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Avatar of GI KoreaBy on February 21st, 2014 at 4:24 am

Evidence That Yuna Kim Was Robbed Out of A 2014 Winter Olympic Gold Medal

The South Korean media is beginning to report on the 2014 Sochi Olympic figure skating controversy where many believe that defending Olympic figure skating champion Yuna Kim was cheated out of a gold medal by the Russians. You can read more about the controversy at the below link:

Here is the evidence that the Chosun Ilbo was able to dig up that shows that the judging was in fact suspicious:

Figure skating champion Kim Yu-na performed near-flawlessly in both the short and free programs at the Sochi 2014 Winter Olympics on Wednesday and Thursday, but opaque judges’ decisions skewed the result toward her Russian rival.

The Chosun Ilbo obtained a copy of the score sheet and found that seven of the nine judges gave Kim higher marks than Russian figure skater Adelina Sotnikova. But the other two judges not only gave Sotnikova the highest score but by an enormous margin.  [Chosun Ilbo]

You can read more at the link, but I think it is significant that 7 out of the 9 judges rated Kim Yuna higher and yet she lost due to the inflated scores from just two other judges.  So who are these two judges?  Since the scoring by the judges is kept anonymous we may never know, but I would not be surprised if the two inflated scores came from these two judges:

Adelina Sotnikova of Russia celebrates her gold medal in the ladies free skate program during the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games.

Two of their replacements were Ukrainian Yuri Balkov, who was kicked out of judging for a year after being tape-recorded by a Canadian judge trying to fix the Nagano ice dancing competition, and Alla Shekhovtseva, a Russian judge who is married to Russian federation general director Valentin Pissev. The two other new long program judges were from Estonia and France, which was the country that conspired with Russia to try to fix the pairs and ice dancing competition at the 2002 Olympic Games in Salt Lake City.

“The (judging) panel made me wish that the United States and Canada had split up into many different countries,” said choreographer Lori Nichol, who works with Kostner and fourth-place finisher Gracie Gold of the United States, among others. “It certainly was a different panel tonight.”

She was referring to the fact that in the days of the Soviet Union, only one judge represented the entire country, all its republics. Now, judges from several former Soviet republics can be on one panel, as was the case Thursday night.

In other words, the Cold War is alive and well in the Olympic figure skating venue.  [USA Today]

You can read more at the link, but it just seems ridiculous to me that these two are allowed to judge in the Olympics.  One is corrupt and the other has to huge a conflict of interest to be on a judging panel.  Unless the IOC releases who scored what that disproves that these two judges are the ones that inflated Sotnikova scores the controversy is going to linger.  Hopefully reformers challenge the anonymous scoring system because if it is not changed it will only continue to provide cover for possible cheating and leave many people believing once again what a farce Olympic judging can be.
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  • tbonetylr
    5:24 am on February 21st, 2014 1

    THIS is evidence of being “robbed,” but of course when it’s S. Koreans doing the robbing S. Koreans don’t really care. :shock:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJYBV9BXQNY

  • Smokes
    6:36 am on February 21st, 2014 2

    “You remember where the next Olympics are gonna be, they’re gonna be in our country; and we’re going to get even.”

    Remember that.

    Someone said that this was going to be Kim’s last Olympics, well if that’s true then I’ll wager some cash she’s going to either do one more or be “talked into” doing another one at Pyeongchang so the RoK can get even. If I was a figure skater looking to complete at the 2018 games I’d seriously consider skipping it because the gold’s been spoken for. :roll:

  • tbonetylr
    6:38 am on February 21st, 2014 3

    “Someone said that this was going to be Kim’s last Olympics”

    :lol: :lol: :lol:

    She will be skating for S. Korea in 2018 :!: :!:

  • Smokes
    7:19 am on February 21st, 2014 4

    I thought she was kind of young to hang em up unless she was looking to migrate over to TV/movies…

  • Bob
    9:52 am on February 21st, 2014 5

    #1,

    You’re forgetting something very important: Roy Jones should have faced Ray Downey (the bronze medalist) in the finals…and Ray Downey might have won.

  • Bob
    9:54 am on February 21st, 2014 6

    #4,

    To skate like she does, you get a lot of injuries. She wants a break, doesn’t need to prove anything anymore/everybody agrees she’s might be the best woman figure skater ever…but, yeah, will she compete for Korea in 2018? She just might.

  • Louis Dechert
    10:07 am on February 21st, 2014 7

    RE # 4,

    I sure hope that “what goes around, comes around,” and 2018 the home team gets even with awe and wonder! Great skate from Kim Yuna, a young lady in the best sense.

