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Is Snowden Really A Russian Spy?

More and more I read about Snowden the more I am convinced he was working with either the Chinese or the Russians and his so called privacy concerns is just a front to cover up for his espionage activities:

While important details about Edward Snowden’s activities in Hong Kong remain shrouded in secrecy, the conventional portrait of his stay there and in Russia as one of improvisation and serendipity is at odds with the precision of his well-planned thefts.
Until March 15, 2013, Mr. Snowden worked at the NSA base in Honolulu for Dell, the outside contractor which supplied technicians to work on the NSA’s backup system. From this vantage point, he had access to the NSA Net, from which he pilfered most of the documents he later gave to journalists including the ones about NSA domestic operations that have preoccupied the world’s media.

But he quit Dell and moved to Booz Allen Hamilton, the outside contractor that ran the computer systems in the NSA’s Threat Operations Center. Here he could get access to the crown jewels, the lists of computers in four adversary nations—Russia, China, North Korea and Iran—that the agency had penetrated. He later told the South China Morning Post that his whole reason for making the job switch was to get “access to lists of machines all over the world the NSA hacked.”

He carried out that theft, which included stealing passwords that gave him access to secret files, with great precision. There is no reason to assume that his getaway was any less deliberately planned. [Wall Street Journal via Faustasblog]

You can read more at the link but there is even suspicions that someone else was helping him at BAH.

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  • Stephen
    6:08 am on July 10th, 2014 1

    There’s no doubt that he’s working for the Rus now. The only question is whether he’s doing it for ideological or pecuniary reasons. The only way he’ll end up in a US court is if Hillary is elected POTUS.

  • Smokes
    7:46 am on July 10th, 2014 2

    “The only way he’ll end up in a US court is if Hillary is elected POTUS.”

    How do you figure that?

  • ChickenHead
    10:00 am on July 10th, 2014 3

    “pecuniary”?

    This is a blog for military members, civilian workers, and those interested in the military and not a Jane Austen study group.

    Though I daresay it would trouble me dearly if you found my concerns ever so vexing.

  • Liz
    11:37 am on July 10th, 2014 4

    CH is a fine fellow. Always good for a lark! :P

    I don’t think Snowden is in Russia because he a champion of privacy rights.
    Hope they pay him in Bitcoins.

    http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2014/06/the-nsa-now-owns-bitcoin.html

  • ChickenHead
    11:54 am on July 10th, 2014 5

    They have attacked Snowden in various ways–with barefaced questions, ingenious suppositions, and distant surmises; but he has eluded the skill of them all, and they have been at last obliged to accept the second-hand reports of the journalist, Mr. Greenwald.

  • JoeC
    3:22 pm on July 10th, 2014 6

    If he was spying for the Russians or Chinese you have to ask what possible benefit could they gain from having an asset with such high level access only to have him acquire then publicly reveal ALL of the classified information he got?

    Even if his super secret agenda within an agenda was to identify all of the Chinese and Russian servers the NSA had penetrated, why would he then publicly reveal that?

    When we also know … that they know … what we know, it loses almost any of its operational advantage to them.

  • Stephen
    10:28 pm on July 10th, 2014 7

    There was never a tactical advantage as the NSA’s computer techniques have never been revealed. The strategic advantage for China and Russia is domestic not international. Any resistance to China’s 100 000 strong internet surveillance army is met by tu quoque claims about the USA.

    Snowden skipped off to Russia because the Chinese don’t need him, even though Snowden thought the Chinese should be grateful.

    Putin then decided to harbor Snowden as it’s another diversion from Russia’s domestic troubles.

  • Liz
    6:19 am on July 11th, 2014 8

    “what possible benefit could they gain from having an asset with such high level access only to have him acquire then publicly reveal ALL of the classified information he got?”

    Are you thinking of Bradass87?

  • Liz
    8:46 am on July 11th, 2014 9

    Russia has banned certain obscenities:
    http://news.yahoo.com/russians-swear-storm-kremlin-bans-obscenities-072418720.html

    I wonder what Snowden will do when faced with such an infringement of basic free speech liberties?

  • Theodore
    6:37 pm on July 11th, 2014 10

    When the heat was on Snowden went “home”- to Russia.

  • Leon LaPorte
    8:10 pm on July 11th, 2014 11

    10. Can’t be his home. Russians generally despise traitors.

    9. It hasn’t (and shouldn’t have) escaped many folks notice that the “free speech rights crusader” attempted to flee to first China and settled in Putin’s Russia.

  • ChickenHead
    9:13 pm on July 11th, 2014 12

    Any port in a storm.

    It does seem odd that Snowden plotted out how to steal the info but didn’t have a clear escape plan… or maybe he did and it is just intended to look like he didn’t.

    After stealing and releasing the information, there is no real expectation for him to stick around and take the heat… but one would expect a better plan to avoid it.

    Once again, had Snowden exclusively released information about the NSA’s illegal and unconstitutional actions against Americans, he would have been a hero. By releasing information about NSA actions that were legal, constitutional, and in America’s interests, he becane a traitor.

    Too bad Tbone can’t see the difference.

  • Liz
    3:54 am on July 12th, 2014 13

    I’m quite certain he thought he’d be embraced by any of our numerous enemies straight away.

    He probably figured he’d be the next Assange.

  • Leon LaPorte
    8:22 pm on July 12th, 2014 14

    13. For such “smart guys” neither seems to have really considered his brilliant plan through to the logical conclusion. Assange is stuck in the Argentine embassy in London – and dare not venture out, and dumbass is in Russia relying on the kindness, whim, and tender mercy of former KGB Colonel, Vladimir Putin. Way to go guys! If for nothing else, I can’t take either seriously.

  • ChickenHead
    11:54 pm on July 12th, 2014 15

    Assange wound up in the Ecuadorian embassy as a necessary reaction to a sudden and unforseen situation. It was likely a smart move in a situation with few options.

    Snowden had a long time to plot his after-action plan… and either didn’t plan it fully or arrange it correctly… or he was managed by professionals who wish it to appear that way.

    Assange, like Snowden, is under no obligation to conceal information that exposes America’s illegal and unconstitutional actions… but, as Assange is not an American citizen, he is also under no obligation to conceal legal covert actions that promote America’s interests.

    America’s growing desire to enforce its laws, and even political desires, outside of its borders on both American and non-American citizens, should be a concern for everyone… especially when it is usually for political purposes rather than true justice.

  • Liz
    4:50 am on July 13th, 2014 16

    CH, how’s about a happy story? I need a happy story.

  • setnaffa
    7:02 am on July 13th, 2014 17

    What troubles me is CH’s ready use, and and apparently deep knowledge, of Jane Austen… :shock:

  • Liz
    7:20 am on July 13th, 2014 18

    I hadn’t noticed. But I love Jane Austen!

    She really knew how to work a happy story.

  • ChickenHead
    9:11 am on July 13th, 2014 19

    What troubles ME is Setnaffa being able to recognize my Jane Austen quote even with the names replaced.

    OK, Liz, word of the day is happy.

    All men from LA to Boston
    had better not read Jane Austen.
    If they quote to the room,
    all will assume
    if they had any balls, they have lost ‘em.

  • Liz
    9:38 am on July 13th, 2014 20

    Hurray!
    That was awesome.
    I feel so much better. :-)
    What about Austen Powers?
    Because I also like to live dangerously. :P

  • setnaffa
    1:31 pm on July 13th, 2014 21

    Having been, at one point married to a librarian, I eas also exposed to what her friends generously called “theatre.”

    “Our scars make us know that our past was for real”

 

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