    Good Leonidos that be talk most traitorous! Calm thyself and bathe your mind in reason! :shock:

    [King Baeksu of the Virtuous Kimbap]
    How now can one look upon the Drop of Rok with naught but scorn!? The people of the Kimbap most Virtuous will only accept blood as moral repayment! To war, WAR I SAY! :twisted:

  • King Baeksu
    1:17 am on February 19th, 2014 33

    “Friends, Rokdroppers, Countrymen! Lend me your ears!

    “I come to bury the name ‘East Sea,’ not to praise it.

    “The evil that the Nutizens do speak lives after them forever online; the good is oft interred in their basement bedrooms.

    “So let it be with Senator Avella himself.”

  • Avatar of Leon LaPorteLeon LaPorte
    1:50 am on February 19th, 2014 34

    We are talking about an American politician here. It’s possible this dumbass thinks this is about the Atlantic Ocean.

  • James w, Bolt [40 yards[
    9:35 am on February 19th, 2014 35

    LHUA Here we are up to our hair line with debt and this — is worried about something that has nothing to do with the USA GPH sign 40 yards

  • Setnaffa
    9:45 am on February 19th, 2014 36

    There’s no downside for the politician. His campaign guys are happy, the bill can have no actual impact on other countries whether passed or not, and it being NY, no GOP candidate is likely to challenge him on this choice. Not to mention it takes the debate away from the ACA fiasco…

  • King Baeksu
    10:28 am on February 19th, 2014 37

    Looks like the word is out in America:

    “Use of Takeshima by US Causes Uproar”

    “A U.S. state agency’s recent use of both Dokdo and Takeshima as names for Korea’s easternmost islets is creating a diplomatic stir here.”

    “The CRS reports chilled the euphoria of Koreans, who had successfully persuaded many U.S. state legislatures to use both the “East Sea” and “Sea of Japan” for the body of water between Korea and Japan.”

    Source: http://koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2014/02/120_151931.html

    Obviously, American politicians and officials have worked out how easy it is to separate Koreans and Korean-Americans from their cash. Just keep stirring the pot, guys, and we might even solve our national budget deficit!

  • John
    1:36 pm on February 19th, 2014 38

    “Sea of Japan – historically used name
    East Sea – east of Korea/west of Japan = pro Korea”

    What about “Eastern Sea” as a compromise? “Eastern Sea” is a valid English translation of the Korean “동해” (東海). And it is an “Eastern Sea” meaning it is a sea in the eastern part of the world, so it wouldn’t have to conflict with the fact that it’s west of Japan, unlike “East Sea”.

  • Leon LaPorte
    4:31 pm on February 19th, 2014 39

    38. Or they could grow up and accept international conventions which have been in place for centuries. At some point, you just gotta let go, because it’s like gone, man. This ship has already sailed. I wearisome, tiring, and reflects poorly on the Korean national image.

  • Darth Babaganoosh
    4:47 am on February 20th, 2014 40

    39. True. And about those international conventions, why all the fuss about the English names? Where’s the righteous fury for the French (Mer du Japon) or German (Japanisches Meer) or Czech (Japonsko Moře) or Dutch (Japanse Zee) or Romanian (Japonia Mare) or Spanish (Mar de Japón)or Ukrainian (японське море… which translates to Sea of Japan) or a host of other languages who use Japan in their respective names for that sea?

  • Avatar of Leon LaPorteLeon LaPorte
    4:50 am on February 20th, 2014 41

    40. Shhhh!!!! They didn’t know. Thanks, Obama.

  • BIJ
    9:26 pm on February 20th, 2014 42

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mr76nJZ2A0

  • Clawed the fraud
    6:11 pm on February 21st, 2014 43

    The Korean and Japanese lobbyists will dump contributions on any elected official over a name on a map in textbooks that are used in schools thousands of miles away. The jokes on them because American kids don’t read their textbooks, anyway. Put it in a video game or a Justin Bieber video and they’d remember. A textbook? From school? Gimme a break.

 

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