    Louis T Dechert

  • John in LA
    10:17 am on February 21st, 2014 8

    It’s not hard to put the 2 (2 out of 9 anonymous judges favored Sotnikova) and 2 (2 judges who have a questional history) together. I want to see scoring card of the LONG program also.

  • Kai
    10:20 am on February 21st, 2014 9

    Hopefully this means a review by the international skating foundation. How in the world does Russia keep the girl in 4th place after two huge mistakes like that especially with other nations executing a flawless performance.

  • Tom
    10:22 am on February 21st, 2014 10

    Don’t get mad, get even come 2018. This is all out war now. Korea should make sure Russia doesn’t win anything not just in figure skating but also in other events. Also, make sure the US doesn’t win anything either, I want to see the screams of anger in here as well. :lol:

  • Tom
    10:35 am on February 21st, 2014 11

    #1, now care to post about how Yang Tae Yang in 2004 got cheated out of gymnastics gold by the US who added up the points wrong to get the medal for themselves? What were they, dumb? Couldn’t add up simple numbers? Or did they cheat? Or how about Shin Aram, who lost the gold after fighting for 15 seconds, with three tries by the opponent to get the points back, when there was only 1 second left on the clock? Care to post those robberies as well?

  • 2ID Doc
    10:43 am on February 21st, 2014 12

    Tom if you ever leave the basement you live in in Canada and come KY I wanna take you out to dinner. I already have the show watching you post nonsense here. :)

  • Tom
    10:45 am on February 21st, 2014 13

    Sorry, I don’t eat Kentucky Fried Chicken. That’s crap junk. :lol:

  • InContext
    11:18 am on February 21st, 2014 14

    “You remember where the next Olympics are gonna be, they’re gonna be in our country;…”

    Wouldn’t surprise anyone. Not hard to forget 2002 WC. :lol:

    Hey, where are the death threats from Koreans?

    “Sorry, I don’t eat Kentucky Fried Chicken. That’s crap junk.”

    WOW!!! You aren’t actually pulling crap out of your rear end for a change. :lol:

  • John in NY
    11:50 am on February 21st, 2014 15

    #12, all of Canada is mom’s basement. :grin:

  • InContext
    12:05 pm on February 21st, 2014 16

    Most of it would really be an attic to the US wouldn’t it?

    My question about the threats are answered.

    http://www.smh.com.au/sport/winter-olympics/sochi-winter-olympics-british-skater-elise-christie-cancels-twitter-account-after-abuse-20140217-32ue7.html

    Bet these scumbags would not have the courage to say anything to her face. Well unless they had weapons, were drunk, were more than one in number, or at the very least, actually in Korea where such behavior could possibly be excused away as a form of patriotism!

  • Surabol
    3:57 pm on February 21st, 2014 17

    So Tom, according to your logic, since Korea screwed Roy Jones Jr, it’s fair game for the Americans to return the favor many years later, right? That’s why you’re so eager for Korea (a nation infamous for cheating) to take revenge against Russia. And Korea got its share of (ahem) home court advantage in 2002. Ever wonder why they approached that level greatness ever again?

    Sine SK won’t have a medal contender in figure skating in 2018, a conspiracy against Russia likely benefits either Japan or USA. So it’s all good.

  • TheKorean
    5:53 pm on February 21st, 2014 18

    Surabol, Americans did return the favor when Apolo Ohno pushed the Korean speed skater who was later disqualified because of it. :roll: :lol:

  • Tom
    5:59 pm on February 21st, 2014 19

    Not only that, they cheated by deliberately miscounting Yang Tae-Yang’s gymnastic gold medal in 2004, and took the gold for themselves as revenge. What, they just couldn’t stop at Oh-no’s Hollywood action? :lol:

  • GI Joe
    6:19 pm on February 21st, 2014 20

    There is a petition:

    Open Investigation into Judging Decisions of Women’s Figure Skating and Demand Rejudgement at the Sochi Olympics

    https://www.change.org/petitions/international-skating-union-isu-open-investigation-into-judging-decisions-of-women-s-figure-skating-and-demand-rejudgement-at-the-sochi-olympics?utm_source=action_alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=49440&alert_id=MKfxRhzpXf_ANNVHKynMV

  • Leo Thonon
    6:27 pm on February 21st, 2014 21

    I’m not American, nor European, nor Asian, but I was born and raised in Africa. I live in Texas, USA. Therefore I think that I’m be entitled to have an objective opinion.
    Kim Yuna skated above any expectations, in a difficult time. Adelina Sotnikova did a great performance.
    The judges gave their preferences to Adelina, with a majority of
    Russian judges, who should have been excluded from the Adelina’s judgment!!! I strongly, very strongly believe that Kim and Adelina should both have a Gold Medal..That’ll recognize the merits Of Kim and Adelina…and cover the judges asses!!!

    Leopold Thonon

  • Bob
    7:09 pm on February 21st, 2014 22

    #15,

    Your momma’s so fat, her house is bigger than the US.

  • Avatar of Leon LaPorteLeon LaPorte
    8:22 pm on February 21st, 2014 23

    Too bad Tom will not be able to come to Korea in person in 2018 and bask in the Olympic glory of Corea’s domination of all sports. You see, Tom is a traitor to his country because he has shirked his legal and moral responsibility to serve a short time in the armed forces of his beloved Korea. He is now an international fugitive and would be apprehended by the authorities the moment he sat foot in Incheon airport.

    Too bad, Tom. Sorry, old boy. Tsk, tsk.

  • ChinaWinner
    9:57 pm on February 21st, 2014 24

    Home-cooking, Russian judges are shit-s

  • Yuna Kim
    10:15 pm on February 21st, 2014 25

    The Russian and the Ukrainian judges saying congrats, hugging the podium winner.

    http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=yeona&no=472800&page=2

    The outcome was never in doubt.

    ;-)

  • Yuna Kim
    10:18 pm on February 21st, 2014 26

    The Russian and the Ukrainian judges saying congrats, hugging the podium winner.

    http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=yeona&no=472800&page=2

    The outcome was never in doubt.
    ;-)

  • Smokes
    10:26 pm on February 21st, 2014 27

    I’d just like to take this time to point out her should be romainzed as Kim Yeona, where the &^$@ Yuna came from beats me. :x

    윤 = Yun or Yoon
    연 = Yeon

    And Koreans want Gold… can’t even stick to their own standards but want to question the former Soviets who’ve time and time again proven to be the world’s beacon of transparency, honesty, and fairness.

  • The Russian
    10:39 pm on February 21st, 2014 28

    Are you being sarcastic against my country? :x Go to hell, American.

  • Smokes
    10:42 pm on February 21st, 2014 29

    I must break you.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygQvB6OjHOU

  • King Baeksu
    12:55 am on February 22nd, 2014 30

    When asked to comment on the controversial decision, Russian President Vladimir Putin proceeded to remove his winter-fur coat and shirt, revealing rock-hard pecs and abs, and had this to say to reporters: “These silly South Koreans are like little children, they are so naive. Do they really think the Olympics are about ‘fair play’ and ‘sportsmanship’ in the ‘international community’? Do they really think I spent over $50 billion for such politically correct claptrap? I’m the freakin’ President of Russia and these are my games, bitches. 2014 is all about me telling the West to piss off with its endless whingeing about ‘authoritarianism’ in Russia and Russian ‘interference’ in Ukraine. The 2014 Winter Olympics are a cherry that I place on top of the pie I have stolen from the Russian people. And guess what, bitches? The Russian people actually like it, because that’s just the way we Russians like to roll. So go ahead and ask me if I care what you think — I’m straight-up gangsta and don’t even want to know. You silly South Koreans should be happy that Kim Yuna got the silver medal — consider it a thank you present for Viktor Ahn — and if you don’t like it, maybe I’ll spend a few more petrodollars and steal a dozen more of your top athletes. Now run along back to your American Daddy, because it’s party time here in Russian, and I’m afraid that it’s adults only.”

    Before leaving, President Putin had one last comment for the Korean press contingent: “Oh, and by the way. Soju is for pussies — real men drink vodka. Za vas!”

  • Mike
    1:33 am on February 22nd, 2014 31

    I think that Yuna had a big fight with president Putin.

  • Smokes
    2:50 am on February 22nd, 2014 32

    Baeksu, the thing is that very well could be the transcript of an actual interview with Putin. :cool:

    Although I can’t really see him using the word “claptrap”. :| Also he’d make a remark about us needing to get out of there before he has us whipped by Cossacks like he did the members of Pu55yRiot. :shock:

  • Robert
    5:56 am on February 22nd, 2014 33

    As far as Yang Tae-Yang is concerned-

    A major point of contention was the time at which the score protest was filed. Under FIG rules, score protests must be filed immediately, during the actual competition, to be considered. The Korean Olympic Committee claimed that one of the judges on the parallel bars panel, Kim Dong Min, noticed that the Start Value was amiss during the competition, informed Yang’s coaches directly after the meet, and that a protest was lodged around the time of the medal ceremony. The FIG stated that in fact, no protest had been filed until later in the day, when the athletes were leaving the arena.[3]

    Doh! Kind of reminds me of the Burger King murders, Edward Lee and Arthur Patterson. Bumbling Korean fool prosecutors couldn’t submit the paperwork after Patterson had served his sentence, was freed, and before he left Korea (of course he’s going to leave, duh, not like he’s going to stick around cause he likes the place) and then they just gave up on the murder until a movie was made! Only when Koreans started protesting did they decide to pursue the case again- in the nick of time before the statute of limitations.

    Protests may work in Korea, but the rest of the world gives two shits. Oh and where is Patterson now? Still waiting extradition, but Koreans don’t know that because they’ve moved on to the next petty protest- Kim Yuna, Dokdo, East Sea, etc. Don’t know why they’d want Patterson in their country, paying tax dollars to lock him up- for “justice”? So they can sentence him to life, reduce it to 20 years, and let him go after 10? Korean justice system at it’s best.

  • Denise
    7:41 am on February 22nd, 2014 34

    http://sports.news.nate.com/view/20140222n07256?mid=s9902

    Main Judge hugging the player??? huh

  • Joan Burns
    10:05 am on February 22nd, 2014 35

    just for your info, the scores are posted on the WebSite of the IceNetwork..but I do agree..Kim should have received the Gold..however when one sees events that are on TV,one does not get the complete engery or speed of the skaters..but still too many former Soviet judges..no american judges only in the short program..where would a NewZealand or Australian or British judge be???
    Kim’s component marks should have been much higher..technical marks higher for Sotnikova, but not that much higher than Kims’
    The ISU should have 2 medals given, short and long(or Free program)..and not combine marks of short and long..why not??it give skaters a chance to really win 2 medals, and if a skater can win both the short and long..that would be great 2 medals gold!!!!! all other venues give the opportunity to their competitors why not figure skating??!

  • Ladies Figure Skating Fan
    9:29 pm on February 22nd, 2014 36

    I’m from Indonesia Russia’s about the result. I spent 2 nights to watch both short program & long program of olympic ladies figure skating and I could clearly see immediately blatant cheating. Russia’s ladies don’t deserve the score they were getting. Blatant favoritism. Yuna Kim’s, Mao Asada, and Carolina Kostner long program eserves higher score than Adelina & Yulia. Their next international competition outside Russia with no Russian judges will prove that I’m right. Yuna Kim’s short program should receive world record breaking or near world record breaking score. Carolina Kostner’s short program score should be higher than Adelina’s. Polina Edmunds & Ashley Wagner should score higher than Yulia. Russia’s audience also pissed me off

  • Tony
    9:31 pm on February 22nd, 2014 37

    free skate score sheet for anyone interested. The amount of GOE points awarded to Kim Yuna is hurting my eyes… those judges are blind, or CORRUPT. Also Adelina Sotnikova should not have received that high of a program component score…. http://www.isuresults.com/results/owg2014/owg14_Ladies_FS_Scores.pdf

  • Sally
    10:43 pm on February 22nd, 2014 38

    :shock: i was quite shocked im not korean though. rigged result…. I heard that 2or 3 judges were related w Russian Skating something and even worse is that one of the judges was ex-coach of SOTNIKOVA !!!!!

  • Matt
    12:04 am on February 23rd, 2014 39

    @tbonetylr

    There’s a significant flaw to your analogy:
    1. You’re comparing figure skating with boxing…there’s a big difference in how the scores are tabulated. For instance, figure skating awards artistic and technical performances whereas boxing awards points for beating the opponent without the artistic component.
    2. Your video is outdated and probably does not reflect how boxing is judged in recent times. Sochi Olympics is a very recent event and there is evidence of unfair judging as we speak.
    3. You’re comparing winter olympics and summer olympics with alleged victims from different nationalities…the venue is completely different. Kim (alleged victim) is South Korean and Roy Jones (alleged victim) is American. Your point would make more sense if Roy Jones was Russian and participated in winter olympics.

    Your probably intended to say that South Koreans are corrupt as Russians when it comes to judging. However, your point is weak because it is very decontextualized and does not relate to what is happening at Sochi. Your point is more likely to stir confusion, because South Koreans are not angry against Americans in a boxing or a summer sports match. Your video is marred with irrelevancy.

  • tbonetylr
    4:26 am on February 23rd, 2014 40

    @39,
    “1. You’re comparing figure skating with boxing…there’s a big difference in how the scores are tabulated.”

    I don’t care how the scores of Roy Jones Jr. got tabulated. He got “robbed,” don’t you get it :shock:

    “2. Your video is outdated and probably does not reflect how boxing is judged in recent times. Sochi Olympics is a very recent event and there is evidence of unfair judging as we speak.”

    How Roy Jones Jr. got robbed doesn’t matter, my point was that the “robbing” is more obvious. It’s clear that he should’ve been declared the winner.

    I saw Sotnikova and Yuna both skate. Just where is your “evidence”, I don’t trust Chosun Ilbo’s “evidence”. What does “recent” have to do with being robbed in the Olympics? Again I was just pointing out the obvious “robbed” from GI Korea’s posted title. Much time has passed and an investigation/conclusion has come out on the Roy Jones Jr. fight. Again, where is the Sotnikova/Kim “robbed” evidence? Chosun Ilbo “evidence” won’t suffice.

    Being “robbed” is being robbed, I wasn’t analyzing how, only how obvious it was. :roll:

    “3. You’re comparing winter olympics and summer olympics with alleged victims from different nationalities…the venue is completely different.”

    They are/were both Olympic athletes, I don’t care about their nationalities or the venue. :???: Sotnikova Sotnikova Sotnikova :!: :!: :!:

  • ChickenHead
    5:05 am on February 23rd, 2014 41

    Panem et circenses, you poor, dumb, ignorant, civically-bankrupt motherfunkers.

    So many of you deserve what is coming.

  • Glans
    6:35 am on February 23rd, 2014 42

    Let there be a mens sana in corpore sano, Head.

  • Tom
    7:26 am on February 23rd, 2014 43

    Tbone, Roy Jones Jr. got “robbed” because a Korean fighter in 1984 was robbed by the US, just as how Roy Jones was robbed. Even the LA Times wrote in 1984 that the US grabs for boxing by cheating were a disgrace. The 1988 was a payback.

  • ChickenHead
    8:41 am on February 23rd, 2014 44

    Glans, your comment was very juvenal.

  • Del
    9:08 am on February 23rd, 2014 45

    Russians need to explain one thing. How did Mao Asada get scored lower than Sot. in the long program? It really defeats your argument about her winning because of technical merit. The judging was crooked. That is verified with this comparison.

  • Del
    9:14 am on February 23rd, 2014 46

    The great Olympic basketball scandal of 1972 is symbolic of Soviet Bloc corruption. Russians still live in all the former Soviet republics. All of those states still speak Russian. Their leaders still ally with Russia.

  • Liz
    9:40 am on February 23rd, 2014 47

    Juvenal. Hee hee hee.
    :smile:

  • Justkidding
    2:04 pm on February 23rd, 2014 48

    The man/woman who published this is so full of shit it pisses me off.
    1. This is the protocol for short program, yet you prefered not to show this.
    2. The judges you have mentioned (Balkov and Shekhovtseva) were present only during Free program.

    Stop pouring shit in people’s ears. Here is link for full reports: http://gtcdn.sochi2014.com/contentpage/pkbKOw/FS-o%20Results-Book_Sochi-V1a.pdf

    If you scroll down you will see that in free program there are no so outstanding judges. There is whole bunch of 10s for Kim and none for Sotnikova, and yet it was not enough for Kim to win, because her base was 57.49 and Sotnikova’s base was 61.43.

    So the only reason why she lost is that they chose more careful program in terms of difficulty.

  • Lol
    3:31 pm on February 23rd, 2014 49

    The stupidest fake ever.
    These points are from the short program where sotnikova actually lost. Judges were replaced after this.

  • Bones
    5:13 pm on February 23rd, 2014 50

    @tbonetylr Jones was robbed and the Koreans obviously did care since they punished the officials involved and the Korean boxer himself reached out to Jones after the fight.

    You don’t even know what happened. Lofos never do.

    The Koreans rigged 1988 as a direct reaction to the US rigging the LA Olympics in 1984. In the absence of the Soviets and Cubans, we decided to try a Kansas Land Grab for boxing hardware the likes had never been seen. All that stood in our way were a bunch of crappy little countries. In the end we won 9 gold medals (a record haul) but substantially damaged boxing when the heavyweight bout between Henry Tillman versus Italian Angelo Musone seemed rigged. In the light flyweight people were scratching their heads over a fight that Redzep Redzepovski of Yugoslavia seemed to have won over Steve McCrory. The Koreans of course were hopping mad about their boxer losing a light welterweight bout even the LA Times called an embarrassment. In total 37 of 38 bouts that WENT TO THE JUDGES went to American boxers.

    You’re doing the Koreaboo thing of race baiting and bitching about Koreans without even caring if it has to do with anything. But actually there’s a point here.

    PPL were pissed about 84 but most thought having BOTH superpowers there with the USSR to balance the US and vice versa would obviate this from happening again. No one else was America. No one else had our political or media clout. But after 88, if even the KOREANS could pull this crap. And in Jones’ case even more crudely than what the Americans dared, it was clear that it could be an ongoing thing

    THAT is what spurred boxing to either reform itself or be removed.

    The point here isn’t race baiting, or the lofo JUCO aspirations about talking shit about another culture. It’s that we have the exact same shit here. Figure skating is the most important event in the Olympics. If the reigning world and olympic champion can be robbed by a person who skated a junior skating short program, what protection is there for anyone else? It took the boxing 2 Olympics to reform itself. How many Olympics is it going to take skating? 2? 3? Never? IOC should do the right thing.

  • Bones
    5:18 pm on February 23rd, 2014 51

    @Tom wow.

    dude I am impressed another boxing fan exists. We rigged boxing in 84 as a result of Cold War politics, and the Koreans didn’t know their place and tried some payback and got caught.

    I’ve read this trope probably a dozen times over the years from Koreaboos and never had 1 other person old enough to actually remember what happened.

    The sad thing is that boxing actually never recovered. Boxing in the 80s was HUGE. So many greats. But 84 started a trend where people lost faith in the legitimacy of the sport and it never recovered.

    Figure skating could go the same way. Usually the Koreaboo posting angry adds nothing but the Roy Jones fight and aftermath is an exact right cautionary tale about what can happen to skating

  • tbonetylr
    6:26 pm on February 23rd, 2014 52

    @50,
    “The Koreans of course were hopping mad about their boxer”

    Who is this Korean boxer?

    “In the light flyweight people were scratching their heads over a fight that Redzep Redzepovski of Yugoslavia seemed to have won over Steve McCrory.”

    It didn’t seem like it to me.

    1984 Olympic Flyweight Boxing final – Steve McCrory
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yZf3OFnJdg
    I wasn’t “scratching my head.”

  • Teresa
    6:37 pm on February 23rd, 2014 53

    @JustKidding #48, forget your long vs short justification. Ms. Kim’s short program was one of the best programs ever skated. Her lead should have been so big that there would be no way the Russian skater could have caught her barring some major mistakes, which Kim does not make.

    I’m in the USA and I don’t know a single person who watched who thought Kim shouldn’t have won.

  • T.
    8:29 pm on February 23rd, 2014 54

    http://www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/international-skating-union-isu-open-transparent-scores-and-remove-anonymity-from-the-judging-decisions-of-women-s-figure-skating-at-the-sochi-olympics
    Please sign here if you dont agree with Sotnikova’s championship

  • Smokes
    9:09 pm on February 23rd, 2014 55

    Exclusive! Webcam footage of Tom watching Kim during Sochi 2014.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7RfwPzNckU

  • Ruseu
    9:16 pm on February 23rd, 2014 56

    Russian skater had a more difficult program. One too difficult even for herself. She fell, her jumps were shaky but passable, and her movements are no where near as fluid as Yuna’s. Anyone can flap their arms around but it takes alot of skill and awareness to control each muscle from shoulder to fingertip. Although it looks like one movement, it’s can be a combination of five or six small movements. Maybe that’s why Adelina needed props in her gala?https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhIS3EjCAAACGDI.jpg

  • King Baeksu
    10:13 pm on February 23rd, 2014 57

    @55, the Korean commenters on that video are going gaga for it. They seem unwilling to ask themselves whether it might be an elaborate piss-take.

  • King Baeksu
    10:22 pm on February 23rd, 2014 58

    “이새끼 김연아 팬이 아니라 김연아 인기를 이용해 자기 동영상 알려볼까 하는것임 지난 뱅쿠버때도 똑같았음….”

    Gotta love Korean Nutizens. They seem to be a variation on the virgin-whore dynamic — they either love foreigners or hate them, not much room for anything in between. The above commenter basically accuses our bearded hipster friend of being a “bitch” who is only using Kim Yuna for her popularity. Like I said, a rather humorless lot on the whole.

  • King Baeksu
    10:29 pm on February 23rd, 2014 59

    “His comedy shorts have been featured on Funny or Die, College Humor, Gawker, and Huffington Post. In 2010, a video of him yelling in his underwear made him a minor celebrity in South Korea, where he appeared on the radio, the front page of Yahoo, and on network television.”

    Source: http://losangeles.ucbtheatre.com/talent/view/10555

    An overweight white comedian with a beard and curly hair. Is there a factory or something?

  • Matt
    10:46 pm on February 23rd, 2014 60

    @tbonetylr – #40.

    Your carelessness “robs” you from the truth of what happened at Sochi.

    You ask for more evidence, but even my three year old nephew knows that a person who skates without a fall (i.e. Kim) deserves more points than a person who skates with a blatantly obvious slip after a jump (i.e. Sotnikova).

    If you care to think, many people refer to Sotnikova’s technically superior program in comparison to that of Kim’s. They argue that this technical difference explains the gap in points. I disagree. Sotnikova’s execution was merely comparable on that day. There were other technically superior skaters than Sotnikova, but their points were within a reasonable range from other skaters. However, the judges rewarded Sotnikova so much so that she almost broke the world record. In Russia, a blemished performance of a Russian skater almost amounts to a world record! Ahahahahahaha!! And you wanted evidence? How would you feel if a B-student was given the top student award and the A-student was given a notable mention award? This isn’t communism. It’s about competition and individual merit. Don’t fool yourself. There was corruption at Sochi.

  • King Baeksu
    10:52 pm on February 23rd, 2014 61

    The South Koreans might want to diversify a bit more in 2018:

    http://www.sochi2014.com/en/medals

    No wonder they were so upset about Kim Yuna. Apart from her, all their other medals were in either short track or speed skating:

    http://www.sochi2014.com/en/team-korea

    Has no one in South Korea ever experienced the combined thrill of bong-puffing and snowboarding?

    I also reckon Korean ajummas could sweep the field in the luge events — just tell ‘em there’s a Lotte sale at the end of the track, and they’ll be down in a flash!

  • Smokes
    10:53 pm on February 23rd, 2014 62

    Baeksu it’s no secret Koreans aren’t familiar with sarcasm; even the poster-children of the adorable goofy waegukins know this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSjXCaH_61c

  • King Baeksu
    11:00 pm on February 23rd, 2014 63

    Hey Matt, it’s OK, Kim Yuna still doesn’t know or care who you are — although her chaebol sponsors would like you to know that they still want all your money, thank you very much.

  • King Baeksu
    11:05 pm on February 23rd, 2014 64

    Canucks doing Ebonics? Thanks, but I’ll pass.

    The first three minutes was enough to convince me that they have no idea what they’re talking about.

  • Matt
    11:06 pm on February 23rd, 2014 65

    @King Baeksu – #63.

    My pleasure! Please let Yuna and her chaebol sponsors know that I charge 15% interest and a personal signature from Yuna.

    Kind regards,
    Matt

  • King Baeksu
    11:09 pm on February 23rd, 2014 66

    What did I tell you, Smokes?

  • Smokes
    11:20 pm on February 23rd, 2014 67

    Oh I know full well how they don’t get it. I lean heavy on sarcasm so I learned a looonng time ago my humor has no power in Korea.

    Other side of the coin though; I can’t stand slapstick and pratfall which it would seem is what 99.999% + 0.001% of Korean comedy is based on. If I were a retahd from the 13th century I’d get it because I’l lack the ability to read or write or bathe regularly but come on people it’s the 21st century, we’re supposed to have jetpacks and flying cars and 5hit.

  • King Baeksu
    11:34 pm on February 23rd, 2014 68

    Koreans in both the North and South can have a wicked sense of humor, but it tends to go MIA when “national honor” is at stake — and foreigners but their head in where it “doesn’t belong.” As the saying goes, The minjok ain’t no joke.

    Q: “How many Korean nationalists does it take to screw in a light bulb?”

    A1: “That’s not funny!”

    A2: “We demand a sincere apology NOW!”

    A3: “We have already formed a national committee comprised of 1,800 NGOs, and will launch our protest tonight!”

    A4-50 million: Etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc. :roll:

  • VALERIA
    12:53 am on February 24th, 2014 69

    Dear All. The funnies thing is that Chosun Ilbo published the results of the SHORT PROGRAM (The ones that Yuna won!) Actually, the short program was judged by 9 international judges and there were no russians or ukranians on the list that night. Though there was a american and a korean judge on the list (short program). Check it yourself on the official Olympics site.

  • Avatar of GI KoreaGI Korea
    3:07 am on February 24th, 2014 70

    The below link has the best breakdown of the scoring system I have seen and makes it very clear that Sotnikova’s score were inflated:

    http://www.thewire.com/culture/2014/02/why-people-think-adelina-sotnikovas-figure-skating-gold-medal-was-rigged/358344/

    After reading through the article I think an argument can be made that Kostner’s scores were deflated even more then Kim’s.

  • King Baeksu
    3:11 am on February 24th, 2014 71

    I think this is actually a “win-win” for South Korea. Once again, the virtuous South Korean people have been trampled on and victimized by dastardly foreigners. In other words, in 2010 Kim Yuna was able to prove that she was “the best,” and in 2014 she is able to prove that no matter what foreigners think, Koreans are “the best” themselves. Perfect, isn’t it?

  • King Baeksu
    3:17 am on February 24th, 2014 72

    “Valeria.” Sorry, I needed to say it once myself, just because it’s such a nice name. :oops:

  • Actual Figure Skater of 10 years
    2:23 pm on February 24th, 2014 73

    ?????? Y’all a bunch of jealous chicken nuggets. Think before you comment. Just being a “fan” doesn’t guarantee that you understand how figure skating works. The judging system is complex and even I get confused about it sometimes. GOE points don’t have to be awarded. A score of 0 isn’t bad…it just means your jump was perfect…not above average. As for the components…Sotnikova’s choreography was way way way harder than Yuna’s. Also, all of Sotnikova’s spins were level 4…and it was obvious they were much faster and harder. Yuna had one Level 3. Sotnikova did 7 jumps, 5 of them were combinations. Kim did 6, 3 of them combos.
    Thank you

  • BIJ
    3:38 pm on February 24th, 2014 74

    So that does it then. The Russian girl won fair and square. Stop hating Koreans. Ono still loves skating and winning against you.

  • King Baeksu
    6:04 pm on February 24th, 2014 75

    What I’ve noticed about Kim Yuna’s defenders is that they cherry pick their sources and evidence, leaving out any praise of Sotnikova’s many expert defenders, whereas Sotnikova’s supporters, in general, try to present both sides of the debate when arguing in her favor. What happened to those who are so outraged by “bias” and “favoritism” among the judges? If your case is so strong, why indulge in so much sneaky spin yourselves?

    This article makes a strong case that Kim’s performance was, in the end, “excellent, but not innovative”:

    http://thediplomat.com/2014/02/yuna-kims-silver-medal-politics-or-poor-sportsmanship/

    Indeed, if you watched Kim’s two great performances from 2010 in Vancouver just before Sochi, her two routines this year would indeed seem rather anticlimactic, simply more of the same instead of anything excitingly new or different. What was she doing for the last four years? Why did she ditch her old Canadian coach? However great she may be, is a true Olympian worthy of the gold if they simply expect to coast to victory?

  • Lea
    4:23 pm on February 25th, 2014 76

    Yang Tae Young was not cheated by the Americans. Please go check who judged that competition. Yang Tae Young was cheated but it wasn’t bu the US judges.

  • Lea
    4:31 pm on February 25th, 2014 77

    Russian fans have never tried to have an unbiased opinion on any sport. You are seeing things not there.

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  • randomIDpasser
    6:44 pm on February 25th, 2014 79

    Is Wikipedia lying to me when it says according to this judging system the highest & lowest score of the 9 are automatically discarded?? 1 score can’t possibly skew the 6 left.. & in the GOE scores, a lot of them are close (I see a lot of 3s in Adelina’s score, not only just from 1 or 2 judges, while Yuna got mostly 2s)

    I’m not an expert in technical, & everyone is biased to their own opinion when watching figure skating. To me, who have never watched Adelina nor Yuna compete before (thus not biased towards either of them), Adelina deserved the gold, & as far as emotion goes, the award goes to Mao Asada’s performance to me.. Yuna was amazing, but it was Adelina, Yulia, & Mao’s FPs that gave me goosebumps (albeit for slightly different reasons)..

  • Corey
    11:23 pm on February 27th, 2014 80

    That is great evidence you have shown with those score sheets. If you calculate Yuna Kims and Adelina Sotnikovas component score without those two you circled, Yuna would have a much higher score. Very interesting stuff.

    I also think Carolina Kostner and Mao Asada were underscored. I would love to see if those same judges underscored them as well! It makes sense since Yuna, Carolina, and Mao were the top contenders going into the games. I have read that many people feel that Yuna should’ve gotten gold, Carolina – silver, Mao – Bronze, and that Adelina Sotnikova should not have even medaled.
    I have to say I agree.

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    10:13 pm on February 28th, 2014 81

    […] e at the link, as well as reading the complete Yahoo Sports article at this link which makes the case that the corruption went much further than the two judges that have been widely criticized for inflating Sotnikova’s scores. […]

  • rg love
    5:20 pm on March 10th, 2014 82

    And what you would expect from the Russians? They always have been STOLEN. THEY HAVE STOLEN FROM THE ruling party, THEY HAVE STOLEN IN competitions. Bribe AND REPLACED judges. THIS IS RUSSIA.

  • Yohana S.
    12:03 am on March 21st, 2014 83

    So, if a skater just jumps around with flapping arms and shaky landings (imperfect skills) , as long as he/she jumps a lot, it will earn the highest score because it’s deemed difficult?
    That’s new.. I admit I was not a fan of ice sports, but I saw Yuna on youtube and I am in love with her program… How did she get 10s from 4-5 judges but failed to impress the other half (who scored russian chick higher) ….

 

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